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kvnschm

Oh it's today already


DeeOhEf

Can't stand either, 'Big City Club' pshhh But it's also hilarious to watch Hamburg fuck up in 2. BuLi and it's well deserved after those final abysmal years in the top league.


mavarian

Hamburg has been humbled enough though, and also restructured the club somewhat. Berlin is a worse offender, so I'm all in for them to swap leagues


Djosa1

Magath pisses me off too.


Tyrath

Definitely rooting for HSV after those recent Magath comments


Matt87M

Well said


tycoon34

I think Hamburg going back up would be decent for the league and I don't think we really need Hertha up at all.


williamsRB

Get rid of the relegation altogether. I don't think it's fair that a team that played well for a season has to live with staying down after losing against a team that has shown all season it doesn't belong in the first league.


i_love_rem

I completely agree with you. But it's all about that sweet, sweet TV cash.


N0i1

But then look at Köln who clearly where good enough for this season


OtrivinMenthol

It's a way to protect the Bundesliga from getting a team that is not good enough. Remove this match, then it should only be two teams going down and two going up.


i_love_rem

/s ?


OtrivinMenthol

No.... It's common knowledge.


i_love_rem

It's wrong. The relegation matches are there to add two more games to the calendar to generate more TV revenue. And do you actually believe that HSV is worse than Hertha?


OtrivinMenthol

It's better for the product to make sure that the better team gets to play in the Bundesliga. If Hertha wins over two matches then yes, that would be the better outcome. The stats of 10-2 in favor of the Bundesliga is only proving that to be correct, you can whine all you want, but this is protection of the league and the teams in it... To keep the overall quality higher. But I agree they should remove it and make it so only 2 teams are promoted.


OtrivinMenthol

Now the record is 11-2 in favor of the Bundesliga teams, so again it protected the overall quality of the league. Beautiful.


i_love_rem

I disagree. HSV would have been a better addition to the league than Hertha.


OtrivinMenthol

Yet they failed in doing so and this doesn't deserve it.


i_love_rem

Personally, I think it's a bit much to imply that a single goal invalidates 68 games. Hertha sucked the entire season, they don't 'deserve' to be in the Bundesliga anymore than Hamburg.


OtrivinMenthol

So in fact you are agreeing with us... Perfect.


upsuits

if they're so good, they should have no problem beating the team who doesn't belong in the first league.


Ragtime_Kid

Totally in for Hertha because HSV and Pauli NEED to stay in a league. Either promote both or none.


xTatamo

HA HO HE Hertha BSC als Berliner muss das sein


Burn_desu

Berlin going down would be horrible for their finances so it'd be kinda funny


merrryo

Fuck Magath and anyone that loves him


Homygod319

Insallah Hamburg pull through