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LupusDeiEl

So we give Russia and Ukraine back to the mongolians?


[deleted]

Maybe 'we' should just keep out of it.


thatonealien

You mean like we are already doing?


Commercial-Set3527

>Ukraine was a founding member of the Soviet Union Weird way of saying first country to fall to Russia to start the Soviet Union. It wasn't voluntary and millions died under Stalin's rule.


twitchspank

Ukraine was recognised as an independent country by Russia in 1991. Skip that from history?


[deleted]

Ukraine ceased to be a sovereign country in 2014 when a CIA-backed coup was implemented. It is now a puppet regime of the US Deep State, being used as a forward base for destabilization operations against Russia.


twitchspank

It was not a CIA backed coup. It was a revolution by people - thousands of people were at protest camps during Euromaidan. It ended with Yanukovich the then president fleeing the country after ordering his secret police to shoot and kill 50 protestors. The people of Ukraine wanted the freedom to choose who they want in government and they chose through democracy. They were protesting severe crackdown on Ukranian freedoms. But if you think you have evidence it was a CIA backed coup please show me. The CIA has been involved but this was after Russia annexed Crimea. Then the Ukranians began working with the CIA. If you want I can even link videos of testimony of Ukranian people who were there. I guarantee you are wrong.


mohawok

I guarantee you are wrong)


twitchspank

Cool present evidence or ask me for my proof if you like. I can show you testimonial from Ukranians at Euro Maidan if you have an open mind to listen to the people who were there


mohawok

I have seen dozens of testimonials from there, thats why i guarantee you. I have been checking on what was happening there on a daily basis, and remember good Nooland ,Mckain and other american authorities coming to maidan, when there is a legitimate goverment it is absolute nonsense . I remember usa embassy telling the goverment not to use power for protesters. Never seen them do this shit in european nato countriea when people getting battered. Anyway, just check all the money coming to ukrainian NPO , prior to Maidan. Well us played its game well, it knows great how to overthrow goverments all over the globe


twitchspank

None of what you said is the CIA orchestrating a coup. Nuland was a diplomat who helped supply a loan to the protest at worse. This is not evidence of a CIA coup. There was not a legitimate government. Yanukovich lost support when he did a sudden departure from the promised Association Agreement with the European Union in November 2013. Then protests formed leading to Euromaidan. If you believe that the protests were not legitimate to bring about a change in government then you believe America should still be under British control. The US embassy may have warned the Ukranian president against using violence on the protestors. This is not CIA. That is America saying protests are allowed without the threat of violence which Yankovich was doing. Money moving to Ukraine is also not evidence of CIA involvement but show me what you mean. America invests in supporting democracies around the world but you would rather have Russian imperialism. SO show me evidence. Show me these testimonials saying it was a CIA coup from Ukranians. Because I think your source is you made it the fuck up. You have nothing for proof.


mohawok

It is obvious everything us foreign affairs do is cia. Forever was forever will be, Yanukovich may have lost support but he was the legitimate president. Just listen to the audio call between Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and Catherine Ashton who discuss snipers over the phone. Joe Biden as vice president calling Yanukovich to pull out Berkut from street, pull out police from street damn, such impudence US is known for. Anyway US is a Great country , great people , but absolutely satanic goverment.


twitchspank

>It is obvious everything us foreign affairs do is cia. No it is not. All foreign relations are not CIA. Diplomacy is not CIA. There was no coup brought about. It was protests which lead to the president fleeing because he ordered the shooting of 50 Ukranians and refused to take responsibility. This left a power vacuum leading to subsequent elections. >Joe Biden as vice president calling Yanukovich to pull out Berkut from street, pull out police from street damn Yes this was after Yanukovich was sending in police to do violence on the protestors in their camps. You support the 50 protestors being killed? And I am sure Politicians would have been critical of other historic heavy handed government techniques like Tianemmen square. They should be. > Anyway US is a Great country , great people , but absolutely satanic goverment. So you recognise US after its revolution from the British but not Ukranians in their revolution from Russian controlled Yanukovich? You still providing no evidence for anything you said.


mohawok

Man thats a conversation without ending i guess. I pointed you the evidence, just please find that call which is confirmed to be real. US have no diplomacy, only power and covert ops by CIA , the whole world knows that, need i remind you how nooland was choosing who to put in which seats in ua goverment , making a remark “fuck the eu”)) Famous american diplomacy) Maybe you in states think the other way , its your business. I dont care. We all know who you are -the masters of protests and chaos in other countries, not my words also, check mr. Bolton. And just explain from your side what was Yanukovich angle to kill people. Absolutely zero angle. Whos motive could that be to wind up the situation? Create casus belli. Think about it , then listen Catherine Ashtons call. So if some people stand in the capital of the country and have some demands and protest about something it is called revolution ? They represent the whole country ? Dont think so. But based on your logic trump fans storming capitol had to be supported! Free will of people. Or people in moldova now, or in france or everywhere else. Revolution everywhere😂


chingwa76

That map is mesmerizing.


Ok_Magician_1194

SS: CIA/Soros/Nazis overthrew Ukraine in 2014 and began bombing Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine Donbas region non-stop. It's been 8 years of bombing/genocide by CIA-controlled Kiev. 14k+ deaths of innocent Ukrainian civilians. the Rothschilds wanted a one world central bank where they could control global currency and the Tsars of Russia weren't playing ball. Rockefeller was created by Rothschild and of course wanted the Russian oil. We see the same storyline playing out today where Putin doesn't want to join the World Economic Forum one world Rothschild order with one world currency. Modern Ukraine is the by-product of a manufactured Russian civil war orchestrated by the elites > The funding of the Russian Revolution (Bolshevik Revolution) by US bankers had nothing to do with their desire to spread communism or with sympathising with the communist cause. They funded the Bolsheviks for three main reasons: The Russian Oil fields, the establishment of a Central Bank, and getting rid of the last Tsar: > Both America’s Standard Oil, which belonged to the Rockefeller family, and the Royal Dutch Shell, of which the Rothschild family were the major stock holders, had interests in the rich Russian oil fields. But these oil fields belonged to the Tsar Nicholas II. >The last three Tsars of Russia (Alexander II, Alexander III and Nicholas II) had always opposed the creation of a Central Bank in Russia own by the international bankers. >The Tsar Nicholas II was not only in the way of the international bankers in regards to the Russian oil fields and the Central Bank, but was also well aware of the banker’s plot to take over the world. The Bolsheviks did not only kill Tsar Nicholas II, they also killed all the members of the Russian Royal family; including women and children. http://communism-explained.blogspot.com/2010/05/why-did-us-bankers-fund-russian.html?m=1


New_Needleworker_851

^ this exactly!