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Watching Charles makes me nervous. Either pole or in the wall. No in between
So… regular Charles?
Sometimes it’s pole or the gravel trap
That is Carlos “gravel trap” Sainz, Charles is more of a wall guy.
Hey Sainz is the gravel guy
Sometimes it's pole and the wall
Or flames
I always felt that was more of a Sainz thing.
Plan E
As a famous Italian poet once said, sometimes mai be good sometimes mai be sheet.
Leave him alone, his Leclerc genes are Leclerc-ing, in combination with Ferrari, Ferrari-ing he can only do so much with that kind of cosmic instability
Waiting for the Gamma Ray burst
Both together is an option too
Arthur showed the Leclerc way during qualy.
his driving reminds me so much of Colin Mcrae. Absolutely balls to the wall, its either big win or crash
Curiously, that atittute of his of going all out and not knowing the limits, or maybe knowing but ignoring them so often is, in my opinion, what's holding him back on being a more consistent driver. He's hands down one of the fastest drivers on the grid at the moment, an amazing qualifier, but all that speed won't mean a thing if you don't finish the race. Once he get's it under control he'll be pretty hatd to beat.
I like to think that it's his winning attitude.
yup, he just doesnt know how to hold back, always on the edge of what the car can handle
Le win or bin!
Ah. I say the same about Maldonado. He just races really hard.
Maldonado's win/bin ratio was slightly... less flattering.
If he's trying to win and nothing else then that is actually a viable tactic, pole at all costs. But he's more than capable of nailing this track. Set pole without pushing as much as he could've last year, and when he did he was 4 tenths up by sector 2 before Perez did a little throttling.
A little bit of Throttlefoolery
Checo can have a little bit of throttle, as a treat
I wish he finished that lap. He was set to have a massive gap to the rest of the field
Ahh yes, The Ferrari winning strategy. Go all in on qualifying.
Well so far he's been on pole in Monaco 3x of the 5 qualifying sessions he's had there since F2. He didn't in 2018 with Sauber and 2019 when Ferrari Ferraried him in Quali. But also in general he puts it on pole way more than he crashes in Qualifying.
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I mean is it? The man has 8 proper street track poles clearly it's working. Which is combined with Lewis the highest number on the grid. Also like don't come at me with made up numbers. Drivers that push right up to the edge sometimes push too much also happend to your boy Max more than once. also he has 3 less pole positions than Max. So I don't think his qualifying really is an issue
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Whataboutism at its finest. How long has Leclerc been in F1 again?
Not as long as Max was when he dumped it in the wall in the biggest qualifying of his life.
technically one less. This is charles 6th season and 2021 was Max 7th
Technically, Leclerc also has F2 experience aswell. So they're basically even and yet the Ferrari boy keeps crashing...
good to know that F2 cars in 2017 were F1 cars! learnt something new today!
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That dude just blindly and rabidly defends Leclerc in every thread it seems. Don’t waste your time
Yet Leclerc will crash in nearly 25% of the qualifying sessions this year.
will he really? great to know that you can both see the future and extrapolate imaginary numbers!
Do the math on how many he's crashed in so far, add in a shortened season. I highly suspect he'll beat those numbers.
we are currently when looking at actual qualifying sessions at 1 out of 5 which guess what is not 25%! why does him being better than Max at street tracks in qualifying bother you so much? It doesn't even bother Max himself that much.
Maybe he should ask Max if they can get the FIA to break the rules for him again.
Charles “Literally Ricky Bobby”Leclerc
The scandal if Carlos puts in on pole while Charles crashes
That kind of scenario has happened so many times recently that it wouldn’t even be a scandal anymore lmao
Are you sure it’s “many times”?
Why not both? *2021 intensifies*
Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit
I would term that feeling as “thrilling”
He was interesting last race weekend that he knows that his difference to Sainz is that he's willing to go that extra 0.1% in qualifying. Interesting insight into himself.
Since it's Monoco, could be both pole and in the wall
So you know Pole in the wall
[The classic.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJHUbtR0yI8)
To be fair you have to do that at this race …
FP1 is pretty meaningless, but the Merc upgrades at least look stable and a step forward instead of backward. I'm sure Russell will be using a Lewis' setup in FP2
Did not watch fp1...they used different setups?
It's what people are speculating since a gap that big is pretty surprising
the complete difference between their feedback confirms that. Lewis was reporting about the rear overheating, while George was reporting that he couldn't get temps into his tires and the rear was sliding around
I don't know why a team would ever go into FP1 with two similar setups anyway. First practice session, two cars, might as well try two totally different things to at least rule out one setup path
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Na, would. Ie; A team /should/ run two different setups in FP1. It's the least indicative session, and you can try out some larger variances and ten dial in with fp2 and 3
I don't know why a team *would* go into a practice session *with two cars* *using the same setup*
Speculating, but it's almost a certainty with the disparity in times and the fact that it's a new B-spec car.
The thing with FP is you can never know what setup somebody is using. Could be that the Mercs are running quali amounts of fuel and their engine at full power while Max is driving with a full tank of gas and his engine toned down. The only real way to know if the upgrades have had any effect is quali, there everybody runs on the same stuff. And even then Monaco is not a track we can use as gospel if the upgrades have worked well. The only true way to tell is at a real track because the top speed at Monaco is 200 km/h while other tracks hit 300 easily. You'll never know, maybe the Merc looks like a lowrider jumping up and down once it hits a certain speed.
The most critical bit imo is that Max was very not happy with his car, I think they worked on it twice during fp1 with him asking to box because hes concerned he’ll crash Redbull are of course masters of setup, and we have another day to go, but this is really seeming like the best chance for an Alonso or leclerc monaco win
Monaco in itself is pretty meaningless for car performance upgrades
Yes and no. The track demands car control and grip in low speed corners. You can't do well in Monaco if you aren't confident in the car beneath you.
Car confidence and testing upgrades are a little different though. Merc wants to see how these upgrades behave on a long flat out straight more than anything, since that’s where most of your passing is gonna occur. If these upgrades cause the car to porpoise a ton at 300km/h, they’ll have to scrap them. Problem is, you can’t get to 300km/h, and while downforce is obviously important for low speed corners, it doesn’t test it out nearly as much as a straight does. Merc/Lewis themselves said they were upset they didn’t get to test the upgrades at Imola, as it has everything you need, a long straight, fast sweeping corners, and slow hard brake corners. Monaco has like 1.5/3 of those, obviously tons of slow corners but only one or two corners that can be considered (relatively) fast, and two straights that you can’t even get to 8th gear on. In terms of testing upgrade, Monaco is easily the worst track on the calendar.
The track certainly won't say much about the new aero but the new front suspension is a different matter altogether. That alone probably changes a lot about how the car feels, especially around a technical track like Monaco where mechanical grip is more of a priority.
I'm so starved for any sort of success, I'll even take a FP P1
Despite it being f1, Sainz at least looks really comfortable as he just kept dropping lower times. A good sign if he can continue progressing.
i have a dream we can do silverstone again in monaco 🇲🇨
It's crazy watching Sainz and LeClerc. Typically such similar times, but Sainz is smooth as butter whereas I wince every time LeClerc turns, just anticipating the crash
Same... hoping for 3 consecutive Monaco podiums 🙏🏻
That's it, I've seen enough, Mercedes are winning it all for the next 10+ seasons.
Christian Horner if that happens "At least a black Red Bull is winning"
He'd probably go out of the way to find/make some black redbull cans.
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Isnt it gold and blue like the original thai recipe?
RedBull *Zero* I think he is meaning the "Red Bull *Zero calories* Original can is blue and silver Red bull *Sugar Free*, is like Cyan and silver
They will have Albon in the simulator as well asking if it feels the same.
You can’t call Lewis “a black Red Bull”
Getting very Piquet in here today.
Me after every FP1 the past year
Miami where Merc 1-2 happened 😭😭
When will the Mercedes domination end?
They gave you a year off, that should be enough. Now back to Merc 1/2. Fuck it they dropping Russell and getting Bottas back just so we can have Ham/Bot/Ver back.
those were the days :)
The days of boredom maybe (yeah, this season isn't any better, I know)
Time for the semi-regular post-FP1 Mercedes hype train.
The hype train, now with sidepods.
Funny part is you can barely even notice these sidepods.
Stroll casually 1s behind Alonso
Fp1. Not even the biggest gap between teammates but hard to know why in any case
Fp1 in particular has always been a bit meaningless in Monaco because noone is at 100% at this point. Or maybe some are, but anyway.
That's not his usual delta, he will probably get closer before Quali.
Imitating Russell maybe
It's just fp1 tho
Did Lewis set his time on softer tyres? Is that representative at all?
It was on Mediums. He set the lap long ago and only Nando and Sainz managed to beat it after. Remember, it's just FP1 and people are still getting their setups ready + no clue about the fuel loads.
It’s Monaco why even prepare for heavy fuel load? Just qualify and put enough to finish the race.
Because the car still has to be drivable during the race? How do you think F1 works lmao you can't just say "ok I'll turn this button on for quali and then it will be good"
Again it’s Monaco. You can win with a broken engine. Who cares once you get pole.
Well, to be fair, that's the routine Mercedes used for like 3 seasons in a row. Remember their magic qualifying engine mode? Got banned a couple seasons back to try and bring them back to the pack.
Yeah I'm guessing Merc have ran light on fuel then Excited for qualifying, hope I'm wrong
it's fp, nothing is representative
This should be pinned on every practice thread
*Particularly* here
Everyone on mediums here. Lewis set his time a bit earlier
Mediums
No one used soft tires.
Whether it’s representative at all, I can’t say. I do know the track gets better and better every lap that’s ran on it. Lewis set his time, and immediately following that Max and Fernando went out on new mediums and were two tenths slower. Fernando ran a couple more laps afterwards and got quicker. Lewis it seems came into the pits at the red flag and put fuel in because his times slowed from 1:14’s to consistent 1:16’s.
That Aston deserves a Norris not Stroll
I yearn for a norris Alonso pairing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lando_Norris#24_Hours_of_Daytona_results It was awesome until they had a mechanical failure.
Mannn
Nando Lando!
Nah, Lando needs to stick it out until after the wind tunnel comes online.
I'd hate to think that the best move for the driver I like the most would be to leave the team I like the most ... so I'll also say that McLaren will be unbeatable after the facility upgrade.
How long til their new facilities are done?
They’re done now, just getting them up and running. Last I saw they were targeting June or July to start running them. Won’t see the payoff/results until next season though
Mr Norris is not quite rich enough for that …
Actually he is
Rich enough to buy out Mr Stroll and kick out Lance? lol
501st richest man in the country. It’d be difficult but with a group of other investors it’s possible.
Yea you’re not wrong, with Norris’ net worth of ~$20-30 million he just needs an investor worth ~$3.7 billion to match Lawrence’s net worth of $3.7 billion Fact of the matter is no, it’s not possible. You ranked Lando’s net worth in the country, Lawrence’s net worth is “in the world” ranking tier
lol. Dude, he is not rich enough
We are infinitely closer to Norris in wealth than he is to the Strolls
Ferlando is the pairing we need.
Ah yes, top 4 of Spanish speakers: Carlos, Nando, Luis and Sergio
Luis Hamiltón
Time for the EL Plan for Sainz. Hopefully, not be the L Plan by Sunday.
Charles know that Ferrari will only fuck up pole sitter so have taken notes 👀
At work so I wasn't able to watch but from what I've read Max didn't exactly have a nice session.. Was it setup related or something else? Edit: Thanks y'all!
He's having issues with the rear of his car bottoming out, went into the pits twice for setup changes but was told he had to live with it until fp2
Max was on the radio complaining about the car. His engineer told him he would have to probably have to live with it for the session
omg I read for the season
Hopium
He was having issues with the car bottoming out and touching the road a bit too much. Also some clutch related issues early in the session. The team wasn't too concerned though, just seemed like routine setup adjustments.
It seemd like his setup, but RB said that they "cant fix it this session". Idk if that is because it requires to much change or if its something beside the setup..
Mostly setup related that could not be solved during session, should be better later today.
Carlos loves Monaco
Nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition
FOM bringing brand new camera angles to Monaco, which is nice, but somehow managed to miss every time someone set a new fastest lap.
That was a nice fp1 from Carlos
Did Carlos go on softs?
Hards, I think
Ferrari Hype train! all aboard!
Alonso or Charles For Win
Albon just supreme.
… until he binned it
I knows it's super early and meaningless FP1 but seeing Red Bull somewhat struggling is so refreshing. All to play for tomorrow. Should be close between the top 4 teams, at least here if nowhere else for the rest of the year.
Might just be me, but I want Red Bull to fight. And in Monaco well... So seeing them struggle barely cheers me up because I don't expect a good race anyway.
Hopium resumed Copium pending initiation
Missed the FP1, Sainz looking good or just FP1 things ?
Shouldn't take anything from fp1, teams are still finding the right setups, George, lando and max were having issues for example
But yes he was looking good Sexy, even
Ferrari got the best looking pair.
Stupid, sexy Sainz
FOM replacing the local broadcast is the real P1 🙏🏻
Why is George hanging out at the kids table?
Lando in the points ! It’s fp1… my copium….
Logan and Oscar have both raced Monaco before right? Hoping they both a good weekend.
What happened to Max?
Setup issues
Car kept bottoming out, yet still had him out there.
Leclerc again took it too aggressively. I don't see this ending well.
Isn’t that what practice is for though?
To a degree. You don’t wanna wreck your car
Good thing he didn't then.
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You figured it all out after one session? Teams should hire you.
Did Nico have car problems? 17 laps seems inauspicious.
He scraped the wall, got his tyre blown and some minor damage which needed to be fixed.
Hulk 💀