By - Concelhauut
It's actually tied as the new "most requested" title alongside every certified fresh A24 film with existing and readily available blu-ray releases.
it's insane the number of films people ask for in wishlist threads that are incredibly easy to find. I get that people want things on Criterion, but there are loads of classics out there with no blu ray releases at all in North America, some of which Criterion already has rights to, and people ask for mainstream films you can buy at a Walmart already.
>I get that people want things on Criterion
As a cinephile and physical media collector this is what irritates me the most... There are thousands of incredible movies that never made the jump from DVD to blu ray and who knows how many thousands of incredible movies that never made it to DVD or home release at all and yet these people drown out those requests just so they can seek the validation of having their current favorite movie legitimized by Criterion. Go pound sand A24 dorks, I need After the Rain (Ame Agaru) on blu ray!
Part of what I like about Criterion is how much is on it that I'm not aware of, I don't see the point in just getting a film that I can already find on bluray just because it's got a Criterion label.
My pet film is Dersu Uzala which I've mentioned many times on here. If you look for a Bluray, the only one I've found is Italian on Amazon - no American Bluray! And it's a famous Kurosawa film, already on the Criterion channel! It so badly deserves bluray treatment and somehow has missed out on it.
I've even seen people ask for Disney films through Criterion - absolutely no clue why.
>My pet film is Dersu Uzala
I'm right there with you. There was a Kino DVD release of it back in the day but it was always pricey and bare bones. I'm really hoping that Kurosawa gets a big blu ray box set since he is an arthouse tent pole director that way Fellini and Bergman are...
>I've even seen people ask for Disney films through Criterion - absolutely no clue why.
I think the problem is that people see Criterion like The National Film Registry where its a legitimizing or prestigious honor for a film to be included. Make no mistake, having a film released by Criterion is kind of a big deal but that's not Criterion's primary function. I think a lot of these people are just getting into film in general or are starting to collect blu rays so they have no idea what's actually out there. Its just a bit of innocent ignorance but I get pretty damn salty about this when I think about how many films seem trapped on DVD or worse. I'm just glad that we have other boutique labels doing work that equals Criterion's so hopefully we will someday get to enjoy all of those films that we feel have been left out in the cold.
>I need After the Rain (Ame Agaru) on blu ray!
Shoot, I haven't thought about this film since I was living in Japan twenty years ago. Thanks for the blast from the past.
But Criterion has the pretty box art and the special features I don’t watch
I was kind of baffled in that Lynch thread yesterday that so many people were wanting Wild at Heart. Like. It's out there. The Shout Blu Ray may not be 'Criterion level' but it's pretty good.
Exactly. I'll take The Wind (1928), or The Crowd (1928) before I'd take a release of anything that has already been released in the past 20 years.
The Mother and the Whore. PLEASE
Parasite was the most egregious case of this, imo. especially paired with the cover they gave it.
You can take it even further: No doubt there are a fair few with no *DVD* release, maybe no physical media at all.
So many films which deserve to be released in a respectable way that we don't need to be asking for famous films with constant new editions to be released with a Criterion treatment
I wanted *The Elephant Man* to get a release and it eventually did. Clearly we need only concentrate our willpower.
*thinks hard about* The Best Years of Our Lives, Out of the Past, *and* The Misfits.
Nice! Three more films with readily available blu-ray releases, one released within the past month. We can add those right to the top of the list of films deserving of a Criterion release, along with all the A24s, Netflix titles, and movies printed by "lesser" labels.
Not *ideal* all three are fairly barebones releases for movies that deserve something more substantial, but I guess the snark is fine. (Maybe I could’ve checked those titles’ status again, my mistake, no need to be a jerk about it.)
If those don’t satisfy, you can replace those with *Atanarjuat: The Fast Runner* (17-year-old DVD with a decent crop of bonus content but also need of some visual TLC), Franco Zeffirelli’s *Romeo and Juliet* (baffling that the 50-year anniversary went by with no big BR release), and *Léolo* (no BR period). Or *Werckmeister Harmonies.* Or some Jirí Trnka animation.
The Goods: Live Hard, Sell Hard instantly comes to mind.
Don't even joke about this. Even for films that I enjoy, this is a sore spot for me with Criterion. So many films without proper blu-ray releases, not just in the States, but throughout the world... So many older films that were ahead of their time and deserving of being rediscovered... I get it, though. Parasite and Anderson's films are recognizable and bring Criterion a lot of cash flow that they can then use to restore other films, but fuck.
The Breakfast Club is the biggest example of a "but why though" release for me.
Because releases like The Breakfast Club, The Great Escape, Dazed And Confused the Wes Anderson films, etc provide a major financial boost for Criterion that can reinvest it into restoring niche and obscure films that they KNOW aren't going to sell in big numbers.
Also, don't knock those releases because many of them serve as gateway titles. Criterion is full of unknowns- it's easier for some people to test the waters with a film they are already familiar with, then see the level of quality that comes with Criterion releases and that often leads to another and another, before branching out into all sorts of discoveries. Happened with me and Rushmore.
When is Criterion going to put out a Tarantino box set?!
You joke, but I've seen this asked unironically. Harrowing.
“A Complete Shrek”
As Quentin has basically provided very little insight into his films so far in his career I'm guessing he never will, so I'd rather have a 4k Quentin box than a Criterion one.
While I agree (and this whole discussion is terribly cathartic for me), let us not get too snooty and remember that *Pulp Fiction* is a Criterion from the laser disc days.
I fully agree with you on all points. I have to choose not to leave comments here when I see so many people requesting his and similar films and remind myself that not everyone understands that one of Criterion's criteria for releasing a film is if it already has a good region 1/A release (granted, there are some that seem to brush against this rule.)
Like I said, this thread has been a breath of fresh air.
Please. Tarantino is more than "deserving" of the little c in the corner. Just because something is mainstream doesnt mean it doesnt have merit. Everyone begs for Ari Aster filming naked old people and calling it horror to be included but Tarantino isn't okay because...?
>the purpose is to distribute and release underrepresented films, not the most popular commercial hits,
That's not true, Criterion does not say this anywhere. Their mission statement is "dedicated to publishing important classic and contemporary films from around the world in editions that offer the highest technical quality and award-winning, original supplements." That is a purposefully vague statement meaning that they can release anything they deem classic and important to film, regardless of how commercially popular it may or may not be. They never claim to be a film rescue society.
Read the mission statement posted on every disc
Don’t forget Netflix films
Netflix titles are a little more understandable than Wes Anderson films and Parasite, considering how awful their video quality is.
It's funny as The Mirror is also available on Bluray as I understand it.
I have it on Blu Ray. But now there's a new 4K restoration
“Take out” by Sean Baker is so goddamn hard to find I really want to watch it tho
Is it pretty much confirmed that its coming? I know The Lincoln Film center is holding a virtual festival and showing what i think a restored version of it.
Yes, it's being released this year, maybe in time for the B&N 50% off sale in July.
How do you know for sure that it's being released this year? Did Criterion mention it?
When Janus announce a theatrical run for a new restoration, it usually means the film will get a Criterion release in the following months. In fact, I can't remember the last time it wasn't the case. It's 99% certain that Mirror will be in the collection this year.
Awesome, thank you (didn't know about the theatrical run part), and I so hope you're right.
I notice on the Janus website under formats it only lists DCP. Not sure if this means anything at all, but I thought I'd point it out and see if you know if this means anything.
It just means Janus offers it on DCP for theaters interested in booking the film.
Any chance we get a Tarkovsky box set aswell?
Give me Happiness 1998
YES!!!! I bought Life During Wartime a few days ago. And i had to drop $50 on a used DVD bc Happiness is OOP now. But i own them both
I found a VHS of Happiness at a thrift store which was fun - but yeah, we need an HD version of that film.
It’s SUCH a phenomenal film, but Its gonna be a while before I can watch it again.
Could't agree more! There is not bluray for this movie
The greatest Tarkovsky film in my opinion
The greatest film of all time in my opinion.
I think objectively in terms of cinematography, writing, direction, etc. Mirror is definitely his best, but personally Stalker is my favorite. It’s also his most ambitious imo
What’s this “objectively” bullshit? How is Mirror objectively better than The Sacrifice, Nostalghia or Andrei Rublev? Or even Stalker? How is one objectively better than the other? How is it measured?
It’s like “literally”. A word to lend extra oomph to statements of idle personal preference. My mom who bought me PS5 is objectively the greatest mom ever.
I don’t mean that I think it’s set in stone that that is the best and if anyone else disagrees they’re wrong, I should’ve used a different word. What I mean is that I think if you were to take into account everything that the mirror does (the writing, framing, all that) it is the best thing Tarkovsky ever made. However if you think that any other Tarkovsky does it better, than that is totally totally valid. What I meant was that technically I think Mirror is his best, but personally Stalker is my favorite, even if I think it is worse purely on technical standards.
i recently saw The Sacrifice for the first time abd i was surprised at relatively how little attention it gets. It was wall to wall beautiful
The Sacrifice is imo Tarkovsky's best film and also one of the best films I've ever seen.
Sacrifice is my second favorite, it was what made me love Tarkovsky. I genuinely don't know why it doesn't get the love it deserves, I can understand why people don't like Nostalghia (still love it), but Sacrifice is a must-watch.
Andrei Rublev is pretty damn ambitious too. I suppose each are in their own different way. Both masterpieces regardless.
What really gets me about Mirror, is that people are constantly flabbergasted by what it could mean and the significance of the seemingly random footage of historical events and such, when I think really it is all quite simple.
It came to me when I was watching The Mirror on LSD without subtitles, and it hit me that this film is exactly what the title says it is, a mirror. The film is a treatise on art’s role as a mirror, and how art reflects the soul of the creator and we then in turn can see ourselves reflected in it, and that we hopefully could come the realization that we have our own individual stories as people, but they are also the collective stories of humanity, and how we can examine humanity through art. That is not an idea original to Tarkovsky, but i’ll be damned if The Mirror isn’t the most beautiful and thoughtful execution of that idea I have ever personally experienced in a film. It truly is a film for everyone if they would open their hearts to it, I think everyone can see a piece of themselves in it.
After the Memories of Murder announcement this is definitely at the top of my list!
mine is a bluray version of "The face of another"
Pitfall as wel please!!
Would be amazing. Pretty much impossible to find here in the UK so a Criterion release would be perfect
Mean Streets please
Flair checks out!
(*The King of Comedy* though...)
Too much to ask for both?
Nah, you’re right, let’s go big
Mean Streets already has a standard blu-ray release. Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and Who's That Knocking at My Door however, are still to be released in glorious 1080p
After Hours though.
Still waiting for The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover -- especially after it played on The Criterion Channel a while back.
That’s when I saw it for the first time! Wow, my first Greenaway. Just imagine the packaging...
I saw it in the theater when it came out. Oh man, those colors on the big screen and that soundtrack. Such a great experience!
I actually just watched this last week. It was good, but I have questions.
You don't say..
Yes I know it should say 1975. I didn't make it 🤭
I’d kill for Mahjong and A Confucian Confusion.
Honestly any Edward Yang films that aren’t already in the collection.
Better yet give me a New Taiwanese boxset!
Completely agree. Started watching Yang's films when I blind bought Yi Yi and A Brighter Summer Day last year, and it's really hard to find his other films. Terrorizers, A Confucian Confusion, Mahjong and That Day on the Beach all need blu-ray releases ASAP. An Edward Yang box set would be incredible.
Terrorizers is on Amazon Prime and it is fantastic!
Live in Norway so can't access it even with VPN. Did manage to find a copy elsewhere though and I agree it's really good. A physical release would be really nice though.
I'm still desperately in need of *Last Life in the Universe*, but *Mirror* is definitely high up on my list as well.
Weirdest thing—I just saw your comment under the fake cover someone made for *Ritual Day* because of the Japanese arthouse rabbit hole your earlier comment sent me down on Google.
My dream release is Love & Pop or Ritual from Hideaki Anno. Absolute masterpieces that are impossible to get in the States.
Could we also get Eyes Wide Shut.... please
That’s my dream criterion release. The current Blu-ray is garbage. Top five movies of all time for me.
It is my favorite of all time.
It’s so damn good, every single time I rewatch I get more and more out of it.
I love this movie...has a special place in my heart
My favorite Tarkovsky and that cover looks fucking sick. I once even contemplated getting a detailed tattoo of that shot put on me once.
I honestly believe it's the best film I've ever seen. Nothing compares. Watching it feels like finally understanding everything, at least for 100 minutes or so.
I really want Paper Moon in the collection.
You dont have enough upvotes
I’d love for The Sacrifice to get a Blu Ray release also! There’s a lot of interesting behind the scenes to make in depth supplemental material imo
Kino Lorber already released a great restoration which comes with a documentary.
and Funky Forest, please
I’d love Once Upon a Time in America to get a new release.
Didn't get a chance to buy the extended edition blu-ray before it went OOP. Would love to see that cut. Preferably, I would love to see Leone's original six hour cut, but unfortunately it appears it's lost forever.
Leone’s six hour cut would be a dream to see. I’m still hoping that it’s sitting around somewhere, just waiting to be found. Probably gone forever but a guy can dream.
For me, it’s Heisei Era Godzilla, and hopefully we don’t have to wait for spine number 2000.
I hope we get Heisei and Millennium era box sets before 2000!
Millennium Mambo pls :))
now it's not a question of if, but when?
Unrelated to the topic but what is the inspiration behind your username?
CATS needs a release yesterday.
I would like a Blu Ray of Les Bonnes Femmes. And Blu Ray upgrades for Il Posto and I Fidanzati. A Blu Ray of The Mirror would also be fantastic. And some Bunuel films from the middle of his career would be great too.
Los Olvidados would be great.
Mirror is 75 not 74
Mosfilm cinema concern says 1974
Eternity and a day
I need an inland empire release
All I want is Tony Takitani, The Adventures of Goopy and Bagha, and The Crazy Family to be released on Bluray
I have to say my vote goes for films stuck in dvd hell or ones with no features and lacking a generally available american blu ray.
Julius Caesar (Marlon Brando)
What about Bob?
The cobbler and the thief
The wind in the willows 1995 tv movie
Arsenic and old lace
An actually comprehensive collection of tarantino or kubrick films made for the states and with real menus at least for heavens sakes.
And of course a kurosawa life works blu ray box set. I would also love to see a director approved edition of anything Yorgos Lanthimos even though there are fine blu ray copies already. One can wish right?
Most of these probably "dOnt DEsErvE thE c" but this is an opinion post and discussion, so downvoting seems banal and counterproductive when listing what someone wants to see added. Hell, a spongebob set that went over the actual screenwriting or challenges of voice acting versus live action or anything else criterion could add would be an amazing addition and everyone would still get it after the gatekeepers here said how it didnt belong because they dont understand the mission statement posted on every case.
The definition of 'contemporary' seems to elude most of the gatekeepers here. As do the definitions of 'want' and 'opinion'.
Would love to see a release of Tarsem Singh's The Fall and Mel Gibson's Apocalypto.
What is the version of the mirror on criterion channel and how would this be different?
There's a new 4k restoration
Anybody think there’s a chance of Okja releasing?
I do, actually.
If some of the 2020 Netflix movies get released, I see no reason why Okja shouldn't
No reason we can’t get a Tarkovsky box set
I would say this and A Clockwork Orange
That's getting a 4k release this year...
Children of Men
How is Ivan's Childhood a Criterion film and not this? Ivan's Childhood is good but it doesn't even feel like a Tarkovsky film