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Destruktivo

He forces hid players to follow adventurers league rules ... at a home game. For anyone who couldn't read it.


ArSurIlNorBa

Thanks, I'm still downvoting this, I can't forgive someone forcing me to focus that much and still don't be able to read


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OutlandishCat

What? How does this relate to the previous reply? I agree but still…


GormGaming

What are the adventure league rules for hidden players? Edit: I see my misunderstanding now lol


Purple_Bee_8483

Iirc from browsing the DM portion of XGE, in adventure league, players can only use the PHB plus ONE other source book to build their characters. Edit: Just as I posted the comment I noticed that you said "hidden" players, pointing out a typo. How did my brain not acknowledge the existence of a whole word. Still gonna leave this reply here tho, in case anyone else comes to the comments uncertain what the meme is on about.


Zathrus1

That’s outdated. They dropped the PHB+1 rule… last year? I haven’t played AL for several years now, but given how many bad home games appear on Reddit… there’s FAR worse sins.


NSA_Chatbot

I let my players grab anything from any book that matches the current version, including UA, and including the UA that Wizards rescinded. One DM I played with didn't roll stats. He'd talk with you about the character concept, and you'd justify the stats based on what you wanted to play.


Harris_Grekos

Both you and that DM sound great. Hope your parties value you


NSA_Chatbot

> sound great. It's a lot easier when you go to mutual storytelling. Some of the bad guys want the party dead, but I want them to be awesome. I really should have let them use the carpet the way they wanted to, though.


Harris_Grekos

What carpet? There was a carpet?


NSA_Chatbot

Carpet of teleportation, made you bamf to a hunting green 5 miles away. They wanted to hit a baddie to take them out of the fight, but the carpet description said it had to be hanged to work. One of my biggest DM regrets. I should have let them be cool.


Zaynara

shit i already blew up the picture so i could, mvp here though


Studoku

Looks like the text was hid.


HaraldRedbeard

He writes his text incredibly small


SkyrimMilfDrinker

No magic items, tabaxi only, Final Destination!


rtakehara

party of 4 free for all though right?


eliecc

To be fair … blood hunter isn’t even a real class. Perfectly fine to ignore homebrew.


HaraldRedbeard

Blood hunter also sucks to be fair


Peaceteatime

Ugh that theorycrafting suckered me into playing a Bloodhunter. Ended up being one of the lamest campaigns of my life because while it *sounds* so cool in text, in actual live play it just sorta… sucks. Not tanky enough to survive up front. Not damaging enough to be the striker. No real ability to handle multiple enemies. Nothing valuable for the party with healing. Can’t afford to spec anything to be a face. There was a narrow window where as a Lycan I quasi had some barbarian style rage tankyness but the second I’d hit half hp it became a liability and I ended up having to drop it or hurt my friends. I feel it can only stand out if you’re perfectly optimized while in a small party of halfwits. Anything I was decent at, there was someone else who could do much better. 😢


snowcone_wars

Bloodhunter has the same problem that some of the Ranger subclasses do, in that it is very strong in its role, but if the campaign in question isn't running that role, it won't do much. A Ranger Gloomstalker is fantastic if you're going to be wandering through the Underdark. It is terrible if you're playing a detective story set exclusively in a large city. Bloodhunters are great if your campaign is specifically geared around tracking down supernatural/fey entities. It isn't nearly as good in other campaigns.


Peaceteatime

Yes this exactly. All dnd classes have a set amount of power put into different areas. A big chunk of the power that has been invested in the bloodhunter simply doesn’t come up. “Oh cool, I get advantage on a check to recall lore about a specific evil creature!” Meanwhile other classes get actual practical mechanical perks. This is the sort of thing that’s completely useless since 98% of the time if the DM actually has any lore to give you… they’re going to find a way to give it to you. Doesn’t matter if you rolled a 4 or a 19.


eliecc

That too.


YourBigRosie

Just ain’t building them right. They’re no bard, but they do their jobs well


HaraldRedbeard

I'm not building them at all, please see above. Also 'use health for powers' is always rubbish.


Lithl

>Also 'use health for powers' is always rubbish. In many games it's broken.


Mystimump

It's the type of mechanic that either sucks or is broken. Sacrificing health to do anything basic to your class HAS to be broken or it's useless-- you're slowly killing yourself to be a subpar ranger/paladin esque thing, which is what Blood Hunter's identity may as well be.


Fantastic_Wrap120

In a system with limited healing, yes. If there was a cantrip heal which was actually good... It'd suck because of action economy anyway...


InterestingAroma

If there was a cantrip heal at all it would be way overpowered because you would just spam it out of combat all the time...


Fantastic_Wrap120

Hadn't thought about the out of combat results...


TheJambus

I built a pretty decent Hobgoblin (MotM) Blood Hunter/Mastermind Rogue. Use the Mastermind's bonus action Help, give hobgoblin (and another character) 1d6 + proficiency temp hp, and use said temp hp to fuel powers.


lem0nhe4d

As an MTG player who mostly back I am appaled and outraged


XandertheGrim

This right here! Spend my HP to use my abilities? No thanks, the enemies take them away fast enough. It’s like any time you see a “blood mage” homebrew, just nope, I like my HP.


KaffeMumrik

It’s the only class no one at my table have even tried because it just sounds and looks so cringy


TheBiggestPedant

Are you still on internet explorer? They did away with PHB+1 when Tausha's came out.


TurtleFace13

And then there's Meme Matt. He forces readers to squint at the last panel.


bigriveruk

One of us


Devastraitor

Where can I get the rest of the pixels? Seriously tho I think you should reupload this with a better quality


NSA_Chatbot

You only have the base pack. To get the rest of the pixels, download the Pixel+ pack from D&D Beyond! Now integrates into Reddit.


Cringeman66

Phb+1 stopped being a thing in al TWO YEARS AGO, it was to stop minmaxxers abusing setting books and stopped as soon as tashas came out


Quakarot

Tasha’s is two years old? Oh no.


Cringeman66

Yes


Quakarot

You know that one moment in saving private Ryan where he becomes an old man? That.


Cringeman66

No I don’t know it because saving private Ryan is three years older than me


Quakarot

IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN


mattpkc

Most of the issues you seem to have stem from phb +1 which got removed a while back


TheDokutoru

He forced his players to read unreadable text.


Lamplorde

The only thing I've done is tell someone they couldnt be a Yuan Ti once. It was my literal first time DMing, the guy is known as a bit of a min-maxer, and the world was WW1 but Magic. Every single gun, tank, and such ran off magic. Most small arms were attacks, but there was going to be *a lot* of saves as well. He came in with a Yuan Ti Ancients Paladin when I told him the setting. I was like "Sorry dude, but its my literal first time DMing. I know a *good* DM would have no trouble, but I have no experience making encounters so can you please choose something else?"


AlienPutz

Yuan Ti would be insanely good in a magic Great War, immunity to spicy wind and resistance to all the magic effects. I don’t blame you.


Lamplorde

Im not good at saying no, but I had to put my foot down. I mean, when I told them about the setting I made it clear how much magic there was. Like, WW1 mustard gas is Stinking Cloud (or worse). Flamethrowers are Burning Hands. Magic missile revolvers. Acid Arrow Sniper rifles. Fireball grenades. And more. Like, his starting equipment was a Greatsword and a Firebolt-action rifle. So I was a little let down he'd make a character so specifically countering my world for my *first time* DMing, ngl.


AlienPutz

I don’t know if being let down is the best response. They wanted to be powerful, you made it very clear some races are by their stats better for this kind of war. No different then picking races with darkvision in an underdark campaign, clerics in undead heavy games, or dragon sorcerer in a dragon heavy game. Still no reason not to ban something. Even with the best GM they are going to be statically better.


Nepalman230

Also DM Dave is guilty of leaving his son Venger to be raised by his evil bio mom. … Why Dungeonmaster why? I mean I’m not saying I approve of any of that evil motherfuckers actions but the guy has legit beef with DM Is all I’m saying.


Redditer_64

"What did OP do?" "He made the text too small to read..."


Jack_Of_Blades_

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NotChedco

I think that's more then fair. They aren't forcing anyone to play. If you don't want to play that type of game, you're free to leave.


AlienPutz

You could literally say that about any decision the GM could make, to enforcing a strict pallet of Tiefling skin tones, to banning classes or features, to including sexual assault in game.


Crayon_Muncha

HOLY AHIT THATS DUNGEUN MASTER FROM THE D&D ANIMATED SHOW I HAVE A BOX SET OF THAT SHOW


valvalent

No Blood Hunters? What is the issue? Not everyone wants to homebrew classes.


Jonaman8

I think it's perfectly reasonable to restrict stuff as a DM, as long as it's known up front. Especially for newer DMs the multitude of things to consider can be quite daunting


LoliGrail

Why would anyone get pissy about someone wanting to use AL rules?


Corvo--Attano

I've seen pissy people when I look over Homebrew and deny their unbalanced and overpowered (sub)class. And some get mad I deny Blood Hunters and remove Echo Knights. And by overpowered homebrew, I mean that at level 3 they overcome B/S/P resistance and immunity while their attacks also deal an extra 2d6 (turns to 5d10 by level 18) necrotic damage. Then they get other abilities that stack on this as BAs or free actions.


Deep_Fried_Leviathan

People get annoyed when they have options taken away from them because tbh it is kinda annoying to have some of the cooler options taken from you I remember I was once restricted to only the subclasses that came free on DND beyond and character building is a lot less fun when you have basically no options


FlimsyWeek6131

https://www.reddit.com/r/dndmemes/comments/whq1od/you_know_who_you_are/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Willbo_Baggins84

I’ll let my Players Divine Smite with Ranged Weapons because how cool does a Magically Amped Up Arrow or Bullet sound?!?


Atlas_Zer0o

It does sound cool, which is why arcane archer fighter is a class and paladins nearly invalidate and are horribly imbalanced when you allow an intelligent player to range smite.


Willbo_Baggins84

Jokes on you! ALL my players are horribly imbalanced and they’re all having a GREAT time!


Atlas_Zer0o

Homebrew is great. I do it a lot. I just don't waste my time hyper buffing classes to the point of stepping on or invalidating others, especially with bad flavor. Times better spent making new things.


Willbo_Baggins84

No no, you misunderstand me. I hyperbuff *Everyone*. At least at my table, I want everyone to feel that anime character nonsense if they want it! It’s just rule of cool my dude, idk why we’re having this weird back and forth lol


NonnagLava

You should try Pathfinder 2 if you haven’t! Give a mod or high level one shot a try, it scales really well so **all classes** get that anime OP feel.


Willbo_Baggins84

Ooooo good to know! Thanks for the tip!


quuerdude

Arcane archer sucks tho


Atlas_Zer0o

Yea you definitely are groupless.


quuerdude

What kind of insult is that? I play in 3 games a week and DM once a month.


Legatharr

get some cloth, wrap it around your hands. Now it's an improvised weapon and can be used to smite


PrometheusHasFallen

I'm thinking about switching systems for my next campaign. Worlds Without Number which gives my players the choice between the warrior, the expert and the mage. Of course human only. I'm literally Hitler.


NoobSabatical

First time I ever saw sycophantry. OMG I forgot about this; I went to an advertised game and the GM had a self insert angle-demon paladin character which I was like uummmm, but the rest of us had to go by league rules. You could break out of league rules if you sucked up to the GM and it was clear that the other players were doing that and it was the strangest experience. I'd never seen mass sycophantry before MAGA.


Saxophobia1275

We have a blood hunter in our group rn and it’s fucking cool


Catguyrussell

Perfect use of the flair


ILeNerdI

Needs more .jpg


Flyingdirtboi

I play at a paid card shop and we don’t follow rules that much.


DragonSphereZ

Cartain class/race combos are banned in AL?


AdamBlaster007

Just get Tavern Brawler and start Divine Smiting with a broken table leg (dont know how to finesse the other ones though).