Yes but given how strong the start of the season was for them, it would be incredibly embarrassing if they don't even secure 2nd in the constructors. They would care about that for branding
Drivers and teams should always aim for the highest possible position. If there's no incentive for that, or worse an incentive to tank, the rules need changing
That's not reality. The reality is F1 is a cutthroat sport and drivers care about beating everyone. If it's not 19 drivers than at least 18 drivers, and so on. Both teams and drivers are highly competitive. None of them wants to come last, just because they were out of contention for first.
Pretty sure Ferrariās yearly bonus payment is closer to the constructors champion amount than the difference between 2nd and 3rd. Thatās on top of whatever their prize money is.
Do you follow football (soccer for americans), if not then I'll explain it to you, Tottenham are perennial chokers, they haven't won a title in ages, the closest they came was in 2016 when they were in thr title fight till the penultimate week but infact they choked so hard that they finished p3 when otherwise they were p1 or p2 all year long and the team which finished p2 was infact their cross city rivals
Ferrari wasn't light from the beginning. Just lighter than RBR and Merc.
And Alfa was the only team that was on target, so seems a bit weird to mention them in the same sentence (as that implies they were on the same/similar weight).
Yes, they brought a huge update and probably learned more and more with minor updates along the races, RB was always good car development in the late season, which Ferrari managed to do once successfully back in 2012.
Really wondering why Alpine wasn't having a good quali pace on the softs, also the fight between Alfa Romeo vs Aston Martin is still ongoing, and the fight between Merc and Ferrari.
Binotto said that they didn't upgrade the car because of the cap, others (Horner said that 6 team will overspend) probably breached the cap in a big way, so not a big shame IMHO. Ferrari (even if we know they're a living meme) has a brand to defend, others minus mercedes (and maybe AM) don't
19 points difference between Ferrari and Mercedes.
If Ferrari finishes 5-6 (the lowest realistic), they score 18 points. Mercedes would need 37 points. 2-3 finish is only 33 so Mercs need to win and the other car 4th or higher, 3rd for FL safety.
If Mercs doesn't win and Ferrari doesn't DNF, Ferrari gets 2nd.
E: math error, edited now
its so sad that ferrari really have given up and āfocusing on next yearā again we all know how thats gonna go without any fundamental changes to the structure and function of the team.
It's just the number of laps they ran in the session. It's not really a huge indicator of much; more laps could mean more data gathering / race-pace testing, fewer laps could mean constant setup changes, or they could mean none of those things at all.
Ferrari look like they're back to being the 3rd fastest car like last year.
We've come full circle. Like a race track.
Like Nascar?
Yes, an oval is a circle.
Nerd hat on: An oval is not a circle. A circle has all points equidistant from the centre. š¤
In other words, it's the other way around, a circle is an oval.
Like sheep.
I think like this could be really fast, and this is why they are not really doing it.
That's what Ferrari does best, upgrading a car from race winner to podium contender.
here me hoping ferrari is sandbagging but charles saying his Tyres are done after 4 corner is worrying..
Nah Ferrari has a huge tyre deg issue after TD39, they could really lose P2 with Merc.
yea im keeping my expectation very low, And after race i will make sure not to touch any social media.
Also they were complaining about bottoming out creating stability issues. Not a great sign.
I certainly agree to this as well, because the ability is totally more than what we have seen.
Seems as if Ferrari's best hope is to take a 5-6 and pray for Max to win
Your missing the galaxy brain play. Give up 2nd in the WCC and gain more windtunnel time. /s
They give up 2nd place this year to get more windtunnel time that will help them finish second place next yearš
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I don't really think like they're going to do anything like that by sacrificing that.
They are definitely going to get it. And this is the reason why everyone likes it.
Really beneficial for the next yearā¢
I completely agree to this, like it will be really beneficial for them in long term.
Elkann would blow a gasket if Ferrari ends up losing P2 in the constructors.
What are they actually doing is I'm not really able to understand, like, how it is even better than that.
Debatable. Prize money > wind tunnel allocation
Not for Ferrari
I absolutely agree to this as of now, because this is not what I was expecting.
Not when your parent company is loaded with cash and sponsors.
Yes but given how strong the start of the season was for them, it would be incredibly embarrassing if they don't even secure 2nd in the constructors. They would care about that for branding
They're not really branding anything like that, but they're absolutely going to secure it.
Exactly, the money is nice but replaceable, windtunnel time isn't
If it is going to be like that, then they have already done this kind of things like that.
Drivers and teams should always aim for the highest possible position. If there's no incentive for that, or worse an incentive to tank, the rules need changing
Sure. But the reality in F1 is that the only place that matters in #1. Nobody cares who is the runnerup.
That's not reality. The reality is F1 is a cutthroat sport and drivers care about beating everyone. If it's not 19 drivers than at least 18 drivers, and so on. Both teams and drivers are highly competitive. None of them wants to come last, just because they were out of contention for first.
Do don't care about price money, they already get 100 million because they are Ferrari.
Pretty sure Ferrariās yearly bonus payment is closer to the constructors champion amount than the difference between 2nd and 3rd. Thatās on top of whatever their prize money is.
I don't really think like it is just about the price when you're something, whatever they say.
Only for the smaller teams
Completely agree to this. This is not just about the team or something like that.
I'm just going to allocate something like that. Then it is eventually going to work really nice.
But the fact is like it is very fast, and this is the reason why I also like it.
What good would that do for them?
2nd in constructors.
They can do everything like that. But this is not going to be constructed by them.
2nd on the wcc championship
They are definitely going to get a better position right now if they want.
If ver Ɣnd you er finish in front of them?
Yes.
Certainly agree to this as well as most of the people have seen these kind of things.
But they have already done that in front of them, then it would have been totally different case.
This is absolutely one of the best thing I see. Like, this is really good as well.
Start as well, but I'm not really sure about it yet. If they are going to get that,
Obvs only fp3... But scenes if Ferrari actually finish 3rd in a two-horse race
The Tottenham Special
Upvoting and I hate it...
I also hate it, but the fact is it is really one of the best.
https://youtu.be/JxHdytQZ3ds
What does that mean? I mean, we can absolutely see these things are really good right now.
I'm catching strays everywhere man
I agree to this right now, because everywhere it is like that only.
Dammit
What is the even matter right now? Because I'm not really able to get this.
Do you follow football (soccer for americans), if not then I'll explain it to you, Tottenham are perennial chokers, they haven't won a title in ages, the closest they came was in 2016 when they were in thr title fight till the penultimate week but infact they choked so hard that they finished p3 when otherwise they were p1 or p2 all year long and the team which finished p2 was infact their cross city rivals
This is more like it is not less than what we have seen now.
Hey Ferrari, your 2020 is showing.
They said they didn't seriously upgrade the car since summer break because of cost cap. It shows lately.
Red Bull didn't upgrade either.
But they apparently found 20Kg in the car since the first race, Ferrari (and Alfa) was light from the beginning.
Ferrari wasn't light from the beginning. Just lighter than RBR and Merc. And Alfa was the only team that was on target, so seems a bit weird to mention them in the same sentence (as that implies they were on the same/similar weight).
that's true, but that was already the case in Spa I believe.
Yes, they brought a huge update and probably learned more and more with minor updates along the races, RB was always good car development in the late season, which Ferrari managed to do once successfully back in 2012.
It actually look like this is just the starting only in the definitely going to get better in future.
This is done very good, actually. And I think, like, this is more about how everyone is going to see that.
20kg of sandbags
I actually think like they can certainly change a lot of things in that kind of concert.
Absolutely right about it deserve a place here, and everyone is going to love it.
Yes, but Ferrari have also been massively hampered by TD39 and have turned the PUs way down. The car is a shadow of its former self.
Lol
We certainly have to attempt a lot of things. And I think, like it is one of the best thing.
A lot of things are like that today, and we don't really notice them in real life.
I don't really understand it. What is change required to do that?
Dexter need to get this kind of sponsors more right now.
You mean 2018? Where they failed they development battle again?
I'm definitely going to take a note of notes from that. It actually look like a really good thing.
Checo heard Jenson talking shit
Really wondering why Alpine wasn't having a good quali pace on the softs, also the fight between Alfa Romeo vs Aston Martin is still ongoing, and the fight between Merc and Ferrari.
This is not just like things like that, only to be honest. It's not going to happen.
Ferrari will achieve the FEAT of losing the championship to Mercedes
The matter of the fact is like that only because they have already done these kind of things.
Ferrari is saying goodbye to P2 in the constructors championship.
That's fine, they get more wind tunnel time. Charles saying goodbye to P2 in the drivers though....
This is almost perfect right now. This is more like how they are carrying it.
the Alpines have been super close all weekend, it is going to be fun and ugly lmao
They are absolutely getting a lot of performances like that in the future, to be honest.
Has Ferrari really regressed this much.
Sandbanging for extra windtunnel time.
Binotto said that they didn't upgrade the car because of the cap, others (Horner said that 6 team will overspend) probably breached the cap in a big way, so not a big shame IMHO. Ferrari (even if we know they're a living meme) has a brand to defend, others minus mercedes (and maybe AM) don't
>Horner said I wouldnāt take that too seriously
I feel like this comment is evergreen
Write your absolutely right. I don't really understand it. Clap during this kind of rhythms.
They're definitely doing that. And this is more like it is going to play along.
Checo doing what he has to do. Lets hope he can repeat this in Q3.
19 points difference between Ferrari and Mercedes. If Ferrari finishes 5-6 (the lowest realistic), they score 18 points. Mercedes would need 37 points. 2-3 finish is only 33 so Mercs need to win and the other car 4th or higher, 3rd for FL safety. If Mercs doesn't win and Ferrari doesn't DNF, Ferrari gets 2nd. E: math error, edited now
5-6 lowest realistic ? Oh boy š
Lol Ferrari 'bout to show *another* new strategy...
This is very simple kind of fact that people need to understand that clearly.
They would not have thought about it. It was not really made that much.
5-6 is 18 points
Oopsie
I have already liked it, and this is why I think they have certainly asked for the links also.
Very happy with Ricciardo's performance.
Heās the standard 4 tenths off norris itās just the mclaren seems faster here
No doubt about it. This is more like we are giving a different kind of mindset.
Maybe because of the new floor update? What do you think.
There is no new floor update.
Ma boy is flying
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Keep the negativity flowing
Hopefully he doesnāt crash in Qauli
Looks tough for Ferrari, looking good for lando though š
When Checo does badly in FP: och he can't reach max When Checo tops FP: hey it's only free practice
They will not be doing it right now. And this is the reason they are actually allowing it.
Top 8 looks like a copy and paste from the 2021 season
Exactly I was trying to ask and make sense out of it as well. But that doesn't really matter. I see.
its so sad that ferrari really have given up and āfocusing on next yearā again we all know how thats gonna go without any fundamental changes to the structure and function of the team.
Ferrari are at risk of bottling P2 here. If Mercedes go 2 and 3, thatās 33 points. Ferrari would need 14 points, the equivalent of a 5-6 finish.
Don't really understand the piglet with Hindu questions there. Actually asking.
Interesting to see what the long runs say Seems like they were out for long time
I know right even I play a lot of instruments, and this is eventually one of the best thing I have seen.
Latifi ends the season in style, just like how he started
There are a lot of people who are actually going to tell people to do that.
My boy Seb going out on a high
I don't really find any simple guy who is actually going to like it.
It's baffling that they're all within 2.3 seconds of each other.
They're definitely going to be very proud of that I can already see these things.
Vamos Checo! Heās ready to take that second place on the driverās championship (without any help š)
I was told yesterday that Checo was done, So... what happened? D:
Wait for quali.
Okay. What are we waiting for now?
I completely bet on this. And this is why I think like it's actually going to be best.
What does that actually mean? I'm not really able to understand it.
So I'm new to F1. What do the lap numbers mean? Just how many laps it took to achieve those times? Less is good? More is bad?
It's just the number of laps they ran in the session. It's not really a huge indicator of much; more laps could mean more data gathering / race-pace testing, fewer laps could mean constant setup changes, or they could mean none of those things at all.
Generally isnāt good or bad, just means how many laps they did during the session.
They certainly can do something better in that. But eventually, this is one of the best.
This is more like they have already done these things a lot of times in the past as well.
Missed it. Did max give Checo a tow?
nope, did it on pure merit
Absolutely blown my mind as well. And this is why I'm really liking it, to be honest.
This is not really going to be something weird. This is what has already been done.
Latifi never disappoints š Mister consistent
Yes, this is absolute thing I was thinking about as well. Like, why they didn't even hear it for the first time?
I hope Leclerc loses to Perez by 1 position by gets the fastest lap so that Max not letting Checo through costs them.
At the places they'll be finishing this race 1 position will 100% be more than 1 point
I agree to this completely. Eventually, we will get better in the future workshop. Ha
It looks like it's i need a team Racing Point PĆ©rez time, or at least i hope it is
Update just about the music only then it doesn't really matter rise of now.
Iām rooting for Lewis
Vamos Perez !
No joke, Mercedes taking 2nd place in the WCC seems more and more possible. It would be the last nail in the coffin for Ferrari