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J O R D A N D A V I S
Single-handed completely changing their defense.
He wasn't a full time player this week. Their other DTs played huge today as well. Linval and Suh getting up to speed are HUGE additions. Literally.
Why was suh just sitting in free agency unsigned?
He’s old an I don’t think he wanted to sign with anyone that’s wasn’t good. He’s looking for a ring.
Yeah he knew he'd get a really good opportunity once a team decides this is the year to go all in. Smart move I think.
He was coveted. Waiting for his opportunity on a good team is my guess. 49ers also really wanted him.
I want the saints to lose out so we get Jalen Carter so so so badly
I've never rooted so hard against a team I care 0 about in my life. That was such a Chad trade swap on Howie's part.
I've hated the saints for many many years, but it's good to have yet another reason to continue that hate lol
Howie has been an absolute douche canoe with personnel in the past, but he's on a hot streak. He managed to balance a playoff run and prepare for the mass exodus of linemen on both sides of the ball next year.
Here's to hoping Houston comes back and the Saints tank harder.
Derrick Henry having a good game
was never meant
Too bad he got hurt I liked his chances for DROY
that award is reserved for Mr. Sauce
Damn good Dawg!
Their offensive line is dogshit. As a King Henry owner, I’m fuckin nervous for my playoff run (aside from vs Texans round 2)
Titans fan and Henry owner: O Line is worse than it has been in a long time and all the good receivers have been out AND they aren’t willing to throw to TEs consistently.
Also less reliance on PA due to poor O Line play really exposes the offense and Tannehill quite a bit
Just traded for him because of their schedule and I’m not that excited.
Same here. I figured it was what I needed to push me over the top after finishing 2d the last two years. And my QB (Lamar) goes down. Gonna get twitchy here real soon.
I lost Ken Walker too and had a dud from Kelce. Just a shit day for me overall. Gonna just move on to next week and hope Henry gets some more passing work to get him going again.
Same. On the bright side, things would have to go pretty bad for my whole team first week of play offs, then the 2nd round Texans should hopefully get me into the finals.. then basically anything can happen from there.
Their whole game plan went to shit the minute Burkes got hurt.
Which is weird because you'd think the game plan would revolve around their best player.
It does. But without Burkes, they could just stack the box because no other Titan receiver scares them (or anyone else).
Also, their pass rush was working on overdrive. As the Titans fell further and further back they had to become more one dimensional and rely more on the pass. Both the Eagles' offensive and defensive lines were doing work today...
They could’ve stacked the box anyway and just had slay or Bradberry one on one with him
Giants don't have any scary receivers, but Barkley does it every week.
No he doesn’t lmao
Slayton and Richie James are at least serviceable, and jones always has the threat of keeping it himself. Tannehill is not a very good runner, and NWI and Woods both really suck
Slayton and Richie James are JAGs. The only difference is that the Giants know how to use their best player and the Titans don't.
We have the Shadow of Robert Woods and NWI who would be a WR4 at best on any other team, let alone a starter. I'd rather have Slayton than either one of these two
You have the best pure runner in the NFL, a competent QB, and Robert Woods is just fine; he led a Superbowl team in receiving just a couple years ago. What you guys lack is competent play calling.
If you watch him play he's nothing like he was in LA. Titans WR are terrible at [getting open](https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/08/tennessee-titans-wide-receiver-separation-week-9/) and our o-line is severely banged up.
Downing is a terrible play caller and He definitely doesn't help but even when he has try to get creative, we never execute because no one gets open or we done block anyone.
Woods isn’t even playing at WR 3 level right now and the drop off in talent after him is somehow even worse. It’s the least talented receiving room in the league.
If only the rules of football allowed you to throw to running backs lol
What happened to Kyle philips
He's been out with a hamstring injury. He hasn't come off IR yet
(It’s almost like running backs aren’t nearly as valuable as receivers)
This tired argument again.
Apologies you don’t like the truth!
Imagine actually thinking this.
Imagine not thinking this
I don’t have to because it’s basic truth lol
Agreed. When I watch Rhamondre Stevenson carry the Patriots offense, all I can think about is *thank GOD* we have a really good runningback and not a really good receiver.
All the high caliber offenses run through their runningback. I mean look at all the offenses that are good without good receivers such as the… uh…
Like yes they are both valuable for a good offense that is not in question lol
And the answer to your query is the New York giants.
The high flying 22nd in PPG New York Giants 💯
And yeah, it’s not like the Titans offense instantly went from a bottom tier offense to an elite offense when they got AJ Brown or anything. And they definitely aren’t coincidentally massively regressing when they lost him.
But that’s all ok, because when Derrick Henry went down last season for half the season, their offense also massively regre— oh.
>I mean look at all the offenses that are good without good receivers such as the… uh…
Jacobs is doing his best to carry the Raiders, CMC was most of the Panthers before he left. Can you name a good offense with a good receiver and don't have a good QB/RB
The Raiders have Davante Adams and all those Panthers offenses blew donkey ass
In no world is Burks more valuable than Henry
I made a mistake and didn’t look at the sub lol.
Henry must not be a very useful running back if he can't catch passes. Too bad.
You're pretty smart, they should probably just cut him
I mean if they're not gonna use him
Yo, you should coach for the Titans.
That would probably be an upgrade if we're being honest
You sir don’t understand how the run game works.
Incidentally, neither does the Titans coaching staff it seems
Why are people downvoting you? Downing is a shit OC that should have been fired years ago, as a colts fan I'm glad he still has a job there lol
People like to pile on. A lot of group think on this sub unfortunately.
Absolutely pea-brained take lmao.
So you're saying I have a shot at joining the Titans coaching staff?
When Henry is the only threat on offense you stack the box against him. Shut down the run. The bengals did it last week and the Eagles did the same this week. Not having an elite wr on their roster is fucking up Henrys ability to produce
Don’t even need elite, just serviceable
I guess if your only plan is to run up the middle that works. If the Titans OC was better, he'd probably try doing something other than that one play.
Hell, even the Texans made their singular weapon Dameon Pierce relevant once in a while.
> once in a while.
hm. this seems like a KEY modifier.
Would be cool if the Titans had tried it once in a while
When he got targeted and got knocked out smh. That was a dirty play.
Who knew, I should’ve started swifty instead.
They need to get him involved with dump offs and screens. They're play calling has been sub par for the past few weeks.
Few weeks? For 2 years. Downing commits acts of play calling heresy every single week.
As a Derrick Henry owner for years I miss Arthur Smith
They have been doing that though.
3, 3, 2, 3 the last four games. Not really.
Yes really. Try watching the game for a change. Are you expecting them to do 8 screen passes to their non pass catching running back a game?
Yes. He's their best player. A good OC gets their best player involved
Especially when his biggest plays the past few weeks have been in the passing game.
nOt A pAsS cAtChInG bAcK
NFL coaches are addicted to putting worse RBs in on 3rd down
NFL coaches like keeping their QB on their feet on third down. A lot of RBs are bad at pass protection.
Hilliard is objectively a better receiving back than Henry and has made countless plays in the passing game this year. Not a bad decisions on anything that isn't third and short.
>nOt A pAsS cAtChInG bAcK
He's not a pass-catching back. Catching a screen and going untouched for 50+ yards does not make him a pass-catching back. He is not a good route runner out of the backfield. Any professional athlete has hands good enough to catch a pass your dad used to toss to you in the backyard, which is what Henry has, but he's not a pass-catching back.
He is objectively awful at running routes and catching the ball. I’m a massive Henry fan, but he is a terrible receiving option unless he has 7 yards of space.
He is involved. He gets about 25 touches a game. He is also getting one or two screen passes a game on top of a few dump offs. Sorry He gave you a dud but he went up against perhaps best defense in the league and their best receiver went down in first quarter. Shit happens
I don't have Henry lol. I'm just saying that they need to develop his passing set
You think maybe he's not that good at it? Nah...you know more than the coaches for sure. My bad
The secret is in our OLine and Todd Downing. There's a reason I didn't draft anyone from my favorite team.
Exactly. I watched the entire game and they did not get him in the screen/dump off game, again.
Our fan base has been screaming to can our OC since last year
Don't get us started on Cody Hollister and Geoff Swaim.
Cee dee lamb was in motion over 60% of plays today, good oc finds a way
Did you watch the game? Henry had 0 looks the whole game.
He had 2 catches so that’s definitely more than 0
Facts. 0 IQ on my end for that.
I did. Did you?
It has worked in every game they have done it. How on earth can I see this but they cannot??
Titans could have used a receiver like AJ Brown.
Yeah but Trey Burks could be anything. He could even be AJ Brown!
In fairness Burkes has looked really good. Taking a dirty hit in the endzone is the only reason he didn’t go wild today
He’ll prob be out next week too. Would love to start him first round of playoffs but now I don’t know. Hope he’s okay.
My blood is boiling from that. That player should have been ejected. There was no reason to hit him that hard in the end zone.
> There was no reason to hit him that hard in the end zone.
Trying to dislodge the ball and prevent a TD catch is a pretty good reason.
Pretty sure he wasn't holding the ball with his face.
Shit he didn’t perfectly execute the play, better eject him then.
With a helmet to helmet hit? He should’ve been kicked out of the game.
He lowered the shoulder for the hit and since Burks didn’t land upright it happened to be a helmet to helmet hit. I get the flag I guess, but definitely not a deliberately dirty hit
When he leads with his head it’s pretty easy to ‘accidentally’ hit helmet to helmet. Dirty hit
No he shouldn’t have, it was a bang bang play. Holy shit some fans are soft these days.
Shut the fuck up
Don’t even try with these people, eagles fans flock to these threads to defend their dirty ass city and team
Lol you must be a cowboys fan. 11-1!
Lol is he just supposed to not try to defend the pass? It's football. These guys get hit. It's a risk you know you're taking when you play, especially over the middle like that.
Blood is boiling? Go touch some grass. It's a game. They get paid a lot of money.
not angry about a game, angry that a good player got hurt because of a careless player.
Get his name right fella.
Treylon is going to be a monster in this league.
Yeah, but AJB for not $100M
I feel like no one talks about how Hurts is the godfather of his kid. It's closest to the Davante Adams situation where AJ wanted to play with his friend. Doesn't hurt that they use his talents better and their strength and conditioning staff seems to be keeping him healthier than ours.
Yea felt kind of nice of the titans for that to work out. Obviously if they made the best deal then it doesn’t have to matter that the titans made that trade to a good fit team for AJ. I’ll be curious to see what happens to the eagles when they pay Hurts. It’s always a little easier to make those big moves when you have your rookie contract QB. Even AJ is on rookie contract money this year.
Yeah, he could be. Then that trade becomes a really smart move by the Titans. Look at the Vikings with Diggs/Jefferson. Didn't have to pay Diggs and still have a top 5 WR for cheaper in Jefferson.
Why so the eagles can just target him to remove him from the game. We have a wr like AJ brown dumbass. He caught a td today.
AJ Brown is top 2 at his position when it comes to success against press, man, and zone. Burks isn't there yet.
Lmao top 2 keep dreaming
The Eagles were out for blood, would have injured AJB if he were on still on the team. Pretty obvious they were comin in dirty today.
Besides the hit from Epps there's nothing they did that was particularly questionable. The Epps hit didn't seem intentionally dirty either, just unfortunate. If you wanna talk dirty maybe talk about Andrew Adams twisting AJB's ankle after a catch
Here I am starting Seahawks like an IDIOT
Trust the process. If you had picked Cleveland (the other matchup based DST) you'd be dancing.
I picked up Seattle this week and my opponent picked up Cleveland. I am also thr victim of being a Henry owner this week. Double whammy!
As was my fantasy team and season
Henry is actually quite prone to this. He needs a LOT of space to get going and if you get to him
in the backfield he lacks the agility to make defenders miss or the momentum to run through them.
If you think that Henry is the problem then you're obviously not watching the games. He's constantly in contact before the line of scrimmage and the secondary is usually stacked with defenders because the Titans have no passing threats other than Burks.
There is not a single RB on the planet that can overcome the Titan's offensive shortcomings.
Yes, I am an angry Titans fan and Derrick Henry owner
I never said "Henry is the problem". Henry is a high end RB. One of the best in the league.
But he's also a guy with extremely pronounced strengths and weaknesses.
The strengths make him absolutely amazing when a play is blocked up reasonably well and he can pick up speed.
The weaknesses make him subpar in situations where defenders get penetration and he's forced to break down and make sharp cuts. Henry has super powers but they get completely negated when he's expected to change direction like he's a normal RB because he isn't one.
They barely use him. No dump offs, no screens, when they rotate him out it’s obvious a pass. Gross shit from the titans it’s football terrorism
It was not the eagles defense it was the titans coaching staff and play calling
Literally I’ve seen when they use him for screens he gets at least 6 or 7 yards and even a touchdown run sometimes if I’m lucky
Didn't he catch and run for like 80 yards last game?
Yes , unfortunately he fumbled at the end but burks picked it up for the td
Yeah it was like 75 yards last week before he fumbled.
What? You think the Titans coaching staff just started sucking at play calling today? They have been the same all season long and Henry had 1000 yards and 10 TD's in 10 games. Today he averaged 2.2 yards per carry and 0 TD's. Give some respect.
Todd Downing is a straight-up jackass with no idea of how to run an NFL Offense.
Horseshit. I was relying on some sort of production from him today. Well, that’ll prob cost me a win this week 😩
Of course they did because I needed them to have a good game.
Jordan Davis got hurt. Suh had 3 tackles alone, dude is a beast coming back and playing up to speed that fast.
Feels like a recurring theme for Henry
Jordan Davis!! Eagles D back at #1 ROS
Titans are cooked
THATS MY DST!!
Unacceptable for him to not get 10 points a week. I’m pissed.
Thankfully my opponent had Lamar.
I have both and lost by 3 points, I'm feeling all the pain
I mean I knew it was gonna be ugly for them but sheesh
This makes zero sense. Less talented RBs destroyed the eagles defense.
Jordan Davis came back this week
He barely played though. Rest of the team stepped up.
They specifically signed Ndamukong Suh and Linval Joseph to address the run D, so it's definitely a lot different than it was a few weeks ago.
We really need stuff like this made more clear
Stuff like this is always posted, this sub just doesn't pay attention. Also, Davis didn't play much, the rest of the team just balled out today.
Titans O line is bad and it almost feels like they’re regretting winning games this season with how they’ve punted on playcalling
Titans have Todd Downing. Bad o-line + shit playcaller = easy day for any competent defense.
Eagles defense has been primarily focused on stopping the pass the majority of the year. Coming into a game with some fresh DTs going up against a bad O line and an offense who is focused on running, it makes sense to shift your defensive game plan to stop the run instead
Titans o line made him a non factor dumb ass
Droppable in all formats
Every king eventually relinquishes his crown. Fantasy football is a game of thrones.
Handed it off to another Alabama RB this year.
And I had them on my bench.
[sorry not sorry](https://i.imgur.com/EgJxOAP.jpg)
As a Henry owner, yea I know.
He runs into a brick wall a lot. Even tho he's a moving brick wall himself.
LOL I made a deal for him at our trade deadline. I am embarrassed to even post what I gave up after today.
Geno Singletary DK Najee
I feel like I shoulda started Eagles D, I started the Seahawks, who looked like shit against the Rams JV squad. I lost by 2.4 and eagles outscored the Seahawks by 4.
Dropped the Eagles d for the Bucs due to the matchup/loss of CJGJ. Glad they shut down Henry.
He had only 38 yards last week too
That's how you win against us. Full stack the box, don't give him anything, and force tannehill to throw. While doing that, throw it yourself because our backfield on defense is dogshit
Watched the game, his largest gain was six yards. Absolutely nothing he could do.
He’ll have greener pastures starting this coming big week
Eagles are going to be representing the NFC in the Super Bowl. It’s basically Brock Purdy and primetime Cousins in their way
So... Minus the TD against GB... 👑 Henry has been terrible since the Denver game. Are we thinking about sitting him going forward?
You mean, "he's had two dudes against the eagles and the broncos, two of the best defenses, we thinking about benching him for that?"
No, he's the king. Jax, LAC, Houston? Absolutely start with confidence.
Derrick Henry is average
4 team league?
"FiRe GaNnOn" - clowns in every Eagles gameday thread
(Gannon's the Eagles DC)