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RetiredPandaMurderer

Will be such a cool start tomorrow.....this grid could offer a lot of changes on lap 1


RetiredPandaMurderer

God, this season will be so fucking awesome...holy shit it's exciting.


DjangO1122

I hate street circuits. On how many tracks will this end in a completely fucked up car and red flag?


Reddevilslover69

Russell on his way to take that number one status like Leclerc in 2019


DVS_87

it wasn't a popular opinion but i said there was a chance Russell would at least match and potentially beat Lewis this year. Lewis is the same age as Schummy was when he started to fall off a cliff talent wise.


CoconutMallDriver

the slowest 5 were all powered by a Mercedes engine...


Reddevilslover69

Stroll with a good quali gap to Hulkenberg this time. Honestly if the AM car is driven to it's full potential it will be fighting for points imo


ImmediateSurprise64

Honestly why can't Button just not accept Lewis was beaten by Russell. He just claims the car is wrong while there are no indications for that


PolyGlotCoder

It’s the gap. That’s massive in the same car. So clearly the setup isn’t working for Lewis or his gone in a different direction that didn’t work etc. Plus it’s Button, he’s got experience that Lewis is pretty quick.


Reddevilslover69

Maybe Lewis didn't heat his tires well enough. It's not like these sorta gaps never happen . I mean even Bottas was much faster in Monaco last year even if he was beaten comfortably in quali over the season


MetropolisPt31

Exactly. The commentators said that Lewis was losing almost a second to Max on the straights. Unless Lewis is going easy on the gas, that's a car issue.


zyyast

WOW


sugarklay

Damn, HAM


DVS_87

\*chef kiss\* to see Lewis out of Q1 and Russell and Bottas trashing him LOL


K_S96

STROLLED


K_S96

WHAT


sugarklay

Ohno HAM


piercetopherftw

Holy smokes


marahute85

What did I say about Bottas having a mega qualy


TheDesertWalker

Best place to crash lol let's get going again quick


Houssem_Aouar

Who's winning


CMDRJohnCasey

Red flag odds?


baby-wall-e

Another poor performance from McLaren. It’s painful to watch, but it is what it is now.


Mymvenom001

Im expecting a leclerc double and a FL for RB, am I drunk if I bet on that?


DegenOptions

FL meaning?


_dummkopf_

fastest lap


sobespence

Mercedes HPP missing Andy Cowell yet? This would be like Newey leaving Red Bull.


lamewoodworker

Gordon in the RB padlock? That’s a dnf for someone tomorrow


ENLOfficial

Dish not flavorful? Dinner not finished? Dollops of nacho foie gras?


ArcticWolfE

Did not finish


ENLOfficial

Yes yes I know, just being dumb.


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lamewoodworker

Make sure you have unregistered cam going. If fraps is registered it wont allow you to do it. Also you wont have any audio except 009 Trance on a loop.


jason1992uk

Try obs


hojbjerfc

Big Damage limitation race for Ferrari


RacerXX7

Not a single MB-powered car in the top-10. I have a hard time believing the (MB) PU isn't the problem.


KingInTheNorthVI

The commitment from Merc to still be Sandbagging on the 2nd race weekend is impressive


MetropolisPt31

And so precise to end up 16th. Pure friggin' genius.


McKhichri

we have given every team 3 race headstart to actually make this sport competitive for us... #Based


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hojbjerfc

How? Because a driver drove dirty as fuck and got away with it?


J3319

Mind explaining? I’m new to the sport. What happened last year?


UghWhyDude

1. Max hit the wall while setting what was possibly the fastest time in Qualifying. 2. Lewis and Max made contact when Max was told to give his position back to Lewis after gaining it through cutting a corner while trying to overtake him.


J3319

Thsnks


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J3319

Also thanks


hojbjerfc

Max drove off the track to overtake Lewis after a red flag restart, another accident and red flag happened. Max was told to move back to p3 because he overtook two drivers off track. He then took p1 back in the next restart After a while of the two just following eachother lewis got close enough and overtook Max but then Max pushed him off track so Max was told again to give the position back but “do it strategically” so he tried to do it in a position where he could give it up and regain position, right away but that’s illegal. Lewis came up on Max driving slowly and tried to slow up so Max couldn’t get the DRS and take it right back, but then Max brake checked Lewis and drove ahead. Max then was told to give back position, and did but got it right back which is illegal so he was given a 5 second penalty. He then actually gave the position back the time after that. After the race Max was only given a 10 second penalty, which is conveniently just enough so that he kept p2 and they entered the final race tied in the championship


J3319

Thank you.


Baked-Strudel

Right? I would hate to get hit from behind like that


hojbjerfc

Shouldn’t have brake checked then


Baked-Strudel

It’s not like they were on a one way road mate, should’ve just passed him instead of following. ‘‘Twas a motor race.


hojbjerfc

If you were in a championship battle where if you crash you are out, and saw a driver known for crashing other drivers out slow down in front of you, you would be completely calm right


Baked-Strudel

Lol, was it Hamilton’s first race or something? Dudes a 7 time champ for a reason. In all honesty, I believe that incident was a culmination of actions by both drivers, just racing at the end of the day. I just commented back to you because you seemed quite sensitive and I could get a rile out of you.


hojbjerfc

I never said hamilton had 0 fault. But the facts are facts, hamilton was brake checked


YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo

Watch quali and if no one has reliability problems you know how the race will end.


FullMetalMako

There is literally no precedent for this wtf are you saying. There was 2 red flags last year.


Zaid7831

Ummmm.. Why are Sky showing a Russian GP preview?


Scary_fire24

Any pirate stream?


Ding_Cheese

30 seconds on Google bro....


The_SG1405

Check dms


McKhichri

I know this sport too well now, in one of the races Merc will run down their engine in 150% mode and ask FIA they need to make critical reliability changes to the PU which we all know are actually going to be performance changes. It is not over and our season starts at Imola. #Copium #Blessed


Tikipowers

Come on, as a red bull fan from the good ol days. Lets let Ferrari have a year or two. Then maybe McLaren a couple.


seejur

Is too much to ask having a season where Ferrari, McLaren and Williams race it out for the Championships like the good ol' days?


Xilthas

Think McLaren will be waiting a while.


SuperTechmarine

Just blackmail Red Bull into dropping the engine freeze altogether. PU upgrade waivers have to be unanimous. Don't let them make reliability upgrades until they agree to it.


bono5361

#Hopium I know that's all we have right now


UmichAgnos

they will need to get the "reliability upgrade" past red bull and Ferrari too, not just the FIA.


kingriz123

Smh Sky F1 showing Russian GP preview


9n0me

Relative noob here, but how should one consider FP lap times in the context of laps run? Does more a faster lap time with more laps run mean less because of fuel burn off?


justMemeslole

Not necessarily, because they could go out for one hot lap and we dont really know the fuel levels, I just watch for how the teams struggle and how hot laps between drivers compare, also notable if 1 engine manufacturer seems to be doing better


Cinicola

More laps run = worse tires. Fuel is unknown. But the low fuel qualifying sim run are typically late fp3


Aggressive-Grocery33

dont take fp laps into consideration at all. they are testing different set ups in different fuel configurations and we cant read much into it. wait till quali.


Houssem_Aouar

Too complicated for me, I just watch cars go vroom


CommandCTRL-Z

This is the way


burtvonnekut

Thats the right spirit! Glad we are two!


T4Gx

When is qualifying?


pm_me_ankle_pics

in one hour


YouLostTheGame

Hour and ten mins


arcolz

[https://www.f1calendar.com/](https://www.f1calendar.com/)


SubcooledBoiling

In a 70 mins


HelloSlowly

An hour and 12 minutes from my reply.


XWiseZ

Mercedes engine teams are screwed....


1201programalarm

I hear pundits left and right insisting that it's a coincidence and that it's the bouncing and other aero-related problems that's doing these teams in. Still, one hell of a coincidence...


McKhichri

Engine freeze is not there to punish engine makers, if McLaren and Aston Martin leave then surely Mercedes will ask FIA they have new partnership with Pepsi who will make the new engine from 2023. Hope people understand my point.


TessTickols

That's not how an engine freeze works. You can't make a new engine or buy an engine made after the freeze took effect. You can sign a contract to be supplied an engine that was developed when the freeze took effect.


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TessTickols

They might allow for some pretty broad interpretations of reliability, yes. Although Ferrari were allowed to struggle for quite a while, so I suspect they may wait until the end of the season. Would be quite enjoyable to watch Merc struggle to score points. Seeing as it's impacting a lot of teams, they might give a bit more leeway I guess. They quite obviously won't allow Merc to switch to a rebranded entirely new engine either way.


McKhichri

share me the source for this that you cannot have new independent PU after engine freeze


kingoflint282

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1s-engine-freeze-what-is-it-and-how-will-it-affect-teams/9282969/amp/


UmichAgnos

going by your logic, Ferrari could upgrade their engine by rebadging them "Fiat". the principal proponent of the engine freeze is red bull, any "reliability upgrades" need to get by the teams as well, not just the FIA.


TessTickols

Why would you need a source for that? It would defeat the whole purpose of a freeze. Ferrari would switch to Fiat engines, Merc would roll up with a Daimler engine. An engine freeze means no engine upgrades, which obviously means no new engine development.


McKhichri

are you allowed reliability changes during engine freeze? I am sure you do


TessTickols

Yes. There is quite a bit of difference between improving reliability of an old engine and developing an entirely new one though?


Jdahms

so the F2 sprint race was a complete mess lol


TessTickols

Worst shitshow I've seen in a while


pvdp90

Wasn’t able to watch, do elaborate


BNRG

There's a recap on the official F1 youtube channel.


TessTickols

Racing for 2 of the first 13 laps because of crashing and cars on track. Second safety car and the message is sent to teams to proceed through the pitlane. Not 20 seconds afterwards they send a new message: Pit lane closed. Prema finds this a bit confusing, so they ask the race director - he tells them to proceed through pit lane. They ask him to confirm, and he does. Hauger who leads the race is the only car to go into pit lane, he rejoins in 12th, still behind SC. He is then handed a 10 second stop and go penalty for entering closed pit lane and ends up dead last, 50 seconds off.


pvdp90

Woa what a fuck up


Lyranem

Feel so sad for Hauger and Prema. Fucked by FIA


NeurosciGuy15

Haven’t been able to watch anything, how’s McLaren look? Any progress on their end? Edit: thanks all


TessTickols

Looks less slow, but still slow


tgnd123

I think they ended p16 (Ric) and p19 (Nor) in fp3. I’m not sure on what tires they were tho


harristm11

Poop


Jdahms

They are slow, but not as slow as AM


Wostear

This isn't true at all. What were you watching...?


Jdahms

....what in the world are you watching they are P19 and P16 in FP3 and did their laps before AM


Wostear

I was referring to the "not as slow as AM' part.


Jdahms

Yeah AM is also looking slow as shit. the Mclaren looked to have better pace through most of the sessions than AM


Wostear

They are both way off the pace right now. I just disagree that you can say McLaren is faster than AM right now. Equally, not sure you could say AM are faster than McLaren either. We'll see this afternoon.


breadbutterone

Someone post the damn Otmar interview I don't give a shit about Yuki touching the wall clips


itsmedudechuck

What times is qualifying in GMT+2?


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7:00pm


itsmedudechuck

Thanks


kikiki_rra

In an hour and a half


Eggplantosaur

F1calendar.com


nerdstark28

What are the chances of Ferrari beating Red Bull in the race tomorrow ? Is redbull much quicker ?


hojbjerfc

Low. Red bull is much quicker


MaximumCache

RB might experience reliability issues again.


hojbjerfc

The only chance of something other than RB 1-2


h0sti1e17

That's a lot of faith in Perez.


flip217

Ehhh…we’ll see. Edit: We saw. 😉


RickSanchezC-226

Can we already conclude that the mercedes engine is the worst engine of the year?


LondonPilot

That engine earned a podium last week. It seems that it’s most likely a coincidence of the teams that are using it being slow, rather than the engine being slow. Another theory of mine, which I can’t substantiate, is that I’ve seen many rumours about Mercedes using a cooling system they’ve bought from a (space) rocket company. It’s possible, I think, that their engine is bad with conventional cooling, but perhaps works much better with this space-age cooling they’re using.


RickSanchezC-226

Mercedes only got that podium because of Red Bull's retirements, I don't think it's a coincidence. Let's see the results in the qualifier


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Reddit and jumping to conclusions with one data point, NAMID.


RickSanchezC-226

>Reddit and jumping to conclusions with one data point, NAMID. It is no coincidence that the last 5 are from teams with mercedes engines


dreadnough7

I really enjoy watching Horner and Brundle watching and commenting on an old race, BTW.


pol5xc

I'm curios in seeing what Alpine have got for this weekend. They've shown they can be pretty fast in the first two sectors. Let's see.


Mahery92

I didn't see what happened to Alonso's run; he seemed to be flying in the first 2 sectors, but then apparently had an underwhelming s3 Did he lift off or made a mistake? or is the car just slower in s3?


pol5xc

I don't know, Ocon did the same though.


burtvonnekut

I think its gonna be a really tight midfield with the two alpines , both Alpha Tauris and at least on each of the Alfa romeos and Haas. But it al depwnds on how much carnage there will be in the race.


dreadnough7

Anyone still in doubt Mercedes PU had become \*the\* problem?


YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo

Correlation doesn't mean causation is all there is to say for all the doomsday commenters about the Merc powered teams.


dreadnough7

When 7 out of 8 Merc PUs occupy the last 7 after taking the last 6 places in the previous race, yes, the common denominator started to look very likely the problem.


GoFrtherInLightness

Gasly going to be able to run in quali?


64gbBumFunCannon

Well, now practice is over, guess off to work I go. I doubt I'm gonna miss anything in quali.


nahnonameman

Ferrari 1-2. Don’t miss that.


DustyMartin04

It’s over? F1 site said it started at 1am here in Aus


GivenRageRS

its at 4


Shadowinthesky

Depends where you are. As an east coaster now living in the west, a 1 am qually session is delicious. 10.30 am AFL games on the other hand is a bit of a strange one


DustyMartin04

I meant practice. Said it started at 1


Risk_k

Bottas about to pull up with pole position


Sercavfer

For fantasy, any thoughts? RB - LEC(TD) - SAI - PER - BOT - MAG Or FER - LEC(TD) - VER - BOT - TSU - MAG Or FER - SAI(TD) - VER - OCO - BOT - MAG


Cinicola

Team 1


elifad18

The bottom one is literally mine so I'm gonna say that one


hojbjerfc

Swap Lec for Verstappen.


cheetahstr1ke

Cause money doesn’t exist


hojbjerfc

Verstappen is better value when he is a guaranteed grand slam here


lamewoodworker

This place is a shit show and i think elbows are gonna be thrown today. I’m putting my money on kmag winning today


Mediocre_Fortune

“My team doesn’t make mistakes”


hoxxxxx

it is so fucking weird seeing merc with issues. hard to get used to.


McKhichri

Let us make it clear, customer teams wont be allowed to change engine till 2026.


Icy-Operation4701

Source?


Pftoc

All your comments from here are so stupid that I don't even know what to say


seraph089

There's nothing stopping them other than contracts with their current manufacturer. In terms of rules, they could change supplier next season if they wanted to.


McKhichri

if that is how it is going to get played then mercedes will change it too and call it cocacola mercedes, new engine from a soda company.


seraph089

That would be a completely new engine, and not allowed with the freeze. But they could (but never would) decide to buy Ferrari engines next season instead of running their own. The engines themselves are frozen. Teams aren't locked into which ones they use, other than running the same in both cars and not changing mid-season.


Rashy17

Why wouldn't they be allowed?


dapotatohead371

Engines frozen till end of 25 season


McKhichri

because you dont want the actual engine makers to get punished, then everyone would want to be a customer team and jump ships whenever a new meta comes.


Rashy17

They pay for their engines, it's not like it's a gift to them.If you make a shit engine you pay the consequences and have no customer teams.


McKhichri

then merc will be allowed to make new engine as long as it is not actually a merc engine? Mercedes Tesla, you get my point? Engine freeze is not made to punish the engine makers.


Rashy17

You are not allowed to make a new engine


Euro_Twins

What? Lmao. If your product is bad your customers should have the right to go to the better manufacturer


McKhichri

then customers should make their own engine? why should the actual f1 team who makes the engine be punished? Even Mercedes will change their engine and not call it mercedes, you get me?


brennyrodgers

Can you elaborate please? Genuinely don’t understand what you mean sorry.


Euro_Twins

No. You're wrong, and now you're making strawman arguments.


woliva0

I think the fans should really boycott this race. Stream it illegally, pirate the replay, watch the YouTube highlights if you have to. I’m going to cancel my f1 tv subscription until next weekend.


mcridefanboy

You’ve been paying this whole time???


LIVDUY

Way ahead of you since 2015 pal


Olester14

😂😂😂😂😂😂


Castle_Of_Glass

Hahahaha funniest comment of the year so far.


Euro_Twins

I'll probably watch it tbh. There as so few things that aren't awful anymore these days, I just want to finally watch ferrari be competitive again. As shit as it is that this race is going down in Saudi still, I've already given them my money, they are still racing there, and I can't change the oil wars by not watching a car race. I respect your decision to pretend like canceling a subscription you already paid for, for a week is going to shake them to their core. But I'm still going to watch it, it is what it is. Msm only cares about russia right now anyway, they don't even know Saudi Arabia exists.


RedditsHardestMan

It won't leave a dent


immaletyafish

I'm sure there will be serious repercussions after everyone leave that shit hole and are safe and sound at home.


woliva0

I hope so! Racing in warzones is foolish.


LumberghFactor

You’re gonna cancel your monthly subscription for a week? I hope this is a joke.