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SaskalPiakam

Yeah I'm starting them. JT might run on them, but Matt Ryan looks cooked. He's getting sacked a bunch, turning over the ball, and not scoring many points. JT could go for 20 fantasy points and the Chiefs DST could have a great day. Subvertadown suggesting them as #1 option this week is the cherry on top.


Rob3905

Also, the Colts D has been terrible. If KC jumps out to a huge lead, that could take JT out of the equation


SaskalPiakam

The Gus Bradley effect. Dude stinks.


unrecognized88

This makes alot of sense. I was afraid of JT, but Chiefs going up would mean Indy has to go to the air... Drop Eagles for Chiefs?


dabear51

I'm wondering if that is a glitch on [subvertadown.com](https://subvertadown.com). Why would there be such a discrepancy between Yahoo and ESPN? u/subvertadown, can you enlighten us, oh glorious one?


subvertadown

u/beer_jew got it. The model thinks sacks and turnovers will drive the Chiefs. These things matter more in a format where yards-allowed are not penalized, because the points-allowed is somewhat more random for contributing to fantasy points. In contrast, when yards-allowed matter, models can more easily pick out trends in D/ST scoring.


dabear51

Thanks! I checked out your model info page after I commented and learned that myself. Appreciate sharing the method.


RR-JJ

I have our league D scoring only taking into account fumbles/int/4th down stops/3 & outs. There is no penalty for yards or points. We actually love it...D can only go up, can't back up. I'm assuming we really love the Chiefs this week with our scoring?


Donhergo

Interestingly chiefs are the second best DST in week 3. In week 4 the colts are that good. Chiefs play colts in week 3, Colts play chiefs in week 4. Why would you think that in week 3 chiefs score more, in week 4 colts? There must be some mistake, right?


subvertadown

>Colts play chiefs in week 4 ?


Donhergo

Forget it. I didn't realise that the current matchup is always on the left. I thought that if I clicked on week 4, the corresponding matchup would appear. Sorry.


beer_jew

It depends on if your league settings for defenses have losing points for yards allowed as an option. Basically subvertadown thinks the chiefs can get sacks and interceptions but might allow a bunch of yards. For leagues where yards allowed doesnt matter (yahoo apparently) he loves them but for regular scoring on espn or sleeper he thinks there are better options


SaskalPiakam

I think its because one format accounts for yards allowed. Maybe something else as well I'm not sure.


dabear51

I see that now, ESPN scoring includes yards allowed. And looking again at his model, Chiefs have a better than average interception, sack and fumble recovery rate compared to the rest. They allow a lot of yards, but throw that out and they jump from middle of the league up to first.


we360u45

Where you seeing subvertadown ranking them first? CLE is ranked first and I don’t see KC anywhere on the rankings on his website


Cbonez1

Click yahoo in the corner it defaults to espn scoring


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we360u45

Oh I see, yeah I just use the weekly projections


Traditional_Job_6932

He still has the Chiefs ranked first this week for the Yahoo scoring. You have to click “view full projections” then in the top right, you can choose the platform. He shows ESPN scoring on the homepage which is actually pretty different to Yahoo scoring.


subvertadown

You can toggle which scoring format appears by default on the front. There's a toggle at the bottom.


we360u45

Holy shit I didn’t know that. Damn I’ve been using these wrong for a long time lol


Cbonez1

No it’s weekly but you have to choose your platform


DazHawt

Chiefs are about to tee off


yhetti-fartz

I dunno, lb wiilie gay just got suspended. Id say if pittman doesnt play than kc will be good. If pittman plays than kc might have a hard time in indy.


the-walkingdude

Rather jets dst ...cin o line is terrible


Donhergo

But isn't the jets dst as well? (Serious question, i don't know)


Agastopia

Sauce baby


0mib0ng

Hopefully he’s all good, left with injury last week


Donhergo

Who is that?


0mib0ng

Rookie DB


SolomonGunnEsq

They produced very few pressures and sacks last week but it’s actually a very deep DL. Of course, Lawson is good but he’s not an elite rusher and they rarely call blitzes. But as the other guy said, they have solid corner play with DJ Reed earning PFFs highest cover grade thus far and Sauce and Carter playing really solidly as well. We’ll see how they respond this week but there are definitely both better and worse options.


6gc_4dad

Nope


problematic42069

KC will have >6 sacks in this game


MarkTwang-

Chiefs fan here. We're without McDuffie and Gay for the next handful of games just FYI.


Donhergo

Honestly i don't know them - does it affect the DST massively?


MarkTwang-

Time will tell. However, on paper, yes... big losses. McDuffie is our first round draft pick and Willie Gay is one of young gun linebackers.


Yeerky

They play Indy whose offense was atrocious last week. They could be a strong play, and especially if Michael Pittman remains out.


ClicheCrusader

I'm starting them since I didn't get the Cowboys off waivers.


TheDunglelorian

Cowboys or chiefs this week?


ClicheCrusader

Cowboys


liddle-lamzy-divey

Last I saw, the Colts seem hopeful that Pittman will play.


RR-JJ

Our D scoring is set up for no yards OR points allowed, it can only go up, never down. Chiefs could be a solid play with how it's set up in our league. Sacks/int/4th down stops/3 and out all score points.


unrecognized88

Interesting... Picked up Eagles in my Yahoo league, but Chiefs are available. Anyone else doing it?


Donhergo

I'm starting chiefs over the eagles (both available)


Banx1

Chiefs or Giants this week? Points + yards allowed scoring.


VacationInHell222

I picked them up over the eagles, cowboys, and bengals… this week is a tough decision for streaming but I have a good feeling about the chiefs this week, they had a pretty good outing against an elite offense in LAC too


Annual_Bat_4233

Pick them over saints?


artemis_dong

I wouldn't. Baker against that D seems like it's going to be a turnover fest.


harveydentsleftnut

im starting Chiefs D solely because Matt Ryan is straight hippo shit


makeazerothgreatagn

Worst run D in the league.