By - gildflint
I know the peak complexity of the front wings was around 2017 or something before they simplified everything a year later and it shows how the front wings have evolved over 10 years
2007, loved the bridge on the Macca
> bridge on the Macca
What is bridge of Macca? What Ferrari had?
Check out the McLaren MP4/22
Looks quite similar to the Ferrari F2007
Lol, because it was a copy of the Ferrari...
I wish I was kidding: [Stepney Gate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Formula_One_espionage_controversy)
Please stop spreading this narrative. The FIA investigated McLaren throughly in both 2007 and 2008 to make sure no Ferrari IP had been incorporated into their cars, and they found no evidence that it had.
Yeah they didn't even look anything like each other (unlike for instance, when you compare the 2004 Sauber to the 2003 Ferrari, or the 1995 Ligier and Benetton, Pink Mercedes, etc.)
It didn't add up to me then, nor does it now, that McLaren would be excluded from the championship solely because they were in possession of Ferrari documents.
Renault were caught with classified McLaren documents that very same year and got no punishment whatsoever, while Mosley wanted to ban McLaren from F1 for 2 years. Please tell me in what world does that make logical sense. The penalty only makes sense when you put into context how big of a hate boner Mosley had for Dennis and McLaren.
Looks like we agree that something doesn't add up.
My god the f2007 was so sexy
A McDonald's in Australia near a bridge?
Maccas is McDonald's in Aus/NZ.
yeah which is why I was asking if that's what he meant
Yaa 2018 would’ve been peak front wing complexity they kinda muffed it up not including that in here they make the 2022 front wings look like amateurs lol
2018. Those wings were insane.
Should have included 2017 or 2018 for "good measure".
Those complicated front wings with those abominations of bargeboards haunt me till this day
I loved seeing all the small, intricate details in the barge boards and front wings but to each their own!
i too loved the almost fractal bargeboards
You mean the sticky uppy bits.
I cannot not hear that expression in Martin Brundle's voice.
Always wondering what the 250mm exclusion zone was meant to achieve given the y250 ended up being a huge contributor to dirty air.
The middle part of the wing was most heavily impacted when following another car, which is why they chose to make it a neutral area
Pre 2009, it was thought cars couldn’t follow closely because the wide and low rear wing took the air away right where the center front wing was located.
2009 rules gave us tall and skinny rear wings that should have less of an effect on front wings that made its downforce closer to the edge of the car anyways.
Unfortunately, out-washing became the best way to make cars faster with these new front wings and wasn’t really considered or thought of when the rules were made. This was exacerbated with the 2017 rules. 2022 was a second attempt at trying to make cars follow closer to each other.
Outwash front wings were the real innovation brought by the Brawn BGP001.
i think it was a safety reason
2014 is what you stick inside your mouth.
2012 is a dark void where dreams die.
Step nose f1
It is just like Gillette shaving cartridges - more blades every year.
2018 gave us insanities like [this R.S.18](https://i.redd.it/js00f529uvj91.png)
A *lot* happened between 2012 and 2022. [Here's your annual reminder of the "twin tusk" 2014 Lotus.](https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/static/img/amp/5000000/5040000/5047000/5047600/5047651/s6_1001929/1001929.webp) [The 2014 Caterham had the same energy.](https://www.f1technical.net/gallery/2014/jerez-28/jm1428ja429)
To add to the disturbing looks of this car, see that the "Tusks" are not symmetrical since one is longer than the other
That was to comply with regulations IIRC.
About safety i think
The front wing could only have one endpoint. Having two would confuse the crash test
Fair, that's hard to tell from the pic.
>The 2014 Caterham had the same energy.
all that intricacy, and now cars with much much much simpler front wings produce way more downforce, engineers are just not normal.
Imagine you are CNN and then you see your logo in there
I have a model of that. Every time my cat so much as looks at it I'm scared she's broken an element
To be fair, the original kinda looks like a cat has had a big go at it.
Once the wings had to be simplified, the craziness went to bargeboards. Now that those are gone, I feel like the edge of the floor is the new frontier for insane aero
And the Mclaren was pretty bonkers too.
How did they even come up with such a complicated wing
The regulations are pretty clear where things are allowed and where not, so when you want some aero pieces and the only way legally you can get there is over the side, you build like that.
And all the complexity happens through iteration. this works better than this, so let's go this way and add a little more -> repeat until you have such weird wings.
Easiest marketing gig on the planet.
Sales are going down, what are we going to do?!
Add one more blade!
and a gimmick at that. I use old school Merkur safety razor with Feather blade and it shaves as good as those ridiculous cartridges and costs way less.
I spend $8 on blades 4 years ago for 100 blades, I still think I have at least 80 left.
yep. I am using one blade per shave and still lots cheaper and more pleasant with proper cream and brush and things :)
Have a safety razor and a few straight razor's when I get lazy with maintenance I use the safety razor they are pretty damned good considering the cheap cost of the blades. Been slowly converting people over to them.
I use straight razor for shave. Closest shaves ever
totally believe that. Maybe one day I will look into that and the upkeep I need to do.
America employs the same idea when it comes to traffic management.
Add one more lane!
But the freeway never truly got wider.....
lmao. relevant YTMND from 2006. https://cobalt.ytmnd.com
It's certainly not The Best A Man Can Get though...
yep, those times are long gone.
The 2006-2008 designs/placement will forever be my favorite in terms of sheer looks.
2007 BMW and 2007/08 Ferraris were perfect
Just looked it up, that’s beautiful. But isn’t that a Williams technically?
Yea Williams bmw it was called the walrus
Montoya drove the wheels off the car it was crazy fast
The 2007-2008 ~~Ferrari~~McLaren would like to have a word with you
Also a very beautiful car
I loved the 06 Williams more personally
Late 1990's and early 2000's wings looked so simplistic yet elegant.
I will always remember the look my grampa gave me when I told him 2009 front wings were wider than the wheels. Shame we will never go back to the smaller cars with limited aerodynamics.
Who knows. In 2008 they might not have expected to see the ridiculously complicated aero again but then it came back for 2017.
Why is limited aerodynamics a good thing?
Well I guess that to each his own, but with cars this big and aero dependent dirty air is more punishing than when cars were smaller and more simplistic, even in 2008 when cars had a lot of aero bits.
Racing was closer and cars were more difficult to handle, specially after they removed traction control.
The size also makes cars too big for most tracks, and that is also related to aerodynamics as bigger cars generate more downforce and grip, also easier to handle.
Also to be said that racing back in that time wasn't much different in terms of overtaking, as that has always been difficult with F1 cars, but it looked more exciting.
The dirty air was still pretty much in full effect too as it was part of the reason for the aero chane in 09. Drivers were already complaining of dirty air back in the late 80's
Because it forces teams to find more creative solutions & also reduces the amount of dirty air usually.
Jesus 2012 was so ugly.
We shall never speak of the dark ages
I don't know what you guys think, but the f75 is imo one of best looking Ferraris of all time. Shame it fell flat
If only it had a sponsor on the rear wing... iirc they had Ferrari text there for one race and it looked so much better. The all black just feels too much like a placeholder to me.
I wouldn't say it "fell flat". Till the flexi TD it was regularly on pace or in some races, better than RB. If Ferrari and Charles hadn't fucked it when they had the upper hand, RB would've had to mount quite a comeback.
I was in a sudden hurry and had to finish my comment. No it didn't fall flat but it wasn't what everyone thought after the first rounds. That combined with the strong RBs and the Ferrari fuck ups it just was too much
I like it from every angle but head on
The nose just looks so long and terrible imo
2007-8 front wings were the sexiest ones.
Gaping Maw 2012.
I loved the surfboard noses
Ok now do 1997, 2007, 2017
Could have included [the 1992 nose](https://i.imgur.com/PkYxmR9.jpg) as well, showing how we went basically full circle in 30 years.
Was about to say, this year's cars with the nose look more like modern versions of early 90s cars.
And i welcome that
2012 made me throw up
My lord those early 2010s cars were hideous
Why was the nose so high off the ground on those cars?
An attempt to get as much air under the car as possible.
Iiintersting. Why did it switch back to a lower nose?
IIRC it was for safety, as nosecones started to get too high for the side crash structures to do their job properly.
So are the lower nose cones today because of regulations or for speed? Or a mix of both? Its curious to think that it might help make a car faster to raise the nose so far off the ground.
The cars used to have lower noses until around the start of the 90s, although Newey had kind of raised the nose very slightly (still with front wing directly bolted to it though) with his 1988 March. Then in 1990 Tyrrell raised the nose even further with the FW attached on either side via diagonal struts, before the 1991 Benetton effectively settled on the basic format seen in 2002/2012, with two vertical struts connecting to a full-width wing below the nose, by mid 1996 every team had this format of nose/FW as the best solution. These cars returning to the late 80s/early 90s format is basically prescribed by the 2022 regulations.
I think the low slung noses of previous years were too dangerous ?
2012 was a legendary season, and yet had some of the ugliest cars in the last 20 years
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! Why did you skip the 2018 liberty extravaganza?
I can "accept" 2002, but 2012 were an abomination.
2022 were just stunning!
Can someone explain to me why the nose of cars was so high off the ground in 2012? Other cars in that era that the same thing, the nose high off the ground and then long extenders down to the front wing. Seeing the change in a decade where the nose is now low again is striking.
I think you missed a few steps.
2002 was a good year in f1 and overall
Errr no, unless you only talk about appearences. Schumacher dominated the hell out of that season
Boring as fuck season.
You need to include 2018 which was the pinnacle of bonkerness for fw design
That 2002 car was peak
The sequence looks like it's sneezing
The high nose era was a very sad time.
I still draw F1 cars like 2002 models. That's when I started to learn about the sport from my dad and those designs got stuck to my head.
2012 - dark times
2022 wings are sexy as hell. I can't stand those drop wing things, they look like the front fell off of the cars.
The 2012 era front wings are beautiful!
I always wondered why previous gen wings had a hole in the center (sorry engineers). Any thoughts?
still loved the penis noses though, so funny.
2002 looks amazing and iconic
It’s insane how ugly the mid 2000’s cars were yeesh
makes me wonder what 2033 wings will look like
Great comparison but it looks like two generations of turbo hybrids and the first generation of V8 machines machines were skipped. The 2014-2016 V6 Turbo Hybrids, 2017-2021 V6 Turbo Hybrids and V8 2006-2008 with grooves, smaller body and highly complex aerodynamic bits everywhere.
tldr: o O •
OP hiding the worst part of the 2012 nose though.
Those duck face cars a decade looked so very strange. And I think they really lost the plot when we got those dildo-nosed cars - that was hideous. The cars last year were enormous … I still think that the late 80s and early 90s had the best looking cars and liveries.
It's interesting how to get 2022 nose is closer to retro designs than it is to the 2012 one
So we're ignoring the penis years then are we?
2002 was the best.
Bring those front wings back.
i realy think 2009-1013 front wings were amazing
Is it just my fixation, or modern F1 cars' look don't change as much as the ones e.g. pre 90s? Compare the 2002 Ferrari with 2022 Ferrari then do it with a 1982 Ferrari.