Ezra interviewed Patrick Deneen a while back, and I think everyone found the interview pretty dissatisfying.
I came across another interview of Deneen today on Bari Weiss' podcast "Honestly". Its a sort of debate between Deneen and Brett Stephens. TBH, I'm not more than half way in, but the dialog is much more engaging. It reminds me more of the Deneen interview that Russ Roberts did years ago that sparked my interest in Deneen.
I personally find Deneen to be an interesting, challenging thinker. So far, Stephens is offering him a challenging debate. I'd encourage open-minded listeners of the EKS to give it a shot.
By - hopAlongLilDoggie