I understand our expectations overall aren't high for this year with all things considered, but the special teams are inexcusable.
You had a training camp. You had preseason games. Consistent lazy, careless, undisciplined piece of shit performances.
Its frustrating because abysmal announcing like this feeds into sexist assholes who salivate at a chance to blame this on her gender. Idiocy aside, is there not someone who could be doing this job better? This isn’t a minor league telecast, its ESPN theres gotta be a standard.
I get it, but like i mentioned somewhere else, if her last name wasn't Hextall, she woulnd't have the job she has. It would be sexist not to call her out just because shes a woman also. But i get you and ops point.
that would require them to actually treat people as individuals - they care about the fact that they can say a female is in that slot… and thats it
its horribly sexist but its become the norm
This is when I wish someone like Scott Stevens was assistant coach. He would literally throw a bench at them for this shit effort they gave tonight. Its almost like when they play in Colorado and you can see them with no energy from the altitude difference. No compete on the devils today. I get our "STARS" are injured, but isnt the point of a young team to BECOME stars?
I'm just so tired after so many years of seeing devils players/staff with no passion. Like i get it, you have to be professional, but fuck man, put the heart in it too. Make them ride the bikes for a few hours post game. I remember Lou would make them do that when they would get blown out at home.
Yeah they are playing like shit but….hear me out. Imagine the excuse making if NYR were missing Panarin, Fox, and Shesterkin. We’re dealing with the equivalent on top of other key pieces who are or have been injured. Need to see this team with a healthy full core.
These idiots are falling over their own skates, cant make a pass that matters. Literally trash play today, this game is a wash please erase this from my mind. Holy fuck this game is frustrating to watch
Our ability to maintain offensive zone pressure outside the first 10 minutes of this game has been pathetic. Rush in, weak shot or turnover, then back to our zone for a full minute at least.
Yep it was a beautiful pass too, forgot that specific play. I have no issue with the guy but I dont think its unfair to say he has not been remotely up to standard so far.
i liked it too, i don’t know wtf is wrong with the majority of the forward group.. i would only single tatar out cause he’s a new signing and vet of sorts but really we have like 4 players that can score on a good night
Yeah he hasnt stood out as worse than the others I think I just commented that after a terrible looking play in the dzone lol. About 7-8 out of 12 forwards need to look themselves in the mirror after this one and ask if they can be doing more.
I wonder if the Devils ticket reps just drink heavily when they watch these games and know they have to do cold calls tomorrow to try and sell tickets.
Really wouldnt mind Lindy making a point at the end here (last 5 or so) and rolling two lines of guys who give a shit tonight. Some form of Vesey, Mercer, McLeod, Studenic, Gauthier (?), Bratt (?). Game is out of reach anyways a lot of guys deserve to be shown up tonight.
Does everyone have to listen to these ESPN commentators? My ears are bleeding and the amount of naming mistakes about players and goalies is crazy.
How many times will she say something like "that was fire". Omg
ESPN is cursing us
I love how everyone attacks a coach and has no answer for the the 6-7 pucks sitting in the crease with an empty net and nobody burying it. That’s on the players. And the devils would normally not miss those to this extent. Turnovers or sloppy play aside, the momentum completely shifts if they even bury 1/3 of those empty chances, and we are leading this game.
Might as well just not hire coaches, seems like they have no accountability for the on ice performance.
I guess the players just decided for themselves what systems to run. It seems to be working out very well for them!!!
It’s not no accountability, it’s not calling for a firing of staff after only two blowouts with some incredibly positive changes on offense during wins and subsequently having to beg people to seek reason when calling for firings. Same issues 15 games in, maybe 20, then make the change by all means.
No one's really attacking Ruff. Everybody know's he's an interim solution until we're better anyway. It's the fucking assistants in charge of the PK and PP that had sucked in a major way for what feels like decades.
our pp plan is currently to dump and chase and then pass back and forth between 2 point men like ping pong…. thats not on the players (who are to blame for sucking also)
I'm confused, are you a Devils fan? Like do you watch these games?
We are playing dump and chase hockey without any players that can forecheck and have the collective skill of a playoff team's bottom 6. What you are saying is not even comparable to what is happening on the ice.
Holy cow are YOU watching? 2 lines carrying the puck in with speed on every play, especially Bratt and Hischier with their speed, generating solid offensive chances for the first half of the game and having pucks sitting on the crease just waiting for a tap in from their good play. Losses happen. I don’t see how you perceive this as dump and chase when until it got out of hand, it was utilizing a lot of speed into the zone. 3-0 yea players get mad and it falls apart
This basically solidifies my thinking that you aren't really watching these games.
A vast majority of our zone entries are dump and chase, we carry the puck in very rarely, and when we do its almost always directly into the defenders legs.
So by your logic we magically took random soft shots from the point and had 28-27 in shots despite being drastically outplayed? Did those pucks get dumped in, turned over, then magically shoot themselves? Metrics of shot-possession were above average and most of the shots were taken from in front of the net. 68% rate on shots toward the net from INSIDE the hash marks and below in the first 2 periods. Explain to me how this happens from dump and chase turnovers?
The horrible play overshadows the reality. They were closer to the paint in 2/3 of their attempts toward net, whether they were blocked, missed the net, or saved.
I standby the statement that if even 2* of those open nets went in, we’d be looking at another OT game.
perhaps when jack hughes retires without a cup and 2 playoffs wins- they’ll be like huh mahbe we should fire these dogass coaches
fitzy allowing this to happen is a big red X on his report card… weve been here with shero
I have zero trust in management if you can watch this display and not make a coaching change. The PP and PK have been this way for years. When is it enough? Why wait until the end of the season to make changes that should have happened years ago?
Embarrassing game. Had 5 good minutes then our shitty special teams sucked the life out of us. I’m so done with recchi and Nas. Last year they got a pass from some because of Covid and it causing a lack of practice, but it’s evident their systems just suck.
What are we, 4 years into saying fire nas? Has he even been here that long? Sign whoever the fuck you want, management. Spend all the money in the world on players. Put them in front of this coaching staff and continue to never be able to ice a full team and you're gonna find out exactly how many years of fandom 3 cups buys. It's not much fucking longer, I can tell you that much.
Remember the first 10 minutes of the game when we looked really good and it felt like just a matter of time before Nico scored a goal or two on those one timers from the slot
Tonight ended up going much worse than I expected and I blame myself for letting my girlfriend come over after drinks with her friends
What is this game absolutely horrendous, why are you even on the ice to play such poor shifts. Why does Recchi still have a job?? WHAT IS THIS POWERPLAY?
Ive been against it but feel like it really is Holtz time. Not because it is necessarily best for his development, but this team needs him rn. Missing a dynamic threat without Hughes.
To what end though? Do you think this Team makes the playoffs if only we have Holtz? Seems to me this team is not playoff bound no matter who you bring up. So do what’s best for their development.
Lower body injury better just be diarrhea. Losing our best forward in Hughes, followed by both of our starting goaltenders, followed by our best defenseman is some seriously horrific luck
Oh I do. I’m not saying this season feels like that just the game as we are getting embarrassed by one of the only teams who have been worse than us for years.
If Ruff is going to only award playing time to guys who give a shit, after Mercer, Vesey, McLeod, and Graves, we still need another body if we're going to field 5 guys for 60 minutes.
Playing like this against the Ducks is unacceptable. But also this team isn’t doing anything this year with Hughes and now Hamilton hurt. Extremely frustrating.
Fourth star of the game: Ty Smith's diary for being mentioned before Hamilton missing an entire period of hockey.
That sucked. I need to relive some of my most embarrassing moments from high school in my head just to forget about this.
How much do you think we would have to put together to bribe them to just show Mercer's flow all game on nights like this?
Did he get that cut on his face tonight? That had to hurt
How much does Recchi make? I'll take half and do the same job,
Couldn’t get any worse
"I've got all the confidence in the world obviously" what a statement haha
I honestly think they are just thinking way too much on both the pp and pk. It needs to be quicker and more confident. Too slow and methodical.
It sure was slow, but idk about methodical.
Fine "plodding"
Well I'm glad she's proud of herself at least. To sleep with a smile. Blissful ignorance.
Bernier first star of the game! Good for him
😂
Zooka salvaged a miserable game. It was worth the watch to hear that.
I’m calling him Zooka here on out.
Congrats to Bernier on the shutout
That 3rd period was anemic and embarrassing.
Needed more from Zookah tonight. Really need a goal from Sarahgovich too, and Hischshshshshire needs to step it up
I understand our expectations overall aren't high for this year with all things considered, but the special teams are inexcusable. You had a training camp. You had preseason games. Consistent lazy, careless, undisciplined piece of shit performances.
It’s the system of special teams choices I think
What are the chances that I would see two of my teams get shut out 0-4 in the same night
Bernier announces his retirement
I could have been at this game. I'm so glad I decided against it.
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Seriously though we’ve taken like 9 penalties this game, are the coaches really going to keep ignoring that issue?
What are the names of these commentators lmao
Kevin Weekes is the one with all the inside knowledge on Dougie, Leah Hextall is the one that *definitely* knows what team Bernier is on.
any relation to the other hextall?
Yea Ron hextalls cousin
Color commentator is former Devils backup Kevin Weekes!
And who's the other? :D
Fuck our PK is deadly!! Praise Nas!
down 0-4…. chance to send studenic on a breakaway and he send it down the ice???
Its frustrating because abysmal announcing like this feeds into sexist assholes who salivate at a chance to blame this on her gender. Idiocy aside, is there not someone who could be doing this job better? This isn’t a minor league telecast, its ESPN theres gotta be a standard.
I can almost guarantee that if her last name wasn't Hextall, and Rob and Bryan weren't direct relatives, she would be no where near this broadcast.
Its not sexism. She's genuinely terrible. Weekes wasn't much better, but she is honestly trash.
He was saying the fact that she is so bad feeds into bias against female announcers. She's genuinely terrible.
I get it, but like i mentioned somewhere else, if her last name wasn't Hextall, she woulnd't have the job she has. It would be sexist not to call her out just because shes a woman also. But i get you and ops point.
Yeah weekes wasnt good either. Really disappointing from ESPN. TNT much better early on.
i mean she almost certainly was forced into the role because of the fact shes a girl and not much else- espn is pretty blatant with doing that
espn has been slotting attractive and attractive sounding women regardless of knowledge into broadcasts
But are there not females who can be doing a better job than this? They should have had plenty of options.
that would require them to actually treat people as individuals - they care about the fact that they can say a female is in that slot… and thats it its horribly sexist but its become the norm
This is when I wish someone like Scott Stevens was assistant coach. He would literally throw a bench at them for this shit effort they gave tonight. Its almost like when they play in Colorado and you can see them with no energy from the altitude difference. No compete on the devils today. I get our "STARS" are injured, but isnt the point of a young team to BECOME stars?
they probably got lazy with that long homestand and forgot that travelling means getting up earlier
I'm just so tired after so many years of seeing devils players/staff with no passion. Like i get it, you have to be professional, but fuck man, put the heart in it too. Make them ride the bikes for a few hours post game. I remember Lou would make them do that when they would get blown out at home.
Fucking Mickey Mouse team
Wait Zacha? I thought Zooka took the penalty
Aw man, we still suck, don't we
fun fact, we've been outshot on the powerplay 4-3
Nucks beat the rags how bout that
Zeverson
This ice time graphic on the PPs is so obnoxious
Yeah it would be a little more interesting if they showed the pk time on ice
Doesn’t matter. We suck at both.
At least that would be relevant when the D is pinned down but even then having a bunch of ticking clocks across the top of the screen is absurd.
Agreed
In Leah's defense, Subban doesn't know how to pronounce Nico's last name.
I think that was on purpose, he was saying goofy things for all their names.
Really miss Miles bowling into goalies on breakaways
Lol from a source. The team announced it, weekesy
Just remember that we used to have Doc Emerick.
The universe is finding balance
Yeah they are playing like shit but….hear me out. Imagine the excuse making if NYR were missing Panarin, Fox, and Shesterkin. We’re dealing with the equivalent on top of other key pieces who are or have been injured. Need to see this team with a healthy full core.
Zooka lol. she literally mispronounces half the players names wrong. I think shes pronounced Zegras 3 different ways tonight too
Studenic, Gautier, Kuokkannen. Holtz is better than all 3. Waste of time
Pavel Zuko vs the Anaheim Aangels.
Pavel Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuka
Wow. Well done. I just heard this in our stadium announcer's voice.
:D I did my best hahaahaha
she really said pavel zooka and thought we wouldn’t notice
Pavel Zuka? Did she just make him some sort of hybrid with Danny Zuko from grease???
Can someone please make a full list of all the dumb shit she’s said tonight?
And mail it to ESPN
Pav is playing like a real Pavel Zooka tonight
I just wanted to see one goal. Easily one of the worst games they've played in a while. 2 too many men. No one seems to give a shit.
Pavel Zucca
tough break for pavel zooka
PAVO ZOOKA this is why you dont force people into positions because of whether they have a cock or not….
Is Pavel Zooka as big a first round bust as Pavel Zacha?
Ah yes, Pavel Zucha
These idiots are falling over their own skates, cant make a pass that matters. Literally trash play today, this game is a wash please erase this from my mind. Holy fuck this game is frustrating to watch
pavel zucka
Pavel zucca!
Paval ZOOKA DA BAZOOKA
Pavel Zoo-cha
Zooka to the box
ZOOKA
Pavel Zooka. *sigh.*
Zucha
Pavel Zookuh
ZOOKA!!!
nhl team cannot skate or pass at a professional level
Weakness of depth has never been more apparent. It’s not good when the 12th man Studenic is skating circles around the top six.
Not sure why I’m still watching. Only reason I watched blowouts last year was in hope of Jack doing something cool
Vesey being one of the best players on the Devils is the whole problem...
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gonna go out on a limb and say they were a bit below average
That’s an incredibly hot take, would you consider a job as an ESPN analyst?
dude bernier is about to get a shutout.. what are u smoking!
Yea that’s why the devils fans were so happy before
Games like this make me miss Bastian.
Honestly might as well trade for Bastian Rooney Anderson and Butcher back at this point
Yes, yes, yes, and no - between Smith, Graves, and Siegs, we don’t need Butcher rn
Our ability to maintain offensive zone pressure outside the first 10 minutes of this game has been pathetic. Rush in, weak shot or turnover, then back to our zone for a full minute at least.
5 unanswered goals incoming
by the ducks maybe
Tatar been 💩 all year
like 75% of our forwards are invisible
Absolutely. And i liked the tatar signing and i still think he’ll be good. But hasnt done anything well thus far.
He fed Mercer his first goal
Yep it was a beautiful pass too, forgot that specific play. I have no issue with the guy but I dont think its unfair to say he has not been remotely up to standard so far.
i liked it too, i don’t know wtf is wrong with the majority of the forward group.. i would only single tatar out cause he’s a new signing and vet of sorts but really we have like 4 players that can score on a good night
Yeah he hasnt stood out as worse than the others I think I just commented that after a terrible looking play in the dzone lol. About 7-8 out of 12 forwards need to look themselves in the mirror after this one and ask if they can be doing more.
agreed friend, hopefully we won’t see a shit show like this for some time.. be well
You too, u/myinvisibleerection
I wonder if the Devils ticket reps just drink heavily when they watch these games and know they have to do cold calls tomorrow to try and sell tickets.
i'm pretty sure mine quit, I got 2 calls from her in the off-season, a couple emails and that was it
They all quit. They are not needed.
Sharangusev
Getting credit for trying lol
I'm pretty sure she doesn't know the names of most Devils players
She knows Bernier.
there’s gibson getzlaf.. she’s no dummy pal
finally killing a penalty when it doesn’t mean jack shit 🥴
Incoming assistant coach David Quinn
How many penalties have we taken in the past three games?
I know it feels like this can’t get any worse, but just imagine if Blackwood ends up making his debut tonight.
Did she just call Gauthier “Derek Grant”?
It’s a childhood nickname
Can’t decide what’s worse, our power play, our penalty kill, or this broadcast
Really wouldnt mind Lindy making a point at the end here (last 5 or so) and rolling two lines of guys who give a shit tonight. Some form of Vesey, Mercer, McLeod, Studenic, Gauthier (?), Bratt (?). Game is out of reach anyways a lot of guys deserve to be shown up tonight.
Does everyone have to listen to these ESPN commentators? My ears are bleeding and the amount of naming mistakes about players and goalies is crazy. How many times will she say something like "that was fire". Omg ESPN is cursing us
Mute game. Turn on music 🎶
Have they not showed any replays?
They showed Stevens' hit on Kariya, and then Kariya coming back to score a goal.
maybe 2 at the beginning
If we’re gonna play like this I’d rather watch Kenny agostino and jsd to make it feel right
Another penalty. Hah! Can't tank our even strength goal stat if we keep letting them get PP goals!!
I love how everyone attacks a coach and has no answer for the the 6-7 pucks sitting in the crease with an empty net and nobody burying it. That’s on the players. And the devils would normally not miss those to this extent. Turnovers or sloppy play aside, the momentum completely shifts if they even bury 1/3 of those empty chances, and we are leading this game.
3 of the ducks goals were scored when are special teams were on the ice it falls to their responsibility for this suckage
Might as well just not hire coaches, seems like they have no accountability for the on ice performance. I guess the players just decided for themselves what systems to run. It seems to be working out very well for them!!!
It’s not no accountability, it’s not calling for a firing of staff after only two blowouts with some incredibly positive changes on offense during wins and subsequently having to beg people to seek reason when calling for firings. Same issues 15 games in, maybe 20, then make the change by all means.
No one's really attacking Ruff. Everybody know's he's an interim solution until we're better anyway. It's the fucking assistants in charge of the PK and PP that had sucked in a major way for what feels like decades.
It’s because of how inept they look. It has to be a coaching issue. Not burying chances is one thing but everything else?
If it was possible to "fire" everyone who dressed tonight I'd be all for it.
our pp plan is currently to dump and chase and then pass back and forth between 2 point men like ping pong…. thats not on the players (who are to blame for sucking also)
Ironic considering the intended PP is utilized by 2 of the top teams last year. Passes intercepted is the big issue on those. 20+ turnovers
I'm confused, are you a Devils fan? Like do you watch these games? We are playing dump and chase hockey without any players that can forecheck and have the collective skill of a playoff team's bottom 6. What you are saying is not even comparable to what is happening on the ice.
Holy cow are YOU watching? 2 lines carrying the puck in with speed on every play, especially Bratt and Hischier with their speed, generating solid offensive chances for the first half of the game and having pucks sitting on the crease just waiting for a tap in from their good play. Losses happen. I don’t see how you perceive this as dump and chase when until it got out of hand, it was utilizing a lot of speed into the zone. 3-0 yea players get mad and it falls apart
This basically solidifies my thinking that you aren't really watching these games. A vast majority of our zone entries are dump and chase, we carry the puck in very rarely, and when we do its almost always directly into the defenders legs.
So by your logic we magically took random soft shots from the point and had 28-27 in shots despite being drastically outplayed? Did those pucks get dumped in, turned over, then magically shoot themselves? Metrics of shot-possession were above average and most of the shots were taken from in front of the net. 68% rate on shots toward the net from INSIDE the hash marks and below in the first 2 periods. Explain to me how this happens from dump and chase turnovers? The horrible play overshadows the reality. They were closer to the paint in 2/3 of their attempts toward net, whether they were blocked, missed the net, or saved. I standby the statement that if even 2* of those open nets went in, we’d be looking at another OT game.
perhaps it would work better if the team could pass at a professional level
Why am I still watching this? What is wrong with me?
perhaps when jack hughes retires without a cup and 2 playoffs wins- they’ll be like huh mahbe we should fire these dogass coaches fitzy allowing this to happen is a big red X on his report card… weve been here with shero
Don’t worry, if this continues both Hughes will join Quinn in Van and win over there.
I have zero trust in management if you can watch this display and not make a coaching change. The PP and PK have been this way for years. When is it enough? Why wait until the end of the season to make changes that should have happened years ago?
Studenic playing hard. Lot of guys should take notes.
Embarrassing game. Had 5 good minutes then our shitty special teams sucked the life out of us. I’m so done with recchi and Nas. Last year they got a pass from some because of Covid and it causing a lack of practice, but it’s evident their systems just suck.
Literally were dominating until our 1st PP. That should really say something.
What are we, 4 years into saying fire nas? Has he even been here that long? Sign whoever the fuck you want, management. Spend all the money in the world on players. Put them in front of this coaching staff and continue to never be able to ice a full team and you're gonna find out exactly how many years of fandom 3 cups buys. It's not much fucking longer, I can tell you that much.
Remember the first 10 minutes of the game when we looked really good and it felt like just a matter of time before Nico scored a goal or two on those one timers from the slot Tonight ended up going much worse than I expected and I blame myself for letting my girlfriend come over after drinks with her friends
The string of physical and puck battles that they are losing tonight, especially leading up to that short handed goal, is impressive.
What is this game absolutely horrendous, why are you even on the ice to play such poor shifts. Why does Recchi still have a job?? WHAT IS THIS POWERPLAY?
It's concerning that we're not even getting blown out by a good team. If this was Carolina or Florida fine. This is bad.
Lower body ‘day to day’ :(
After missing 30 minutes of ice time, Hamilton not returning tonight isn't exactly the news flash you're making it out to be
Ive been against it but feel like it really is Holtz time. Not because it is necessarily best for his development, but this team needs him rn. Missing a dynamic threat without Hughes.
To what end though? Do you think this Team makes the playoffs if only we have Holtz? Seems to me this team is not playoff bound no matter who you bring up. So do what’s best for their development.
Lower body injury better just be diarrhea. Losing our best forward in Hughes, followed by both of our starting goaltenders, followed by our best defenseman is some seriously horrific luck
If Dougie out long term someone just give me milk of the poppy
hextall just trolling at this point
We are perfectly back into 2016 form. This is humiliating and it looks like no ones even trying to fix the situation
I'm not sure if you quite remember 2016 as painfully as it was.
Oh I do. I’m not saying this season feels like that just the game as we are getting embarrassed by one of the only teams who have been worse than us for years.
Ah, misunderstood!
Lower body injury, fuck fuck fuck
If our special teams were even remotely ok, this game is at least close. still not confident we WIN but meh
Correction: We are not 0/5 on the power play. We are -1/5.
There's just nothing here.
Deleting my eyes to stop the depression from witnessing this game
If Ruff is going to only award playing time to guys who give a shit, after Mercer, Vesey, McLeod, and Graves, we still need another body if we're going to field 5 guys for 60 minutes.
BRING UP HOLTZ
we can't keep rolling out 2 ineffective lines each night. bring up some reinforcements plz
i hope they continue to score on us and we get shutout we deserve it.. wanna hear ruff answer for this train wreck
Where’s the guy with the PAIN meter posts?
Don’t think he made the chart big enough
Too much for him to handle
Goodnight 😞
Playing like this against the Ducks is unacceptable. But also this team isn’t doing anything this year with Hughes and now Hamilton hurt. Extremely frustrating.
Who is PP coach is it still Recci?