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zantkiller

Not gonna lie it took me an embarrassingly long time back in the day to realise this was actually a photoshop. [Massa](https://i.imgur.com/lWt3mJa.jpeg) [Alonso](https://i.imgur.com/avzz7Il.jpeg)


antihero12

I'm the one who made it back then, so this thread brought up some nice memories! When I saw those two photos it immediately clicked what I had to do... Posted it at autosport forums and kept googling it for a few days, it appeared at so many sites all over the world. Even one of the TV commentators for my country used it in an article. Edit: What a wholesome community this is, thanks guys!


CaptGeechNTheSSS

Wow that's gotta be an incredible feeling. And honestly it took me a while to even tell. Nice job!


CityofCold

A few years ago NHL was starting a jersey concept called Reverse Retro and I made a mock-up for the Detroit Red Wings since I hated what the team went with. My thing ended up being featured on BarDown, so not exactly the news etc like op, but still a big site in the hockey world and owned by TSN who are huge in Canada. BarDown is nothing compared to what op achieved but can still confirm it’s supercool getting that kind of acknowledgement, even it’s just something made as a joke or to kill time.


XxRoyalxTigerxX

You mind sharing your design? I thought the Red Wings reverse retro was alright, although it could've been much better like you said


LuNiK7505

Damn you’re a legend dude


_Neurox_

Lol that's amazing. It had me fooled for years lol


ezekieru

based


valium_rage

Legend


bwoah07_gp2

Now that's a great story.


ElementalSheep

Aight but the Massa picture alone is meme-worthy


mir_diddy

Wait what?!?! I wonder what other lies I grew up believing lol


Alvinthf

well we know who was number two in that team don’t we….


Vegetable_Dog_8103

Well we know that Alonso destroyed Massa every season


greatconvoy

Well, Massa wasn't the same after '09.


The_KMag

if you listen to the beyond the grid podcast episode with rob smedley(massa's race engineer, probably the one man who knew more about him than anyone else at the time), he is 100% sure that he had lost none of his speed or ability after his accident - whatever the reason was for massa's decline in form, it absolutely was not because of what happened in 2009


[deleted]

Just listened to that episode last night. You can tell Massa meant the world to Smedley and vice versa. Such a great episode


greatconvoy

Interesting. Maybe it wasn't a physical o neurological issue but a psychological one. Nevertheless he went from disputing the title in 2008 to being number two after his return.


Huplescat22

Massa's terrible accident happened on the 25th of July. There was initial doubt as to whether he could ever race again. Then, the next year on the 25th of July he qualified well and passed Vettel and Alonso for the lead at the start of the [German Grand Prix](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_German_Grand_Prix) It looked for all the world like Massa had not only recovered but had nicely upped his game a notch or three. Everyone was rooting for Massa. Then, later in the race, Ferrari pulled a heartless team orders stunt and made Filipe let Alonso take over the lead. The FIA fined Ferrari $100,000, but Filipe was never the same after that royal fucking by Ferrari.


CP9ANZ

Ha, how do you think Valtteri felt being sacrificed over and over for Lewis.


roflcopter44444

2008 is an outlier imo, Kimi had a ton of DNFs (engine plus being rear ended by Lewis) by around 2/3rds through so the team had to back Filipe given that McLaren had Lewis as their singular focus.


TheRomanRuler

From my understanding, i would say it was a team issue. There was just so much inner politics at Ferrari at end of dream team (Todt, Schumi and Brawn) era. Some people in Ferrari wanted to show that it was not any driver or person who made the team succesful, but it was the Ferrari that allowed them to succeed. So first they wanted Kimi to win championship, which he did, then they wanted Massa to win it in 2008, which he almost did. So 2009 was supposed to be Massa's year again, but car was horrible and people talked about how Ferrari needed strong leadership, so they brought in Alonso as clear #1 driver. I am sure its whole lot more complicated than that because no team, not even Mercedes, was single minded. There are always multiple people in the team, with different opinions and goals. And it seems that at Ferrari they really badly mismanaged lot of it, and then there was just so huge pressure in the team to succeed that they would be more prone to further mistakes. Idk what the state of Ferrari is otherwise, but the pressure to succeed there is just as high as it ever was, and every season they fail to win championship contributes to that pressure.


creditcardtheft

Alonso is better than Kimi


[deleted]

What is Rob supposed to say?


Alexlam24

Felipe baby stay cool


Blooder91

It was probably the 2010 German GP and being forced to play second fiddle to Alonso.


matrixpolaris

Tbf Massa was still racing in Formula E when that was recorded, I don't think Smedley would say anything about performance loss while Massa is still racing in an important title. IIRC Piquet only admitted he got vision loss from a crash in 1987 way after he retired.


mformularacer

Lol exactly. I find it weird how people think Smedley would say anything different.


StealthMan375

I mean, it's Alonso. The guy who at 41 years old is still rocking it, and who would have mopped the floor with Ocon if not for his car being as reliable as the 2005 McLaren.


LuisMuMe

After the bangers that 2005 and 2015 McLaren were I can't wait to see 2025


CP9ANZ

Its kinda meta


Lowbrass

Is this Massa Guaranteeing he crosses the line first?


poopellar

Proof that Ferrari gave preferential treatment to Alonso ^^^/s


LiquidDiviums

“Fernando is faster than you”.


ALOIsFasterThanYou

Incidentally, some years ago, I learned that sentence is too long to be used as a Reddit username


LordBogus

'Massa slides better than you so use him'


WearilyBurly

Why tho? We can see Felipe is actually in front of Fernando and will finish ahead of him if they keep this position


evetsabucs

Also the picture is photoshopped.


ArsenaV108

Proof that something something 2007 idk I'm trying to be toxic but idk how to do it


poisoned_mouse

Alonso driving F2012 Monza spec


BenAustinRock

Someone needs to photoshop Stroll in for Massa as a 2023 preview.


baldbarretto

Shouldn’t be too hard seeing as this is a photoshop to begin with - whoever wants to give it a go can just pull the Alonso half of the picture


Tape56

Except dad Stroll owns the team so Stroll as number 2 for Alonso isn't gonna happen


PlebBot69

Least dangerous skiing with a Ferrari driver


Ultrase7en

Trying no to laugh..


Rivendel93

Lol, too soon.


Josh132GT

Is it?


PaschalisG16

Always


sw39ym

Reminds me of a Gintama episode


inanimatus_conjurus

Ah the old penile brake.


hmu5nt

Bit of a metaphor for their entire relationship


ArsenaV108

Ikr, smiles and fun but Alonso clearly on top


Cerberus_ik

And it is all downhill...


[deleted]

It’s not that serious man it’s just a silly photoshop


IndycarFan64

Yea but it still had news sources going back then 😭


Balthazar_the_Napkin

Felipe staying cool


DesastreUrbano

Let's hope Alonso didn't use the penile brake


FutureF123

Proof that Alonso abuses his teammates to get preferential treatment within his team! /s


Huge_F1_Fan

I hate that I liked this post. Felipe, what the team did you is forever an etched in our minds.


TheCatLamp

The classic first and second driver relationship at Ferrari


IsThatDWade

This was a great shop lmao I remember it well


ZeonTwoSix

> *"Okay. So, Fernando is on top of you. Can you confirm you understood the message?"*


Solitude-09

Reminds me of that snowboarding scene from Gintama


Gokzil6969

A ferrari driver doing skiing is enough to give me ptsd


siluah

The man can drive anything!


Treesarefortraction

Easy to spot who’s the boss. Felipe, Alonso are faster on you.


Profeshyprocrite

Checking


RomanCessna

Very symbolic photo


BadIdea-21

Faster than the McLaren Honda.


racsorry

Took them 3 years to take that picture??


Role-Business

Someone sure knows how to wind back and have some fun during the off season.


IdiosyncraticBond

So, was he inspired by Xenia Zaragevna Onatopp?


Telfs

Must have been a very long hill


Dbwasson

Fernando is faster than you


garagisti43

Fernando is fatter than you. Can you confirm that message?


Cloud2110

What plan is this? 🤔


Qtn68

Looks faster than SF1000


HarkansawJack

He slid for 3 years. True GOAT.


thepseudovirgin

Better than the Honda gp2 engine


Nick_Alsa

Dank


Erin_kurumi

What good wingman


Abdul-Solo

Only in Ohio.


seattt

Typical toxic Alonso. /s


flan-magnussen

This is how Ocon felt all year


CilanEAmber

Perfect analogy for their Ferrari stint


grandtheftzeppelin

on brand for Alonso


some-swimming-dude

Visual representation of their time at Ferrari


davratta

Alonso and Ferrari always treated Massa like a coal pit donkey.


Phoenix-Rising-78

"Felipe, Fernando is faster than you"


FiftyOne151

Fenando, is faster, than you.


knbang

That's the most expensive snowsled available.


incognitodingo

team orders smh my head


rntpe

Ferrari 2010-2013 seasons summarized


cbung

GP2 engine?


Pkh1316

Alonso is faster than you, can you confirm you understand the message?