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Trade Value Tuesday | So It Begins Edition...

Trade Value Tuesday | So It Begins Edition...

carbintaker

Jonathan Taylor


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Got rejected when I offered Joe Mixon for Jonathan Taylor straight up.


hammerific

Holy shit lol


kev_nu

I mean I think if you were to re-draft right now, knowing the Mack injury and seeing that Rivers will still be checking down 10-15 times a game, I think Taylor and Mixon would probably get drafted pretty close to each other. The big knocks on Taylor were that he was going to start behind Mack and also that rookies are generally unknown commodities. But I tend to think in a redraft now Taylor and Mixon would be drafted in similar tiers. So with that in mind I don't think it's crazy for either side to decline Taylor for Mixon. It seems like a pretty lateral move in either direction. Also, if I'm the Taylor owner in your league I see your offer and think that you must think Taylor is more valuable than Mixon, which is why you're trying to swap. So why would I do that. Generally swapping players of the same position have this same problem. Clearly one team just likes the other player more so why should the other team accept? Maybe if they were a big Bengals fan or you think more risk-adverse and don't want a rookie. But generally, if you're offering me a RB for a RB the trade is not meant to fill a hole on my team, I know it's because you want my RB more. So I usually would come back with your RB + more for my RB. A better way to approach that trade, IMO: Let's say for argument you are weak at WR and this other team is stronger at WR. You offer Mixon + WR3 for Taylor + WR2. This actually makes it seem like you are offering this trade because you believe Mixon is more valuable than Taylor. You can try to make a case that they're upgrading from Taylor to Mixon and downgrading at their strong WR position from a WR2 to WR3. Maybe they bite, maybe not. But I think it's a better starting point because it does not make it clear that you actually do value Taylor above Mixon. And at the same time maybe you can upgrade at WR if they bite. It also let's you feel out how they value Mixon vs. Taylor.


aznhoopster

Offered exactly this but pulled it, may start a negotiation. After the Mack injury, i don't think its far fetched. Rewatched the Jags/Colts game on gamepass and JT looks explosive, he has the athleticism/o-line/opportunity to be a top back. Rewatching the Bengals game too, I like Mixon still but I think his draft capital was high enough still (IMO some people will still take that capital into consideration) to get Taylor out of it. Its a gamble, but I like the upside.


Tyraniboah89

Was this before or after Sunday’s games lol


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After the games, including after Taylor declared week 2 starter.


JohnMcCainsArms

Mixon isn’t really some hot commodity especially after his week 1...


Caliguy331

The 10th overall pick isn’t a hot commodity after 1 game?? Really?


its1992yall

I just threw out a Mixon and Ingram for Hockenson (lost Jarwin) and Taylor feeler. Might try to add on it a little and get Kelce and JT for Mixon, Ingram, Dobbins but that'd leave me a little thin at RB


ICantSpellAnythign

His value is fringe rb1 but I dont think anyone will actually pay that price


dazed_and_coherENT

I was able to trade Chubb for Taylor and Waller right after the news broke. Hoping it doesn’t come back to haunt me but I liked the potential I’m buying into.


eru88

nice i do like that trade.


spidey555

Would you do my Carson for Jonathan Taylor?


evanphox

Owning Taylor I would not just cuz you’ve heard of the potential but I think this is a fair trade.


swordofthemorning18

Taylor owner and he is a strong hold right now.


choff22

Kenyan Drake for Jonathan Taylor?


OakleyTheAussie

I'd prefer Drake, but similar ballpark. SF was a rough week 1 matchup, and he still had a solid line. I get vibes that Arizona is going put up some serious points this year.


JoeyD_813

Also have taylor, was offered Slayton/Hollywood + Carson for him.


spidey555

hmm tempting, I think Slayton will be great all year and Carson will be ok to decent this year


JoeyD_813

its tough getting back a WR cause I also have DJ more, cooper and evans


spidey555

Yeah if you don't need it, then not worth trading


InconnuX

If Mack opted out, Taylor would have had a rush of hype pre-draft settling him around Chubb/Mixon/Drake, its gonna take just as much to get him as any of those guys. Don't think "i'll trade the guy I took in the 3rd round for JT, who was a 4th rounder" is going to get you even in the trading door.


JohnAlt_Alt

I put out a feeler to the Taylor owner offering Godwin and was rebuffed.


swordofthemorning18

This deal all depends on roster construction here.


JohnAlt_Alt

His WR are Lamb, Raegor, Edwards, Renfrow, and Pittman and has Chubb, Taylor, Hines, Lindsay, Robinson and Snell at RB. Start 2 RB, 2 WR and 2 FLEX. He also drafted two TE in the first 3 rounds and finishes at the bottom every year.


Bruce-T-Wayne

That is a seemingly very bad team


AMPduppp

I sent Ekeler and Gallup for him in .5PPR


theeasiestdecision

Wow.


yoyoyogonzo

Came here to see if someone did this too. I traded Ekeler for JT straight up in full PPR


AMPduppp

Had to include Gallup cuz he was weak at WR and I don't like doing 1:1 trades in the same position. Got accepted in minutes


carbintaker

Let us know how it goes


FantasyTrash

I'd say it's hard to determine an appropriate value because we haven't seen a full game of him without Mack.


goberkfell

Traded mahomes for taylor and rodgers


Crema5ter

This is dirty


eru88

If I had Carson I would be trying to trade him for Taylor


_beerbelli

Miles Sanders?


Robot_beepbeep

I'm on the fence of offering Julio for him in hppr. Probably an over pay week 1, but it might be the only time to snag him.


JohnAlt_Alt

That was my logic in offering my WR 1 in Godwin. With Taylor's talent, Indy's O-line and Rivers penchant for peppering RBs with targets I think he'd go top 10 in drafts today.


AllHailLelouch

Traded Fuller + Bell + Crowder for Taylor + Parker + Jeudy


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Offering Carson and Slayton for JT and a bench WR, guy has Michael Thomas


xlastking

I have JT and I now see him locked in as an RB1. He has it all going for him now: talent, opportunity, great o-line, and he’s being targeted in the passing game. I have him ranked as the RB9 behind CMac, Zeke, Saquon, Kamara, Cook, Henry, CEH, and Jacobs. Edit: forgot to include Josh Jacobs. My post has been edited to include him.


bigcloud22

what do you guys think of taylor + kupp for henry


CharizardKing24

Davante Adams


griselpuff

dalvin cook


Cambridge45

Josh Jacobs


rmoney27

Perfect post week one trade haha


Alkash42

Wouldn't accept as Adams owner in .5 PPR. I think Adams will be MT level this season, so take it with a grain of salt.


Dukedevil8675

I actually agree with this take if he stays healthy. I think it would take a ridiculous overpay for me to deal him


BuzzedWoody

As a Josh Jacobs **TRUTHER** (I took him 7th overall) I would not trade him for Adams


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Im sending Drake and Evans, Im loaded at rb and he needs help there.


yessum447

Raheem Mostert


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yessum447

Jesus christ I would take that in an instant.


rayder989

I’m assuming after the injury? I would decline as the Mostert owner. Conners health is just not worth it at all to me. I feel like even if he does play Steelers can’t give him any more than half the touches just to keep him from breaking (my own speculation).


Cambridge45

Hard no imo


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Bell


YoureNotMom

12 team, half ppr: a wet fart in a paper bag


Judging_You

I own wet fart in a paper bag, I'd say no personally.


rmoney27

Adam Gase's thong. But seriously, nothing more than a WR2 or low end RB2/high end RB3. Maybe TY, Diggs, or Gallup. Nyheim Hines or Dobbins maybe.


kim_jong_discotheque

Ya'll sleeping on Bell just a bit. We get he's not an RB1 anymore, that doesn't make him garbage. Dude averaged like 15 ppg in PPR last year outside the 2 weeks he was hurting, and there's no way that he or the Jets could be any worse than they were last year.


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He’s also hurt...


rmoney27

>there's no way that he or the Jets could be any worse than they were last year. They were 7-9 last year. Trust me, it can get way worse.


fastgasblastin

I got offered Bell for Dobbins and said hell no. Idk who would want to deal with Bell on their team at this point


nitraw

i just had one of the more hilarious trades that i've seen. bell for ingram. maybe im the only one who found it hilarious but its such a sideways trade. the ingram owner drafted him in the 2nd round.... and was willing to trade him away after that 1st game. the bell owner ...i dont know what he was thinking. it just seems like a lose lose trade imo.


DontTreadOnMe16

Mark Ingram


ACoolCoconut

Nick Chubb


Fragmented_Logik

I don't think you're getting what you invested so it would have to be for pieces you believe will emerge. He is a very polarizing player. You either think he's a top 5 guy or you think he's capped at RB2 with Hunt there.


nickyno

Chris Carson


FallopianToobs

Just traded away carson for A Jones


ConvolutedBoy

wowwwww, good on you


troglodyte

Strongly considering Juju for Carson. Haven't decided yet, but I'm strong at RB and worried about WR.


nickyno

Juju looked pretty good with Big Ben back. May be worth pivoting for you if you're weak at WR.


troglodyte

Agreed-- and I think the range is about right. Juju clearly outperformed his ADP and Carson was a bit better than expected. Edit: pulled the trigger. As long as one of Kelley, RoJo, Robinson work out I'm golden.


toolazytodie

Joe Mixon


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if you're the owner of Mixon, you're going to get trash offers for him based on his week 1 performance. IMO, it's not worth trading him unless you're on the receiving end and can fleece the Mixon owner.


toolazytodie

For sure I agree, I just wanted to see roughly where Mixon is valued this week.


doogie1993

I offered Amari Cooper for him personally, guy is considering it


Loincloth_COYS

Just sent Carson + Hunt for Mixon if you want a data point


tigermed

Just traded Carson to get Mixon. Feel like a bandit.


Slayyjayy

Diontae Johnson


soccerfreak11448

Just got him and chase edmonds for Jamison Crowder in a 14 team .5 ppr


BuzzedWoody

This is a great trade for you and why depth is so important in deep leagues


brenthead

David Johnson


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Got rejected when I offered Joe Mixon for David Johnson in 2 leagues. Also got rejected when I offered Austin Ekeler for David Johnson.


[deleted]

would much rather have mixon


iBleeedorange

Why?


introspectivebrownie

This is unbelievable lol. That guy is a huge DJ homer but DJ Should have a huge role all season long until injury


tdpdcpa

Funny, I offered our Mixon owner DJ and got rejected. 12 Team, Superflex, .5 PPR.


onewhoknocks123

Jk Dobbins


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BuzzedWoody

Did you fuck his wife too?


onewhoknocks123

I know aj brown underperformed but its crazy to me that dobbins has a higher value than him...


ColeWorld7

Todd Gurley


soccerspaz77

Calvin Ridley


Zaxl

Think this is a decent gauge of his value. You got people on both sides saying yes/no.


Alkash42

Gurley owner. Love Ridley but no way.


nnthing

George Kittle


Sn0rlax-

I just traded away Kittle for Calvin Ridley and Cam Akers


GhostfaceNoah

Not a fan of that trade for you.


rhin0c3r0s

James Conner


nchscferraz

He's a hold. No one is touching him outside of a RB3 (Nyheim Hines) or something.


BiffWebster115

Malcolm Brown


MGoBlooo

The two others are way off base. More likely a WR3 like Slayton/Marvin Jones/Gallup


insertnamehere255

As a slayton owner I'd probably accept a trade for malcolm brown if I needed a RB


Syndicate_III

Was offered Slayton and I’m going to accept. Was originally going to offer him to the Mack owner for his Tyler Boyd but I’d be shocked if he accepts


Soouch

JuJu smith schuster


rat_slayer

James White


kzanomics

Bag of chips


rhin0c3r0s

Miles Sanders


gatorrrays

Just got Jonathan Taylor for him


Dallasr26

Terry mclaurin


RipCity56

Michael Gallup


Xeosphere

Mike Evans


Alkash42

TY Hilton


sanders04

Calvin Ridley


GoofyGreen-d

These responses had better be joking, he’s still #2 behind Julio. Maybe by week 8 he’ll be worth an RB1 but not after 1 game.


Cambridge45

Not at all, when Ridley gets 7+ targets he’s almost always performed as a wr1. That falcons defense looks just as terrible as advertised. And there’s no Austin hooper now to take targets away.


onewhoknocks123

I watched the whole game and as a ridley owner, I'm looking to sell him high. A lot of people here says there's no Austin hooper to take away targets but I think russel gage will take away some of it instead.


Cadet_Broomstick

Any thoughts on Hursts usage? couldn't catch the game


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He made an incredible full extension diving catch. I think he will be a big part of the passing game. He played a very high % of snaps and he's super talented. Matty Ice loves his TEs. I'm a Falcons homer so take it with a grain of salt.


bloena01

Austin Ekeler


bolan-nork

Hold on ekeler his value is way too low after last week. He’ll touch the ball more once tyrod Taylor gets benched for Herbert (which he should)


funnyboy771

Maybe thielan/godwin/moore? Its gonna be hard to get good value out of him after his week 1 usage


Cambridge45

No way theilen or Godwin would get offered for ekeler imo. Maybe djm


Hmm_would_bang

As a thielan owner, no way. Not after week 1 stat line.


peoples_champion99

No way would I trade Thielen for Ekeler


ineedafuckingname

He got 19 carries, just saying. That's great volume and volume leads to production. Ekeler owners should probably hold steady for now, spend a waiver on Kelley for insurance, but no reason to panic at an RB getting 19 carries.


provocatives

Courtland Sutton


introspectivebrownie

Absolute hold. Broncos offense looks good and he should be the clear #1 after yesterday's performances. Sutton --- > Fant --- > Jeudy / Gordon


CameronAwesome

aaron jones?


wesawthesky

Mark Andrews


GOATJames_23-6

Hold. He's another big performance away from kicking down the door into the kittle/kelce tier


brooklyn-_-nets

Dallas Goedert


Jallen5252

Keenan Allen


JohnAlt_Alt

Was traded for Malcom Brown and Tevin Coleman in my 14 team PPR


Shyam_d

OBJ


bouds19

I think you're best bet is to hold. Baltimore has elite corners and his value is likely as low as it's going to be all season right now. With that being said, if you must trade him, I'd aim for someone like A-Rob, DK, or Moore.


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Ty Hilton I had woods over obj in my draft. No way I'd ever trade for him.


aaron8781

James Robinson


Hungryhungryhoover

Was offered AJ Brown. Didnt need another wr, but couldnt say no either.


redeemer47

Evan Engram


zootiekaterr

Mark Ingram


Econ_Ramblings

Got offered Fuller + moss for him in ppr (which I'm taking). Dont think the value is that bad yet, just cause of his name value


biggoysdontcry

One week away from waiver wire fodder


TedBrosby

I think a lot of people are being a little quick to dismiss Ingram. He didn’t look great but aside from falling into the endzone twice it wasn’t like Dobbins went off. I see this being a messy situation where some weeks Ingram is getting in the end zone and some will be Dobbins. Both flex options but neither necessarily pulling away and Gustaf Edwards still getting some work.


TheGreyt

Dobbins was good, even laid down a nice block for Jackson on a run but Ingram will have his games.


Satyre90

im trying desperately to trade him lol


deepfriednarwhals

Will Fuller V


urbanK07

Zach Ertz


RecklessWiener

Gonna try and move him while he still has name value - I think goedert is the guy moving forward. I’m trying like hell to package ertz + woods for an upgrade at wr or ertz + carson for an upgrade at rb.


toolazytodie

Carson had a monster game, so selling makes sense however I don't think it'll be worth it. Carson seems to be the guy in the backfield and 6 targets doesn't hurt either.


urbanK07

DK Metcalf


nickyno

Lockett in PPR Gurley


AquaticAvocado

Melvin Gordon


jake_van9829

Kareem Hunt


introspectivebrownie

I have a hard time parting with him. He's valuable and will skyrocket if Chubb's hurt.


jake_van9829

You think he has a safe enough floor to be a weekly flex play?


kyoto_magic

Sammy Watkins


Hawkeye76

Don't believe the week 1 Sammy hype. lol I got caught with it last year


LAXbro___

Sell high right now he does this every year.


Iknowwecanmakeit

Michael Thomas


ariaztlan

I got offered Aaron Jones, Swift and Julian Edelman for him. My Rb 2 is LeVeon. My WRs are Sutton, Diggs, Lamb, Reagor.


Iknowwecanmakeit

you declined?


ariaztlan

I’m on the fence. I haven’t pulled the trigger.


Iknowwecanmakeit

Who else do you have at RB? I’d be tempted for sure.


D4rkd3str0yer

Amari Cooper


urbanK07

Jared Cook


Robot_beepbeep

Pretty large beneficiary if Michael Thomas has a lingering injury. With that said, Cook doesn't really have any trade value yet.


FutureK0G

Hynes?


buckeye-x

He was traded for Josh Allen in my 0.5PPR league this morning


brooklyn-_-nets

Josh Allen


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mlkemlke

Darren Waller


Stombie8

MT


ImSkelet0r

His value is tanked right now due to his still “undisclosed” ankle injury. People will lowball for him but until something conclusive comes out he’s still a WR1 in my eyes.


Grizz_Daddy

Aaron Jones


bluntforce21

Would Mixon be a fair deal?


timy0215

I say it’s decent, but these may be two of the players with the farthest difference of opinion from person to person.


RonnieDowdy

Cam Newton


bluntforce21

Jerrick McKinnon


bluntforce21

Cam Akers


screaming-minks

Clyde Edwards-Helaire


foundboots

Don't sell. You're not gonna get enough back for him now... and that's after 25/138/1. You have an opportunity to own a fantasy cheat code. If I'm thinking about value, it's gonna *hurt* to buy. I'm *expecting* an overpay.


neuervolyer

Travis Kelce


Martinda1

Kelce


court_cymro

Antonio Gibson!


1000Isand1

Dallas Goedert


brooklyn-_-nets

Henry Ruggs


WarmFigNewton

George Kittle


magikraps

Chris Godwin


Remote-Mirror4386

Jonathan taylor or Chris Carson ppr


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thedictator69

corey davis


insertnamehere255

Anthony Miller


Remote-Mirror4386

Robert Woods


bouds19

D.J. Chark


GBKK99

Jamison Crowder


Xaramian

James Robinson