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Jermtheworm2112

I just dont get why we arent starting Bernier more often. I get why the org is pushing Blackwood so hard because we need a young guy for the future. But clearly he isnt the right guy. His inconsistancy is killing us. Twice tonight we had a situation where 1 panther skates at the goal against our 1 D player, The D player doing the right thing cuts off the passing lane cross ice and forces the opponent to shoot. This is literally textbook hockey and players are taught to do this to stop the passing lane and force a shot and the goalie will save it usually due to it being a shot from outside the slot. 2 of their goals tonight came from the circumstance I just described and Blackwood couldnt make these should be easy saves and it was the difference. Game shouldve been 2-1 going into the third. The D men played a solid game tonight and you Blackwood stans need to open your eyes.


Jermtheworm2112

Only on reddit can you describe the defensive methods taught to NHL players and still get downvoted by people who have never touched a hockey stick in their life because I think our goalie is subpar and holding the team back. 10/10 classic internet.


kingofthediamond

He’s coming back from a concussion relatively sooner than he should. If you watched the game Blackwood was about a half second slow on his reaction which is why he missed a few key saves. I’d say it would have been a final score of 2-1 not 4-1 if he was in peak shape. Benier played phenomenally and i think he should have started this one and let Blackwood rest for another game or 2


Devil_Dane

*“Bernier played phenomenally and I think he should have started this one and let Blackwood rest for another game or 2”* I actually agree with this. While he may not have a concussion – the way Mac recoiled after Kakko came in contact with him, kinda makes me wonder if Blackwood is playing through neck pain or headaches, or maybe he has some flair up of heel / foot pain. Something was going on. I would not have minded seeing Bernier in net, then evaluate Mac for Saturday against the Bolts.


kingofthediamond

Yeah they said on the broadcast he had a bit of neck stiffness. Maybe sit him for a game and we get the prime time nsfw Blackwood we know and love


Jermtheworm2112

I mean he was never concussed. He just got pulled out by a concussion spotter because its the league rule to keep players safe who get hit in the head. That reaction time just seems to be Blackwood on an off night. Biggest thing is still inconsistancy concussed or not was an issue last year too.


kingofthediamond

That’s a fair point. But just because a goalie is inconsistent doesn’t mean he should be forgotten about. Even Marty had off nights


Jermtheworm2112

100% agree with you. My issue is that Ruff said in an interview that bernier would be #1 goalie while blackwood got resituated into playing. Where as what ive been seeing is they are just throwing him in as many games as possible and its not working. There has to be a better approach to getting him caught up to speed.


kingofthediamond

Technically Blackwood is the number 1 starter. Ruff probably asked him if he was good to go. And like any hockey player he said yes. Players don’t want to show weakness


Jermtheworm2112

I know but why declare that. This is a year we have 2 starting goalies. We should be playing whoever gets the job done more in net. And hopefully that would breed competition between the goalies and ideally would elevate both their gameplay as they fight for their spot.


kingofthediamond

I agree. I think ruff is more the old school. 1A 1B kinda guy.


Chico-_-

Not great, bob


IrateBarnacle

Our defense committed quite a few derps this game.


sendingSTRENGTH

Tonight I had seats 2 rows from the ice, i got them for super cheap and new they were good seats I did not know they were this good... One thing that broke my heart, was the cats didn't even come out very strong that 3rd period, similar mistakes they were making in the 1st. But the devils had absolutely zero interest in trying to win, just coasting by. It was a very winnable game but no one had any fire on their ass and there really isn't a line or player who I thought competed that hard in the third, seemed they were more worried about not letting a 5th goal in. I think one of Ruff's problems is while him being laid back can maybe be good for letting our young core not beat themselves up over growing pain like mistakes in their development, he's gonna never get this team to really go and grab a game by the horns and make a late comeback or get the go ahead in a close game. I feel whatever devils team version you see come out is what you get, or you fire 22 shots on the net and come out with a tied game then lose all fighting spirit entirely. I think you ride him out for the year but this coaching department needs a serious make over to get these guys to take the next step.


Signal_Strike2770

I will say I didn't hate our special teams tonight


Devil_Dane

No post-game thread? Anyway, this game was....something. At least there was (almost) no one in Sunrise watching. Anyway, to cap off the evening with even more tomfoolery, I recorded some episodes of *Ghost Adventures*. Back at it Saturday!


[deleted]

Devils 19-20 avg attendance: 14,899 Panthers Avg attendance 19-20: 14,105 The panthers attendance jokes are getting old.


Devil_Dane

Now in your Panthers world, it may be old, but in my Devils world, it’s fresh and hilarious. You really came into a Devils forum to gatekeep commentary from one of the members? Huh. Good luck against the Wild Saturday.


[deleted]

Not Gatekeeping, just find it weird how Panthers have been making a case for themselves for the past 2 years or so and still get razzed for their crowds. Even Ryan Callahan was shitting on them the other night during the game against NYI during the intermission. You guys can continue razzing us for you know, not winning a playoff series since 96 or our managements horrible track record up until recently, losing a head coach after being 8-0, or firing a head coach and leaving him to take a cab I'm all for it, but I'm not sure why the attendance jokes are still coming from all angles. Anyways GG's last night. Had me worried after that offensive onslaught of a first period.


Devil_Dane

My best advice is the simplest: Your team has noticeable talent and is off to a fantastic start, so just completely enjoy that. Fretting over some rando Devils fan (or fans) is just wasted energy. You can certainly hang out here to catch other perspectives, but I don't think anyone will censor themselves, nor should they. As for national media disrespect, all Devils fans have experience with this, and nod our heads in recognition of the problem. It is what it is.


dadphobia

What’s with this sub this season? No post game thread, no next morning threads?


iamtheprodigy

Yeah honestly this annoys me more than the way the Devils played in the second period. Give me my threads to complain in, at least!


mustachiolong

Did we lose because of Blackwood? No. Would we have been better off starting Bernier? Yes. Would it have made a difference? Probably not, but who knows. We have to keep in mind the Panthers are top 3 in the league. Even though we beat them last time realistically that shouldn’t be the “expected” outcome.


kingofthediamond

We also embarrassed them last game winning by 7. They were out for blood


Dallas1229

Main issue is just our inconsistency. How a team can dominate in the 1st only to get rolled over the next 2 periods is weird. Gunna have to bite the bullet and send some of our struggling youngsters down to the ahl.


dog_fantastic

Shame the Flyers didn't win that SO. I would've felt better about my parlay going 3/5 instead of 4/5.


BEzzzzG

One good period where we dont capitalize on chances, giving up a last second goal and spiraling the rest of the game. Sounds like us


HopelessEsq

There was around 1:30 left in the first and I told my gf “come on, just get through the fucking period.” She was like “what are you talking about? We’re fine.” Then 7 seconds left panthers score and instantly knew that would unravel them. I swear you could script 90% of these games. Same habits lead to the same results.


NJDevs26

I’d love to see someone like De Leo get a shot but waivers


gleeson630

He’s in covid protocol, “it will be a little bit before he’s in the mix”.


dagtrooper

came up with a song during the game: Hello ,darkness, my old friend The Devils on PP again Because a vision softly creeping Left its seeds of them still sucking And the vision that was planted in my brain Still remains Within the sound of failure


paddytoggs

I’m at the rock, and I’m cryyyyyying


Kornja81

Over 40 shots and 30 of them are right into the goalies chest. This coaching staff is clueless, Powerplay is dog shit.


conye89

Movement was better today but still Garbo


Mry64_

Knight was insane


Kornja81

Ehhh idk. Was there and maybe 90% of the shots were right into his chest.


DaMammyNuns

Just playing Devils advocate, but Marty often had performances like that. Really good goalies make it look easy with great anticipation and positioning.


SoccerLife243

Man this team really misses Wood. Shame he’s out for so long.


NJDevs26

It looked like Knight cheated to that side and got lucky he had coverage back door


1defense

we shoulda drafted knight XD


walked_past

Shame.


kevinbaseball52

So if we high stick someone falling it’s insta penalty, someone does it to janne, absolutely nothing


walked_past

Bust can't score.


fartswhenhappy

Nico just got ROBBED.


paddytoggs

Not good


nolan1971

The idiots pounding on the glass are annoying af


GardenBro_ohno

If you had front row seats you wouldn’t hit the glass at least once?


nolan1971

Nah. I did a little when I was younger, though. I normally ignore it though, but these guys are pretty egregious about it.


Kornja81

Think smith needs some AHL time. He looks awful. Nico was invisible again. Hes either hurt or unmotivated right now.


wbradford00

genius. pull bernier with two mins and three goals down


jerrosen14

“This is how I win” - ruff


Fartburst

Gotta be better on the road…


mrSeven3Two

"what about Gudas?"


NJDevs26

Tough building


Franzblau

😂


Franzblau

WHAT ABOUT GUDAS


FireGase

Team needs wood to lay the wood. I feel like they just aren’t good enough to not be physical


xSlyy

oh shut up dano- learning still 😫 ITS BEEN A DECADE and were still in the special ed classes


JerseyDev93

Has any Devil even been on the Devils for 10 years? Maybe Sevo but I don't think anyones hit 10 years with us besides him


xSlyy

nah not even close- just hate being bad for so long


AvianLawman

Shit these kids have been on the team for a decade?


jerrosen14

Just lose 4-2, that’s all I ask


DevilJacket2000

Just too weak on the wings.


Signal_Strike2770

Sharangovich, Kuok and Tatar basically all being invisible is not something I had planned for this year


mrSeven3Two

Not good tonight


theold_man

Aiight time for this epic comeback


walked_past

Trade someone. What we lose.


Mactan

Unpopular opinion but Evander Kane will do wonders for this team.


39thUsernameAttempt

You're absolutely right. That is definitely an unpopular opinion.


mrSeven3Two

Just don't tell him about Atlantic City


Maurice_Acuna22

LMFAOO


Mactan

He's just the Dennis Rodman of hockey


Frenchthealpaca

This game, whatever. They should have won the fucking ranger game.


tank4249

Bernier’s helmet is pretty Gangster


xSlyy

if lindy ruff’s goofy old ass walks out after this game and tries to tell us about unluckiness and how it was a good effort im gonna kms


NJDevs26

Maybe you can blame unluckiness if you lost by 1 but not 3


gshaw34

Can we have the Kevin Dineen watch on.


GoudaGoudaGoudaGouda

Can Relief Bernier play every game?


jerrosen14

We’d have 60 shots by now if we could hit the net


Down_Rodeo_

We’d have a 3 goal period in the first if we could finish chances


maqdiaf

So is Bernier our 1A now?


mrSeven3Two

Always has been


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HopelessEsq

Wtf this bot is amazing


kevinbaseball52

Just getting absolutely bullied and taking it like a bitch


xSlyy

i love getting shit on physically when WERE down 3 goals :)


Franzblau

I think it’s encouraging that we’re finally at a point where we can (mostly) reliably beat the teams we’re supposed to beat. We’re establishing a floor, getting more solid.


xSlyy

we lost to cbj, anaheim and LA which teams did we beat that we should beat?


GoudaGoudaGoudaGouda

Every team you listed has a positive record and the Ducks are top of their division. Where have you been?


mrSeven3Two

The Pacific is the worst division in hockey


GoudaGoudaGoudaGouda

Uhhh I knew somebody would say that. Sick of hearing this stupid argument. The pacific division isn’t bad and has nothing to do with Anaheim having a good record right now. Also the Coyotes aren’t even in the Pacific anymore . The Pacific is bad argument needs to die


xSlyy

which of those teams has more talent than ours? even without jack theyre over performing and we are not


GoudaGoudaGoudaGouda

Anaheim clearly


Devil_Dane

While I can make the argument that our roster has the potential and some elite talent, the Ducks are making the most of their roster. I gotta admit that after a few years of complete suck-a-tude, the Ducks somehow have gotten much better, with young’ins like Troy Terry, Trevor Zegras, plus goalie god John Gibson. Having watched every game so far this season, I’m genuinely amazed.


xSlyy

gonna have to disagree that roster is better than ours lmfao


GoudaGoudaGoudaGouda

You’re laughing at them and they’re probably laughing back


xSlyy

yes because their mediocre roster is playing great hockey… im sure theyre happy i am jealous because our mediocre roster is losing evety night now not sure what your angle is here


GoudaGoudaGoudaGouda

That they may actually be better than us and we overvalue our team because it’s Our team


xSlyy

sure but also… no our top pairing is dougie hamilton and ryan graves theres is lindholm and a rookie drysdale


JerseyDev93

You may have a point with Columbus and LA but putting Anaheim in that group doesn't make any sense..


NJDevs26

Well 1-1 is a good split against a team with 2 regulation losses


maqdiaf

How does a team with this few fans get this good this fast


EnjoiDank

Panthers fan here, dont kill me lol. We have had our fair share of shit for many years. Nothing was fast about this come up


zoom100000

If attendance determined performance on the ice I would not feel great about our chances to win a cup this decade lol


xSlyy

govy looking like himself again at least- if he keeps playing like this he will score


maqdiaf

That shango goal would’ve been GLORIOUS


maqdiaf

HEY WHAT ABOUT GUDAS??


xSlyy

2 goals today mack dropped his glove when it was going high- weird


paddytoggs

They have to be pumping noise into that place right? I’d rather catch a game at Mennan Arena


Brokenluckx3

Zetterlund looks like a combination of Blake Pickles Coleman & Phil Kessel lol


maqdiaf

Impressive, zetterlund wants it


TallerWindow

Zetterlund’s headshot is intimidating to me


gleeson630

Zetterlund is Phil Kessel’s Swedish brother.


Devil_Dane

What’s the Swedish version of the hot dog?


gleeson630

The Lingonberrydog


Devil_Dane

Edit: The good: Found a recipe! The queasy: It's a reindeer hot dog!


NJDevs26

McLeod knocked that chance away from Dougie


gleeson630

I’m srry but we need more than 1 even strength goal from Nico is 15 games. Tatar…ridiculous. Excuse time over. In the end the production is still low. Full Dcore…both goalies. No excuses. Better start winning games after this loss to compete at all in this division. They get harder from here in out. And the “Next years” are getting old. There’s like 1 more in me before I explode.


GoudaGoudaGoudaGouda

Tatar, totally agree. Nico no. He’s been playing well lately. Also who cares if most of his recent points have been PP. Isn’t that a good thing? Had he scored only even strength points would you be saying he needs to do more on the PP


gleeson630

The aggressiveness/playmaking is not there even strength, PP points are easier to come by. He has 2 goals in 15 games regardless. The goals being more just net mouth goals, which would be fine if there were more. But largely hasn’t improved since his rookie year offensively. We need offense from him to win. Johnsson is not likely to supply it going forward.


gshaw34

Nico looks like a third line center right now, when we need him to be a first line center producing offense. What exactly has he done lately. I hate getting on the guy but it’s time


Jermtheworm2112

Couldnt agree more with this. When hughes comes back just bump nico to third line. Cant fuck with Bratt-Mercer-Johnson its the only thing we have going at the moment besides dougie hamilton.


fartswhenhappy

Bruh. It's November and we're 1 point out of a Wild Card spot. We're exactly where most optimistic projections of our season had us.


gleeson630

That’s bc our expectations suck. Who adds a norris caliber defenseman, a top 4/top pair guy, a supposed top 6, and a fringe starter…as well as a great rookie center….And still is mediocre. We know the deal man. It doesn’t go up from here waiting for Hughes to come back. It gets tougher. The first game against Florida was a lucky game. Look back at our wins. They were against struggling or meh teams.


jerrosen14

*sad post noises*


maqdiaf

Devils def have the edge in this period, just not sure that it translates to 3 goals


xSlyy

another pipe jfc


Devil_Dane

That was a sweet set of moves from Kuok. I can't hate the hustle. Plus, as always, thanks, Vats!


MartysBetter29

This game stinks!


Signal_Strike2770

Just give me a good 20 minute effort


xSlyy

start the period with a failed zone exit :) your neewwwww jersey devils


MartysBetter29

Still hear kevin clark


jerrosen14

Even if we lose atleast we can still go 74-5-3


giantsmetsdevils

UNBRIDLED OPTIMISM


BEzzzzG

Someone posted the overhead angle and it clearly shows he doesnt have control https://v.redd.it/vib6cqk8jg081


intertak

I disagree. That angle shows him in complete control.


BEzzzzG

the puck bounces off his stick towards his skate away from where he was trying to angle his stick. It doesnt matter in the scheme of the game though since they went onto score again and we killed the penalty for the challenge


GoudaGoudaGoudaGouda

It’s Spencer “career .898 save%” Knight. I know we’re capable of coming back. Shango and Tatar need to finish


Devil_Dane

I dunno. Maybe, just maybe, the **Kraken!** should not be released.


OhHowdyDoody

Fuck everything but the 3rd period. I don't give two flying fucks about the past. 3 goals is doable all you gotta do is fuck it


BrunnersNose

Fuckin rights bud


TallerWindow

Overall we’re only getting slightly outshot. Would be great if we had a little more luck.


mrmattyf

The Panthers are dominating


Maurice_Acuna22

Idk why you’re getting downvoted for stating the obvious


mrmattyf

I thought it was pretty obvious even without the score.


YankeeCityzen

I know I'm stating the obvious, but we badly need finishers. Rango and Tatar need to step the fuck up


GoudaGoudaGoudaGouda

Eww Rango. He’s not a chameleon


Alphonse_Mocha

> He’s not a chameleon Hate to say it, but he's certainly disappeared into the background.


zoom100000

Let’s go devils!!!! we’re gonna hustle this 3rd period


Maurice_Acuna22

God I wish I had your optimism


zoom100000

It’s a blessing and a curse. Just grateful to watch our devils. Realistic fans this year were looking to see us play meaningful games late into this season. Without Jack, we are absolutely still on track for that, no?


Devil_Dane

*" Just grateful to watch our Devils."* 100%. This does not get said enough.


zoom100000

Yeah man! I know we all badly want a cup but growing up watching the team, seeing 3 stanley cups come home, it’s hard to be too upset about the past 10 years. Things are going in the right direction for sure.


Devil_Dane

Yup. I’ve been a fan since 1994, so I’ve seen the best, and I’ve endured the rest. I think for the first time in awhile, this team is on the right track.


eburton555

Rough night from Blackwood otherwise this would be a 1-1 game. Gotta see. If the boys can make a come back


dadphobia

No way man, maybe the D shouldn’t let just anyone walk into the zone


eburton555

Don’t think he would have been pulled if ruff agreed


dadphobia

Ruff has said multiple times throughout his tenure that he believes pulling the goalie is often less about the goalie’s performance and more about how the team is performing in front of him.


eburton555

Well I’ll be damned if that’s true. Anyways he let up some goals that he shouldn’t have, not sure I agree with ya regardless. Bernier was much stronger, Much more poised, and made some good desperation saves. Blackwood let in two right over his glove and one five hole. I’m sure he wants them back.


sendingSTRENGTH

Devils absolutely dominate the first and have a TIED game to show for it…. A… tied…… Game…. Panthers have a good period and pot 3, simple as that.


mxskater

Probably won’t compete until huges gets back.


Maurice_Acuna22

If the team relies on Hughes to be good then they aren’t a good team.


mxskater

We’ll no one ever accused them of being good


boilface

Well that period is over


xSlyy

i love severson but he is a master of failed zone exits maybe by the time hes 30 he’ll have the poise necessary to clear the zone


YrAssIsAParachute

Poise, Depends... he'll definitely be in one of them before he figures it out


xSlyy

play the body dougie… your 9 feet tall just push him


BitchAssWaferCookie

Just stomp your feet Dougie, it'll shake the ice


dadphobia

Oh you call that though


Shadow_of_Yor

Wtf why are we letting them walk all over us. The way we’re playing rn it should be 1-9


YrAssIsAParachute

Stage 1: Stabilization Status: Accomplished


maqdiaf

If you guys can’t handle this team at a 1-4 deficit, don’t come crawling back to us when we lose 3-5 😎


mrSeven3Two

4 on 1 lmao.


tank4249

Can we call up Dineen?


gshaw34

Amen to that. Please


Anonycron

Ty Smith is bad at defense.


boilface

Nice quick shot by Mercer


ucallthesebagels

Clear hook on Mercer


xSlyy

better they donr call it


dadphobia

Mercer = Hughes lite


TallerWindow

Yeah when he gets the puck I feel the same way as when Hughes does


dadphobia

Hughes controls and dances with it better, honestly almost like a small barkov


TallerWindow

You’re right, I just mean both seem to be able to create stuff out of nothing at any point and they stand out on this team for that


whichwitch9

I mean, Mercer looks like a more defensively sound rookie Hughes, actually


xSlyy

weegar is a top 10 dman top 1 defensive defenseman imo


influentialsyrup

Bud he got walked by fuckin K’Andre Miller the other night