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DarthDonut

Sorry baby but I'm still married to Crown Splitter.


A1L1N

I love my crown splitter. It's the main reason I swapped from warlock to titan. That and cuirass thunder crash.


mythic_dawn_cultist

Me except dunemarchers throwing hammer


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mythic_dawn_cultist

The Solar rework is gonna hit different with that build :)


Weird-Hospital-8892

Are you me??


MrCuntman

Welcome to the team


WitcherSLF

Ayyy my warlock is in storage until witch queen , that crown splitter slam is just


WSilvermane

Nothing replaces it.


Judgeman2021

Love the hell out of my FG but Crown Splitter is a nice change of pace and slamming it for the heavy attack just feels so nice.


grrmuffins

Nothing will beat that feeling of flying high before you crash back down to split your enemy in two.


KungFuChicken1990

I miss energy accelerant :’(


Breadfruit-Brilliant

Same. I made my crown splitter into the Crucible from DOOM ETERNAL!!!


CoffeeMain360

How? What shader?


Breadfruit-Brilliant

Conflagrate


Zroutledges

If only eternity could roll whirlwind… I just like the swords look more 🤷‍♂️


ZK950

I got from first drop when got back the game and oh boiii. I can skip the boss fight now lol


DMA_Revenant

This especially applies now that the Lament has been nerfed.


Agioktis_Martyr-Mind

Honestly still slaps Paired with Lucent blade and nothing ground or sky can escape my Wrath >:D


Ordinary_Player

Ye, I like the lament more when I need that dps difference. Really noticeable when doing prophecy’s phalanx encounter solo.


no_one_ever__

Makes me miss being able to use witherhoard w breach and clear to follow up with an En Garde Quickfang. Felt like being able to use a full loadout of legendary weapons.


Yawanoc

Until Lament glitches out on you and decides to not work properly :(


cherry_choco_tart

when you rev the blade and it still decides to give you standard damage, whirlwind blade falling guillotine and witherhoard do better damage as well from what I remember


Yawanoc

When your first slash phalanxes your beyond the target and into a wall


dragon864789

"You just ain't doing it right" -engineer from tf2 Tbh what ever sword kills a champion faster, is a win win to me , more so if I need to mod or combo to do so


SenseiRP

Wait lament got nerfed?


Kuro-Yaksha

multiple times actually


RumaruDrathas

Honestly, I rock FG more often than Lament. Frees up an exotic slot. Actually, I don't remember the last time I used Lament... DSC? Maybe a Heroic LS?


Kangarou

This season's a good time with passive Guard mod and barrier champions.


Voller_Faulheit

Also overload on swords


Immortalchungus

Lament is inherently barrier, no?


Voller_Faulheit

Yes, when you rev it. But there's also the artifact mods which makes swords have the overload thing. So your lament is good for both barriers and overload. Which is nice to have. Edit: weird that I'm getting downvoted for just stating a fact.


Immortalchungus

Didn’t realize it worked like that, I thought since lament was already barrier, the artifact mod wouldn’t kick in when using it


possiblythepresident

It's because you're wrong about it being good for both overload and barrier. Exotics with innate champion mods can't benefit from seasonal ones -- for example, you can't use Overload Bow on Leviathan's Breath because it already has Unstoppable. Likewise, if you test Lament, it won't trigger a stun on Overloads no matter what since it's already got anti-Barrier.


Black_Knight_7

I alw wondered if Lament unrevved would proc overload. Since unlike every other champ exotic, it needs a specific requirement to activate its AB


RumaruDrathas

Honestly, I ran Lament in a Heroic LS last night to get the Boots of the Assembler. I ran Lament + Overload mod in one of my attempts. Died a bit... I was never comfortable running any mods on Swords because Melee = Quick Death, and essentially becomes useless when trying to tag that one Flying Shank Shield Champion in Concealed Void. I know it's a viable build though, just not last night. I got the boots after my 4th run (RNG wasn't that happy with me).


Voller_Faulheit

Warlocks with swords is kinda meh imo. You don't have much in the way of getting close quickly outside of blink, which has its own issues. Titans and hunters have their own ways of surviving outside of cc'ung everyone with stasis.


JustAwesome360

I tried maining lament but it's too jittery compared to FG. And guillotine has relentless strikes so it never runs out of ammo. That and that it takes an exotic, so the only time I find it useful is for platforming (revved light sends you flying) and DSC atrax.


JDBCool

And the fact that nearly every other barrier champ is *RIGHT* outside in the middle of nowhere.


Roman64s

Like Lament for short bursts of DPS and also the fact that if the physics doesn't screw you over, you can unleash a devastating combo on a flying boss. Guillotine on the other hand, I definitely like for longer DPS phases, nothing is more fun than watching your character turn into a effective Beyblade.


markevens

Love lament on flying bosses. Feel like some anime character going all out.


smaguss

Do you also say under your breath “…I’m sorry master, I have to go all out just this once” I know I do


OmegaDonut13

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igO1u0bc3k&ab\_channel=EMPenguinGaming](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igO1u0bc3k&ab_channel=EMPenguinGaming) is how I feel when I air combo with Lament.


IAMERROR1234

Pop a healing rift down and go to town.


lazersharg

Funny how my Guillotine is 1324


Glasedount

One is raze lighter on steroids and another is dark drinker on steroids


Frostyler

FG is actually Dark Drinker off of steroids.


SouthPenguinJay

Ye dark drinker was kinda broken, now imagine if it also got to have mods like d2 weapons


DarthDregan

That Warlock sword is somewhere on that roof.


NupharAdvena

Its in the garbage pile off screen


ClockZealousideal914

wouldn’t it be better than FG? It didn’t get an individual nerf unlike FG


Voller_Faulheit

But spin tho


ThatguynamedBK

Warlock sword is spinny


Voller_Faulheit

Big spin


IAMERROR1234

https://youtu.be/PGNiXGX2nLU Should be the theme song for FG.


lce_Otter

:( Does Lament still not go through Phalanx shields?


unlivedSoup69

I just like using lament because it makes me feel badass, like seriously A FUCKING CHAINSAW SWORD


RedPandaR10t

YEAH!!!


Breadfruit-Brilliant

Here's the thing. Lament is a chainsaw and Falling Guillotine isn't. One is Warhammer chainsword/Buster Sword hybrid, the other is basically Dragon Slayer from Berserk.


Hiccup7805

I remember the times when both of these came out. The insta nightmare kills with guillotine. The bullshit revving 5 meters from a boss with lament and the walk of shame up to it. The people giving up their favourite weapons just for a shot with these swords


Heronmarkedflail

You guys all love these swords but I still love my Black Talon.


ThatPotatoWithSugar

I love all swords ...except rest for the wicked,fuck that.


Heronmarkedflail

I’ve put my swords down this season for sleeper simulant but I miss them


ThatPotatoWithSugar

Yikes.. at least Banshee is selling a Falling Guillotine godroll today


hurricane_eddie

It isn't Godroll, it is missing Jagged Edge.


KingVendrick

ironically Lament is the lesser weapon, cause it uses up the exotic slot meanwhile the humble proletariat fallen guillotine can pair up with your favorite kinetic or special exotic, no problems


Resident-Salty

Ah, but does guillotine have the sexiest sound on earth? Didn't think so


Ser_Alliser_Thorne

Telesto is besto...even with sexiest sound.


ImTaakoYouKnowFromTV

That healing from Lament can be clutch though.


Stk_synful

Lament dont care about shields, FG does.


dragon864789

Fun fact: any exotic weapon and or armor, takes up an exotic slot, no matter what the argument


WhiteAle01

The main difference now is overload v anti-barrier perk.


KungFuChicken1990

Another difference is taking up exotic slot with a sword (albeit a badass chainsaw sword lol) vs. taking up mod slots with overload sword


WhiteAle01

That is also true. And void v solar. And yeah, the animation with it being a chainsay is way more badass.


MrUchyk

Only that the lament throws you from earth to moon if you lifted your foot of the ground before doing heavy attack


dragon864789

Wait what? There are video on this?


Typical-Quantity8393

Laughs in claymore


ClockZealousideal914

Guillotine got an individual nerf too. After the swords nerf, literally all of the class swords are better than FG.


MrUchyk

Just try to do 3 light 1 heavy combo on uneven terrain vs a big boss


Hefty-Inevitable-660

I used Lament for some barriers in a lost sector the other day and it felt so bad. The rev’d attack didn’t even have the same animation, so I thought I was doing it wrong at first.


Stk_synful

I main the Lament Lucent blade build, its the same as before for the animations. Hell, I did Atheon with the Lament build and matched the damage of other players with meta weapons.... I never give up a chance to go Lament each season with Passive Guard.


Jayynolan

Passive guard is honestly my favourite mod every season it’s around.


Stk_synful

Same, and combine it with the Lament heal and youre very hard to kill.


Jayynolan

Combine it with stronghold gauntlets and you heal on every block with your sword. With protective light as well, your survivability goes through the roof.


Stk_synful

My class exotic is reserved for my invis double dodge, I use the Sixth Coyote chest. Then i have reaping wellmaker where i get a void well once i kill something after I dodge. Then that void well gives me Well of Tenacity for damage reduction, and 2 charges of light per well picked up to power my Lucent Blade buff. Its my favourite build in game right now besides my Warlock's Agers Scepter build.


Jayynolan

Haha, you and everyone else with the agers build now. That thing is wack! Unfortunately I hate stasis on titan now so I’ll probably never even bother with it.


Stk_synful

If youre not on a warlock using it youre doing it wrong, all about mantle of battle harmony giving you your super back in 20 seconds. Then draining that super with the catalyst. Gotta have fun with it before the nerf man, everyone knows that


Jayynolan

Vanilla D1 vet here. I have NEVER started a warlock. I’m fucked, I know. Soon though, soon. It’s gonna be so fresh and fun, excited to be a space wizard. Until then.... punch punch punch!


TheArchType

Is the damage reduction really that much? I haven’t messed with it yet but I was considering it because it enable speed runs of legend lost sectors so much.


Goldchampion200

From what i remember its 50% damage reduction.


Hefty-Inevitable-660

Maybe I don’t use it enough. 2 seasons ago it was so easy, but it has always been clunky and inconsistent for me since the initial nerf.


Pop_Quest

The nerf didn’t change anything about the animation or how long it takes to rev. Its honestly still one of the best exotic heavies and the best sword if you’re not a Titan.


Stk_synful

The only inconsistent mob to hit are the legs of the fallen walker, and servitors. Servitors need your combo to start in the air right in the middle of thier hit box or you get pushed past them when you go to use a finisher, guessing because of the round hit box. Those two have been like that prenerf too though.


PokeD2

? the animation is the same lmfao


Hefty-Inevitable-660

It’s been inconsistent for me. Reminded me of the current issue where guns fire and sound like their basic archetype models.


Cheddarlicious

It’s ironic you choose to use the Lament is the good guy when Clovis >!was most responsible for the collapse!<


ThatPotatoWithSugar

A lore-acurrate reason about why I use Falling Guillotine


NotZelda859

Are any of them still good?


Clawmedaddy

Falling Guillotine hasn’t changed imo. Edit: In case people don’t have a Falling Guillotine, the one being sold by Banshee this week is actually pretty solid. Idk it’s drop rate but I haven’t have a single one drop all season personally.


OwerlordTheLord

Spin 2 win


PuzzledWarlock

Slash slash slash slash slash SPEEN


TheArchType

Banshee’s roll is missing jagged edge I believe but still very good overall. If you have the past seasons you can get into the season of the splicer focusing engram and select the Blades one to target farm for it.


Some-Gay-Korean

FG is still the best Legendary sword you can use on any class. Lament is still good if the activity you're playing is mostly close encounters.


Blupoisen

Of course Laments still shreds and it is the only sword that you can attack mid air


BasicallyAggressive

Haven't used Lament since it was nerfed. Also it can't cut through phalanx shields for whatever reason while lament can slice past it. Dumb


Double_Che

Yes…. Yes they are. Lament is far superior no?


Strict_Earth4659

Hey I need context


pedro_poa

Disrupting Blade makes big difference for guillotine this season


DiscoDisco_

When and how did the lament get nerfed? :/


Playgirl_USMC

I love my Falling Guillotine, it has gotten me through Space Vietnam plenty of times.


Noisygraph

I still use mine I got jagged edge relentless strikes and whirlwind blade and the other perk decreases charge time (forgot what it was called) literal god roll


dragon864789

Too bad I can save some energy on my armors for better mods to kill champion with lament , so I'm good, sticking with it


Aussiebumbum

Lamet's Health recovery on hit is low-key good.


Kashema1

Or just use Worldline Zero like an epic gamer