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TheRoboteer

One of the big ones would be when he was given a stop-go penalty right near the end of the 1998 British Grand Prix. You have to serve a stop-go within 3 laps of being issued, but this one was given so near the end of the race that Schumacher/his team realised that they could serve it on the final lap of the race, and that the placement of the finish line on that circuit would mean that he would cross the line to win the race while in the pits.


A-le-Couvre

Till this day I’m still not sure if what he did was against the regulations or against the *spirit* of the regulations.


AshKetchumDaJobber

Ralf and Michael partied and destroyed a hotel room after Michael won the championship in 2000 or 2001. Michael paid for it of course. Dont know if its actually true or not


Dirtrash

Are we talking about [this](https://imgur.com/a/6ipIQ#vrKYADW) party?


theantijokef1

That last pic is pretty NSFW Doubt Schumi had a forklift licence


A-le-Couvre

Will this be Schumi topless? Edit: It is and I’m not disappointed


SubcooledBoiling

I think it was 2003 in Suzuka. Some [photos](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/21dws6/lets_not_forget_how_micheal_celebrated_his_2003/)


riffola1

Michael knew the rule book. At the 2003 European GP at Nurburgring, Montoya and Michael were tussling and Michael ended up in the gravel trap ended up stuck in a dangerous positions. Michael kept the car running and asked the Marshalls to push his car out of the gravel trap. He got free and ended up finishing 5th. There was a huge brouhaha about it. But the rule book stated that the Marshalls can push a car out of a dangerous position and since Michael was able to continue, he didn’t get a DNF.


roamingscotsman_84

Same for Hamilton in 08 i think, when a huge river appeared on the pit straight and turn 1 became a very expensive car park


terkmadugga

Nurburgring 2007


roamingscotsman_84

Markus Winkelhock has entered the chat


buldakov29

15 years ago today


Nappi22

After that they changed the rules. For worse later that season in China.


SubcooledBoiling

Can't mention Schumi without bringing up his [fashion](https://imgur.com/a/mzU6i)


snowice0

GOAT of F1 fashion


berberine

Thank you for these pics. 1) I've seen most of them, but some of them were new and...wow. Brave man to wear some of that. 2) Also, I saw [this](https://imgur.com/gallery/wQt2X3F), which made me smile. 3) Also saw this post of my garbage [congressman](https://imgur.com/gallery/3qCeAYA). Not sure how a gallery of Schumacher fashion had this link as something related though. The internet is wild and confusing sometimes. I'm gonna go look at the duck again.


Saandrig

The Ferrari mechanics couldn't tune the car to the best possible settings because Schumacher would go in it and make it look great no matter the setup. And he would say it feels fine and works. Then his teammate would barely be able to stay on track in the thing. That's why they signed Barichello who was known to give great car feedback.


MyNameIsSushi

*engine barely hanging on, wrong wing setup* > wdym wrong setup? i just set the fastest lap - The Michael


Saandrig

He could do a 360 spin on the track in qualy and still be 0.5s faster than Herbert. Hungarian GP 1995 if anyone wonders.


jazzman23uk

Jesus I've never seen that before, that's insane. Obv The Michael was ridiculously good, but also Herbert really was shit, wasn't he?


Potential-Brain7735

There was also a quali session at either Bahrain or Sepang, I can’t remember, where he basically had a Tokyo drift moment and still managed to set fastest lap to take pole.


dreadpiraterobertsdd

This has never been proven but In 1994, Ayrton suspected that MSC’s Benetton was running an illegal traction control system giving Schumacher’s Benetton no wheel spin during the start and on exit. After being knocked out of a race, Ayrton didn’t return to the pits but stood along side the race track and listened to Schumacher’s acceleration which confirmed his suspicion.


Dirtrash

This was the 1994 Pacific Grand Prix. Before qualifying, Charlie Whiting went out to listen to the cars and [was suspicious about Ferrari](https://www.racefans.net/2014/04/15/schumacher-wins-traction-control-row-brews/). After qualifying, one of Ferrari's drivers, Larini accidentally hinted that Ferrari had in fact been running traction control. Benneton were not suspicious to Whiting but were in fact [running a system that helped traction](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-rotational-inertia-led-traction-control-willem-toet?trk=pulse-article). However, it **was not illegal** by the rules governing traction control, as told by William Toet, Benneton's head of Aero at the time. Toet also alleges that Senna may have heard Schumacher's use of left-foot braking. Although LFB had been used for decades prior to the 90's, Schumacher used it to its full potential, often overlapping brake and throttle inputs. It's also possible that Senna just made it up. He DNF'd from the first two races while Schumacher won both.


Saandrig

Plus Senna apparently hated Schumacher. Even before their tussle.


jonomarkono

Wait, really? Kinda sad if that's true considering [how much equaling Senna's racing victories means for him](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOQjYCwgLdE).


JackieDRabbit

Benetton was cheating on all fronts…


Saandrig

And of course you have definitive proof about it all?


SlightlyPositiveGuy

He's a redditor, he knows everything and his word is 100% factual


Tysons_Face

Well his flair does say “Nostradamus” lol


dl064

There is the on-record one that their car was found with illegal traction control software, but they claimed it was simply resting in their account. 'If you buy that, I'll throw in the Golden Gate Bridge for free'


Saandrig

You obviously have no clue what TC is. Or what case you are talking about. Show me this "on-record". Where is says it was TC. And not for example... I dunno - SC. And did you know all teams had illegal TC in their software in 1994? And SC. Bet you didn't. And they all claimed they didn't use it. The only suspects were Ferrari.


dl064

"1994 - What were the allegations against Benetton from Senna? - Racing Comments Archive - The Autosport Forums" https://forums.autosport.com/topic/39401-1994-what-were-the-allegations-against-benetton-from-senna/#:~:text=In%201994%20Benetton%20had%20traction,was%20only%20used%20in%20testing.


Saandrig

Seriously? That's all you got? A suspicion from Senna? Who hated Schumacher? I guess you also didn't know that Benetton used a legal method that simulated some TC effects. Which FIA spilled the beans on and then every team copied it. If Senna even suspected anything, it was this. Which, as said, was legal.


JackieDRabbit

Senna’s suspicions, the fuel fire due to lack of fuel filter, the software for launch control found and traces of other deleted code the FIA found on the car. The whirring noise lots of other drivers reported coming from Schumacher’s car. The excessive plank wear on his car too. Schumacher’s start at the 1994 french Grand Prix was pretty suspicious and akin to traction control starts. Schumacher himself was a pretty dirty driver and made many questionable moves. Now let’s add the fact that the FIA itself said it couldn’t patrolling driver aids properly.


Saandrig

Senna's suspicions - great proof, lol. Lack of filter - used by the majority of the grid since at least May. Launch control software - found in every team. Deleted code - imagine no code ever being deleted, rofl. Whirring noise - boy, a car making a noise. Got anything more than this rock solid proof of whatever? Plank wear - Berger barely had a plank left in his Germany win and FIA didn't care. But a milimeter wear on Schumacher was such a massive deal somehow. Especially when there was a race incident that explained the wear. French GP - a single good start in the whole year and that somehow is a proof? Schumacher had bad starts all season, but biased and clueless people keep saying "French GP" as if Schumacher wasn't allowed to achieve a good start for once. If anything, you should be suspect of the good starts of his rivals. Who also had launch control software in their cars. Every single successful driver has made loads of questionable moves in his career. How is that even an argument?


JackieDRabbit

Senna has driven a car with driver aids, in fact he was the last driver to win a race with such until 2004 when the FIA removed the ban, so his experience counts for more than your blabbing since you probably don’t even own a manual license let alone race. It was Benetton who was caught cheating without the filter and at doing so risks crew members life. Not half of the grid. No, it wasn’t found in every team, it was found on Benetton, and it was under a hidden menu, Ferrari was cleared and McLaren was found to have software for automatic gear shifts. Benetton was the only team who claimed they couldn’t just purge the software. Traces of deleted code on itself are not reason of wrongdoing but when it comes to Benetton’s dodgy season it all adds up. Circumstantial evidence is still evidence. Many drivers were suspicious, again people with a lot of more experience when it comes to driver’s illegal aids than you or me. I will take Damon Hill’s word over yours. It wasn’t a millimetre. The limit was 10 and it had 7.4, so it was 2.6 millimetres. You are talking nonsense. Also, not every successful driver has been suspended like Michael was lol I don’t like Lewis but Jesus if he doesn’t drive without controversy while miles career it’s plagued with it. Cheat after cheat.


Saandrig

It's funny how you get desperate and rain in the personal attacks. You got no proof, just bias at your side and try to shout it as loud as you can. Ten teams on the grid were found to have removed the filter. There was a whole FIA investigation about it. That's why they couldn't penalize Benetton without hitting their rivals as well. The plank was allowed to wear down to 9mm. Berger's plank was barely 4mm. So Scumacher's wasn't even over 2 mm outside the regulation. Plus it wasn't the whole plank, but just a portion of it, which is explained by the Benetton going over gravel. You know what a funny thing is about software, especially TC and LC one? Something that many people like you always ignore to mention or just plain have no clue about? Yup - hardware. You can have all the software you want, but you can't make it work in a million years if you don't have the TC and LC hardware to support it - sensors for wheel spin, sensors for throttle movement, etc. FIA looked for that, especially on Benetton and never found it. And those aren't things you can move down a menu. That's why no team with the software was ever punished.


SubcooledBoiling

To add to that, after Senna's crash the FIA investigated every car's software and found that Benetton had hidden launch control in their software called Option 13 which could only be activated following some specific steps. Benetton then claimed that it was just there but never used, and they got away with it.


Saandrig

Just about every car on the grid was found to have TC and SC software that could be used on demand. It wasn't an issue for it to be there. The issue was if it was used. Only Ferrari were suspected to have done so due to some reserve driver slip ups. Benetton were cleared of suspicion after an investigation.


dl064

'That software was simply resting in my account'


fafan4

I wish I could upvote this more than once


dl064

I’m not calling about the software, Ted.


roamingscotsman_84

Option 13 has entered the chat


dl064

Newey alleged fairly transparently that he thinks Schumacher's car specifically was cheating at Benetton.


A-le-Couvre

He once made a 4-stopper work by essentially racing an entire race at qualifying pace.


Potential-Brain7735

France 2004


roamingscotsman_84

Loved all the Schumacher/ferrari 97 champions merch that was made then wasn't disposed of properly so started appearing on ebay a few years later


monza2020

Can't wait for the Lewis 2021 merch to drop. I mean honestly, I'd rather fans end up with some wacky merch with an interesting backstory (e.g. AusGP 2020, McLaren F1 "Tream", Lewis 21, etc.) than for it to all go to a landfill.


Saandrig

Shame about his move at the last race. He was doing a mental season before that, maybe his best ever.


aussiegrit4wrldchamp

yeah his 97 season is overshadowed by that but the fact he got that far in an inferior car is amazing to me


gregdrou

Are there any pictures


Potential-Brain7735

Not so much a pure Michael thing, more so a Ferrari thing, but one year, for the first 5-6 races of the season, they actually ran the previous year’s car, because the new car wasn’t ready. They still ended up winning the championship.