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Cer3berus

Max if not for the red flag would have been fucked in those softs in race


yoda_yoda

So both Max and Mick overtook Magnussen and Vettel after the restart. Does anyone have videos as it was not covered during the race.


Fun-Disk7030

I wonder what the people in the medical car were thinking as they saw the crash unfold in front of them?


popoflabbins

Had to watch it a day late but totally worth the wait! Awesome race from pretty much start to finish. Excellent strategy, battles, and beast drives across the grid. Definitely one of the best of the year.


Kierada97

I still can’t get over how good that race was


s_c0929

It’s almost like race tracks specifically designed for racing produce better racing, can’t believe it


RealFakeTshirts

Almost… ^Abu ^Dhabi…


s_c0929

How does Sainz have so much power with the Ferrari political hierarchy only having been there for a year


Whycantiusethis

I'm not sure what you specifically mean, but he comes across as a pretty positive and hard-working guy. When he was at McLaren, I think he was putting more time in at the factory than most other drivers. He even moved to be closer to McLaren's factory, and I believe he's done the same with Ferrari. That sort of commitment/work ethic is probably noticed by the higher-ups. It's not to say that Leclerc doesn't do the same, but Sainz had more to prove over this and last season, so he might have gone above and beyond? Definitely some speculation on my part though.


BeautifulNacho

People blaming max as a dirty driver for simply holding the racing line never really watched a race. I welcome the new fans, but Jesus are they toxic.


BadWowDoge

He made a sketchy move on Mick on the last lap… it wasn’t illegal but it was definitely questionable. 🤷🏼‍♂️


NetGlass4387

tbh the entire field went rogue this race


BadWowDoge

Yep, and it was awesome


T4Gx

Kinda mindfucking that Tom Cruise is 28 years older than Checo.


RickTheCondorSmith

What a fucking blast that was yesterday. Loved watching every minute of it


2KC4

100% boss. That was a damn good time can’t wait to do it again next weekend.


Awkward-Grab6581

Unpopular opinion: Sainz gonna beat Lecler this year


Whycantiusethis

It's certainly not impossible. We'll see though, Leclerc is a more complete and better driver than Sainz in my opinion. If Sainz ends up ahead of Leclerc, it'll be because of stuff beyond either's control.


Bokser6

Agreed. Also Sainz doesn’t seem to have mental strength required for championship level. Leclerc with a broken wing was giving him a hard time. If it wasn’t for technical issues with Verstappen and Leclerc I find it hard to believe that Sainz wins yesterday. I hope I am wrong because it makes races more interesting…


Whycantiusethis

It'll be interesting to see if anything changes for Sainz mentally. I wonder if him *finally* winning a race "flips a switch" for him, and we see him up at the very front with Verstappen and Leclerc. Having both Ferraris and Red Bulls being able to fight for wins (plus Mercedes maybe actually closing the gap with the skid board TD for France) would make the back half of the season pretty nuts. 6 drivers all able to be in contention to win would be great.


tsupermax

Ratio


Awkward-Grab6581

Gettin sick when i hear thst ration thing, chill dude


hereticjedi

It’s one win. He drove fairly averagely in the 1st phase and then got a very lucky break with the SC. If Ferrari had pitted Charles under the SC as well I don’t think Sainz would have got past him. Sainz is a great driver but Charles is just on another level. Only way I see Sainz finishing ahead is if Ferrari keeps messing up Charles’s strategy and not Sainz.


Bokser6

Its almost as if he feels more comfortable driving from middle up then leading the race. As in easier to chase than be chased. Definitely seems pressure related.


fractionalhelium

There should be more than 1 medical car at the start of the race. The personnel had to rush to check three drivers at the same time. First, they went to Albon until he confirmed he was alright, then Russell, and then Zhou. They shouldn't be in the position to decide who should they go to check on first.


Raktoner

Do we know yet what Binotto was telling Leclerc? The finger wag made me think he was being disapproving which would be unfair with how he raced yesterday, but if it was like a "hey I know things didn't go our way but *wags finger* you need to keep your head up" then that's not so bad.


Radiant-Challenge873

It’s impossible to know, how do we know le clerc didn’t start an argument etc


Firefox72

Most likely to not cause trouble in the media interviews.


Fetch1965

Correct


Spirited_Worry_9608

I missed the race yesterday and just paid for F1 TV Access so I could watch the replay. It now says I have to pay for F1 TV Pro. Anyone know when the race will be accessible through F1 TV Access on their website?


StankeBanke

Go to r/motorsportreplays and download it with Libretorrent. Its not worth paying for F1 TV.


Oogly50

Eh, I like all the bonus content F1 TV provided. Jolyon Palmer's analaysis' are always pretty insightful, and being able to do the drivers can at any point in the race is also really fun when I remember to utilize it lol.


Spirited_Worry_9608

Thank you!


PizzaCatLover

Replays are available on Access after two days (but really, Pro is totally worth it, especially if you pay by year it's like $6 a month)


Spirited_Worry_9608

Thank you! Just read that on the small print also.


tnucsdrawkcab

Well this was my fav race this season, Carlos and mick with their firsts.


Jelly-Flopped

Do we think it's possible that Ricciardo could be replaced mid season? I will be very surprised if Mclaren keep him next year but is it more dire than that. Important to keep in mind that if Ocon had finished in the points at Silverstone then Alpine would have overtaken Mclaren or been very close to. Surely finishing 4th in the CC should be a must for Mclaren this season, which I don't see them conceivably doing with Ricciardo if his form hasn't improved by mid season break.


Bokser6

The irony is that he left RedBull (big mistake) because he didn’t want to be the second driver. And yet he ended up being second in every other team


BananerRammer

Daniel beat Hulkenberg and Ocon pretty handily in his two years at Renault. No way you can call him the second driver there.


DeGGamargo

I feel like I read this comment a bunch of times. Are you positing this thing under every Ricciardo hate comment? Haha


BananerRammer

Just the once for me, anyway. The criticism for the last year+ is deserved, but the people saying he was crap at Renault are nuts. When McLaren signed him he had literally just beaten both McLaren drivers in a year that McLaren had the 3rd fastest car. At the time, the move made sense for both parties. It's honestly a shame how poorly its worked out.


DeGGamargo

Yep, sad to see.


Bokser6

I stand corrected


Raktoner

Maybe late season with like a race or two to go?


Jelly-Flopped

What would be the point that late in the season, damage is done at that point no? May as well let him finish the season


Raktoner

I guess it would be a chance for a Formula 2 guy looking to make the jump get some live action at low risk? Like how a football or basketball team would start some backups after they're eliminated from the playoffs


FredWatanabe

I feel sorry for Ric, he could be done. I doubt even Williams would employ him.


keenjt

May I ask why it is you feel sorry for him?


Hamburgo

I’m not the person you asked but I feel sorry for DR... reason being the secondhand embarrassment of all the media saying he’s shit and also all the contract termination discussions playing out so publicly. Reminds me of Bottas, Russell and Merc last year playing out in the media and social media with GR posting hints all the time... poor Bottas getting hounded about whether he is safe at Merc again... And yeah so that’s why I personally feel bad for DR - knowing he would he so stressed fighting for his seat. That he wants to stay in F1 and would be leaving not on his own decision but forced out. Sad to see someone’s dream be snuffed out. Could he become WDC if given a shot in a better car? Probably not I feel his spirit has been dampened a bit and he’s no longer thinking about it, just driving to survive (lol) to not get shafted in the middle of the year. And also lastly to still see Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel all still driving around similar-ish ages with 0 threats of a mid year contract termination. Sorry for the long comments.


keenjt

Very good write up. What made me feel sad on his behalf was an interview I read a few weeks ago, an extract from it was him saying he no longer has "bad weeks" after a bad race result as it impacted on his personal relationships. It hit home because A) he's a real person struggling with professional performance issues resulting in (probably) early signs of depression or anxiety. B) the typical driver hunger is fading from him.


HogSniffer87

I would say no. It sounds like McLaren will ride with Danny until the end of 2023. Pato and Herta (Zac Browns two biggest targets) do not have enough license points at this time to drive in F1. Earlier this summer it sounded like Oscar to Williams was a done deal. I’m not sure who else could replace DR that would do any better. It is frustrating to watch DR have poor races every weekend. I agree he needs to bag some points to help McLaren secure 4th in the constructors.


Methuga

Has he just dropped off this year? I haven’t seen anything major, but there’s such a stark drop off from last year. Sucks, I really like the guy


HogSniffer87

IMO I think the car has fallen off a ton. There have been races where Lando struggles for pace as well. The key difference is that Lando has been able to extract the maximum out of the car more than Daniel.


keenjt

14 Dnf 6 18 13 12 13 8 11 13


Methuga

I know how he’s finished, I just don’t get why. He was fine, if a little worse than usual last year. This year, he may as well be in a Haas


HoovesCarveCraters

I don’t think so. The broadcast didn’t mention it but Ricciardo’s DRS broke so he had to pit to have it shut and then couldn’t use it the whole race. Not excusing how bad he’s been this season, but he had a reason this time around.


harridiculous

Floor damage as well from first start debris apparently…and the slow pits. They’re not helping him much.


rockblazer23

It’s just been a series of bad luck with him. Every week it’s something that has gone wrong with the car.


punchinglines

I think the new F1 Race Directors are learning that being "strict" on the rules is easier said than done. They've already basically created a precedent in this race on what you can get away with and they'll be called inconsistent if they penalise what Perez did in future. You can't escape the "Let them Race" philosophy...


According-Switch-708

Yeah,I thought that he was gonna get a penalty for that. He pushed Lewis clean off when both cars were alongside each other. Stewards need to be more consistent for sure.


Equivalent_Base_9104

Precedents don't matter if stewards are inconsistent. This week we're racing in Red Bull Ring where they were very strict last year, we'll see the direction they'll go


punchinglines

I think we'll definitely see more penalties for pushing drivers off track in the Red Bull Ring. Especially on that long right-hander.


TheMassINeverHad

Lewis will be so missed when he is gone even by the clowns who abuse him


the_real_nps

I'm definitely not gonna miss him.


FredWatanabe

I still hope he sticks around until 2024.


museproducer

I can see him going longer if he is enjoying it (like he seems to be doing more of this season). Lewis is matching George in performances, and it is unlikely that he will be gone by even 2026. Mercedes has juniors coming but they are still a long way off and even then, it will be unlikely that Mercedes will be open to bring them on their first season if they make it.


flightist

Been a nice 24 hour relief from the it was just the car chorus though.


simfoe

5.3m views on the Race Highlights in 18 hours


J0e_Strumm3r

hate to say it, but Daniel is done.


satmar

This race is not a good thing to point to. Apparently he had some floor damage and his DRS was broken, took a pit stop so they could force it closed then couldn’t use it later


keenjt

That's racing though, bad luck, good luck.. The only thing that matters is the result. He results this year are terrible. His comments in the media generally point to "we'll need to look at what went wrong but we didn't have the pace"


satmar

I 100% agree the year has been terrible but at the end of the day no weight will be placed on a race that the car was literally broken.. just like no one says Max sucked this weekend or at Hungary last year.. the car is broken so it’s understood that the result isn’t a fair representation of the drivers ability


kingfrank243

"Max sucked this weekend" how is that relevant to ricardo performance? Was the car broken during qualifying? Was the car broken in canda? Was the car broken in Spain? Ricardo finished in the points What twice this season vs lando? Yeah the mclaren is more suited for lando but come on Ricardo is very experienced driver you telling me he can't adapt to the car? How many excuses are we going to make for him. By monza if he can't get it together rip up his contract. I'm. Ricardo fan. By the way max car was broken he still managed to keep it in the points.


satmar

I think you only read half my comment.. to repeat.. Ricardo has been terrible this year… BUT this race is a bad example to point to as there’s an easy out for anyone arguing the opposite (the few left) lmao


kingfrank243

Yeah then you continue to say " the car was broken" OK the car was broken so that's when I said "? Was the car broken in the past races?


satmar

Because the car WAS broken.. that’s the explanation to why I think this race is not the one to point at lol.. and the follow up point about Max is a comparison to emphasize my point.. another driver who’s car was broken meaning we discount it when considering the result.. it doesn’t mean Ricardo is not bad or that max is not good.. but this race is not necessarily the guiding light to those facts..


kingfrank243

I understand what your saying 100%, what I'm trying to say is daniel was shit the entire season even if the car wasn't broken he would've sucked anyway, like I said the car wasn't broken in qualifying lando did phenomenal what was ricardo excuses again?


satmar

I need to stop feeding the trolls lol… I AGREE WITH YOU! DRIC IS BAD IN 2022. Idk how else to say it but somehow I think you assume I’m saying something different than this


Whycantiusethis

So who's going to replace him?


ZDiddle

nothing against daniel at all but give o'ward or herta a shot. just to shake things up (for my entertainment).


Whycantiusethis

They definitely seem like the most likely picks for McLaren right now. I think they're doing the young drivers tests this year too.


SouthFromGranada

Yeh, didn't believe it after the first few races but there doesn't even look like a spark of a resurgence. Some drivers don't get on with a rule change.


pvdp90

The irony in this is: last rule change he absolutely dominated the then reigning world champion Vettel. His career trajectory is wild


SouthFromGranada

Makes sense though, the greats can drive anything quickly while the very good are not as versatile.


pvdp90

Agreed. That’s why Alonso is a great. He’s driven all manner of cars and regs, always getting the most out of his shitbox


Fanof7

Very true, rip. F1 is cutthroat.


djzedcarter

I’ve been to about 6 British GPs now and this one was by far the best for action and atmosphere. I was at Luffield and the crowd went insane when Hamilton tried a few moves in front of us… great race by far the best of the season so far… So glad we witnessed Carlos’s first win too he fully deserves a better car/team as much as I love Ferrari they aren’t on their strategy/performance game at the moment.


sd_manu

I witnessed Charles first win in Spa 2019. xD Now another Ferrari first time winner this weekend and I am going to Spielberg next week. Nearly I would have seen a new Ferrari winner again. xD


bryanthebearded

Maybe missing comments here, but seems like sentiment is everyone feeling bad for Charles. However, he caused accident that forced Checo to pit in opening laps and ultimately cost Max the race due to debris on track. Didn’t Charles and Ferrari gain a big advantage (although they screwed up that advantage)? Why focus on last laps great racing, when opening laps racing were far more impactful to overall race.


Apprehensive_Sun9690

Lol, tell me that you are not able to drive without telling me that you are not able to drive. Perez went to his left while trying to overtake, without watching his left mirror.


bryanthebearded

The commentators disagree with you and squarely put blame on Charles, but what do they know, right?


Apprehensive_Sun9690

Ah yes, the voice of truth. The commentators. The only one.


GiorgioAntani

that was an overtake, like the one Perez was trying too. It is a race not a parade. Also RB gave back the favor later by cutting the chicane and pushing the red wide, opening the road for Sir H.


SteveThePurpleCat

Sir L. By being knighted his title is now Sir Lewis, not Sir Hamilton.


GiorgioAntani

sorry I feel bad. Like saying Captain Sparrow. I'll do ten pushups for this mistake


Jelly-Flopped

I don't think it's fair to attribute Max's damage to Leclerc, we don't know where that came from there were a lot of scraps this race (e.g. Alphatauris) that the debris could have originated from. Agree that he caused the collision between him and Perez and maybe a penalty was in order there.


leagueoflegendsdog

He didnt cause Max's issue. Horner confirmed the debris that caused it was from AT.


SouthFromGranada

Silverstone has to be the best circuit on the calendar for producing exciting races, I can't remember the last time we had a snoozefest for a British Grand Prix.


BlueCheetah66

Both 2020s. If it wasn't for Hamilton chasing Leclerc 2021 would've been a bit dead. 2017 was dry.


popoflabbins

Both those races were really bad aside from the exiting puncture festival. To me three laps doesn’t make a good race though.


SouthFromGranada

One of the 2020 races had Hamilton complete the final lap on three wheels, and last year had the Verstappen/Hamilton incident, I don't know how you could call that dull?


BlueCheetah66

Fair enough, I wouldn't class them as snoozefests, but for example, Hamiltons puncture does not make it and exciting race in hindsight


pvdp90

That was literally movie-like scripting on how to finish a race. 3 wheels on the wagon and your rival chasing you down like a mad dog, but you still limp across the line in 1st. We are never getting a final lap like this ever again. Boo you


Armani_Chode

Boo


Nav44

Classic track with multiple overtaking spots, perfect showcase of why Spa also needs to stay on the calendar, it must.


quite-a-big-dog

Unfortunately it seems like spa is gone for next year to be replaced by South Africa


SouthFromGranada

Circuit design died after 1975.


sd_manu

Yes. Only the same shit built all the time. Istanbul turn 8 built over and over again. In Austin for example. Malaysia turn 1, then built again in China. And so on.


No_Brakes_282

well people cant complain sainz has bad starts now cause both of leclercs starts were atrocious . Ferrari got to do something about that . It was bad in baku too and basicallty negates ferraris quali pace


highheat3117

*Ferrari Engineer:* Sorry Carlos we thought reverse off the line would be your best option.


MrPeanutbutter14

Unpopular Opinion- The only drivers on the grid who will ever win a WDC are those that have already done so, Carlos and George. Norris, Danny and Perez don’t have the mentality. Pierre and Ocon don’t have the talent. Charles doesn’t have the balls.


Jelly-Flopped

I respect your opinion here and agree with most of it. However, I don't think Carlos has the raw pace at the moment, you're right he's shown to have determination and put the team in their place when it comes to crappy calls but you can't win on that alone. I think Leclerc has the opposite, great pace but needs to become more defiant, arguably he shouldn't have to as it should be the strategists job to put him in the right places but it's Ferrari. I agree that Danny, Perez and Ocon are non contenders in their current cars or otherwise. I wouldn't discount Pierre or Norris yet but would certainly say they both need to work for it and get lucky with car design. I think Zhou is solidly in the too early to tell phase, lad's got some speed on him that he has consistently shown when his car isn't breaking, definitely still making rookie mistake that would need to be ironed out in coming years. I have no hope for TSU, MSC, STR, LAT, ALB or any of the other older drivers.


KJimmy03

Pierre has no chance after his RB meltdown. If you're taking about mentality he is one of the more frail ones.


Jelly-Flopped

I disagree, while his RB stint clearly didn't work he was also younger and much more inexperienced, he has developed a great deal in terms of attitude and racecraft and I believe that shouldn't stand in his way of a second chance, especially with a different team.


BlueCheetah66

Who invited Carlos into your opinion. If you had left it at George, I would not have too much problem because you are not entirely wrong. But Sainz genuinely just doesn't have the driving ability to challenge Verstappen who, if we are being honest, is going to be the benchmark for many years if you want to win a title. Problems with mentality and the factors that are holding back Leclerc can be easily be improved over time. But Sainz is in his 8th season and has not shown anything in those years to say he can be the best


MrPeanutbutter14

7 of those seasons were with a midfield car.


Le_Pistache

Sainz may have the mentality but he has to work on his pace. Pre-safety car he was getting bested by Verstappen and a slightly damaged Leclerc. Even Hamilton looked like he had an edge over him - especially given that Sainz had to fuel save as Lewis' tyres got into optimal temperature. He was bailed out by the safety car and benefited from Verstappen having damage and Leclerc being thrown to the lions strategy wise during the Safety Car. Many assumed it would take both Verstappen and Leclerc having a bad day for him to win and that's what happened. It will be interesting if this first win helps him progress. That seemed like a mental block that was troubling him. Leclerc should be questioning Ferrari's decisions more, though.


EJTS03

Can you explain the Charles part of your comment?


vihor

MS in his situation at Silverstone would head toward the box and say 'Put the softs on.'


cinyar

My guess would be we've already seen a couple of times that Carlos was able to say "no" to the team. Charles always seems to go with what the team wants him to do even if he disagrees.


No_Brakes_282

i respect your opinon but disagree


ludicrous_socks

What about GOATifi? Don't sleep on the meme maker :)


anonpetal

Such a good race, so happy to be there to watch it. But it’s super disappointing to see Ferrari not capitalise on verstappens misfortunes and take home a nice points haul for Charles. For max to come away with only 6 points less than charles is unreal! They really fucked up this weekend


According-Switch-708

Watch Peter Windosor's latest video in YouTube. Apparently, all is not well at Ferrari.


anonpetal

Thanks for the suggestion, going to give it a watch!


Fright13

> They’re really fucked up this weekend And almost every weekend. Just so heartbreaking.


ludicrous_socks

Traditions.


_Palamedes

Feel so bad for Ricciardo, even looking at last season now, it wasnt even that bad, he got 42% of the teams points - that figure is 21% now


BlueCheetah66

His decision to leave Renault will always confuse me. If he was leaving for Ferrari or Mercedes, I would understand, but he jumped ship so quickly for what was at the time, close to just a move sideways. I feel like Alpine are now actually building well and he jumped off the train at the wrong time


vihor

But now we have Alonso on the grid :)


freegary

The Mercedes engine smelt too good


Thebussinessman

He got paid big time in Renault


AngryRoomba

At the time everyone agreed it was a good move. Renault weren't going anywhere and McLaren was improving. This season both teams feel the opposite (despite Alpine's reliability issues).


BlueCheetah66

I wouldn't say Renault were going nowhere unless he had seen ongoings behind the scene that convinced him otherwise. Yes McLaren were more on the up than Renault, but it's not like they were far apart. Especially considering there would be a rule change soon, it was a big risk to just up and leave Renault, when he can have an understanding of their plans clearer than Mclarens


ZDiddle

dude, he left redbull for this. renault was a flyover team that never mattered, for example, alpine now. that dude quit red bull because he thought it would help his career. hopefully he fired any sort of career advisors he had, holy fucking bad decisions.


Methuga

I kinda get it. It was very clear Max was going to be the lead driver going forward. DR was confident he still had something left in the tank and wanted to prove it. It didn’t work out, but when you’re that competitive, it’s completely understandable making that jump.


sd_manu

He must have the same career advisors as Alonso had from 2008 onwards. xD


LordOfTheTennisDance

He is gone after this year. His performance at Silverstone was absolutely brutal.


marahute85

Danny said he had no grip but this point I’ve heard it so much I don’t know if I believe it


LordOfTheTennisDance

That excuse works if both drivers are experiencing the same issue(s), but unfortunately for him Lando is just killing it out there and at times punches above his weight.


Macktologist

Lando is more talented at this point, IMO. He’s a damn good driver.


ludicrous_socks

I know they won't struggle to fill the seat, but who would replace him? I've no idea what McLaren's junior program looks like! That said, there a queue of talent that would rip Zak's arm off for a FP2 session


LordOfTheTennisDance

Agreed, their pipeline is very limited and it's tough to see who might be a good candidate for that second seat. Personally, I would love to see Magnusson at McLaren because he was there once before (he wasn't ready at the time) so maybe he can go there for a year or two and then call it a career. They could also maybe reach out to Kvyat or Giovinazzi who was actually pretty good in his final year. But... they aren't all that big of a step up from Ricco. Or..... Vettel :D


Jelly-Flopped

Magnussen is an interesting choice I hadn't thought of. Not keen on the Giovinazzi, Kyvat or Hulkenburg routes, I think they've all come and gone. I think Seb is pretty much only still racing for MSC at this point, see him retiring in the not too distant future. I think safer option would be Gasley, he is in desperate need of a move away from RB into an equal or higher car. Maybe Albon but think he needs to prove himself a bit more. Depending on how they develop MSC or Zhou are on the table, but thus far not at all convinced with MSC but I'll give him another year or two.


Head_Emergency_1052

I'd say Zhou is more on the fence than on the table. Although, he almost ended up on someone's picnic table to be fair.


HogSniffer87

Gasly resigned through 2023 with Alpha Tauri. I bet Gasly is hoping Lewis retires after 23 and Gasly can get in a Mercedes seat. Although he will have to fight with Ocon for that seat.


Jelly-Flopped

Ah good point, hadn't thought of that. Who do you think has the better chance out of Ocon and Gasley? I think they're fairly evenly matched, Ocon has the history and relationship with Mercedes but Gasley has prior experience in a top team and consistently puts in solid results in the mid table.


HogSniffer87

I would lean towards Ocon given his close relationship with Toto. Gasly also is a Red Bull driver so Helmut Marko and Horner would have to approve of Red Bull letting go of Pierre (think Toto and Albon last year at Williams). I’d love to see Gasly in a top seat again.


ludicrous_socks

>Or..... Vettel That would be wonderful!


marahute85

There’s only 1 person in their junior program and he’s 14


_Palamedes

Im not sure, he's still beaten lando in several races, albeit they were both out the points in those, and im not sure mclaren wont want to lose someone with his popularity


LordOfTheTennisDance

He is popular because he was getting results. Now his funny/goofy attitude is out of step with his on-track performance and looks a bit sad.


Jelly-Flopped

I agree with this. Ricciardo used to be my favourite man on the track with his risky late breaking duels and funny relatable attitude off the track but with his drop in form it's much harder to see his jokey attitude and not just feel sorry for him. He can still bring a smile to my face but most of the time he just feels out of place now I feel like it's got to the point where you can see even he doesn't know what's wrong and has lost some of his mojo. I'd love to see him miraculously improve but I think his ship has sailed, you can't keep a seat with that form when there are so many others waiting in the wing.


Methuga

It’s small potatoes for him, but the good thing about his personality is it translates very well to TV, and I think bringing him onboard for pre or live race coverage could do F1 very well


Jelly-Flopped

Agreed I think he would be a great addition to any TV coverage or even as a guest like Nico and Button.


Lil_Moody247

my take away of the race: 1. Very very very very very glad that Zhou was okay and no one was seriously injured in that massive crash 2. Happy to see Carlos finally won his first race after getting his first pole. Felt bad for Charles falling victim to Ferrari's strategy AGAIN, my man couldn't catch a break from his own team 3. Glad to see Merc fighting for podium again, and Russell running to check on Zhou was also a great sportsmanship moment 4. That three way battle was EPIC, the commentator did an AMAZING job, I was on the edge of seat the entire time, fucking brilliant 5. Happy to see double points for Haas and especially enjoyed watching Mick duking it out with Max, this time risking with points at stake 6. Checo climbing all the way to second position from P16 was super impressive and seeing his dad kissing Hamilton's dad was just a cherry on top, what a great race 7. Unfortunately, this race also sealed the deal of Daniel for me, he didn't take any advantage from the restart or the safety car. The fact that he was behind Haas, Aston Martin and Williams was so mindboggling and disappointing to me.


ErrorCDIV

Danny had floor damage from debris and no DRS.


Lil_Moody247

Oh shit I didn’t know that


Nav44

Last year Daniel was bad at quali but would always put the moves on people during the race and his racecraft was very good. This year he's been bad in quali and during the race. This just reinforces to me that he's mentally shot, you don't just forget how to race, top level sport is such a mental game, feels bad man.


Icy-Operation4701

How come Gasly didn't have any damage? When they red flagged the session I didn't even realise he was involved.


XNightMysticX

I mean he only just clipped Russell. He wasn’t overly involved


That__Guy__Bob

Fuck man that 3 way battle, Crofty's commentary + the crowd. I'm still getting goosebumps rewatching it. It just hits different 🤌


flightist

People gripe about Crofty but “through goes Hamilton” is the sort of moment he’s there for.


tommaie97

I don’t believe Perez pushed Lewis off track, nor think any other penalties should be given. I for the life of me though cannot work out how Perez is not penalisied for an illegal overtake on Leclrec, and possibly an illegal move on Lewis as well (aka the Spa 2008 rule but worse). Perez 100% gains a position over Leclrec by going off the track and cutting the corner. In addition, if he slowed down properly for it he would not have been able to fight back with Lewis, he gains from keeping momentum that he then used to re-overtake. It’s complicated by what happens after, but imo Lewis is second if he doesn’t fight with Perez. Leclrec doesn’t get that position back. I don’t think any fault on Charles, but I think Perez should have been ordered to at least give the position back to Charles, and there is a good argument for Lewis as well.


XNightMysticX

I mean we shouldn’t be punishing hard racing. It was borderline but it was also incredibly entertaining


tommaie97

I agree - which is why the actual overtake (as in turning the corner per say), I have no issues with. However, Perez 100% overtook Lecrec off the track, that is not hard racing that is an illegal overtake. I’m also not fully sure Perez should of been in the position to “race Lewis hard”, but I think that is less significant then the Lecrec instead.


Squall-UK

I guess Masi could use this excuse for Abu Dhabi last year?


chrisnlnz

Why keep bringing this up, jezus.


ZGMF-X20A-Freedom

Because it was a controversial event. It'll will be talked about for ages


chrisnlnz

But it has nothing at all to do with this. Bringing it up here is just showing they're still salty from 8 months ago and want to derail the topic.