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Dissociative combinations are like a choose your own adventure book

Dissociative combinations are like a choose your own adventure book

Rstytrmbn3

Never really done dissos, but I am so intrigued by them. Your post describes exactly why! One day!


caffcaffcaff1

They are super fascinating. Just don't underestimate the addictive potential, these trips are (generally) just so much easier, carefree and more recreational than traditional psychs, which makes it easy to over indulge for certain people.


Rstytrmbn3

Back when I was a 18-19, I tried PCP, like actual street PCP. This was 1998/1999. I didn’t know what to think, I remember not liking it because it was such a foreign feeling. At the time I smoked a lot of weed did some speed/meth every so often, and the PCP was just so different. Who knows what I actually smoked. But now with my decade or so affair with RCs, I’ve always loved reading trip reports from you disso-heads. This is the only class of Chems I literally have no experience with and with so many that have come and gone I feel like I’m gonna miss the train. When I first started my RC use, I bought a gram of MXE with my benzo and A-PVP order because it was so popular at the time. Well, went hard on the Apvp for over 24hrs, snapped out of it and got disgusted with myself. Had a come to Jesus meeting in my mind and flushed everything I had…I was done, going to clean my life up. Slept for a good 12hr, woke up and punched myself in the face for flushing everything. To include the MXE I never tried.


caffcaffcaff1

Damn, haven't had the chance to try PCP myself yet. I feel for you on the MXE, I had a chance to acquire it but wasn't interested in dissos or RC's that much at that time in my life, kicking myself for that one now


Shlopcakes

You missed out on the MXE. Lol


Rstytrmbn3

That’s what I hear….I proby paid $30-40/g at that time. Pretty much every vendor stocked it back then.


Shlopcakes

Dissociatives are my favorite class of drugs.


Rincewinded

Anyone else feel OP is definitely on an adventure right now? :P That sounds like some serious Dissothoughts :D


caffcaffcaff1

Lol yeah ;) no work today, the adventure began with 3-meo-pce, I'm currently on the 2-FDCK path of the story but I'm not sure where the next crossroads will lead me to yet. Lots of options :)


Rincewinded

Play everybody or dark souls! :D


caffcaffcaff1

Doing some much needed cleaning around the house rn listening to tunes, will prob vape a little O-PCE and game at some point (I love dark souls!)


Rincewinded

Oh you don't just live in complete depressive squalor? Awesome! I've only managed to remove immediate health hazards personally! :P If it's tunes may I suggest Polyphia, Shpongle and London Grammar? :D


scruggbug

Last time I played video games on dissos, I made Charlie and Frank on Sims and they lived on an empty lot with sleeping bags and just fished all day and cooked them over a campfire


Rincewinded

This jabroni knows how to do drugs, watch shows and game! By fish I assume you mean catch crabs? Were they crab people?


scruggbug

I tried to make a bridge but I was too fucked up for that


caffcaffcaff1

Don't forget to bring the toll


caffcaffcaff1

Boil your denim for safety


QueasyVictory

Nothing quite like the intoxicating taste and smell of Delaware River run off crabs.


caffcaffcaff1

Oh I very much live in depressive squalor, these manic episodes are a nice change of pace on occasion though


caffcaffcaff1

BTW Polyphia completely blew my mind yesterday, thanks for that!


justretardedmonkey

Add psychedelics too and it's choose your own death and dimension


caffcaffcaff1

yep, i don't start reading these books without a DMT cart in hand :)


justretardedmonkey

Did you make it yourself? Like did you make the solution in your cart by yourself or you could purchase it? I really want to vape dmt and tryptamines.


caffcaffcaff1

I'm a DIY guy, it's super simple, just PG + DMT, slight heat to help dissolve, fill cart. I use 750mg DMT and .25ml pg which fills up a 1ml cart and is potent enough to break through in about 3 big hits


FBGMerk4

Do you even need to heat to dissolve or just agitate? Id imagine dmt wouldn’t need a hot bath considering most benzos ive worked with didnt just agitation periodically over a hour or two


caffcaffcaff1

I haven’t tried without heat, maybe if you stir it / let it sit long enough but some gentle heat makes it dissolve fast


FBGMerk4

Personally prefer without heat with other substances


caffcaffcaff1

Understandable. I think I read a guide someone posted where they incorporate a few drops of high proof ethanol to get it to dissolve without heat but not sure. It's just gonna be hard without heat with the high concentrations needed in a cart, in a sub ohm tank setup you can use a weaker ratio that should dissolve easier without heat.


FBGMerk4

True I guess im thinking mostly of oral solutions ive done both heat and no heat granted im talking about noids and benzos here and other potent dissos


sleepswamp

I've really wanted to try combining the two. It's nerve wracking though because although dissociatives dissolve your emotional attachment to things, I still have found them so far to be notably dark and sometimes cold/isolating in their experience.


caffcaffcaff1

I completely understand the hesitation as it is an incredibly intense experience. At least for me personally, being on a dissociative really smooths the transition into the psychedelic headspace, I recently did a few bumps of 2-FDCK before dropping a tab of 1p-LSD and it made the come up a breeze. The dissos on a psychedelic combo seem to help reduce anxiety via making you feel more detached from the experience, like you're witnessing it rather than it happening to you per se. It's really hard to explain and like I said is still very intense so careful attention to set and setting is needed for sure. But the combo is super worth it. I'd highly recommend combining DMT to start with, it's short duration and insane visuals and body high mesh perfectly with dissos, easily the most euphoric and visual (obviously) disso experiences I have had.


cyrilio

So I haven’t combined dissos that much. What combos stand out or are especially good/interesting? Would love to try some out.


caffcaffcaff1

Let's see, probably the most stand out is 3-meo-pcp + 2-FDCK / K. With that one the K helps balance out the craziness of the 3-meo-pcp and just brings it to a very magical place. This is probably the one I've done the most. ​ MXiPr + MXPr was really good, as was DMXE + MXiPr. I never got to try MXE but these combos made a very unique experience. On that note MXiPr goes great with pretty much anything, watch for overstimulation depending on the base disso. Really good mixed with 2-FDCK. ​ DCK + DMXE was absolutely mind blowing, easily the most psychedelic disso experience I have had, very intense. ​ 3-ho-pcp + vaped O-PCE is my go to for holing, the 3-ho-pcp mainly just helps to potentiate and extend the hole but adds a little spice of its own. I usually vape DMT as I'm just starting to come out of the hole to get completely blasted through alternate dimensions. ​ 3-meo-pce + o-pce was good too ​ honestly I haven't found a combo that was particularly bad, I'm sure I'm forgetting some that were less noteworthy but those are the best ones I've found. Doing two stimmy dissos like mxipr with 3-meo-pcp can get a little too stimulated. 3-meo-pcp + 3-ho-pcp produces a really great high but is incredibly hard to dose properly without getting amnesia or at least higher than you planned....


Coyote-Carcass

Thanks for the info. I’m going to try these. I’m especially interested in blasting off right after coming out of a hole, never tried it that way.


caffcaffcaff1

I can't recommend it highly enough, easily my favorite drug experience, the euphoria coming down from the DMT is up there with the strongest euphoria I have ever felt. I usually just sit there unwilling to move for like 30 minutes afterwards just in awe giggling like a child lol. Have your DMT setup prepared and within reach, I like to hit it when I barely have enough coordination and situational awareness to find the thing. You definitely don't need as much DMT as usual to blast off, I can't advise on dose too well as I use a cart (you want something easy to use since you'll be super dissociated coming out of the hole), but I'd estimate somewhere between 10-20mg maybe? I usually just take hits until I can feel myself getting launched. Makes a very smooth transition into DMT land.


derbadehosenmann

OP is so true. 3-ho-pcp is the best base for a ride between worlds. Just did allmost every arylcyclohexylamin and now orderered some 3-ho-pce and im wondering if there is a big difference between these two compounds?


caffcaffcaff1

3-ho-pce is one of the few I haven't tried! From what I've read it seems to be less potent than 3-ho-pcp, I'm sure it's different effects wise too but I can't say exactly how as I haven't tried it.


derbadehosenmann

Allright, but thank you anyways for replying! Going to update you when i did my research in the next days ;)


caffcaffcaff1

looking forward to it :) I'm sure I'll get around to trying it at some point, honestly I need to take a good break from research to let my brain get back to equilibrium so it may be a while


derbadehosenmann

Totally feelya🤝 I'm binging for 14 days now with just little pause ( 1 or 2 days ) between. Going to take a break soon and be allright to ensure that i'm not fucking with my health :3


caffcaffcaff1

Yeah... I'm on a similar stretch right now, same thing with only a couple days of break. I try keep doses as low as possible which helps, but I can tell it's doing a number on my mental health which was never that great to begin with... not my first or longest binge definitely won't be the last, but getting better at controlling it and cutting myself off when needed. These dissos are too good man. Regardless I can tell I need to take a couple months off to really clear my head at this point.


MarcelBaiatFain

Yes indeed, some of my current favorite combos are: 3HO-PCP (medium or high dose) then vape some O-PCE while peaking 3-MEO-PCP & 3HO-PCP combined is quite crazy, not the best hole because it feels like a partial blackout, but it's an amazing feeling combo, I love how it cleared my mind for almost an entire day.


caffcaffcaff1

Oh yes, that 3-MEO-PCP & 3-HO-PCP combo is not to be trifled with. But dosed right? So good.


PsyBearMel

So last night I did 23mg of dmxe and 8mg of mxipr, it was a fantastic chill time and it was amazing, I haven’t mixed 3-ho-pcp with anything other than mushrooms and 2cb


caffcaffcaff1

Oh yeah that DMXE and MXiPr combo is incredible right? 3-ho-pcp is a great mixer, I use low to medium doses of it to potentiate weaker dissos like 2-FDCK etc., but of course it's great on it's own too!


PsyBearMel

I can’t touch 2fdck anymore


srfntoke420

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