First, I want to thank you for your post. As a writer and a software engineer, I'm fascinated by this technology. I can see why artists are upset: it's a threat their livelihood, and that shouldn't be taken lightly. Unless thoughtful laws are established soon, I don't see any way to fight against this tide.
I don't know how things will turn out, but I worry it will go the way of pottery. In early civilizations, all pottery was handcrafted. Today, handcrafted pottery exists and so do potters, but most pottery is a commodity.
> Commodity: *noun.* Undifferentiated goods characterized by a low profit margin, as distinguished from branded products.
That's kind of sad and I hope it doesn't turn out that way, but if it does, maybe there's a silver lining I'm not seeing.
Having said all that, I'm going to do a complete 180 and say I think these are excellent and *ethical* usages of AI:
1. Helping with ideas when you’re stuck (This one's your idea.)
2. Giving you new ideas of directions to move the story in (This one's your idea.)
3. Coming up with a premise (This one's my own.)
4. Line editing your own work (This one's my own.)
I have no shame in asking another human for help when I face these challenges. Is that considered *cheating*? Am I an imposter if I collaborate in any way? I don't think so, and I don't think it suddenly becomes unethical if I ask a computer instead of a human.
None of my opinions are strongly held. This is such a new technology (one I haven't even used yet), everything said is built on top a foundation of assumptions.
Thanks again for your post.
This is such a great comparison!! Just like everyday pottery there's nothing necessary *wrong* with AI art/writing but you can pretty clearly tell that it lacks the care of something handmade
I tend to agree, but at the same time I think it's important that people see how ultimately self-defeating it is to try and produce content this way. So many pitfalls, not the least of which is inadvertent plagiarism, which is why you shouldn't trust the 'ideas'. We're a long way from software that can produce original fiction that doesn't take longer to edit than if it was written from scratch by a human.
There are no shortcuts, y'all.
I respectfully agree with u/YourSmutSucks. I don't believe content about/advocating AI has a place here. This is a sub called 'eroticAUTHORS'. Not EroticContentCreators.
Like I said above, in principle I agree. I don't think AI will ever create content that compares to the most creative and adept human author. The best I think will ever happen in our lifetime is the entertainment equivalent of a DVD bargain bin at a gas station. If we ever teach machines to have emotion and imagination, and to understand the context of both, we're going to have problems way beyond unassailable competition.
That said, the AI being shopped around at the moment isn't AI. It's not even AI-adjacent. It's just a huge collection of data that relies entirely on human intelligence and imagination (in the form of data categorization on the back end and prompts on the front end) to construct resulting output based on the relationship of the words in the prompt with the words in the dataset. It "learns" via the prompts how to create more relevant relationships to the data, which in turn provides more relevant results. But it never learns the context of the prompts on a micro level, like how the results might not be anything close to what the user intended or needs, or the macro level, like the ethical implications of what it's producing.
At the moment, it's a software tool like any other software tool. But it's not a particularly useful one. Fun to play around with, and great when I need to ask my phone a question or when a company needs very basic marketing content, but I'm not going to waste my valuable time trying to write a novel with it, or even a short story.
Ultimately I feel limiting discussion of the topic would simply drive the curious elsewhere, and they wouldn't have the relevant experience of folks who have been in business for awhile to point out the pitfalls. Plus squashing it makes it seem like we're somehow afraid of it (like our livelihoods are somehow on the line), and nothing could be further from the truth. We just give up the option to help steer the car if we're willing to take our hands off the wheel.
Then we should not allow any discussion of ghostwriting, or writing prompts. Neither of which is someone producing their own content.
I hate discussion of AI. It's all over other forums, usually as a side way of getting people to check out sites and potentially spend money that benefits whoever posted it.
I'm fine if the mods delete all of this.
I want to use AI to create funny and intense Spanking storys, so I really like this way. I would use this only for myself or for sharing the story later with other Fans.
And everything else.
It gives you ideas? If you can't get your own, it's time to find something else to do.
It gives plot alternatives? Yep. Time to find something else to do.
It expands creativity? Again. You need another hobby, career or daydream topic.
I'm speaking in a general "you", not specifically anyone. Other than the OP, maybe.
For the record, I'm not threatened by this AI hype. And it is hype. People want to sell you some magic beans to make you a better writer. It's not going to work. Study, practice and talent make you a better writer.
I'd bet a silver ounce you began as a short-story erotica turn and burn act in the beginning, writing as many shorts as you could produce per month in order to game the mathematics without much regard for story quality, or taking your time. Prove me wrong.
You're probably not going to get too much interest from real writers who enjoy their craft, and more than likely they're just going to be annoyed. For a lot of creatives who've put in the hard work, AI is more threatening than interesting.
If some untalented hack can just make AI-generated stories and sell them (And trust me they will), it's eventually going to saturate the market until writing is no longer a viable career path once others get wind of the idea. Look at what happened with low content books, it's full of lazy or talentless opportunists stealing others' work to try to make a quick buck. I refuse to use AI solely because I'm not going to give it *more* content to train itself on, and besides I actually enjoy the process of figuring things out.
All that said I don't blame people for using AI, like Grammarly and ProWritingAid are AI writing assistants. I'd think it was super cool and useful if the majority of us didn't live in a crony capitalistic society lol
> I refuse to use AI solely because I'm not going to give it more content to train itself on
On principle, I get this. Unfortunately (and terrifyingly) I don't think that has any effect: I think the inputs used in these AIs are copyrighted works. For all you know, your stuff is already scanned and used without your permission.
Personally, I feel like if you need to use A.I. to write or spruce up a story... You probably shouldn't be writing in the first place. Or at least do some research/personal practise into how you can better improve on your own writing (in terms of idea generation, for example).
I feel like that’s kind of gatekeeping. If what you make in the end is satisfying to you then why does it matter how you got there?
If a composer writes his scores on a computer rather then on parchment, it doesn’t make the music any less beautiful.
I'm not sure I understand the composer analogy. Sure, the mediums are different, but the notes of the music are the same. The notes come from the mind of the composer, just like the words come from the mind of the writer.
The use of A.I. just seems unauthentic and exploitative to me. Doesn't A.I. generate media that is accumulated from a variety of already existing sources? So... Plagiarism? I dunno, that doesn't really sound beautiful at all.
> Plagiarism?
Yes, it is. AI isn't thinking of new things, it's gathering up things that are already created and mashing it together. It's theft, outright.
Yeah fair that was a bad analogy on my part.
But it’s a conman misconception that it can only plagiarise / spit out stuff it’s learned.
The easiest way to see this for yourself - dream up an image that is extremely extremely unlikely to exist (e.g. “a monkey wearing a sombrero eating a doughnut as a medival tapestry” or something to that effect) and you’ll get an infinite number of variations of an image that has never existed before.
It may use some tropes that are derivative (but who doesn’t).
Also sorry I think my comment came off more combative then it was supposed to lol (it’s before my morning coffee)
Except, the conductor isn't having AI do the score, he's just using another medium to get it out there.
Personally, I don't care if people who aren't artists or creators are going to be all over with their stolen junk (AI takes things that belong to other creators and crams it all together, it doesn't actually make new things). In the end, we'll settle it out and people will win.
The day we make computers that can create true art is the day we see Skynet and a short time later the day we'll be on the way out. You may think I need a new tinfoil hat, but we're being deliberately phased out in favor of robotic workers (who are merely running programs, not thinking on their own).
Once we humans, the general population, have no real place in the world, what do you think happens? We all get a nice basic income and take up pinochle? Keep on with that thought. You'll be toast before you realize it.
I wanted to use it only for fun, I am a hobby artist in 3D, writing storys was never my thing for Spanking stuff. As Teenie did I like to write Harry Potter fanfictions, but not very good...
I like to ask the bot "how would you punish him, describe the scene in details", because I love to get entertained from the imagination of a other person.
And because Spanking isn't something that many likes, its for me a good way, to write it with a machine.
So, it's better to get some junk you have to edit, rather than just writing the story yourself. You could be learning how to be a better writer, rather than spending time, effort and money on something that isn't going to give you a usable product.
Oh, well. Looking for magical solutions to get around the work of writing seems to be the thing these days. Nice dream.
If you need to lean on an AI, you're not a writer yet. Learn, put in the work, and hone your craft. It's not gatekeeping to say someone using AI isn't actually writing their story. It's fact. I think almost anyone would agree is that one of the most basic tenets of being a writer is that the story comes out of the writer's head -- whether it's good, bad, or in between. If you're not doing the writing, you're not a writer.
We all have parts of the writing we struggle through. Sometimes writing the minor, "connective tissue" of a story is a slog, but a real writer pushes through and figures it out.
Not justifying AI in any way (I hate where it's leading us) but the whole point is that people who AREN'T artists or writers now have a hack to create fast, voluminous content which they can market and sell. It's about profit with least up front investment. Saturating the market will take on a whole new meaning when more people catch on to how much of the heavy lifting AI can do. Content - Covers - Blurbs - Titles - social media posts.
The real dark side...will readers/buyers care if the content they crave is churned out by AI "creators" or by old fashioned human beings who worked at it and got good at it?
I understand the benefits of it. I'm just saying using it doesn't make one a writer. If that's what you're doing you're moving product, you're not writing. It's no different than buying mass-produced crap from Asia and telling it on Etsy.
I \*think\* I can generally tell when I read an article generated by AI, but I've probably missed it too. If AI can turn out a stroke story that hits all the right notes, those readers will not care. Which is bad news for people who churn out quick shorts. I write longer form, novellas to novels, which is harder for an AI to do, for now.
I'll admit, I'd happily turn blurb writing over to an AI. 🤣
> I *think* I can generally tell when I read an article generated by AI
I know I can. It's all over the web, endless articles full of repetition and SEO phrases that make no sense at all. Many of these "blogs" or article sites are nothing but computer generated content that gives no answers or enlightens anyone.
It's gotten to the point I barely use the web for research anymore, unless it's a topic that isn't currently a "hot" one. I might have to start going back to the library (I'm virtual now, but everything isn't online yet). I'll have to start leaving the house and interacting with people again. Urgh.
I've been on dreampress too. For some reason I want it to write the same story I did. It's not happening.
Concerning the image generator, it's just too limited for me. Sexual terms are blocked. Seems to be common in most I've found online but I think it's strange for this one because it's linked to an erotic AI.
Does anybody know of an image-generating AI that doesn't have these limitations？
I struggled at the start to get it write what I want. For me the key was editing the description title and tags to get it working well but it was a bit of a skill
In terms of the image gen, I think a lot of these sites are worried about what you could make (illegal stuff) so they just block it all. You could try running your own image generator but it’s kind of hard - have a look at some diffusion subreddits
Stable Diffusion can do erotic imagery, but it's technical and requires time to learn. There's definitely a learning curve, unlike other A.I. image generators.
Easy Diffusion will run off your own graphics card (Nvidia, preferably) and so has no censured terms since it's running off your own computer. It will generate a wide variety of erotic imagery. Look up the various breast-related LoRA on Civitai, those work with Easy Diffusion. Has trouble doing more than one person at a time, but that's true of AI in general. But it can render near photorealistic results if you work at it a bit.
I’ve seen AI used for corporate work and copy that needs a rigorous spec (basically a machine writing for a machine) but for erotica I do have a lot of doubt whether it’s actually writing or just heavy editing of machine-generated text.
Either way, I hope you find the market that finds your work acceptable.
I love to create spanking storys, my main problem there, I want to write it like this:
So I raise the paddle over my head and come down almost as hard as I can. WHAP! Steve flinches hard and lets out a little moan. "Ohhhhh!" I know it hurt him and he is trying not to show it.WHAP! "Uhhhhh" WHAP! "Eeeeee" WHAP! "Ow ow ohhhhh" WHAP! "Eeeeeeeee"WHAP! "OW OW OW OW" WHAP! "OW OW OW WAAAAA" WHAP! "AHHHH OHHHHHH"
When I explain the AI to write "SMACK" 10x, he write "And the spanking happend, every time came a SMACK, this happend 10 times"... instead of writing 10x SMACK SMACK SMACK...
Next one, combining it to finetune it, that after 2-3 hits a body reaction should come + a verbal reaction.
Its... really complicated to explain to the bot\^\^... especially that he have to write the sounds multiple times and not just "it was 20x".
Thank you this is incredibly helpful : )
I always have such great ideas floating around in my head but can never seem to put them to paper - self doubt and scary. I much prefer telling a story through youtube shipping. But I'm writing my stories with the help of an AI app and it's been brilliant.
I do have one question though - My AI app is caller AI Chatbox - it refuses to write about anything sexual and I was hoping to find a way around it somehow. (Never good with writing sex scenes!!) It's an integral part to some stories so please lemme know if you're on an app that doesn't recoil at the mention of sex.
Thank you again! xXx Love and hugs - Danielle x
I use ChatGPT on a PC to help me write this rather *different* sort of erotica, where, well, not sure I want to go there, really. Let's just say that the main character - a slim, young, unassuming lad - finds himself sort-of under the spell of an older, executive-type woman (his new boss) and well, it's all a bit predictable, isn't it? But ChatGPT won't let me use **directly** sexual terms. However, here's where euphemisms can help significantly. And the content ChatGPT will happily submit is quite astounding. Here's an example of a prompt:
**[INSTRUCTIONS] I have a {text} I would like to make changes to. Please generate 4 suggestions of improvements in a teasing feminine style that could be related to the {text}.**
**text = ex:** *"Why, of course I'm happy to share, as long as I can count on a few extra personal favours from you, Mabel. You do give such nice neck rubs, just for starters. There is much we could teach our little protege in the ways of women with women, couldn't we?"*
It had no issue with this as there are no explicit sexual terms. And it ended up giving me:
"Oh, darling Mabel, your proposition is positively intriguing! I'd be more than happy to share my knowledge, but let's not forget the pleasures I seek in return. Those heavenly neck rubs of yours always leave me yearning for more. And speaking of yearning, just imagine the captivating lessons we could impart to our protege about the intoxicating bonds between women. The possibilities are simply irresistible, don't you think?"
"Why, my dearest Mabel, how generous of you to offer! I'd gladly share my secrets, but only if I can count on some extra special personal indulgences from you. Those exquisite neck rubs of yours, for instance, always send shivers down my spine. Now, imagine the delightful teachings we could offer our protege, guiding him into the alluring world of women with women. It would be an enlightening journey, filled with tantalising encounters."
"Oh, Mabel, my darling, you certainly know how to pique my interest! I'd be more than willing to divulge my secrets, but only if I can revel in a few intimate personal favours from you. Your skilled hands, gliding along my neck, have always left me craving more. And when it comes to teaching our protege the art of women with women, my dear, we could create an unforgettable curriculum. Just imagine the pleasure and knowledge that await us."
"My, my, Mabel, your proposition has certainly caught my attention! I'd be delighted to share my wisdom, provided you're willing to grant me some special privileges in return. Those heavenly neck rubs of yours, for instance, never fail to leave me longing for more. As for our protege, imagine the empowering lessons we could impart, teaching him the intricate ways of women with women. It would be a tantalising journey of pleasure and exploration, my dear."
My first thought is the fear that AI is going to take over the writing world is way overblown at this point. Perhaps someday in the far future but not today.
I've tested several to this point and none of them can generate even a short short story that holds together in any kind of coherent and intelligent fashion. Throw in the erotica component and it gets even worse.
The place where I do find it useful. Basically as a tool to get anything down on paper or on the screen. I suffer from what seems to be the common ailment of many authors that they just find it difficult to get started. Looking for the perfect start instead of a start. Using the AI tools gets around this block completely. If I give an AI workable parameters I'm going to get something out of it. Would I get maybe pure drac but it is something. Generally it's something that will be useful to prompt thinking on my own part and I can then start editing and re-editing and rewriting and rewriting. The end result being something so totally unlike what the AI spit out is to be unrecognizable even to me. Yet, it had its roots in an AI prompt. So my creativity coupled with the uninhibited output of the ai.
The challenge I find is more a technical one. Many of the AIS seem to have filters built in to prevent certain kinds of writing. The problem being is they are less than explicit on what their limits are. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be able to set limits. I just like them to make them explicit so I can stop wasting my time with what looks like a good chat engine and find out that I can't talk about anal sex.
The final thought to anyone who is listening and buying into all the fear talk about ai. Don't. Use as a tool to enhance and enable your own creativity. Perhaps someday AI will produce something at can't be recognized as being from an AI but that's a long way away.
Absolutely, this! I can remember years ago, the same panic peculated over the internet - "it's going to destroy life as we know it!" - and yeah, didn't happen, did it? Sure, things are crazy different, but **destroy**?
I'm using ChatGPT in this manner. I already have storyline, plot-development ideas (twists and turns), characters (outline form, added to as the story develops)... all this without AI. Where AI comes in is my actual writing. I write what exactly I sort-of want to say, but say awkwardly, because, well, I'm not a wordsmith by any means. I ask ChatGPT to essentially polish up my writing. Mostly I'll do this with exposition, not dialogue, but from time to time even dialogue can be enhanced a bit to sound more like the character I had in mind. I like AI to be verbose, as it gives me a lot of material to massage... I *never* leave what the bot gives me untouched.
Will I ever publish? It's doubtful. My plot development is, at the moment, a bit too predictable. But it's ever so much fun to be writing!
I do not write short-story erotica. However, I've had fun toying with ChatGPT. I'm interested in just how dark AI is willing to go before it crosses one of it's programmed-ethical lines, very similar to just how dark some erotic authors love to attempt before Amazon kicks 'em. Still toying for sure, it's been fun.
For some reason, for dreampress, I've found that if I log in at midnight I can just keep hitting collect daily reward, and it will let me collect hundreds of coins. It's tedious, and it's only allowed me to do it from midnight to around 12:30, but it significantly increases your ability to use the site without having to pay for it.
I don't know if it'll work for everyone, but I'd recommend giving it a try.
Dreampress does mess up sometimes, and sometimes it just comes up with random crap, but it's certainly a neat tool that I'd recommend trying.
I struggle writing erotica and smut sometimes, and it's not really something that I can pass off to friends and family and ask "hey what do you think should happen next? Does this flow well?", and i struggle to draw the scenes out, so using ai is helpful.
However, as some people have pointed out, and as many artists are complaining about right now, I don't think it should be relied on to write a whole story for you.
I perceive text AIs more as a game, I quickly realized that a system composed of algorithms is hardly going to replace human imagination. Of course for some marketing things it can bring certain things, that the creative should spend some time to refine with his work.
I've been playing with chatgpt and it's amazing the pamphlet garbage it spews out. I did it out of idleness and a certain curiosity to see how far it could go, in fact, I caused it to short-circuit continuously, since I made approaches to be a company that developed advertising shorts, from there I began to manipulate certain parameters so that it would admit and analyze some of my texts.
At times the AI would forget about its inclusive pamphlet issues and all that bullshit, this made me realize that possibly a lot of the junk content that people complain about in movies and TV series, is being generated with these AIs. It's noticeable right away.
My work as a writer of erotic stories, won't be very prominent, I'm a random unknown who combines certain light fetish elements with surreal scenarios and stories. One thing I also realized is how quickly programmers are bent on blocking anything free that poses a threat to their pamphlet of political correctness.
I wanted to mask some female exhibitionism in a marketing campaign, for a few hours I was playing to invent situations based on old commercials, in order to make a parody and entertain my curiosity about this new technology. After a while, if there wasn't a short circuit in the AI, it suddenly told me that the conversation was too long and to start a new one.
I tried as an alternative one of those recommended at the beginning of this thread. Called dreampress, I pretty much saw that its logic is focused for anyone looking to touch themselves with something easy and without much elaboration. Which proves what many of us here think about the usefulness of using our imagination.
I personally give the AI a lot of slack because I actually enjoy the computer trying to set the scene and or make eroticism with its databases. ITS KIND OF HOT.
I feel like this post got a lot of hate for no reason. Erotica shorts are a product, and you're all entrepreneurs. If you're not treating it like a business, then you're not going to make any money. I think OP is using the tools available to help expedite a process, and it's totally fine. Everyone acting butt hurt over AI assistance are people unwilling to change with the tides of time.
I also hated the idea. For months I wrote on Medium on a daily basis - usually only for a few $ having to hope being lucky for that "big hit". It burns out after a while. Meanwhile others mass produce Blog articles with little effort (back then it was Jasper still, I think).
Even if you are a somewhat skilled writer, AI + editing is simply much faster. Same happens as with translating few years ago.
I once earned my money doing translations. Now, there is DeepL. Only proofreading is needed today. Anything else is a waste of time.
Whether we like it or not, there hardly is a way around. It's just a matter of time.
I am not monetizing any AI blogs now (and never have), but it will be standard at some point. No doubt.
I tried using dreampress and pirr, but both give me the same trouble. It generate way more than I want. I just need a scene, but it generate all the context for it, and the unnecessary context is like 3 pages long. It would be the best if I can just write the hot scene myself and ask it to add some details and make it more hot. Is there any AI that you know of that can do so?
First, I want to thank you for your post. As a writer and a software engineer, I'm fascinated by this technology. I can see why artists are upset: it's a threat their livelihood, and that shouldn't be taken lightly. Unless thoughtful laws are established soon, I don't see any way to fight against this tide. I don't know how things will turn out, but I worry it will go the way of pottery. In early civilizations, all pottery was handcrafted. Today, handcrafted pottery exists and so do potters, but most pottery is a commodity. > Commodity: *noun.* Undifferentiated goods characterized by a low profit margin, as distinguished from branded products. That's kind of sad and I hope it doesn't turn out that way, but if it does, maybe there's a silver lining I'm not seeing. Having said all that, I'm going to do a complete 180 and say I think these are excellent and *ethical* usages of AI: 1. Helping with ideas when you’re stuck (This one's your idea.) 2. Giving you new ideas of directions to move the story in (This one's your idea.) 3. Coming up with a premise (This one's my own.) 4. Line editing your own work (This one's my own.) I have no shame in asking another human for help when I face these challenges. Is that considered *cheating*? Am I an imposter if I collaborate in any way? I don't think so, and I don't think it suddenly becomes unethical if I ask a computer instead of a human. None of my opinions are strongly held. This is such a new technology (one I haven't even used yet), everything said is built on top a foundation of assumptions. Thanks again for your post.
Thank you for your comments and thoughts.
This is such a great comparison!! Just like everyday pottery there's nothing necessary *wrong* with AI art/writing but you can pretty clearly tell that it lacks the care of something handmade
This is bad, actually. Not taking further questions. Just a statement of strong disagreement in this content being on this sub.
I tend to agree, but at the same time I think it's important that people see how ultimately self-defeating it is to try and produce content this way. So many pitfalls, not the least of which is inadvertent plagiarism, which is why you shouldn't trust the 'ideas'. We're a long way from software that can produce original fiction that doesn't take longer to edit than if it was written from scratch by a human. There are no shortcuts, y'all.
I respectfully agree with u/YourSmutSucks. I don't believe content about/advocating AI has a place here. This is a sub called 'eroticAUTHORS'. Not EroticContentCreators.
Like I said above, in principle I agree. I don't think AI will ever create content that compares to the most creative and adept human author. The best I think will ever happen in our lifetime is the entertainment equivalent of a DVD bargain bin at a gas station. If we ever teach machines to have emotion and imagination, and to understand the context of both, we're going to have problems way beyond unassailable competition. That said, the AI being shopped around at the moment isn't AI. It's not even AI-adjacent. It's just a huge collection of data that relies entirely on human intelligence and imagination (in the form of data categorization on the back end and prompts on the front end) to construct resulting output based on the relationship of the words in the prompt with the words in the dataset. It "learns" via the prompts how to create more relevant relationships to the data, which in turn provides more relevant results. But it never learns the context of the prompts on a micro level, like how the results might not be anything close to what the user intended or needs, or the macro level, like the ethical implications of what it's producing. At the moment, it's a software tool like any other software tool. But it's not a particularly useful one. Fun to play around with, and great when I need to ask my phone a question or when a company needs very basic marketing content, but I'm not going to waste my valuable time trying to write a novel with it, or even a short story. Ultimately I feel limiting discussion of the topic would simply drive the curious elsewhere, and they wouldn't have the relevant experience of folks who have been in business for awhile to point out the pitfalls. Plus squashing it makes it seem like we're somehow afraid of it (like our livelihoods are somehow on the line), and nothing could be further from the truth. We just give up the option to help steer the car if we're willing to take our hands off the wheel.
Completely agree 👍🏾
Then we should not allow any discussion of ghostwriting, or writing prompts. Neither of which is someone producing their own content. I hate discussion of AI. It's all over other forums, usually as a side way of getting people to check out sites and potentially spend money that benefits whoever posted it. I'm fine if the mods delete all of this.
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I want to use AI to create funny and intense Spanking storys, so I really like this way. I would use this only for myself or for sharing the story later with other Fans.
> WHAT IT SUCKS AT Writing erotica
And everything else. It gives you ideas? If you can't get your own, it's time to find something else to do. It gives plot alternatives? Yep. Time to find something else to do. It expands creativity? Again. You need another hobby, career or daydream topic. I'm speaking in a general "you", not specifically anyone. Other than the OP, maybe. For the record, I'm not threatened by this AI hype. And it is hype. People want to sell you some magic beans to make you a better writer. It's not going to work. Study, practice and talent make you a better writer.
I'd bet a silver ounce you began as a short-story erotica turn and burn act in the beginning, writing as many shorts as you could produce per month in order to game the mathematics without much regard for story quality, or taking your time. Prove me wrong.
You're probably not going to get too much interest from real writers who enjoy their craft, and more than likely they're just going to be annoyed. For a lot of creatives who've put in the hard work, AI is more threatening than interesting. If some untalented hack can just make AI-generated stories and sell them (And trust me they will), it's eventually going to saturate the market until writing is no longer a viable career path once others get wind of the idea. Look at what happened with low content books, it's full of lazy or talentless opportunists stealing others' work to try to make a quick buck. I refuse to use AI solely because I'm not going to give it *more* content to train itself on, and besides I actually enjoy the process of figuring things out. All that said I don't blame people for using AI, like Grammarly and ProWritingAid are AI writing assistants. I'd think it was super cool and useful if the majority of us didn't live in a crony capitalistic society lol
> I refuse to use AI solely because I'm not going to give it more content to train itself on On principle, I get this. Unfortunately (and terrifyingly) I don't think that has any effect: I think the inputs used in these AIs are copyrighted works. For all you know, your stuff is already scanned and used without your permission.
Personally, I feel like if you need to use A.I. to write or spruce up a story... You probably shouldn't be writing in the first place. Or at least do some research/personal practise into how you can better improve on your own writing (in terms of idea generation, for example).
I feel like that’s kind of gatekeeping. If what you make in the end is satisfying to you then why does it matter how you got there? If a composer writes his scores on a computer rather then on parchment, it doesn’t make the music any less beautiful.
I'm not sure I understand the composer analogy. Sure, the mediums are different, but the notes of the music are the same. The notes come from the mind of the composer, just like the words come from the mind of the writer. The use of A.I. just seems unauthentic and exploitative to me. Doesn't A.I. generate media that is accumulated from a variety of already existing sources? So... Plagiarism? I dunno, that doesn't really sound beautiful at all.
> Plagiarism? Yes, it is. AI isn't thinking of new things, it's gathering up things that are already created and mashing it together. It's theft, outright.
Yeah fair that was a bad analogy on my part. But it’s a conman misconception that it can only plagiarise / spit out stuff it’s learned. The easiest way to see this for yourself - dream up an image that is extremely extremely unlikely to exist (e.g. “a monkey wearing a sombrero eating a doughnut as a medival tapestry” or something to that effect) and you’ll get an infinite number of variations of an image that has never existed before. It may use some tropes that are derivative (but who doesn’t). Also sorry I think my comment came off more combative then it was supposed to lol (it’s before my morning coffee)
Except, the conductor isn't having AI do the score, he's just using another medium to get it out there. Personally, I don't care if people who aren't artists or creators are going to be all over with their stolen junk (AI takes things that belong to other creators and crams it all together, it doesn't actually make new things). In the end, we'll settle it out and people will win. The day we make computers that can create true art is the day we see Skynet and a short time later the day we'll be on the way out. You may think I need a new tinfoil hat, but we're being deliberately phased out in favor of robotic workers (who are merely running programs, not thinking on their own). Once we humans, the general population, have no real place in the world, what do you think happens? We all get a nice basic income and take up pinochle? Keep on with that thought. You'll be toast before you realize it.
I wanted to use it only for fun, I am a hobby artist in 3D, writing storys was never my thing for Spanking stuff. As Teenie did I like to write Harry Potter fanfictions, but not very good... I like to ask the bot "how would you punish him, describe the scene in details", because I love to get entertained from the imagination of a other person. And because Spanking isn't something that many likes, its for me a good way, to write it with a machine.
I have tried so much with erotica and romance but it doesn't work yet. It makes so many mistakes it makes me paranoid about plot holes.
So, it's better to get some junk you have to edit, rather than just writing the story yourself. You could be learning how to be a better writer, rather than spending time, effort and money on something that isn't going to give you a usable product. Oh, well. Looking for magical solutions to get around the work of writing seems to be the thing these days. Nice dream.
If you need to lean on an AI, you're not a writer yet. Learn, put in the work, and hone your craft. It's not gatekeeping to say someone using AI isn't actually writing their story. It's fact. I think almost anyone would agree is that one of the most basic tenets of being a writer is that the story comes out of the writer's head -- whether it's good, bad, or in between. If you're not doing the writing, you're not a writer. We all have parts of the writing we struggle through. Sometimes writing the minor, "connective tissue" of a story is a slog, but a real writer pushes through and figures it out.
Not justifying AI in any way (I hate where it's leading us) but the whole point is that people who AREN'T artists or writers now have a hack to create fast, voluminous content which they can market and sell. It's about profit with least up front investment. Saturating the market will take on a whole new meaning when more people catch on to how much of the heavy lifting AI can do. Content - Covers - Blurbs - Titles - social media posts. The real dark side...will readers/buyers care if the content they crave is churned out by AI "creators" or by old fashioned human beings who worked at it and got good at it?
I understand the benefits of it. I'm just saying using it doesn't make one a writer. If that's what you're doing you're moving product, you're not writing. It's no different than buying mass-produced crap from Asia and telling it on Etsy. I \*think\* I can generally tell when I read an article generated by AI, but I've probably missed it too. If AI can turn out a stroke story that hits all the right notes, those readers will not care. Which is bad news for people who churn out quick shorts. I write longer form, novellas to novels, which is harder for an AI to do, for now. I'll admit, I'd happily turn blurb writing over to an AI. 🤣
> I *think* I can generally tell when I read an article generated by AI I know I can. It's all over the web, endless articles full of repetition and SEO phrases that make no sense at all. Many of these "blogs" or article sites are nothing but computer generated content that gives no answers or enlightens anyone. It's gotten to the point I barely use the web for research anymore, unless it's a topic that isn't currently a "hot" one. I might have to start going back to the library (I'm virtual now, but everything isn't online yet). I'll have to start leaving the house and interacting with people again. Urgh.
Yes! All of this.
I've been on dreampress too. For some reason I want it to write the same story I did. It's not happening. Concerning the image generator, it's just too limited for me. Sexual terms are blocked. Seems to be common in most I've found online but I think it's strange for this one because it's linked to an erotic AI. Does anybody know of an image-generating AI that doesn't have these limitations？
I struggled at the start to get it write what I want. For me the key was editing the description title and tags to get it working well but it was a bit of a skill
All that effort, and you could have just learned to write better.
In terms of the image gen, I think a lot of these sites are worried about what you could make (illegal stuff) so they just block it all. You could try running your own image generator but it’s kind of hard - have a look at some diffusion subreddits
Stable Diffusion can do erotic imagery, but it's technical and requires time to learn. There's definitely a learning curve, unlike other A.I. image generators.
Easy Diffusion will run off your own graphics card (Nvidia, preferably) and so has no censured terms since it's running off your own computer. It will generate a wide variety of erotic imagery. Look up the various breast-related LoRA on Civitai, those work with Easy Diffusion. Has trouble doing more than one person at a time, but that's true of AI in general. But it can render near photorealistic results if you work at it a bit.
I’ve seen AI used for corporate work and copy that needs a rigorous spec (basically a machine writing for a machine) but for erotica I do have a lot of doubt whether it’s actually writing or just heavy editing of machine-generated text. Either way, I hope you find the market that finds your work acceptable.
I love to create spanking storys, my main problem there, I want to write it like this: So I raise the paddle over my head and come down almost as hard as I can. WHAP! Steve flinches hard and lets out a little moan. "Ohhhhh!" I know it hurt him and he is trying not to show it.WHAP! "Uhhhhh" WHAP! "Eeeeee" WHAP! "Ow ow ohhhhh" WHAP! "Eeeeeeeee"WHAP! "OW OW OW OW" WHAP! "OW OW OW WAAAAA" WHAP! "AHHHH OHHHHHH" When I explain the AI to write "SMACK" 10x, he write "And the spanking happend, every time came a SMACK, this happend 10 times"... instead of writing 10x SMACK SMACK SMACK... Next one, combining it to finetune it, that after 2-3 hits a body reaction should come + a verbal reaction. Its... really complicated to explain to the bot\^\^... especially that he have to write the sounds multiple times and not just "it was 20x".
Nice suggestions. This will surely help me a lot since I'm starting to get around with the assistance of AI in my writing. KudoS!
Thank you so much for this amazingly put together instructional!!!
Thank you this is incredibly helpful : ) I always have such great ideas floating around in my head but can never seem to put them to paper - self doubt and scary. I much prefer telling a story through youtube shipping. But I'm writing my stories with the help of an AI app and it's been brilliant. I do have one question though - My AI app is caller AI Chatbox - it refuses to write about anything sexual and I was hoping to find a way around it somehow. (Never good with writing sex scenes!!) It's an integral part to some stories so please lemme know if you're on an app that doesn't recoil at the mention of sex. Thank you again! xXx Love and hugs - Danielle x
I use ChatGPT on a PC to help me write this rather *different* sort of erotica, where, well, not sure I want to go there, really. Let's just say that the main character - a slim, young, unassuming lad - finds himself sort-of under the spell of an older, executive-type woman (his new boss) and well, it's all a bit predictable, isn't it? But ChatGPT won't let me use **directly** sexual terms. However, here's where euphemisms can help significantly. And the content ChatGPT will happily submit is quite astounding. Here's an example of a prompt: **[INSTRUCTIONS] I have a {text} I would like to make changes to. Please generate 4 suggestions of improvements in a teasing feminine style that could be related to the {text}.** **text = ex:** *"Why, of course I'm happy to share, as long as I can count on a few extra personal favours from you, Mabel. You do give such nice neck rubs, just for starters. There is much we could teach our little protege in the ways of women with women, couldn't we?"* It had no issue with this as there are no explicit sexual terms. And it ended up giving me: "Oh, darling Mabel, your proposition is positively intriguing! I'd be more than happy to share my knowledge, but let's not forget the pleasures I seek in return. Those heavenly neck rubs of yours always leave me yearning for more. And speaking of yearning, just imagine the captivating lessons we could impart to our protege about the intoxicating bonds between women. The possibilities are simply irresistible, don't you think?" "Why, my dearest Mabel, how generous of you to offer! I'd gladly share my secrets, but only if I can count on some extra special personal indulgences from you. Those exquisite neck rubs of yours, for instance, always send shivers down my spine. Now, imagine the delightful teachings we could offer our protege, guiding him into the alluring world of women with women. It would be an enlightening journey, filled with tantalising encounters." "Oh, Mabel, my darling, you certainly know how to pique my interest! I'd be more than willing to divulge my secrets, but only if I can revel in a few intimate personal favours from you. Your skilled hands, gliding along my neck, have always left me craving more. And when it comes to teaching our protege the art of women with women, my dear, we could create an unforgettable curriculum. Just imagine the pleasure and knowledge that await us." "My, my, Mabel, your proposition has certainly caught my attention! I'd be delighted to share my wisdom, provided you're willing to grant me some special privileges in return. Those heavenly neck rubs of yours, for instance, never fail to leave me longing for more. As for our protege, imagine the empowering lessons we could impart, teaching him the intricate ways of women with women. It would be a tantalising journey of pleasure and exploration, my dear."
Thank you so much! That's incredibly helpful : )
My first thought is the fear that AI is going to take over the writing world is way overblown at this point. Perhaps someday in the far future but not today. I've tested several to this point and none of them can generate even a short short story that holds together in any kind of coherent and intelligent fashion. Throw in the erotica component and it gets even worse. The place where I do find it useful. Basically as a tool to get anything down on paper or on the screen. I suffer from what seems to be the common ailment of many authors that they just find it difficult to get started. Looking for the perfect start instead of a start. Using the AI tools gets around this block completely. If I give an AI workable parameters I'm going to get something out of it. Would I get maybe pure drac but it is something. Generally it's something that will be useful to prompt thinking on my own part and I can then start editing and re-editing and rewriting and rewriting. The end result being something so totally unlike what the AI spit out is to be unrecognizable even to me. Yet, it had its roots in an AI prompt. So my creativity coupled with the uninhibited output of the ai. The challenge I find is more a technical one. Many of the AIS seem to have filters built in to prevent certain kinds of writing. The problem being is they are less than explicit on what their limits are. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be able to set limits. I just like them to make them explicit so I can stop wasting my time with what looks like a good chat engine and find out that I can't talk about anal sex. The final thought to anyone who is listening and buying into all the fear talk about ai. Don't. Use as a tool to enhance and enable your own creativity. Perhaps someday AI will produce something at can't be recognized as being from an AI but that's a long way away.
Absolutely, this! I can remember years ago, the same panic peculated over the internet - "it's going to destroy life as we know it!" - and yeah, didn't happen, did it? Sure, things are crazy different, but **destroy**? I'm using ChatGPT in this manner. I already have storyline, plot-development ideas (twists and turns), characters (outline form, added to as the story develops)... all this without AI. Where AI comes in is my actual writing. I write what exactly I sort-of want to say, but say awkwardly, because, well, I'm not a wordsmith by any means. I ask ChatGPT to essentially polish up my writing. Mostly I'll do this with exposition, not dialogue, but from time to time even dialogue can be enhanced a bit to sound more like the character I had in mind. I like AI to be verbose, as it gives me a lot of material to massage... I *never* leave what the bot gives me untouched. Will I ever publish? It's doubtful. My plot development is, at the moment, a bit too predictable. But it's ever so much fun to be writing!
Will you be publishing your shorts showcasing AI as a tool at some point?
I do not write short-story erotica. However, I've had fun toying with ChatGPT. I'm interested in just how dark AI is willing to go before it crosses one of it's programmed-ethical lines, very similar to just how dark some erotic authors love to attempt before Amazon kicks 'em. Still toying for sure, it's been fun.
thanks I've been lookingbfor these. do you perhaps have something for writing porn captions?
For some reason, for dreampress, I've found that if I log in at midnight I can just keep hitting collect daily reward, and it will let me collect hundreds of coins. It's tedious, and it's only allowed me to do it from midnight to around 12:30, but it significantly increases your ability to use the site without having to pay for it. I don't know if it'll work for everyone, but I'd recommend giving it a try. Dreampress does mess up sometimes, and sometimes it just comes up with random crap, but it's certainly a neat tool that I'd recommend trying. I struggle writing erotica and smut sometimes, and it's not really something that I can pass off to friends and family and ask "hey what do you think should happen next? Does this flow well?", and i struggle to draw the scenes out, so using ai is helpful. However, as some people have pointed out, and as many artists are complaining about right now, I don't think it should be relied on to write a whole story for you.
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I perceive text AIs more as a game, I quickly realized that a system composed of algorithms is hardly going to replace human imagination. Of course for some marketing things it can bring certain things, that the creative should spend some time to refine with his work. I've been playing with chatgpt and it's amazing the pamphlet garbage it spews out. I did it out of idleness and a certain curiosity to see how far it could go, in fact, I caused it to short-circuit continuously, since I made approaches to be a company that developed advertising shorts, from there I began to manipulate certain parameters so that it would admit and analyze some of my texts. At times the AI would forget about its inclusive pamphlet issues and all that bullshit, this made me realize that possibly a lot of the junk content that people complain about in movies and TV series, is being generated with these AIs. It's noticeable right away. My work as a writer of erotic stories, won't be very prominent, I'm a random unknown who combines certain light fetish elements with surreal scenarios and stories. One thing I also realized is how quickly programmers are bent on blocking anything free that poses a threat to their pamphlet of political correctness. I wanted to mask some female exhibitionism in a marketing campaign, for a few hours I was playing to invent situations based on old commercials, in order to make a parody and entertain my curiosity about this new technology. After a while, if there wasn't a short circuit in the AI, it suddenly told me that the conversation was too long and to start a new one. I tried as an alternative one of those recommended at the beginning of this thread. Called dreampress, I pretty much saw that its logic is focused for anyone looking to touch themselves with something easy and without much elaboration. Which proves what many of us here think about the usefulness of using our imagination.
Can anyone give me any feedback on the erotica I generated?
I personally give the AI a lot of slack because I actually enjoy the computer trying to set the scene and or make eroticism with its databases. ITS KIND OF HOT.
I feel like this post got a lot of hate for no reason. Erotica shorts are a product, and you're all entrepreneurs. If you're not treating it like a business, then you're not going to make any money. I think OP is using the tools available to help expedite a process, and it's totally fine. Everyone acting butt hurt over AI assistance are people unwilling to change with the tides of time.
I also hated the idea. For months I wrote on Medium on a daily basis - usually only for a few $ having to hope being lucky for that "big hit". It burns out after a while. Meanwhile others mass produce Blog articles with little effort (back then it was Jasper still, I think). Even if you are a somewhat skilled writer, AI + editing is simply much faster. Same happens as with translating few years ago. I once earned my money doing translations. Now, there is DeepL. Only proofreading is needed today. Anything else is a waste of time. Whether we like it or not, there hardly is a way around. It's just a matter of time. I am not monetizing any AI blogs now (and never have), but it will be standard at some point. No doubt.
are there any ai you'd reccomend for writing short captions like the ones on sissy porn?
I have written some short erotica but I was looking for a way to write shorter and faster and this post was just what I was looking for. Thank youu!
I tried using dreampress and pirr, but both give me the same trouble. It generate way more than I want. I just need a scene, but it generate all the context for it, and the unnecessary context is like 3 pages long. It would be the best if I can just write the hot scene myself and ask it to add some details and make it more hot. Is there any AI that you know of that can do so?
looking for the same