Drone almost crashes into guy skiing
By - Vote2020america
idiots like these make us all suffer from a negative image. Idiots.
As a drone enthusiast myself this was well deserved. I take flight safety very seriously. Some people don’t get how dangerous these things can be.
If he’d hit the skier then we’re talking 6-7 figures in compensation and hefty legal fees.
$1,000 to buy a new drone seems a pretty good deal - and hopefully a lesson learnt.
Not to mention if he even has proper authorization to fly and permission from the owner/s of that property.
The guy should def be that angry. Maybe not destroy the property, but be angry I am also curious if there was footage of the fly by of the skier going past it!? It may of looked pretty epic all be it reckless
Fake and dumb
Beautiful, perfect outcome. Fuck these idiots.
Drone pilot = idiot and wreckless
Was destruction of the drone over the top yup, but i cant say i wouldnt do the same thing. guy could have caused bodily injury to me. and WTF flying a white drone that low on the slopes, so many things wrong with this. along with going against traffic. sheesh.
The one thing a lot of people in this post don't seem to realize is how difficult the drone is to see until it's almost too late to swerve out of the way. The white snow, white drone, and high rates of speed of the skier and drone make for a "blink and you'll miss it" type of potential impact. When someone is skiing downhill, you want to know the one thing they shouldn't have to worry about? A drone running into them. That alone qualifies the pilot as a reckless moron, licensed or not.
Furthermore, the attitude of the pilot and his friend is abhorrent. Telling the skier, "bro, relax" is the worst-possible reaction to have, considering they could've injured him.
What if that was a kid or an inexperienced skier? What if there was a grove of trees nearby and the skier plowed into them while attempting to avoid the drone? What if there was a sudden drop off just behind the drone and the skier didn't notice it because they were attempting to swerve out of the way?
thats my first reaction, i had to watch the video twice because i lost the drone in the snow, i cant imagine what it was like actually flying it. and you know that guy wasnt watching his drone he was watching the screen and probably didnt even see how close he was to wrecking him.
I love drones, I love flying my drone... And that skier is 100% appropriate in that response. They should not have been flying that low where an unaware skier could collide with it. They deserved to have it smashed.
They should haven't been flying anywhere close that ski range, period. A drone like that isn't allowed to fly over people in US at all, it will never be granted a waiver either without some safety equipment on it.
I took a phantom 4 to the forearm and bicep once at full speed. Imo that guy let them off easy. I would’ve stuck my ski poles up there asses!
He let them off by breaking the drone to avoid assault charges, I'd say that's pretty smart.
Why would you fly it that low on a hill that people ski down? Idiotic pilot.
The amount of people here that think destroying someone else's drone is justified is unbelievable. Y'all should look up some cases where this has happened before. Spoiler: it never goes well for the person destroying the drone.
Edit: Apparently Googling is just too much effort. [It's a felony to destroy someone else's drone.](https://slate.com/technology/2016/04/faa-confirms-it-s-a-federal-crime-to-shoot-down-a-drone.html)
Edit: also, maybe read the actual article before you message me and tell me this drone wasn't shot down.
Funny thing is that drone would already be destroyed by the pilot's negligence flying low and in path with an unaware skier..... So had this played out differently the drone wouod be destroyed, the skier would be injured and the pilot would lile be suing or beating the piss out of the pilot.
For this to end with just the drone stomped on is a win.
You're right, property damage is not a good thing. But it's also a reasonable expectation for someone (who just had their personal safety violated) to act erratically and retaliate. Just like flying your drone in the path of a skier or highway traffic has a reasonable expectation of negligent property damage and/or injury.
Be a better pilot.
Dude, I'm not defending the drone pilot here, he's an absolute dumbass. Him being a dumbass doesn't justify another guy hitting the drone after the risk of danger is gone.
>So had this played out differently the drone wouod be destroyed, the skier would be injured and the pilot would lile be suing or beating the piss out of the pilot.
I agree! But that's not what happened. We would be having a different conversation at that point
This was justified. Fuck that pilot.
I'm not defending the pilot. He's a dumbass. But the existence of dumbasses doesn't justify what the skier did. He was out of danger at that point.
Some serious dumbasses in these comments, I wouldn't waste your breath.
That was quite the freak out. I agree. I can see why someone would be mad. But destroying property is over the line.
Yeah sure being pissed maybe... getting almost hit... meh, getting hit in ski gear.... lol a phantom would bounce off. Yes I have been hit by a Phantom in cotton pants, stopped a run away Mavic with my leg in cotton pants... Now if this was a Matrice or larger then yeah I would be really mad if I could walk or ski again because it's gonna drop ya. Smashing some kids stuff isn't on though, report, teach and discuss. Regardless of what happened he is now up for damages.
Have you ever hit something while skiing? He was probably going 40mph+, the drone was going the opposite direction at a not slow speed either. That is a LOT of energy. Not to mention the adrenaline, and he had to be trying to keep his cool and maintain control so he wouldnt crash into the people at the end of the run (ironically enough the same dumbass who flew into him).
Based on my experience skiing, plus my experience with my old Phantom 4, that had to hurt like hell, and if he had wiped out, he could have very well gotten severely injured or injured the people standing at the end of the run (though Im sure he wouldnt have felt too bad once he realized they were the cause).
People shouldnt escalate things, but dont minimize the pain or justified anger that guy felt. These are actions that can quickly go from "Ouch" to "I need to go to the hospital, RIGHT NOW". The pilot is very lucky.
The drone doesn’t touch him.
It was certainly close enough to make the skier swerve to avoid it possibly putting the skier in danger of being out of control.
Ok. Let’s do an experiment. You ski down a slope, and i get the throw a phantom into your face as hard as I can. Please, wear some cotton to soak up the blood.
Nice hypothetical but I don’t ski.
Ok. Just stand there then. That will make it easier on me because I don’t throw drones at idiots a lot.
Tbf, if you own a phantom pro and you pilot like that, you don't deserve neither the pilot license(provided you have one, and this doesn't seem the case) nor the drone. Flying a 1.5 pound drone along a populated slope, uphill at that speed is asking for trouble, which he promptly got. Provided the skier overreacted by destroying the drone, he could have easily gotten badly injured if he did get hit, and instead of smashing it he could have just brought the footage to the local police station, so that they could have fined the idiot that was the pilot
Woah I just got into drones. Would you get hurt that bad if you would hit it? I always thought the propellors would just bend and you'd barely feel it
Yes it would, even the mini 2 can hurt you if it hit in the right spot. That's why flying over people or in a manner where your drone can hit a person if it lost control is not allowed except for certain exceptions (which even mini 2 doesn't meet the requirement right now)
Aaah yes that makes perfect sense, thanks!
So, let's do some math: the skier didn't seem like going very fast here, so let's say he was going 35-40km/h (25-ish mph), the drone was considerably faster given how quickly it passed by, so let's say it was going 55-60 km/h (40-ish mph); the phantom 4 pro v2 weighs in at 1375 grams(well above 2 pounds), so we're basically dealing with a 1.4 kg bullet armed with cutting extremities hitting a stationary target at 90-100 km/h (65-70 mph). Yeah, your vacation will get pretty intense
Edit: to add to this, any drone hitting a person will hurt a lot, especially if the propellers are still spinning, those things CUT.
Damn yes if you put it like that it's quite a collision! I didn't think the drone was going that fast!
Never felt propellers like that so can't speak out of experience but I believe you!
[Here's a video the Mythbusters did on this precise topic a few years ago, using a chicken analog.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgeRchTHxVk)
They tested a comparable off-brand drone and fixed one of the blades to a stick. Even modified, the blades cut through the chicken pretty easily. Of course, that was a highly controlled environment.
A drone in the midst of flying impacting a person can possibly yield the same injuries shown on the chicken.
His reaction is justified. I would do the same as drone pilot. Ppl are idiots they don’t know the law and regulations. They could injure him badly.
Actually no it’s not. You claim to know laws and regulations so well but that response shows that you clearly don’t.
He does. What that kid just did is illegal. No resort would have given a green light to do what they were doing.
What the guy did is illegal too.. Downvote all you want but if there’s no reason for destroying that property. If someone cuts you off and you *almost* crash, do you normally ram their vehicle? Because justice.
At the top of that sky resort banned drones for safety reasons. And this is example.
Yes he shouldn’t act like that but imagine what if they would injured his eye or kill him. They shouldn’t operate drone on slope where are people. Period!
>His reaction is justified.
He's rightfully angry
He wrongfully destroyed someone else's property. That's not the right reaction.
> I would do the same as drone pilot.
As a “drone pilot”, you should know that it is a felony to “willfully destroy or damage aircraft”.
let's just say both sides are faulty. I am fairly confident that if the drone pilot has a commercial license, it would be taken away after this incident if it was reported. Similarly the guy who hit the drone would also get a small penalty.
I agree 100%. I am not trying to justify the drone pilot whatsoever.
The correct thing for the skier to do would have been for the skier to get their information and report them to the resort, the local police, and the relevant aviation governing body (FAA in the US for example).
As a human, sometimes doing stupid shit results in consequences.
As a human, you don't get to decide what those consequences are, the law does. If you chose to take matters into your own hands, you live by those same consequences, which in this case, is becoming a felon.
A felony? Is there a death penalty/1+ year imprisonment for destroying property where you live?
Did you not read my comment? Destroying an aircraft, which this Phantom, being more than 250 grams and requiring registration by the FAA is defined as, is the issue; not destroying property.
And what makes you think a felony would be a death sentance?
death sentence or 1+ year imprisonment is what defines a felony.
I didn't know about the law about destroying aircraft though
>death sentence or 1+ year imprisonment is what defines a felony.
This is not accurate. While felonies, being more severe, most often carry longer prison sentences, a year or longer prison sentence is not what classifies a felony. You can get a felony for a crime with a 180 prison sentence (at least in Texas).
The main difference between a felony and a misdemeanor is that a felony is meant to carry long term or permanent ramifications (including losing your right to vote, own firearms, etc) whereas a misdemeanor does not. There are some misdemeanors that can carry prison sentences longer than some felonies.
>I didn't know about the law about destroying aircraft though
How? I stated it verbatim in my first comment?
>You can get a felony for a crime with a 180 prison sentence (at least in Texas).
That's usually called "shock time" and it's supposed to be for first offenses. A felony carries a *possible* sentence of 1 or more years, though a judge can sentence you to less (with the exception of crimes with mandatory minimum sentencing requirements).
I'm not disagreeing with that. My point is that a felony is a classification of severity more so than time. In some places it's possible to do 5 years for a misdemeanor and others you may be charged only 180 days for felony (and possibly serve even less than that). Regardless, after serving your time, a felony is most likely going to have a far greater effect on the rest of your life that a misdemeanor with a longer term.
In most states, misdemeanors are limited to one year. There are a few exceptions, but that's the general rule.
And yes, a felony is **significantly** more impactful on your future, without a doubt.
Hmmm. I wonder who the cops, and judge would side with in this situation.
Well, where i live, flying a drone like that is a 1000$ fine....
Right? I don’t understand why people are sticking up for this kid. This is what gets drones banned and destroys public perception of drones.
The cops and judge don’t get to decide what the law is.
But they absolutely interpret and carry it out? You think cops are going to come to the resort, arrest that dude, and a judge is going to hear that case? And then side with the punk kids putting other people at risk? Give me a break. This isn’t some asshole in a park shooting someone’s drone out of the sky.
That's not the way the law works. One crime does not justify another. Both of these people broke the law, both deserve to be prosecuted.
*At the very least*, the drone operator would have a strong civil suit if criminal law didn't settle the matter.
I am aware. I am saying no one is going to go to bat for some punks illegally flying a drone. Civil suit, maybe. So are you going to tackle the guy and force him to give you his name and address lol? So you can take him to small claims lol. Listen to yourself
> I am saying no one is going to go to bat for some punks illegally flying a drone.
They're not "going to bat for some punks" but rather "upholding the federal law".
> Civil suit, maybe. So are you going to tackle the guy and force him to give you his name and address lol?
Yes. But not for a civil suit, but rather because they just committed a felony.
>Listen to yourself
*If only you knew how to read...*
You are dreaming buddy. As I said before, it may be federal law, but it’s toothless if it’s not enforced. How many people’s drones have been smashed and nothing happens? The cops aren’t coming, and the judge would likely throw this case out because he would likely agree that this persons reaction to almost being killed was warranted. And if you fuck with that guy you are committing assault. You aren’t a cop, you can’t detain anyone, let alone use violence.
> and the judge would likely throw this case out because he would likely agree that this persons reaction to almost being killed was warranted.
lol at skiing into a stationary drone equaling "almost being killed". I don't get to take a bat to every car that almost hits me in traffic, that's not how the law works.
> And if you fuck with that guy you are committing assault.
If you are stopping someone who just committed a felony, you ARE NOT committing assault.
>You aren’t a cop, you can’t detain anyone, let alone use violence.
ironic for someone advocating violence.
What do you mean?
No it’s not, you’re supposed to stay away from people crowds anyway. This doesn’t make any sense.
Dude was totally justified with his anger, I would say hitting the drone was also justified, that drone flying at that speed against a skier that is also travelling at a great speed (I don't know, looks like 30-40 mph + 30-40 mph? So imagine flying a 1 lb piece of plastic at someones leg at 80 mph?) I mean that could have cause the skier to tumble over head first and who knows what, or lose control and go off into a tree, or the drone could have hit the skier in the face, that drone operator is an idiot, and it won't be long before laws and strictures are put into place to prevent this type of idiocy. Dude totally deserved to have his drone beat down with ski batons. 100%.
Assaulting the people and damaging property after the incident is over? Not justified
No the fuck he didn't and you're a fucking deranged fuck. In my state he would be going to jail with a felony as the drone is over $1000. Fuck that cunt.
Shall he call the police on a ski slope? I don't think you appreciate how dangerous flying the drone that low and fast is, nor how much injury that could have caused.
Dude had an idiot moment, hopefully he doesn't do that again.
And where I live, endangering a human being like that is a 1000$ fine...
Until he destroyed the drone he was right. When he destroyed it he was just another over reacting moron , who can't stand drones
Nice, I see half of you are the same as
the idiot who broke the phantom and the other half like the reckless and now droneless pilot. Before you can be the judges you must be judge. And I can't believe anyone telling me he is the perfect or most lawful pilot. Because the way I see it a big percentage of you maybe have already reache well over the restricted height or something similar. Learn from you mistakes. Dont be a dick. A dick with a controller thinking he is the best pilot or a dick with a stick who brakes another person's property like it's his.
He destroyed it, and now the idiot “pilot” 1) can’t do this stupid shit again and 2) learned a lesson that will stick because he lost something he valued.
I disagree. I think that dudes reaction to someone threatening his safety is pretty warranted.
It was no longer self defense when he destroyed. He actually asked them to bring it to him (it was hovering in place posing no danger to him when he attacked it).
it was way too close when they flew it back. NEVER land that close to another person. He was fully justified.
>it was way too close when they flew it back. NEVER land that close to another person.
He literally asked them to bring it closer...
>He was fully justified.
You guys are so full of shit. He attacked it as it was hovering stationary. No different than if someone negligently gets to close to my vehicle, it doesn't give me the right to wait for them to ~~stock~~ stop and then destroy their property.
Edit: corrected "stock" to "stop"
Pilot always has ultimate responsibility for safety of the drone and bystanders. This pilot and your defense of him are examples of why we will soon have remote id
>Pilot always has ultimate responsibility for safety of the drone and bystanders.
Absolutely zero relevance to my comment. It doesn't matter what the pilot did, it doesn't give you the right to feloniously destroy someone else's property.
> This pilot and your defense of him are examples of why
Please show me where I defended this pilot? You guys defending an unwarranted assault are going to find your selves in a prison cell if you act anything like you talk.
>we will soon have remote id
I'm guessing this upsets you only because *YOU* break the law. Otherwise, what's there to be upset about.
A drone that close to a human is easily considered a weapon. In most US states, the fact that he can swat it with his feet on the ground means he was being assaulted by the drone. Maybe a crime, but this would end up in the discretion of the responding officer. Pilot could choose to sue in small claims, but wont likely get too far.
It is absolutely a felony had the THROWN his poles at it in the air, yes. He did not.
Licensed 107 pilot and a hobbyist. I hate new restrictions which make my quads heavier and more limited. I do this for work and these kids with their drones make my jobs more difficult year by year.
>In most US states, the fact that he can swat it with his feet on the ground means he was being assaulted by the drone.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What a joke. Assaulted by a stationary hovering drone THAT YOU ASKED TO BE BROUGHT TO YOU.
>It is absolutely a felony had the THROWN his poles at it in the air, yes. He did not.
Completely irrelevant if it's landed or not (which it wasn't).
>Licensed 107 pilot and a hobbyist
And yet you still don't know the law....
> I hate new restrictions which make my quads heavier and more limited.
Oh yeah, so limiting that many of the most popular drones already have it and you can't even tell the difference in performance when it's on.
> I do this for work
Oh, I'm sure you do. I'm sure it's definitely your day job and you're definitely very professional and your family wouldn't even be able to eat if you had to broadcast ID for some reason....
Regardless, if you want to be wrong, I'm not going to waste any more of my time stopping you.
I agree its pretty warranted, people use self-defense equipment against far less danger than shown in the video. There was absolute no sense, for the pilot to be flying the drone like that
It wasn't actively posing a risk when he attacked it though. You can't attack someone's parked car just because they previously negligently swerved towards you.
And drone pilot's reputation gets worse by the day...
Just came to comment this. I live in a ski resort and I regularly use my drone for filming and photos and I'm always so careful of people around me but after this video went viral (last year I think?) I did feel as though there was a subtle shift in people's attitudes if they saw me with my drone.
If you don’t have a license, you shouldn’t be flying over people or for a business.
Yeah yeah keep downvoting assholes. Every one of you that does stupid shit with drones, and refuse to get licenses, ruins it for the rest of us that do this for more than a hobby.
Do you think a license prevents people from not flying without common sense? Not everyone has common sense but certainly a license doesn’t imbibe the magically to you.
Hey! Thanks for the feedback. I'm flying with a mavic mini in France so as far as I can tell I'm OK for flying over people - I don't fly directly over people anyway. As for doing it for a business, I make weekly snow reports for a website which feature a couple of shots of drone flying, I don't think there's a legal issue with that but I could be wrong.
My apologies, I assumed you were in American airspace. In the US, you need a license to do commercial work or fly over dense crowds.
Of which this looked like neither scenario.
A person flying for a ski resort would qualify for commercial and flying over public. If OP were an American, he would need p-107
But this doesnt look to be that. This looks like 2 kids flying a drone in the resort.
I’m commenting under the French guy...
I laugh at you and your licenses while I enjoy my unrestricted jailbroken drone with no NFZ restrictions.
No apology needed!
Good way to get shot.
You stupid poisened american.
So, I'm American and a gun owner. If someone smashed my drone up, I'd make sure he got prosecuted for it, and maybe even use his own GoPro footage against him if I could. I did not see any reason to shoot anyone. In my opinion, the big balled willingness to "shoot someone" is used too often and usually by people who would not have the balls to do it or even worse have the balls to do it for no justified reason. As a gun owner, I say to you other Muppets that say stuff like this. STOP. Please, stop. It's like the few motorcycle owners doing dumb shit, and everyone just judges all motorcycle owners for it.
Ya, sorry we defend ourselves, we should just let people rape our wives and daughters like they do in Europe.
Stupid and ignorant. Way to go, dickhead.
It's literally a fact lmfao. Educate yourself.
“It’s literally a fact”
-someone with no evidence, no brain power, and a loud mouth
Imagine being so ignorant that you think everyone carries a weapon with them outside of the US
Who said I thought that? Imagine being so ignorant you have to lie about what people said to prove your bias.
Pretty big over reaction if you ask me. I snowboard, if it had hit me I likely wouldn't have more than a bruise on my knee, thigh, or calve at the altitude it was at. Of course it's still dangerous and he deserved to be sternly reprimanded but didn't deserve his property destroyed.
It's not that the altitude that's the problem, it's the speed of both the drone and bloke skiing. Those two combined speeds hitting each other would cause significant damage to your legs and drone.
And if you can't fly responsibly, then this what can happen lol totally deserved.
Have you ever had a prop hit your leg? He’s justified to be pissed. That guy should never have been flying there.
I mean, with snow pants on your not going to get cut or feel a sting. Like I said at the speed you may get tissue damage from impact but thats likely it, and any broken bones would come from the fall. Your right he shouldn't have, I just don't think destruction of property is a rational way to resolve the issue, seems very childish.
Yes you are correct, my opinion is wrong. Your opinion is objectively perfect and correct. Ease up bud unjack those tits, everyone handles situations differently.
Justified to be pissed but not justified to destroy a piece of equipment that costs well over $1000. Fuck that cunt. Hope they locked his fucked ass up.
Destruction of property. Over $1000 in damages is a felony.
That $1000 equipment could have caused serious injury and permanent damage. The guy could have fell bc of it and hit his head, it could have taken a knee or an eye out. One trip to the ER is gonna be more than 1k. This guy makes it worst for responsible flyers. He shouldn’t be allowed a drone. I would have done the same.
Sounds like he has socialized healthcare. The cunt would of been fine.
Not if there was permanent damage from a fall.
You are deluded
Ehh, thats a phantom that's a fairly large drone.... I'd think a skiier moving at high speeds could easily get knocked unconscious running into that. Not to mention sliced up too.
Knocked uncon yes, sliced up rather unlikely in down coating. Regardless the dude was a moron for flying that low.