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OpportunityNearby138

Neymar just got injured 👀👀👀


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

https://twitter.com/geglobo/status/1595880110044975109/photo/1 damn....


scrambledeggsss

Now I don't wish injury on anyone, but if he's injured already, it better be for at least 4 months.


CHLSI

Mbappe alone would be still enough to hurt Bayern. He is the core of the goals


DevilsOfLoudun

Neymar has been far better this season


CHLSI

mbappe scored against big teams, real, bayern, city past 2 seasons. neymar didn't.


scrambledeggsss

Yeah but every bit helps.


Quaestionaius

Barely a week in and possibly have the goal of the tournament


jsnamaok

Holy shit that was a beautiful goal


Imaginary_Peak_5797

WOW! That was 🔥🔥🔥


footysocc

I hate the diving Brazil divas with a passion. Wouldn't mind someone actually giving them a reason to roll and cry around


jsnamaok

Alison Becker from Hamburg


diiN1992

I feel kinda sad for Ederson. Imagine being one of the best keepers atm and still being number 2 in the NT. Field players are subbed eventually but goalkeepers hardly ever switch during a game. Crazy how much quality Brazil have in goal.


Round_Injury6172

Dude this has been Ter Stegen's life the last couple of years. Sometimes you're just unlucky. C'est la vie


arnoldbread

Ederson is better in terms of passing but Alisson is the better shot stopper and overall.


Kind_Mulberry_3512

Was in Lecce today and someone said "Forza Bayern Monaco"


pascal007_

If this game doesn’t have at least one red I will be really disappointed


footysocc

Nah nah nah man, not Bela Rethy


arnoldbread

One observation Ochoa and Sommer are brothers. They only turn up on specific circumstances


rinacio

Sommer is super underrated. He’s genuinely a very good keeper, not just against us


arnoldbread

Yeah maybe i didnt covney the message correctly. I meant to say he turns it up whenever he faces us. He has good performances against other teams but against us its always a seasonal highlight


rinacio

I didn't mean to single you out. In general people seem to think he only plays well against us but for years he's been saving Gladbach's and Switzerland's asses. I'm surprised he never left.


jsnamaok

I have them both on my World Cup fantasy squad and it’s impossible to choose which one to play lol. They’re both such big game players


arnoldbread

Ochoa during the world cup is the equivalent of Sommer against Bayern. Except in case Sommer is channeling that energy over to international tournaments


jsnamaok

You didn’t see him at the euros?


arnoldbread

Sommer is the "International tournaments + Bayern" Man. Man stopped Mbappe pen


jsnamaok

Tbf he’s pretty excellent generally too he just plays with a crap Gladbach


arnoldbread

Concedes 5 against any other team but us. He turns exceptional everytime we face Gladbach.


jsnamaok

It’s really more on Gladbach midfield/defence than him honestly but yes he does turn up big time against us.


ExpatHabs

Next match should be a shithouse epic, prediction: Serbia 2:1 Brasil


kadoooosh

First red card incoming


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

my god the last scene....imagine the memes if that goes in


Teffo05

Fuck zdf and his ads cutting of the replay cunts


Homygod319

The 2nd half was great. Especially the ending


Quaestionaius

If there was a chance for a penalty check but then the ref called the game before the ball could been out. Do they still able to review it?


pascal007_

The keeper almost fumbled it loooool


SlyFisch

He really hit the SIUUUUUU against Ronaldo lmao


diiN1992

Kudus is a beast


Homygod319

How are they lot checkin VAR for that?


jsnamaok

That feels like a very soft penalty call tbh


mrfocus22

Refereeing has been all over the place.


SlyFisch

Ronaldo tax :(


jsnamaok

If only there was some kind of nickname for that


xTatamo

what even was that pen


tankmnandan

If you’re Flick, how do you line up vs Spain? The two big changes I’d make are Ginter for Schlotterbeck and Füllkrug for Havertz. But I’m terrified that Flick is gonna overreact and do something weird, like starting Kehrer and Hoffman as fullbacks


skylu1991

I’d probably start like this: Neuer Klostermann-Ginter-Rüdiger-Raum Kimmich-Gündogan Gnabry-Müller-Musiala Füllkrug Sané could also start for either Müller or Gnabry, but I would honestly not start him. Rather sub him on, once Müller gets tired. Goretzka could start and his physicality might very well help against Spain, but he didn’t look interested in his defensive duties and our midfield looked worse without Gündogan.


CrinkleHawk

The bloke literally ran past Gore for the first goal which was hard to watch because boy is never really prone to errors.


kadoooosh

Neuer Kehrer - Süle - Rüdiger - Raum Kimmich - Goretzka Gnabry - Musiala - Sané Moukoko/Füllkrug Gündogan back in for Goretzka against Costa Rica


diiN1992

If Sané gets fit he might even try Gnabry instead of Havertz but yeah, Füllkrug would be a way better idea than to go with Havertz again. Defensively I'd try Klostermann for Süle who's definitely too slow for that agile Spanish team. I agree on Ginter for Stolperbeck though.


tankmnandan

Is Klostermann fit again? I’d forgotten about him. Don’t envy Flick in any case, not having any real fullbacks besides Raum doesn’t give him a lot to work with, and it’s not like the CBs are all great either. But doing more with less is what separates the great from the good I guess


kadoooosh

should've been a goal for ronaldo


jsnamaok

[Sadio and King Bouna watching Le Choup](https://instagram.com/stories/sadiomaneofficiel/2978490274334438236?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)


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PAT_The_Whale

How is this unpopular?


Bearclawed81

Well and that he can only play one way. He's useless off the ball, and is bad at helping in the build up, but if u just need someone to bang in chances in the box hes good. Not worth the wage or the ego and everything else he brings though


Dry-Professor-2013

Germany will beat Spain and Costa Rica and qualify for the knockouts.


vividatdawn

😂, you are funny.


footysocc

I want some of that hopium you're having... I really don't see how we're supposed to win against Spain, they were stellar


Waschkopfs

Look at the Costa Rica lineup and what clubs they play for


No_Community4641

I saw this on twitter and I will bring it on here as well. The majority of the Germany team are Bayern players and the majority of the Spanish team are Barca players, so it is going to be an exact repeat of Bayern vs Barca. Don't tell me this won't happen and break my delusional bubble. And btw, to anybody who wants to watch another Barca defeat to Bayern, tune into the UWCL match between Bayern and Barca that is scheduled for today.


ZiggyEarthDust

Bayern’s back line is better than the NMT’s.


DevilsOfLoudun

but they aren't coached by clueless Xavi currently, while we have Flick who refused to admit he made mistakes and blamed everything on the players


cavsking21

We need to have an insane GD then. If Japan also beats Costa Rica...


Dry-Professor-2013

If that is what's necessary to advance they'll make it happen. I'm sure of it.


jsnamaok

Eden Hazard is a moron. Guy’s talking about focusing on football when he’s played about 5 minutes in the last 3 years lol. Go find Süle and share a happy meal fatty.


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TheOne63450

Nah, it was necessary. 😃


jsnamaok

You know what is also unnecessary? Implying that our players protesting was responsible for the result of the game, and then proceeding to play like absolute garbage against Canada.


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jsnamaok

Because he is fat.


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jsnamaok

It’s not that deep. No one is being imprisoned or killed for being fat. It’s not something you’re born with and can’t change or are religiously persecuted for. I never saw you say something when myself and the rest of the sub makes McDonald’s jokes about Süle.


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jsnamaok

Ok. Well I apologise if I offended you.


LordSW93

I think he said that when he was specifically asked about the German's team protest. His response was that he wants to focus on what's happening on the pitch. If anything, the fact that he barely played in the last 3years is all the more reason for him to focus on his performance first. It wasn't a diss in anyway, Eden is just that kind of nonchalant guy, especially in interviews.


jsnamaok

I know, I just felt like being rude about him because of how dumb his statement was. A minor protest does not have any effect on the game. We can see that both from how Germany and Belgium played.


ExpatHabs

Seems you’re a bit salty Have you tried wearing an armband, and signalling to the world how woke and awesome you are? It’ll make you feel better.


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ExpatHabs

I don't mind it at all. But they've walked face-first into poo several times -- remember Kimmich's virtue signalling about the Covid vaccination programme when it was then revealed that he was not vaccinated himself? The pose before the match is *irrelevant* but the context is frustrating: these bozos couldn't fashion a chance against Japan so the past week of hemming and hawing about the armband nobody asked for proved to be a distraction... and then they do that dumb pose. It's not just that they're "woke" but that they're so arrogant and think they're above-it-all, so much so that they'd rather speak about the armband than respect their opponent and focus on their opponent and give their supporters a 100% effort. And now Germany is on the verge of elimination in the group stage, yet again.


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ExpatHabs

I don't have any strong opinion about wokeness but I'm quite intolerant of performative hollow gestures. Or, in this case, performative attempts at hollow gestures.


jsnamaok

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ExpatHabs

*[People with whom I have disagreements have NO RIGHT TO EXIST!!]*


jsnamaok

[Ok maybe you’d like to try this instead](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319778)


LordSW93

Yeah of course I don't think it influenced the game. Tbh I don't think he meant it either. Thing is that's the kind of joke you make to your buddy at the bar or playing in Sunday's league and probably shouldn't make on TV but that's just the kind of guy he is. Casual to a fault. And the part about not sending political messages is also his way of saying "stop asking me about it". Obviously I'm also being protective of him but having seen him on the NT for more than 10years, he really didn't mean anything serious about it. You could make the case that he should know better but again he's just that (over) casual, nonchalant of a guy.


PAT_The_Whale

Lille fan here. I agree that he's extremely casual and nonchalant, and yet I too find what he said extremely stupid. Sure, they are not mutually exclusive, but pretty much all OP said was that it was stupid for Eden to say what he said


LordSW93

Yes I agree that it was stupid of him to say that. The thing is, once the headlines came out people, understandably, all jumped on him for his comments. Of course, he should have known better and not say it but he's basically just saying whatever goes through his mind atm, doesn't matter if it's clever or stupid. My point was just that he may not be the brightest guy but he's not the moronic asshole some people would think he is based on that comment.


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a3592

enrique pulled rodri cb why dont flick have the balls to put kimmich rb


FOKvothe

Because it's a complete waste of his talents.


Bearclawed81

Would kimmich at rb help anything? I don't think Germany are gonna suddenly stop conceding the chances they did or finishing the chances they got if he's at rb. I don't think its the worst idea, but its gotta make sense.


netherknight5000

Because he is 10 times better in midfield.


kadoooosh

Anyone here got Bild+ access?


Geamiky

Drama=bad team chemistry


jsnamaok

No one is going to admit that they do 😄


kadoooosh

Shame, I wanna l know what they wrote about the drama in the national team 😔


scrambledeggsss

There is drama? Spicy


Scottyfishyboy

Choupo deserved a goal today 😥


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

how do you guys think the atmosphere in the german team is? in general, obviously there is some kind of hangover mood today for me the gündogan interview yesterday was pretty spicy the second goal was the "easiest goal ever conceded at a world cup" statement does sound like internal trouble to me


DevilsOfLoudun

Manu called it a catastrophe and Müller said that admitting defeat is emotionally difficult so obviously they're not having a great time currently. I don't know how well they get along in general, dfb doesn't have good online content like the english squad channel does for example. Obviously we can tell that some players are friends like Brandt and Havertz, but overall the team doesn't seem as close as the 2010/2014 team did. Gündogan's comments surprised me though.


pascal007_

Tbh the defending yesterday was atrocious. I can fully understand the disappointment from all guys which are used to competent defenders. The comment about the second goal is completely valid.


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

it is valid, but its also throwing your guys under the bus in public


vividatdawn

They deserve to be thrown under the bus.


jsnamaok

True but I do often wonder what is the point of interviews if you’re not honest. So many players just give these vague non-statements so as not to throw anyone under the bus when we can all clearly see what happened. But obviously you never want to single your teammates out publicly. It’s a bit of a double edged sword.


DevilsOfLoudun

saying that teammate x sucked and was the reason we lost the game might be honest, but it would be very dumb to admit publicly because team chemistry is a thing and managing players who secretly hate each other is not fun. A good team player also has to protect the team's public image and not air dirty laundry for all to see and read.


jsnamaok

Yeah I agree I was just kinda thinking out loud on that one.


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

i prefer just giving the media the classic vanilla statements to shut them up and then talking in private or you do it like oli kahn "WE NEED COJONES" it strikes me like gündogan makes that statement in public, but he wouldnt tell schlotterbeck to his face that his current play stinks (cant confirm of course) this team is not a team in my opinion


Hankol

so if we lose against Spain that's basically it, no?


Thraff1c

Even a draw wouldnt be good enough if we are honest.


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

in theory no, if costa rica beats japan there would still be a chance correct me please if i am wrong


Petarthefish

There is literally no way costa rica beats Japan lol


Hankol

fair enough, but that is even more unlikely lol.


Phoreskin

Yes


LovefromAbroad23

So was there any point in his career that Havertz was considered good?


kadoooosh

Havertz was absolutely brilliant for Leverkusen, what are you on about?


williamsRB

Man, Havertz for Vizekusen was a joy to watch. It's absolutely crazy they seamlessly replaced him with Wirtz (when Wirtz was fit). Also, I simply don't understand players moving to clubs that don't play in a tactical set-up that makes sense for them. Havertz was lethal in Bosz's 433 system (cutting inside or drifting in the halfspace from the right winger position \[Valverde anyone?\]; or playing as an attacking 8 - kind of a 10 - in other games) and then disappeared when he was played as a striker (see yesterday or at various times for Chelsea since his transfer). Yes, he's only 23 and won the CL at Chelasea but if I was Havertz, I would call my agent immediately. (It's sad though, Germany has so many good players for the 10 spot - Musiala, Müller, Götze, Havertz, Brandt - but the creative, technical 10 just isn't needed anymore tactically in most cases \[except for at Bayern\]. Who stlil plays with a true 10?)


LovefromAbroad23

For Germany, I mean.


a3592

latest uefa nation match against england


Thraff1c

How were Davies and David yesterday?


rossfcb

Davies was excellent early on and then faded. He also seemed to hold himself back a bit, he didn’t chase back with the team on a few Belgium counters. Something to do with a light hamstring injury before the game (why was he playing then ?????). David didn’t look anything special. Buchanan and Larin seemed more effective in the game.


footysocc

> Eden Hazard on Germany's gesture: "Yeah, but then they lost the game. They would've been better off not doing it and winning. We're here to play football, I'm not here to send a political message, there are people better placed for that. We want to focus on football" [@RMCsport] Spicy


DevilsOfLoudun

if I were as garbage as him I wouldn't really comment on other teams and their values


ExpatHabs

Everybody knows what’s for real and what isn’t. The German NT and players wanted to get sucked off by the media and “fans” (Which? Whom?) for the *intention* to wear a fkn armband. If they had won it would be forgotten, but they lost and looked poor — so criticism is merited. Hazard and his NT sucked against Canada too but his criticism is valid. They’re there to compete for the World Cup, they need to take tk seriously. The Japanese did.


LordSW93

He said the first bit as a joke. What is a stupid one to make in an interview? Yeah sure but that's just how he is. If any player/team wants to make a stand or send a message, I personally think good for them but Eden is just not that kind of football player, he's basically a small town, kinda hillbilly guy who just wants to play and doesn't think much about the rest. It wasn't an eloquent or elaborate answer but having seen hundreds of his interviews, there's really no point to read too much into it.


TheEmperorsWrath

Fuck off back to McDonalds, Eden.


scrambledeggsss

Why is it one or the other? What do they have to do each other?


kadoooosh

TIL Eden Hazard is an Alice Weidel fan


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

i agree with him but having that in mind their own performance was pretty shit, needed the refs to win the game


jsnamaok

You agree with him, but also acknowledge that this gesture had absolutely zero effect on the games since Belgium got dominated by Canada. Interesting.


Thraff1c

What kinda argument is that. As if a gesture of 10 seconds has any impact on the outcome of a football game.


Mithridates12

It's not about how long it takes, I think the argument is that it's a distraction (obviously the players talked about it beforehand and it might make it more difficult to to focus 100%). No idea if that's the case, but I do find it...interesting how Hazard put it.


Spirit0f76ers

If anything, agreeing as a group to make a stand should bring them together, not be a distraction.


Thraff1c

How much brainpower and time do you think it takes for them to agree to that? And they have free time repeatedly, so it probably never was a topic during training. So instead of playing playstation, they probably came together for a team meeting, agreed to that, and that's it.


kadoooosh

Sané remains doubtful Coaches and players seem to think everything is fine and we just need to focus and be more efficient I got a bad feeling for sunday


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Advertising-Cautious

Nah just root for an Asian or African team at this point. They are playing for their lives in this tournament. Only Iran and Qatar have been disappointing. Tbf Iran has turmoil back home and Qatar.. Is Qatar


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

unleash the choupo!


No_Community4641

Choupo with the captain's armband for the game against Switzerland !!!


jsnamaok

Was he ever captain before? I swear at Afcon he was warming the bench half the time. Good for him man.


No_Community4641

Didn't watch the AFCON and didn't follow the Cameroon football team before this WC. But very happy for that guy, he's having a great season and deserves all the good things coming his way


_notreally__

Bayern needs a real 9 a real stricker


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_notreally__

Decent striker, Flick has to give him a chance


Insanel0l

My mom used to be quite good at stricken, I can ask her


MazPA

Any news on Mazraoui?


Bearclawed81

It won’t keep him out for long, or at least isn’t expected to


_notreally__

It's taking too long let's just hope the best for him


julesvr5

Not yet, but they don't expect him to be out for long


edolF

Maybe just being paranoid, but I have a bad feeling since it has taken this long..


scrambledeggsss

The opposite, bad news would have arrived by now.


Ajvarmk

I dont know, do we have some others from our guys actually won a game in the WC (beside the french guys) ? I think we as a team have a nightmare start in the WC ... injuries are killing us, results are not so good and confidence is going down ... this WC can change the whole course of our season


ManoLorca

Netherlands, De Ligt


Ajvarmk

forgot about him ... he actually had decent game as well


HroFCBayern

Mazraoui was great until got injured, too. Morocco as a whole did alright in 0-0 against Croatia.


Kruphyx

Sadly not really, but he was played out of position.


13s_number12

I actually hope for another group stage exit resulting in a full meltdown. Only that way there is a chance for real change in the DFB.


pewpewlasersandshit

While i hate the DFB leadership as much as everyone else... a lot of problems (i.e lack of certain player types) won't suddenly disappear if you change out key personnel at the DFB...


13s_number12

I know and I don't expect that but a change in leadership is a first step in tackling those problems. And I just dont wanna see Bierhoff anymore.


pewpewlasersandshit

Yeah, absolutely on board with kicking out the guys on top. And while we are at it, let's also do that with UEFA and FIFA as well..


HeilWerneckLuk

Do you still have hopes on it?


ManoLorca

I follow many well known tactic bloggers from the UK and Germany on twitter. And it is incredible to see their tweets during and after yesterday's match. They all were praising the style of play and tactics as one of the best at the World Cup and nearly all wrote that the main reason their lost was because they became too comfy This gives me a bit hope for Spain. Because i don't think we will get complacent during the game for them


wifi-wire

The problem with Flick’s tactics is that it relies very much on CBs that are both fast and able to position themselves. Otherwise a long ball between the two CBs always ends up with conceding a goal even when dominating the game. Same story with his second season at Bayern. Boateng was too slow, Alaba out of position too often. I wonder what he could do with Upa and De Ligt instead.


rossfcb

Yeah and actually if you watch the key moments of the game again, Germany were really good at times. There is way too much revisionism after a result. Suddenly Germany are terrible because they lost. Yes it is a massive danger in a 3 game format. But they lost because of two mistakes, and I suppose there was a third which could have been a Japan goal too. But ultimately they were far better, and missed plenty of chances themselves. Contrast that to Belgium, who were absolutely terrible against Canada. Based on how both teams played, Belgium are more likely to lose their next game than Germany are. But Germany are in crisis and Belgium are top of their group.


ExpatHabs

How many genuine chances did Germany carve out?


scrambledeggsss

I don't think Germany is that bad, honestly. I think if they pick up intensity and concentration, they'll be fine. They played really good for an hour, just didn't convert their chances and then got comfy, like you said.


xPlasma10

Any ideas for the line up on Sunday? Also, if feels like this team hasn’t been the same since the semi finals of euros in 2016. Obviously, excluding the 2017 confederation cup win. Hopefully, flick can figure things out by 2024


julesvr5

The main problem is we need a striker because Werner or Havertz up front sucks ass and our defense is shit to say the least.


Motor_Bed9389

Man, if Germany somehow wins against Spain, the entirety of the group would be flipped on its head. It would be bedlam. I can’t wait and hope we somehow find a way to win.


blueberriesxapple

I hope this doesn’t come off as rude but the incessant blue lock jokes have become pretty unfunny quickly.


irun_mon

I have no idea what that is


invisibleshitpostgod

anime about a soccer team iirc


Ragtime_Kid

Exactly. In the Anime, Japan is facing the same crisis we have (decent team but no real striker), so they create one while putting all strikers around high school age in blue lock. Theres only kne winner and the losers all are not allowed to ever play for the NT again. Really good stuff btw


orangeapple24

Truly unfortunate how this World Cup has turned out for Germany. Possibly the last World Cup for a few players as well. I also wanted to see Kimmich, Goretzka, etc in the knock outs. Oh well… we must beat Spain. Do any of you think we can genuinely beat them? After their 7-0 thrashing, i don’t see how we can tbh.


kvnschm

No offense against Costa Rica, but their weren't an opponent at all. Just looking at some goals they conceded said everything


ExpatHabs

Flick’s Germany would struggle to generate clear chances against any team, up to and including Costa Rica. They’d make Navas look like a god, like always.


Waschkopfs

Look where the Costa Rica players play. They started a guy who plays for the Sunderland reserve team iirc. The rest mostly plays in the Costa Rican league which is not very good


HeilWerneckLuk

Not if Havertz play


13s_number12

No, because our NT has been terrible since years and have not given me any reason to believe.