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2023 Monaco Grand Prix - First Practice Classification

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Otter269

Watching Charles makes me nervous. Either pole or in the wall. No in between


mirage2101

So… regular Charles?


travisty1

Sometimes it’s pole or the gravel trap


kukaz00

That is Carlos “gravel trap” Sainz, Charles is more of a wall guy.


CeleritasLucis

Hey Sainz is the gravel guy


siva-pc

Sometimes it's pole and the wall


Kingtoke1

Or flames


ZachMich

I always felt that was more of a Sainz thing.


AlinesReinhard

Plan E


PopeShish

As a famous Italian poet once said, sometimes mai be good sometimes mai be sheet.


NegotiationExternal1

Leave him alone, his Leclerc genes are Leclerc-ing, in combination with Ferrari, Ferrari-ing he can only do so much with that kind of cosmic instability


Mordho

Waiting for the Gamma Ray burst


3dmontdant3s

Both together is an option too


Flonkerton66

Arthur showed the Leclerc way during qualy.


iqbalsn

his driving reminds me so much of Colin Mcrae. Absolutely balls to the wall, its either big win or crash


iamricardosousa

Curiously, that atittute of his of going all out and not knowing the limits, or maybe knowing but ignoring them so often is, in my opinion, what's holding him back on being a more consistent driver. He's hands down one of the fastest drivers on the grid at the moment, an amazing qualifier, but all that speed won't mean a thing if you don't finish the race. Once he get's it under control he'll be pretty hatd to beat.


darth_malmal

I like to think that it's his winning attitude.


SemIdeiaProNick

yup, he just doesnt know how to hold back, always on the edge of what the car can handle


HeHe_AKWARD_HeHe

Le win or bin!


ranting_madman

Ah. I say the same about Maldonado. He just races really hard.


Jack_Krauser

Maldonado's win/bin ratio was slightly... less flattering.


iForgotMyOldAcc

If he's trying to win and nothing else then that is actually a viable tactic, pole at all costs. But he's more than capable of nailing this track. Set pole without pushing as much as he could've last year, and when he did he was 4 tenths up by sector 2 before Perez did a little throttling.


OkamiLeek006

A little bit of Throttlefoolery


jakemch

Checo can have a little bit of throttle, as a treat


element515

I wish he finished that lap. He was set to have a massive gap to the rest of the field


CmMozzie

Ahh yes, The Ferrari winning strategy. Go all in on qualifying.


blerml

Well so far he's been on pole in Monaco 3x of the 5 qualifying sessions he's had there since F2. He didn't in 2018 with Sauber and 2019 when Ferrari Ferraried him in Quali. But also in general he puts it on pole way more than he crashes in Qualifying.


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blerml

I mean is it? The man has 8 proper street track poles clearly it's working. Which is combined with Lewis the highest number on the grid. Also like don't come at me with made up numbers. Drivers that push right up to the edge sometimes push too much also happend to your boy Max more than once. also he has 3 less pole positions than Max. So I don't think his qualifying really is an issue


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CmMozzie

Whataboutism at its finest. How long has Leclerc been in F1 again?


DeepDishTurbo

Not as long as Max was when he dumped it in the wall in the biggest qualifying of his life.


blerml

technically one less. This is charles 6th season and 2021 was Max 7th


CmMozzie

Technically, Leclerc also has F2 experience aswell. So they're basically even and yet the Ferrari boy keeps crashing...


blerml

good to know that F2 cars in 2017 were F1 cars! learnt something new today!


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Hack874

That dude just blindly and rabidly defends Leclerc in every thread it seems. Don’t waste your time


CmMozzie

Yet Leclerc will crash in nearly 25% of the qualifying sessions this year.


blerml

will he really? great to know that you can both see the future and extrapolate imaginary numbers!


CmMozzie

Do the math on how many he's crashed in so far, add in a shortened season. I highly suspect he'll beat those numbers.


blerml

we are currently when looking at actual qualifying sessions at 1 out of 5 which guess what is not 25%! why does him being better than Max at street tracks in qualifying bother you so much? It doesn't even bother Max himself that much.


DeepDishTurbo

Maybe he should ask Max if they can get the FIA to break the rules for him again.


LinkRazr

Charles “Literally Ricky Bobby”Leclerc


LuNiK7505

The scandal if Carlos puts in on pole while Charles crashes


leedler

That kind of scenario has happened so many times recently that it wouldn’t even be a scandal anymore lmao


berlin_draw_enjoyer

Are you sure it’s “many times”?


Mesoscale92

Why not both? *2021 intensifies*


gipitoo

Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit


Y-elloo

I would term that feeling as “thrilling”


dl064

He was interesting last race weekend that he knows that his difference to Sainz is that he's willing to go that extra 0.1% in qualifying. Interesting insight into himself.


Lia_Ellison

Since it's Monoco, could be both pole and in the wall


Ikeeel

So you know Pole in the wall


ferkk

[The classic.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJHUbtR0yI8)


broman1228

To be fair you have to do that at this race …


KCKnights816

FP1 is pretty meaningless, but the Merc upgrades at least look stable and a step forward instead of backward. I'm sure Russell will be using a Lewis' setup in FP2


AmZiMumZiMumPingPing

Did not watch fp1...they used different setups?


RX0Invincible

It's what people are speculating since a gap that big is pretty surprising


maccartney

the complete difference between their feedback confirms that. Lewis was reporting about the rear overheating, while George was reporting that he couldn't get temps into his tires and the rear was sliding around


ceMmnow

I don't know why a team would ever go into FP1 with two similar setups anyway. First practice session, two cars, might as well try two totally different things to at least rule out one setup path


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Andrew225

Na, would. Ie; A team /should/ run two different setups in FP1. It's the least indicative session, and you can try out some larger variances and ten dial in with fp2 and 3


eeeponthemove

I don't know why a team *would* go into a practice session *with two cars* *using the same setup*


KCKnights816

Speculating, but it's almost a certainty with the disparity in times and the fact that it's a new B-spec car.


Village_People_Cop

The thing with FP is you can never know what setup somebody is using. Could be that the Mercs are running quali amounts of fuel and their engine at full power while Max is driving with a full tank of gas and his engine toned down. The only real way to know if the upgrades have had any effect is quali, there everybody runs on the same stuff. And even then Monaco is not a track we can use as gospel if the upgrades have worked well. The only true way to tell is at a real track because the top speed at Monaco is 200 km/h while other tracks hit 300 easily. You'll never know, maybe the Merc looks like a lowrider jumping up and down once it hits a certain speed.


AggrOHMYGOD

The most critical bit imo is that Max was very not happy with his car, I think they worked on it twice during fp1 with him asking to box because hes concerned he’ll crash Redbull are of course masters of setup, and we have another day to go, but this is really seeming like the best chance for an Alonso or leclerc monaco win


J03llV2

Monaco in itself is pretty meaningless for car performance upgrades


KCKnights816

Yes and no. The track demands car control and grip in low speed corners. You can't do well in Monaco if you aren't confident in the car beneath you.


xzElmozx

Car confidence and testing upgrades are a little different though. Merc wants to see how these upgrades behave on a long flat out straight more than anything, since that’s where most of your passing is gonna occur. If these upgrades cause the car to porpoise a ton at 300km/h, they’ll have to scrap them. Problem is, you can’t get to 300km/h, and while downforce is obviously important for low speed corners, it doesn’t test it out nearly as much as a straight does. Merc/Lewis themselves said they were upset they didn’t get to test the upgrades at Imola, as it has everything you need, a long straight, fast sweeping corners, and slow hard brake corners. Monaco has like 1.5/3 of those, obviously tons of slow corners but only one or two corners that can be considered (relatively) fast, and two straights that you can’t even get to 8th gear on. In terms of testing upgrade, Monaco is easily the worst track on the calendar.


Yung_Chloroform

The track certainly won't say much about the new aero but the new front suspension is a different matter altogether. That alone probably changes a lot about how the car feels, especially around a technical track like Monaco where mechanical grip is more of a priority.


hopez11

I'm so starved for any sort of success, I'll even take a FP P1


RyeBread2528

Despite it being f1, Sainz at least looks really comfortable as he just kept dropping lower times. A good sign if he can continue progressing.


Cowardly_Squrrel

i have a dream we can do silverstone again in monaco 🇲🇨


Andrew225

It's crazy watching Sainz and LeClerc. Typically such similar times, but Sainz is smooth as butter whereas I wince every time LeClerc turns, just anticipating the crash


Scary-Ad2528

Same... hoping for 3 consecutive Monaco podiums 🙏🏻


X3NOC1DE

That's it, I've seen enough, Mercedes are winning it all for the next 10+ seasons.


LosTerminators

Christian Horner if that happens "At least a black Red Bull is winning"


NoooUGH

He'd probably go out of the way to find/make some black redbull cans.


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SassanZZ

Isnt it gold and blue like the original thai recipe?


eeeponthemove

RedBull *Zero* I think he is meaning the "Red Bull *Zero calories* Original can is blue and silver Red bull *Sugar Free*, is like Cyan and silver


sombrerocabbage

They will have Albon in the simulator as well asking if it feels the same.


GShepStrongman

You can’t call Lewis “a black Red Bull”


wizards_of_the_cost

Getting very Piquet in here today.


noideawhatoput2

Me after every FP1 the past year


Kingslayer1526

Miami where Merc 1-2 happened 😭😭


bono5361

When will the Mercedes domination end?


zacharymc1991

They gave you a year off, that should be enough. Now back to Merc 1/2. Fuck it they dropping Russell and getting Bottas back just so we can have Ham/Bot/Ver back.


NetGroundbreaking708

those were the days :)


InfinityEternity17

The days of boredom maybe (yeah, this season isn't any better, I know)


Saandrig

Time for the semi-regular post-FP1 Mercedes hype train.


LemmiwinksRex

The hype train, now with sidepods.


Dexterus

Funny part is you can barely even notice these sidepods.


Joseki100

Stroll casually 1s behind Alonso


zaviex

Fp1. Not even the biggest gap between teammates but hard to know why in any case


dl064

Fp1 in particular has always been a bit meaningless in Monaco because noone is at 100% at this point. Or maybe some are, but anyway.


poopellar

That's not his usual delta, he will probably get closer before Quali.


CodeRoyal

Imitating Russell maybe


karmakillerbr

It's just fp1 tho


Madbanana224

Did Lewis set his time on softer tyres? Is that representative at all?


ISEALDS

It was on Mediums. He set the lap long ago and only Nando and Sainz managed to beat it after. Remember, it's just FP1 and people are still getting their setups ready + no clue about the fuel loads.


duvaone

It’s Monaco why even prepare for heavy fuel load? Just qualify and put enough to finish the race.


LordKnt

Because the car still has to be drivable during the race? How do you think F1 works lmao you can't just say "ok I'll turn this button on for quali and then it will be good"


duvaone

Again it’s Monaco. You can win with a broken engine. Who cares once you get pole.


Taniwha_NZ

Well, to be fair, that's the routine Mercedes used for like 3 seasons in a row. Remember their magic qualifying engine mode? Got banned a couple seasons back to try and bring them back to the pack.


Madbanana224

Yeah I'm guessing Merc have ran light on fuel then Excited for qualifying, hope I'm wrong


x___3

it's fp, nothing is representative


Blakbyrd8

This should be pinned on every practice thread


dl064

*Particularly* here


zaviex

Everyone on mediums here. Lewis set his time a bit earlier


Typhoongrey

Mediums


Rei_S_

No one used soft tires.


BocephusJr88

Whether it’s representative at all, I can’t say. I do know the track gets better and better every lap that’s ran on it. Lewis set his time, and immediately following that Max and Fernando went out on new mediums and were two tenths slower. Fernando ran a couple more laps afterwards and got quicker. Lewis it seems came into the pits at the red flag and put fuel in because his times slowed from 1:14’s to consistent 1:16’s.


trooperr310

That Aston deserves a Norris not Stroll


nukleabomb

I yearn for a norris Alonso pairing


D3ATHfromAB0V3x

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lando_Norris#24_Hours_of_Daytona_results It was awesome until they had a mechanical failure.


nukleabomb

Mannn


shartshooter

Nando Lando!


booze_nerd

Nah, Lando needs to stick it out until after the wind tunnel comes online.


Jiquero

I'd hate to think that the best move for the driver I like the most would be to leave the team I like the most ... so I'll also say that McLaren will be unbeatable after the facility upgrade.


RotorMonkey89

How long til their new facilities are done?


xzElmozx

They’re done now, just getting them up and running. Last I saw they were targeting June or July to start running them. Won’t see the payoff/results until next season though


Least-March7906

Mr Norris is not quite rich enough for that …


Nbuuifx14

Actually he is


Least-March7906

Rich enough to buy out Mr Stroll and kick out Lance? lol


Nbuuifx14

501st richest man in the country. It’d be difficult but with a group of other investors it’s possible.


xzElmozx

Yea you’re not wrong, with Norris’ net worth of ~$20-30 million he just needs an investor worth ~$3.7 billion to match Lawrence’s net worth of $3.7 billion Fact of the matter is no, it’s not possible. You ranked Lando’s net worth in the country, Lawrence’s net worth is “in the world” ranking tier


Least-March7906

lol. Dude, he is not rich enough


Savage9645

We are infinitely closer to Norris in wealth than he is to the Strolls


RBR927

Ferlando is the pairing we need.


Technical_Potato2021

Ah yes, top 4 of Spanish speakers: Carlos, Nando, Luis and Sergio


dtorb

Luis Hamiltón


tkmj75

Time for the EL Plan for Sainz. Hopefully, not be the L Plan by Sunday.


ryokevry

Charles know that Ferrari will only fuck up pole sitter so have taken notes 👀


Paracel_Storm

At work so I wasn't able to watch but from what I've read Max didn't exactly have a nice session.. Was it setup related or something else? Edit: Thanks y'all!


Ecomystic

He's having issues with the rear of his car bottoming out, went into the pits twice for setup changes but was told he had to live with it until fp2


mouthbreather850

Max was on the radio complaining about the car. His engineer told him he would have to probably have to live with it for the session


awwesjeng

omg I read for the season


TechnEconomics

Hopium


klintondc

He was having issues with the car bottoming out and touching the road a bit too much. Also some clutch related issues early in the session. The team wasn't too concerned though, just seemed like routine setup adjustments.


snikaz

It seemd like his setup, but RB said that they "cant fix it this session". Idk if that is because it requires to much change or if its something beside the setup..


miguelnog1

Mostly setup related that could not be solved during session, should be better later today.


Callejon007

Carlos loves Monaco


Elpibe_78

Nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition


Rei_S_

FOM bringing brand new camera angles to Monaco, which is nice, but somehow managed to miss every time someone set a new fastest lap.


LuNiK7505

That was a nice fp1 from Carlos


HeHe_AKWARD_HeHe

Did Carlos go on softs?


itsArtruckus

Hards, I think


Freeze014

Ferrari Hype train! all aboard!


JefinLuke

Alonso or Charles For Win


slimejumper

Albon just supreme.


DinosaurDriver

… until he binned it


Aratho

I knows it's super early and meaningless FP1 but seeing Red Bull somewhat struggling is so refreshing. All to play for tomorrow. Should be close between the top 4 teams, at least here if nowhere else for the rest of the year.


NewButNotSoNew

Might just be me, but I want Red Bull to fight. And in Monaco well... So seeing them struggle barely cheers me up because I don't expect a good race anyway.


Aman4029

Hopium resumed Copium pending initiation


_gadgetFreak

Missed the FP1, Sainz looking good or just FP1 things ?


Ecomystic

Shouldn't take anything from fp1, teams are still finding the right setups, George, lando and max were having issues for example


thelizahhhdking

But yes he was looking good Sexy, even


_gadgetFreak

Ferrari got the best looking pair.


Systemic_Chaos

Stupid, sexy Sainz


SnaIKz

FOM replacing the local broadcast is the real P1 🙏🏻


M_Ptwopointoh

Why is George hanging out at the kids table?


Oukaria

Lando in the points ! It’s fp1… my copium….


Disastrous_Animal_34

Logan and Oscar have both raced Monaco before right? Hoping they both a good weekend.


Pure-Permit-9887

What happened to Max?


Aoifeblack

Setup issues


JKBFree

Car kept bottoming out, yet still had him out there.


thisisdeyear

Leclerc again took it too aggressively. I don't see this ending well.


Ramux05

Isn’t that what practice is for though?


Finance_Minimum

To a degree. You don’t wanna wreck your car


Rei_S_

Good thing he didn't then.


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Rei_S_

You figured it all out after one session? Teams should hire you.


elastico

Did Nico have car problems? 17 laps seems inauspicious.


CutterJr

He scraped the wall, got his tyre blown and some minor damage which needed to be fixed.


Honourstly

Hulk 💀