in context it's clearly a justification. the comment is saying, "why are you defending a billionaire from evidenceless accusations? don't you know that person is a billionaire, and therefore either (1) is a bad boss, or (2) deserves to receive hate online, or (3) both of the above."
Or, secret option number 4,
“he’s a billionaire… that is a term describing his wealth and because he has that much wealth, he doesn’t know or care about random Redditor number 9394847 writes online”
On the contrary, I'd say with Seb in the mix they were the best possible years for him to express himself.
It was Matt who got Seb on BBC Question Time. It was he who organised a lot of the stuff he did off camera.
Seb ended up becoming an ally and got to learn a lot more about the LGBTQ+ community because of him.
Matt played a critical role in enabling and arranging a lot of the good stuff that Seb went through this year.
"Seb ended up becoming an ally and got to learn a lot more about the LGBTQ+ community because of him."
I didn't know that. Thanks for the info! And that's a wonderful contribution by this person.
Matt iirc had him give an interview with an LGBTQ+ magazine. "only straight guy to feature" in that magazine or something. To talk about allyship, Sebs support for the LGBTQ+ community and his friends from the said community, among other things.
I seem to recall him suggesting he may write an F1 book one day. Wouldn't that be good.
Could be a million reasons he's leaving. Sick of travel, doesn't fancy it any more, all sorts.
But if he's in post two years, that means he handed in his notice a little while ago (at the very least), which means he didn't get *that* long into the job before deciding against it.
From what he's suggested on twitter, he's most likely moving teams.
Matts Perry iconic in the paddock and quite close to the lot is drivers. Especially old ones like Lewis, KMag (who credited him to saving him at Mclaren), Alonso and now Seb.
Could very well be a move to an upcoming German team wanting to establish themselves in a few years
It will be sad that hes leaving Aston Martin but his insights into F1 history have been something else, but it really did sound like a prison sentence in the way he said it there so weird
Ah, right, thanks! He was on an episode of Missed Apex a while back, seems like a good dude.
*Edit*: this one
https://missedapexpodcast.com/episode-list/2022/6/26/49dgt0di34ttbp6g0p70inut6hf5zq
In the same thread, he also mentioned he didn't feel like retiring yet, was he forced out? Sad for him. On the other hand, can he go back to GP Racing (previously F1 Racing mag) as chief editor? It's no longer humorous now, it literally put me to sleep after a couple of paragraphs.
Sadly MB was saying in an interview he thinks that medium is dead. They can't compete with social media. From the team/sponsor perspective, it's not efficient use of the driver's time to have them spend two days with one journalist skiing or something, versus loads of vlogs and so on. Times have changed since the Matt/Peter glory days.
Yeah but you are missing some context, Aramco is state-owned by Saudi Arabia. It's a little bit more than 'hating on oil money'. They're not just any oil company.
Aramco is Saudi Arabia
Aramco sponsors F1 in 2020 season and two years later we have a Saudi Arabian GP for multiple years.
I'm fully aware of all the context.
How does being tied to Saudi Arabia make them worse than someone like Petronas, who was accused of war crimes in Sudan, Shell who was complicit in the tortures of Nigerians, or any of the other myriad of crimes these companies have committed?
Seriously, Shell has basically coerced, bribed, and murdered their way to being the de-facto rulers of Nigeria. They’ve utterly annihilated the ecology, crippled their economy, poisoned countess of their citizens and taken every penny of profit from that country’s natural resources and left them with nothing. Not to mention their intimidation, torture, and murder of anyone who dares stand against them nor the fact that they own the military their and thus will never face any real opposition as they bleed the country dry. But hey Aramco is run by Muslims so that’s gotta be worse right?
There was a lesbian couple that claimed that they were abused and harassed for being lesbian (in Hungary or Austria?) so AM provided them shelter in the garage but it turned out the couple were actually the people that were egging people on and trying to cause a reaction
Those two girls who alleged they suffered homophobic abuse at the Austrian GP were at Silverstone earlier in the year. They posted a picture of a random guy walking past them and accused him of saying something hateful to them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/vw991z/aston_martin_f1_team_its_our_pleasure_to_host/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
https://sasatimes.com/aston-martins-press-secretary-alleged-that-two-f1-fans-fabricated-the-abuse/
He was trashing a comedian's set and I said that I thought it was funny and clever. He responded by blocking me. That's the worst kind of person who creates that level of echo chamber in their socials.
Fair point my dude, that seems to genuinely be a valid reason. The better take would have been to either ignore you, or just leave a "to each their own."
I agree too though that creating that level of echo chamber isn't good for anyone; it doesn't usually hurt to hear a different opinion.
‘I’ve done two years’. Sounds like a prison sentence
"despite the challenge" I would also expect everyone going to an F1 team to be the kind of person seeking challenges, but the right ones.
Time spent at Stroll Penitentiary.
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Not very nice to make shit up about anyone
imagine casting baseless aspersions and justifying it by reference to income level
it's not just income level
the comment to which I'm responding IS justifying it solely by income level
Looks more like an adjective than a justification.
in context it's clearly a justification. the comment is saying, "why are you defending a billionaire from evidenceless accusations? don't you know that person is a billionaire, and therefore either (1) is a bad boss, or (2) deserves to receive hate online, or (3) both of the above."
Or, secret option number 4, “he’s a billionaire… that is a term describing his wealth and because he has that much wealth, he doesn’t know or care about random Redditor number 9394847 writes online”
Guy is probably an Elon stan, too
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He responded meanly to a mean (snarky) comment to begin with 🤷♂️
In hindsight those two years were rather wasted if were being dead honest.
On the contrary, I'd say with Seb in the mix they were the best possible years for him to express himself. It was Matt who got Seb on BBC Question Time. It was he who organised a lot of the stuff he did off camera. Seb ended up becoming an ally and got to learn a lot more about the LGBTQ+ community because of him. Matt played a critical role in enabling and arranging a lot of the good stuff that Seb went through this year.
"Seb ended up becoming an ally and got to learn a lot more about the LGBTQ+ community because of him." I didn't know that. Thanks for the info! And that's a wonderful contribution by this person.
Matt iirc had him give an interview with an LGBTQ+ magazine. "only straight guy to feature" in that magazine or something. To talk about allyship, Sebs support for the LGBTQ+ community and his friends from the said community, among other things.
I seem to recall him suggesting he may write an F1 book one day. Wouldn't that be good. Could be a million reasons he's leaving. Sick of travel, doesn't fancy it any more, all sorts. But if he's in post two years, that means he handed in his notice a little while ago (at the very least), which means he didn't get *that* long into the job before deciding against it.
Prolly when vettel said goodbye
From what he's suggested on twitter, he's most likely moving teams. Matts Perry iconic in the paddock and quite close to the lot is drivers. Especially old ones like Lewis, KMag (who credited him to saving him at Mclaren), Alonso and now Seb. Could very well be a move to an upcoming German team wanting to establish themselves in a few years
A very nice suggestion!
I hope it's better written than this announcement.
It will be sad that hes leaving Aston Martin but his insights into F1 history have been something else, but it really did sound like a prison sentence in the way he said it there so weird
He's a good follow on twitter, as you said he shares some interesting facts almost every day.
Probably working with Vettel was the only good part
for whoever is unaware, Matt Bishop was AMR’s Chief Communications Officer.
Thank you, this is the answer I came looking for
Ah, right, thanks! He was on an episode of Missed Apex a while back, seems like a good dude. *Edit*: this one https://missedapexpodcast.com/episode-list/2022/6/26/49dgt0di34ttbp6g0p70inut6hf5zq
I would love for him to do something with Seb 🤞
Interesting tone...
Ferrari TP confirmed?
Plan B
question
Wet tyres with 45°C track and 0 clouds in a 200km radius.
SF strategy guy...is that you?
Please, stop inventing.
I wish. They make a lot more money than I do. ;)
I don't think they let the heads of strategy team leave their own colons for as long as they work for Ferrari, though.
He isn't Italian
he's way too smart for that
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He didn’t want to have to deal with nando! /s
Nando wouldn't deal with Nando, given the choice.
He already work with Alonso once before at mclaren
I am sure Nando worked with Alonso at McLaren. And even Renault and Ferrari as well. /s
Even at minardi
Bishop likes to celebrate the crashgate anniversary.. as a twitter ephemeride. Couldnt have done so if working for Alonso.
A good way to say i can’t deal with your shit especially now when Seb is gone . Definitely won’t miss these 2 years 💀
Well Sebs replacement is Nando, yea, he ain't dealing with beautiful dumpster fire
And the photo with Seb.
Well this is something I didn't expect, really curious what Bishop would do next in F1.
Maybe he’s seeing how he’d look in red?
In the same thread, he also mentioned he didn't feel like retiring yet, was he forced out? Sad for him. On the other hand, can he go back to GP Racing (previously F1 Racing mag) as chief editor? It's no longer humorous now, it literally put me to sleep after a couple of paragraphs.
Sadly MB was saying in an interview he thinks that medium is dead. They can't compete with social media. From the team/sponsor perspective, it's not efficient use of the driver's time to have them spend two days with one journalist skiing or something, versus loads of vlogs and so on. Times have changed since the Matt/Peter glory days.
De La Rosa and Alonso was to much for him
who is this?
I wonder if the aramco/SA sponsorship played a role in his decision making progress.
Aramco is just the current evil company trend. All of the oil sponsors are just as evil.
Exxon shell gulf petronas Oil money is everywhere in f1
Yeah but you are missing some context, Aramco is state-owned by Saudi Arabia. It's a little bit more than 'hating on oil money'. They're not just any oil company. Aramco is Saudi Arabia Aramco sponsors F1 in 2020 season and two years later we have a Saudi Arabian GP for multiple years.
I'm fully aware of all the context. How does being tied to Saudi Arabia make them worse than someone like Petronas, who was accused of war crimes in Sudan, Shell who was complicit in the tortures of Nigerians, or any of the other myriad of crimes these companies have committed?
Seriously, Shell has basically coerced, bribed, and murdered their way to being the de-facto rulers of Nigeria. They’ve utterly annihilated the ecology, crippled their economy, poisoned countess of their citizens and taken every penny of profit from that country’s natural resources and left them with nothing. Not to mention their intimidation, torture, and murder of anyone who dares stand against them nor the fact that they own the military their and thus will never face any real opposition as they bleed the country dry. But hey Aramco is run by Muslims so that’s gotta be worse right?
Unlikely considering Aramco is a main sponsor of F1, and basically every F1 team has other problematic sponsors.
Yes, but Tezos or Bybit aren't owned by a country that believes he shouldn't exist.
Like I said, if Bishop was concerned about Aramco, he wouldn't be in F1.
The reason was Alonso older affairs
Sounds like he wasn't wanted, and maybe bringing those fake news grifters into the AM garage didn't sit well.
What’s that supposed to mean?
There was a lesbian couple that claimed that they were abused and harassed for being lesbian (in Hungary or Austria?) so AM provided them shelter in the garage but it turned out the couple were actually the people that were egging people on and trying to cause a reaction
Those two girls who alleged they suffered homophobic abuse at the Austrian GP were at Silverstone earlier in the year. They posted a picture of a random guy walking past them and accused him of saying something hateful to them. https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/vw991z/aston_martin_f1_team_its_our_pleasure_to_host/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://sasatimes.com/aston-martins-press-secretary-alleged-that-two-f1-fans-fabricated-the-abuse/
is twitter still a reliable source for informations of such a weight?
Who is he? Vettel’s race engineer?
Good riddance.
How so?
He was trashing a comedian's set and I said that I thought it was funny and clever. He responded by blocking me. That's the worst kind of person who creates that level of echo chamber in their socials.
Fair point my dude, that seems to genuinely be a valid reason. The better take would have been to either ignore you, or just leave a "to each their own." I agree too though that creating that level of echo chamber isn't good for anyone; it doesn't usually hurt to hear a different opinion.
I don't think I've ever blocked a non bot. I just don't understand it.
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Why would that matter? I feel like that's a pretty solid take.
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Thanks. Your view means a lot.
Alonso curse continues?
I too will not be working for Aston Martin next year
I too will not be working for Aston Martin next year