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poghosyan

shame on Türkgücü and the cops


kadoooosh

Imagine blocking someone for saying that the Kurdish flag isn’t the same as the PKK flag 🤡


julesvr5

I don't even know what the PKK flag is


Insanel0l

Pkk is the Arbeiterpartei of the kurdish people basically, who are rather radical and aggressive Hence why, when I first read that they brought up posters of the pkk, I was rather negative minded towards these fans


PM_ME_DEINE_MUTTER

They are political extremists and terrorists responsible for a number of bombings and killings in Turkey. It would have made sense to remove anything pkk-related, but the actual banner was harmless, although it’s not surprising that it would cause tension at a Türkgücü game. The police handled the situation terribly.


jsnamaok

Benzema confirmed out of the World Cup too.


Insanel0l

Next big star out, man this is turning into a disaster


julesvr5

Dropping like flys


xTatamo

real madrid with that nice BMW sponsor -.-


OpportunityNearby138

Come on maaan i need to watch some footballlll


faintu

You gonna watch the world cup?


footysocc

So the question got asked before but I didn't cat h the answer: will there be match threads for the WC? For Germany games maybe? Or will we talk as usual in the DD?


Insanel0l

We'll be posting Daily Match Threads, makes the most sense given there's 3-4 matches a day


footysocc

Perfect, thanks!


Thraff1c

Tel scored a goal for the u19 nt again in their 2:0 win against Iceland.


reflect9

Tel is so gonna step up once the season resumes


footysocc

Things we love to hear


Insanel0l

Brazzo was prolly really right when he said that Tel is the kind of player that goes for 100m in a couple of years, might be yet another great deal if he keep this development


spartancrow2665

From a tactical perspective why did we move away from the 4222? Is it because the off the ball formation of the 4231, being a midfield 5, provides more numerical superiority when defending against counters while also providing more compactness?


Die_Roten_94

Are u interested in reading a lengthy reply? If yes, then I will type a comment here.


spartancrow2665

I was half expecting you to literally type "a comment" for some reason LOL


Die_Roten_94

Sorry, I forgot to reply to this. I will try posting one after the season finishes. I wrote a draft comment but that was just based on starting formations. It doesn't show much because the formation keeps varying throughout the game. So, I guess i will have to watch all the games again.


spartancrow2665

Yes I love in depth analysis


MdgigntsgoswcIdwmlwy

If Pavard eventually decides to make a move to another club do we have any promising defenders in the academy that could fill the 4th CB spot? Could we look to bring in some sort of an obscure player who is not likely to improve his game any further because of his age, and thus is not being monitored by any big clubs, but could end up being a solid 4th option for us behind Lucas, de Ligt and Upa such as Djimsiti?


LordSW93

Stanisic is promising and have shown versatility.


MdgigntsgoswcIdwmlwy

Even if he can play as RB, CB, and LB he's still only one player. Without Pavard in a scenario where Davies, Lucas, de Ligt and Maz are starting we would only be left with Upa and Štanišić as substitutes. We would still need new defenders.


LordSW93

Indeed, my point was just specifically for Stanisic as back up CB. I don't really have any names that comes to mind for RB/LB options so didn't throw any out there but I agree we need more than that.


Thraff1c

But we will still need 1 if not 2 players for our backline when Pavard leaves. We can't go through a season with just 6 players.


wifi-wire

Stanisic as RB backup and then trigger Marco Friedl‘s buyback because he can play both LB and CB would make sense imo


julesvr5

Isn't Friedl pretty slow?


LordSW93

Yeah I don't disagree with that. For me if Pavard leaves then Stanisic would be #4 CB, Maz #1 RB, ideally we'd need a backup RB and LB.


BestSingedHawai

Mudryk reminds me so much of Ribery. The way he plays and goes forward when in possession. Would be such a good signing for us IMO.


Homygod319

Shaktar want 50-60 million for him and he’s already talking about wanting to playing in the premier league. Also we have 4 top quality wingers why on earth are we even talking about him being a good signing when he’s not needed?


BestSingedHawai

I'm literally just some guy on a Reddit forum saying he'd be a good signing. Also, this might not be a popular opinion. But personally, I'm not a huge fan of Coman and think we should cash in on him as soon as we can. His main asset is his speed, and when he actually is available to play he is a good player, but not a world-class player. And while Mudryk might cost 50-70m I think his ceiling is much MUCH higher than Coman's (and as mentioned in a previous comment, Coman seems to be stuck and reached his ceiling). And we need world-class players, not good players. Good players are supposed to be on our bench and not our starting XI. From an investment POV, Coman is on an estimated $17M/year (lol). Mudryk's starting wages would probably be somewhere from 5-7M. So, not even calculating his potential increase in market value, he would save us a lot. And if you also include the fee we could get for Coman (I think 50 m is definitely realistic) we would be much better off financially. From a sporting POV, Coman is just very one-dimensional. Either he runs to the goal line and crosses, or takes too long to think and stifles our counters. Often times this does work, but it's not a sustainable way to play. Especially against top teams.


dklieber32

Couldn’t agree more about Coman. Huge respect and appreciation for what he did to win us the treble but when you compare him to sane and Musiala for instance, the difference is really noticeable. I’ve said before, he seems to lack the composure and football knowledge of the previous two. I’ve felt he often times comes off likes he’s running around like a chicken with its head cut off and then just blasting in uncontrollable or wild crosses. I also don’t think his link up plays helps in our buildup and for teams that sit in a low block. To me, he’s technically lacking when compared to sane and Musiala and doesn’t have the finishing strengths that gnabry does. If someone has to go from our front line, to me it’s a no brainer it’s him.


dklieber32

Is that the kid from Shakhtar? He got a ton of hype going into the group stages of the CL and I meant to check him out


Tvp9

Shit, I was looking at his highlights and it reminded me of Ribery also, glad to see I'm not the only one seeing it.


BestSingedHawai

What I really like is that he is used to both, playing on the counter and against a low block. And that he is not a one-trick pony, but actually does different things depending on the situation (good football IQ). I think he is a player who will transition very well into a top league. Obviously, you can still do it as a one-trick pony, looking at our squad Coman for example. But in my opinion, Mudryk will be a top player.


timothymr

One week without Nagelsmann ball. I have come to a football match in 8th division of English football.


Agreeable-Disk-6958

Downvote for Nagelsmann ball lol it’s football


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

i will check out a sunday league match tomorrow near my place, 3€ entry and cheap beer lets go


julesvr5

>cheap beer Qatar could never


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

VIP lounge is just like 20 grand or so peanuts


julesvr5

>peanuts I think they charge extra for these


jsnamaok

On fifa 23 seasons does everyone still only play as psg?


ghostOfGigantor

Haven’t tried seasons yet but I imagine a large uptick in Barcelona and City usage


jsnamaok

I heard that cheesing matches by just sprinting with Mbappe etc had been turned way down. I found ways to counter it on 22 but still annoying just playing the same team same tactics every game.


Officerbeefsupreme

How did you counter it? I normally played a 352 but would switch to a back 4 when playing PSG


jsnamaok

The best way I found was have Phonzie at RB to counter Neymar spam and Lucas LB to counter Messi spam with Upa and Süle at cb to tank Mbappe. Leaves a bit of a problem for defensive subs but rely on heavy attacking to close the game early with Coman, and Sané on wings and Gnabry cam (Müller supersub). I beat PSG 80% of the time with this setup if they try the usual bullshit with sprinting and dumb skill moves.


No_Community4641

A 7-0 win in the DFB Pokal against Duisburg for our women's team. Next up, CL game against Barcelona at Allianz Arena. Keeping my fingers crossed for that one.


kadoooosh

https://twitter.com/fanatico_japan/status/1593989967331852290/photo/1 The banner in question. If I speak..


Die_Roten_94

Lol. I want to say so much but I chose not.


Mytiq_

Honestly, same. There is so much to say about this topic but it’s probably better to keep our mouths shut sometimes. All I’m going to say is that I love Kurdish folks


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

the pkk and related logos, flags, etc are forbidden everywhere in germany as signs of a terrorist organisation show that shit and it gets removed


kadoooosh

There was no PKK logo or flag


wifi-wire

For me there is no PKK flag or logo visible on this banner. The Kurdish flag itself is not forbidden.


Insanel0l

https://twitter.com/fanatico_japan/status/1593988062433902592 Look at this aswell, wow


wifi-wire

This banner justifies the police beating up and pepper spraying fans ? Bavarian police is more and more drifting away from democratic standards.


Insanel0l

*including kids


PM_ME_DEINE_MUTTER

WTF? So the police attacked the fans, including children, over… this? What are we missing?


Insanel0l

So turkish and kurdish people (historically) are pretty much enemies, to give you a analogy on recent events: Imagine an ukranian side playing vs a random team and that random teams fanbase put up a "random team fanclub russia" flag. Given the announcer, I assume that officials around the club (or fans or Idk) of Türkgücü felt provoked, hence why the game was stopped and the fans were asked to remove the banner. They refused because they said it's not provocative, which then lead to everything you see above. I absolutely cannot tell you why the police decided to intervene like that, just feels like some sort of power trip but sadly, as we know, nothing will happen to them anyways.


PAT_The_Whale

I try to not endorse ACAB shit, but when you see stories like this so often, it's often hard not to start thinking it...


Thraff1c

Turkey and Kurdistan aren't the best friends to put it mildly, so Türkgücgu as semi-turkish club had probably some issues with that. But that's totally bs here, this isn't even political, it's just a few fans putting the name and the flag of Kurdistan on their banner.


Its_not_him

The video of the players at the NFL game is funny as hell. My favorite moments are: Davies is very excited about doing the coin toss (5:10) but they really just want him to stand there while it happens. The players have a meet and greet with Tom Brady and Musiala introduces himself but Brady hears it as "Jabahn" instead of Jamal. Musiala meekly corrects him but Brady just looks at him and moves on. Happens around 12:00 https://youtu.be/YadbdgwqQQQ


jonomarkono

Vettel just pulled that lap out of nowhere.


julesvr5

Lol how every F1 comment gets downvoted. It's not like the sub is almost dead anyways without any kind of football.


PAT_The_Whale

I imagine that it was downvoted before, but it's at +4 now. I imagine that your comment had an impact!


julesvr5

We were all on -2 to -3, now I'm on -5 :D


PAT_The_Whale

Damn


jonomarkono

Just your usual reddit then lol.


julesvr5

The whole lap I was scared about a blocked S3 but he just went straight ahead through there without even blinking. No fucks were given there!


jonomarkono

That is really peak Qualy Seb.


No_Community4641

Vettel's last qualifying session as an F1 driver :(


julesvr5

You've seen what Ferrari did for him?


No_Community4641

Was your question in reference to that Ferrari farewell to Seb or was it with regards to Ferrari's incompetence when Seb was driving for them ? I assumed it was the latter but just saw that wholesome video on their twitter page, they did something memorable (in a good way) for once.


julesvr5

Their farewell gift


No_Community4641

My bad, didn't realize that. Might've shedded a tear or two by the end of it.


julesvr5

That's why I said "what they did FOR him" not "TO him" :D >shedded a tear or two Totally acceptable. Only shows you are a human.


No_Community4641

My comprehension skills have been on a downward spiral in recent times (not ideal for somebody who is studying to become a lawyer). Will keep a box of tissues with me for the race coz it's all going to get very emotional tomorrow. Don't have any expectations from AM but Red Bull better have something special planned for Seb's final race.


No_Community4641

Yep, bad old days. That was the beginning of my Ferrari hate era and that only intensified with time. Things are worse with AM but they don't consider themselves to be the face of F1.


julesvr5

Holy shit what a lap by Seb that was. Cutting through S3 with all the others like there is no one


No_Community4641

A living legend doing living legend things. His retirement will leave a void and one that nobody can prepare me for.


jsnamaok

> Manuel Neuer was heard telling Youssoufa Moukoko "Come to Bayern" after the youngster was asked about his future during today's press conference


arnoldbread

On a similar note, while Neuer is the GOAT that Yellow WC Kit is so bad. Its too distracting imo


jsnamaok

Reminds me of Liverpools McDonald’s kit from last season, hopefully it helps Süle make more effort to helps Manu out.


arnoldbread

Tears. Our captain has to dress as Ronald McDonald just to motivate Süle.


jsnamaok

Desperate times desperate measures etc etc


Insanel0l

FC Bayern 2 game is cancelled in case anyone is wondering Apparently the kurdish fc bayern fanclub had a small banner with some kind political message (a fan in the stadium said it's related to the pkk) and didn't want to remove it, after 25 mins break the situation escalated and the police attacked the fans in question to remove the banner. Apparently a kid was also injured with pepper spray during that. Maybe TZ will release more information https://www.tz.de/sport/fc-bayern/tuerkguecue-muenchen-fc-bayern-amateure-regionalliga-bayern-91926184.html


PAT_The_Whale

We have more info now, it was literally just "FC Bayern Fanclub Kurdistan" with the Kurdish flag


MazPA

Alright, 14:30, time to check the line-up for today's ma- oh.


kadoooosh

The fuck is going at the ama match? Did the fans raise a Hopp banner or why are they only passing to each other?


Insanel0l

Apparently a racist banner


kadoooosh

TZ is saying it was a banner from the FC Bayern Kurdistan fan club. Apparently (not confirmed) they asked them to remove a Dachau banner as well.


Insanel0l

I think this game won’t resume, fans are fighting police now


kadoooosh

They’re beating fans up to take a Kurdistan banner away from them lol Bavaria is truly something else


Insanel0l

Someone on twitter said the kurdish fanclub hang up a banner which was pretty much about the pkk, which would make a lot of sense given the stadium announcer asked to hold back political messages multiple times


TheEmperorsWrath

Based


kadoooosh

Would be good to know if actually was a PKK banner


Insanel0l

..And our fans are doing some kind of protest so the game is now stopped Edit: Game suspended for now, fuck whatever our "fans" are doing


TheEmperorsWrath

Well, now we know the fans did nothing wrong. They just had a banner saying "FC Bayern Fan Club Kurdistan" And this is why you don't jump your fellow fans immediately without knowing any context


Thraff1c

>Game suspended for now, fuck whatever our "fans" are doing Can't we wait until we know more before we blame the fans and call them not real fans?


Insanel0l

https://sporttotal.tv/maf92dd850 First game under our new coach is now live


sarovar12

Tel recently won U17 Euros and now is statpadding in U19 level as well. Looks like he's going to U21 next and he's only getting better, Since Sadio is out for January he's getting more gametime.


Insanel0l

In case anyone is bored today: Bayern 2 is playing against Türkgücü München today, game will be streamed on Sporttotal Edit: At 2pm (or in 3 hours)


NifferEUW

I thought that team went bankrupt.. Guess they got saved in the end?


lambo9797

God those 2010 vibes were unmatched. Eventhough my country was eliminated in the group stages, I still feel like that was one of the most feel-good vibes WC on all aspects.


sarovar12

Muller that WC was so fucking good.


julesvr5

Maradonna: who the fuck is Thomas Müller? Müller: scores against him after just 3 min


scrambledeggsss

What is it with people tempting fate with Müller. Maradona, that Jota Jordi guy from Barca. Need someone else to do it now.


ACardAttack

Fucking yellow card


Die_Roten_94

Jabulani ❤️


julesvr5

For me 2010 had a better feeling than 2014 aswell somehow


Ragtime_Kid

2006 still kicks for me like crazy. I was a child, the wc in my country and the song “love generation” was airing everywhere


julesvr5

BE THE LOVE GENERATION UH YEAH YEAH YEAH


Die_Roten_94

I haven't been following Timber. Is he having better form than De ligt? I would like some unbiased take on it. I do know that De Ligt was a bit shaky in the start of this season. Also, he had some injury issues. I don't get all the over reactionary comments on Van Gaal's choice.


Ealt

De Ligt hasn't been very good for the national team


Bearclawed81

It’s cuz they’re playing a 3 back and De Ligt isn’t as good at the RCB spot.