Weekly Observations: What signs of collapse do you see in your region? [in-depth]
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Location: US, Midwest
Went on a hike last weekend with my wife. We weren't deep into the woods. But, we were far enough away from the car, down some tough trail, to not see other people.
The only mammals we saw were birds. Two days in the forest and not on raccoon, squirrel, or deer.
Birds ain’t mammals. I think you meant to say animals though.
If you're going to make a correction, don't half ass it. I meant homeotherms.
Change is opportunity, regardless of if that change is bull or bear. Sure, most are going to lose their savings, having absolutely no idea what to do in a bear market. Surviving, even profiting, isn't luck. It doesn't take much skill to beat status quo apathy.
Location: nirth-eastern germany
The lawns from my last post niw look like desert scraps, it's fucking depressing to see dryed out arid scrubbs in northern germany spring area. Ok, they are 100% in the sun everyday, so is the wild rye, wheat and oat growing around( others see weed, i see food) which is, where tge sun always shines, already riping, RIPING!!!
Shockingly stark differences on flushing green place with sufficient tree shadow, there it looks normal fresh dark gras green
My best friend jzst called crying to come around..... Maybe later something.
Location: The Television
I watched Jeremy Clarkson's new show about farming. Overall, I found myself annoyed at his stupid jokes, but you could tell that it was mostly done for entertainment value. It was interesting to see a man who made his living preaching about how dumb environmentalism is change his tone about the whole thing. He never comes out and openly admits that we're collapsing, but there are a lot of hints dropped throughout the show.
I appreciate that it appears he made some attempts at rewilding, but I kind of wish he could have talked more about no-till farming, the benefits of hoofed animals, and why tilling is bad. He does *very* briefly mention the issue with tilling early on, but he avoids going into detail presumably because he doesn't want to be labelled as an environmentalist by his fan base.
Anyway, if you have 8h to kill check it out. I think overall it's a good thing, and maybe it will help communicate to his fan base that speeding around in cars might not be the best way to amuse yourself.
Who? Where can it be seen?
Great show but Clarkson changed his tone during the Seaman special seeing the dry riverbed and all the people affected.
Location: Southern Romania's hills.
We had a very cold and rainy spring, light snowfall was recorded as late as early april in the surroundings though it didn't settle on the ground, now it's june and we didn't have one day with temperatures over 30C, as it would have usually happened by this time of the year. Instead, weather is cold and rainy, bearing semblance to what you'd expect to see in early october during a warm year.
Walking around my village a few weeks ago i was surprised to discover a new kind of fern growing around, which i've never seen before here. I identified it as Dryopteris filix-mas, a species commonly found in low montane to subalpine areas here. Larch trees have grown different this year, instead of the upright growth typical to the ones in my area, the new branches seem to be heavier and more drooping, a growth habit more common among wild larches growing in the mountains.
Winter was very very mild and rainy, and having rainy winters is unusual here because most precipitation usually falls as snow, and because winters are usually the driest part of the year, but last winter you'd see rain, sleet and snow falling all during one day, and you'd have unceasing rain and constant cloudiness for weeks at a time.
January was the coldest month, we did have a few polar air spells then and times when winter actually did feel like winter, but everything else from november to march felt mostly the same in terms of weather.
This is not what people normally imagine when you mention climate change, but it's a change from the usual climatic conditions of the area, it feels a lot more oceanic than what it should be like. Small creeks and streams in my area are overflowing and flooding low lying areas of the valleys. I can also see lichens visibly spreading in my alpine garden, talking of which i never had to water this year, not even once.
As a forestry worker your observations are very useful. I’d check the online herbariums about the D. felix-mas. It’s likely that this fern was growing there in very specific niche habitats and now with the changing climate they are spreading to areas they haven’t been before. I noticed something similar back home in Tennessee. The climate is growing warmer and even more rainy it seems though I admit I haven’t looked at the actual statistics just personal observation. I’ve also noticed more southerly US plants (most notable Pinus taeda and Liquidambar Styraciflua, Quercus phellos) expanding their range into my area. Even more unusual is Quercus Nigra (Water Oak) which ranges well over a 100 miles to my south. I have only located one population of saplings but they obviously weren’t planted. I contacted the national park I found these in and they confirmed it with my pics. This species has never been seen in the park and isnt suppose to be growing in my state at all except for the far far southern parts of it. Most of these species were very scattered in my area but I’ve seen seedlings in areas I’ve never seen them before, and I’ve watched them mostly flourish. For Pinus taeda (Loblolly pine) it seems to be escaping from planted trees but before the seedlings that did escape were easily killed by late frosts. Now most of them are surviving and growing rapidly. (These trees once established are pretty hardy but seedling die off is why they weren’t really native to my area before). I’ll also preface this probably boring rant with I do legitimately believe forest communities will adapt to the changes, but human society will suffer immense losses before we turn it around somehow. I am not as doomer as a lot of people in this sub.
Seeing more articles like this: [Nearly 8,000 people applied to Colorado program that gives 'incentive' payments for returning to work: The state is offering up to $1,600 for returning to work full time.](https://abcnews.go.com/Business/8000-people-applied-colorado-program-incentive-payments-returning/story?id=78148349)
This speaks to a number of things, one being that pay is so low unemployment pays as much or almost as much as their actual job. But presumably unemployment runs out at some point, and building up a resume gap is risky.
The fact that a one-time payment of $1600 is enough to get some people to go to work instead of sitting at home is impressive to me. And we wonder why entering a lottery in some states (which they will very likely win $0 from) to get a vaccine when they have anti-vaxx beliefs actually works on some people (maybe it is just people who want the vaccine, but for whom it's a hassle to get transportation and/or babysitters, I don't know).
I went through years of unemployment before, never again until I retire for good do I want to deal with a resume gap. Granted, this happened before I had any real career experience, so a 1-year gap would probably be easier for me to handle now, but the experience was bad enough I wouldn't want to risk it.
There are a lot of comments in the article debating the merits of socialism, but either way, seems important to discuss why people need a relatively small one-time bonus to even go back to work.
Our immigration policy is absurdly one sided. We only apply selection on immigrants. What is needed is the program tha strips Americans from their citizenships and expels them to foreign countries for laziness.
It’s not like foreign countries will accept them they’d just get deported back here
No In fact I’d go further, any illegal who is in the borders rn gets automatic citizenship. If they’re here, make them a citizen.
Also, enact a jobs guaruntee for anyone who wants to have a decent paying job. People are only “lazy” because they don’t want to work long hours for slave wages
I agree only on one point - illegal immigrants are also positively selected and contribute positively to our society
Unfortunately, they create a turf for powerful and widespread gangs by their illegality, so here your suggestion seems logical - by removing that illegality we strip M16 of their power over these poor chaps.
Alas, the other good side of illegals is that they are ready to work for pennies.
I would like to counter your proposition by a counterproposal - liquidate all unions, make them illegal, Chile-1973 style, eliminate minimum wage and finally get rid of all state programs to help unemployed.
Maybe then I will see the first African American or European gardener on my street.
Unions are the only reason workers have fair wages
Unions are the reason why workers have unfair wages
You are fake news
Oh so you’re just a fascist got it. Wanting to make Go back to Pinochet fascist dictator era of unregulated capitalism, Chile 1970’s
Expand union rights, give workers full control of the means of production, and abolish the state entirely. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DHi-xwngUVJ05TjWrVV0FShGrLunxqCxaPBwKGq-mz0/edit
I like you.
I do think regulations are needed. Just not of the kind that are centered on populist demand.
The people should get the regulation they all collectively think is necessary as a community/society. So the populous should decide. Therefore... it’s by populist demand. If you’re against what the people want, you’re an authoritarian dictator going against the will of the people
No. Populism should shut up because most people have no idea what will be the effect of this or that action on society
Thats literally the logic of dictators and fascists. And elitism.
People know what would help them the most generally. You are out of touch.
So you don’t believe in democracy? Atleast you come out and say it.
There's literally no point in getting a job anymore. The wages you receive aren't even enough to cover expenses, there's zero upward mobility, and all the value generated by your labour goes to some clowns at the top who have too many yachts and fancy cars.
Why bother? Just quit capitalism and start growing your own food imo.
This is so true. I work so much and I am always broke the day after payday. Seems like people are sick of it. Why work and be abused when you can collect unemployment and do what you want all day. I live in Colorado too, and the majority of employers do not pay a living wage. I saw an article recently about how $45,000 is the new scrap by wage in Denver , and you would still need a roommate . I process public benefit applications and they don’t pay me $45,000 🤣. My county has been having a hard time even hiring anyone. People take the job and show up for the 4 month training period and realize the job requires too much work for the pay and then they just quit without even making it out of training. A lot of seasoned staff have also walked off the job, because of the intense unrealistic pressure to process a large amount of complex cases in a very short time. They keep harassing people like we are so easily replaced.
The training takes four months and this is just basic training , if you fail the test for each program, you get one more chance, and then you are let go. On average half of the training classes fail the tests multiple times and are let go. Let’s say you pass the test , while you are on sign off for six months to a year( you cannot authorize your own cases and every action is reviewed by sup for accuracy). You can be fired on sign off if your cases have too many errors or you do not process enough. All in all , a twenty person training class , usually produces two semi long term workers.
Just run for congress on a policy of guns and you can make $174k to complain about your twitter follower count all day.
Financial Independence Retire Early?
That might be enough to get them a junker car. Might be enough to cover childcare while they wait for paychecks to catch up.
I think the two biiggest barriers to going to work (other tham shit pay not covering food and rent) are transportation and childcare.
Again- in the US.
I think people shouldn’t have children if they don’t have long term plans to support them
Yup. Wonderful idea. Once women have laws that protect them and police and judicial systems that enforce those protections, rights to their bodies, rights to medical care, economic parity with men so they are not dependent upon them... I can go on.
Then yes, they should not have children without plans to support them. Right now, reality on the ground looks a lot different.
So what are you saying the alternative is now? They should just have children anyways even though they understand the system is against them??
No. I am saying that just saying 'women should not have children' ignores the reality of what women deal with.
If you want them to not have children then you need to fix those other things.
Actually, maybe we should just fix those other things and stop telling women what they should do. But hey, that sounds a bit too radical to me. We wouldn't want to give up control over others.
It would be great if we could all do whatever we wanted and have the resources for it, but that’s not the reality and never will be
Location; Melbourne Australia.
Aggressive storms knocked out half a million people’s power on Thursday within the eastern suburbs. Hundreds of thousands still without power on Sunday. What little Reports we get suggest it will take weeks to repair.
Very little mention of it in the media. No actions by the Crime Minister to send aid. Communities relying entirely on their own.. I’ve been amazed at how charitable locals are and how apathetic the government seems to be.
I work at a school and we opened the doors to the locals to allow them to use the water and power (school was spared somehow)
Collapse is a process.
Within Melbourne, Victoria now we have been in a state of emergency for years. Fires, COVID lockdowns, floods, more COVID lockdowns, more floods/storms. Extreme weather is becoming more normal. Crisis is becoming routine.
I’ve personally been without power for close to 3 weeks this year. Can see that extending as time goes on until utilities are no longer seen as reliable
I've noticed the trend in not reporting uncomfortable news. The MSM prefers to stick to stuff it can easily blame on a boogeyman: Russia, China, "hackers", whatever. Talking about problems that affect everyone regardless of their identity? Well, there's no good boogeyman for those problems, and it would make the viewers squeamish to have their brains try to comprehend that maybe everything isn't o.k.
Qld here - hadn't heard about the power outages down there at all, just some vague stuff about "wild weather". Hope the power issue gets resolved for you guys soon. Keep your head up, we're thinking of you lot down there.
There have been multiple fires in homeless encampments per day for several days. I’m talking about these camps literally burning to the ground. Propane tanks have ignited and people have lost their lives in these fires. We finally got some rain but that means its only going to be colder out and more folks on the streets are gonna set up fires to stay warm. A lot of my neighbors are afraid that those fires my spread to homes and business if not contained
Saw some guy driving around with a poster saying CHINA HUNTER BIDEN'S LAPTOP covering his entire rear windshield. Other than whatever shit right channel he tunes into his whole life and the lack of a verb, that looked like a major driving hazard. No way he could see out the back.
Also a shooting came here, not very far away from where I work.
How is this act of a single man or even a group is a sign of collapse?
Delusional cult members are a sign of collapse. If there are no societal agreeable facts (fraud has to be proven- no bamboozles) then society will collapse
This person sounds like they have towing mirrors on their truck anyway
Location: Austin, TX
I've been inside for months and was looking for something to do with my partner to get out of the apartment. Was just kinda perusing Google and saw that a mass shooting occurred this morning on 6th Street, which is the typical hub for bars and restaurants that you see in any college town. 13 people reported injured at this time and suspect hasn't been found. Gun violence has [exploded in 2021](https://www.insider.com/mass-shootings-increased-in-2021-gun-violence-experts-cite-contagion-effect2021-4) due to a variety of social, political, and economic factors I'm sure this community is familiar with.
I think I have developed an aversion to going outside this past year, particularly in urban settings. Between the undeniable uptick in violence, widespread unhoused encampments, COVID, and the generalized feeling of dread that seems to be growing in the general population, I feel very uneasy. While the COVID pandemic fueled a lot of my anxiety last year, and still does on a more global scale, the domestic socioeconomic issues are what weigh my mind down most.
Living in a major American city nowadays feels like you're in a cyberpunk dystopia without all the technological bread and circuses to distract from the real, tangible issues.
St. Louis has seen an uptick in murders, carjackings, etc. We had a [standoff on the MLK Bridge](https://www.officer.com/tactical/swat/news/21220216/suspect-arrested-after-standoff-on-mlk-bridge) not long ago. Lots of drive-bys on the East Side this year as well
I’m with ya. I used to do stand up comedy as a hobby in NYC. Now I don’t want to be anywhere near the public. I’ve seen too much lol
Are your jokes that bad they shoot you?
Yeah it’s kill or be killed out there
Dammit I just found out about this from your comment (also in ATX). Sigh.
This is not in a confrontational fashion but why not move? If it wasn't for the fact I can't afford a car right not I would retreat to a rural/suburbs place
We're in the process of it actually, we're just trying to find jobs and housing at the moment
Gardening! Grow some potatoes in buckets.
Worst drought on record. Everywhere I look, people are still watering their grass on their huge, useless lawns. The governor’s solution is a weekend of prayer.
Yep, that will definitely work. If for some weird reason it doesn't, maybe the old Indian rain dance will work.
I really do not think Utah was really suited for habitation to begin with. I lived there briefly last year and noticed a lot of little things.
Air quality is bad especially those with certain health issues. It's pretty much one giant desert. It seems like any of the trees and grass there had to be cultivated. Some of those lakes seem man made. The land really isn't useful for growing anything.
But it's pretty in its own unique way and does make for a good star gazing trip in the right spot.
Imagine being so directly adjacent to being observant
>But it's pretty in its own unique way and does make for a good star gazing trip in the right spot.
This will always be the concrete reason for why people go to certain places. Its always the view that gets people going.
Home improvements...paintings...green scenery....and the lack of undesirable things such as trash, homeless camps in someone's backyard, door-to-door salesmen, and idle yikyaks who love to talk for no reason. Its all of this that makes people wanting to leave their areas in the first place.
When there's pros and the cons that'll get worse later on, people are always gonna overlook the cons.
When they have no water, it's going to be hard to overlook.
Yea I have been hearing about the drought over there often these past few weeks. Unfortunately it will affect us too because food grown there comes here.
Cascading problems. That's what collapse is - a series of compounding problems that eventually reach another tipping point. Eventually they will come so fast we won't be able to note them all.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the fall. Especially with student loans coming due, no unemployment and possibly fewer small businesses being open.
So many problems, so little time.
I definitely agree. I've lived coast to coast and in several regions of the US. I was glad I was able to. But it seems like no matter where one goes now it can become a cesspool especially where there are cities concerned. I definitely do not think the past year has helped with that.
I think that for me the PNW had the prettiest views especially in the summer time. In my old commute got to see the Cascades twice that day for 4 days a week.
Why not a rain dance instead?
Because Mormons. They like to pray
I could go camping there. That's the surest way to make it rain anywhere.
I don't get it. I feel like half the people put on their IG or twitter bio "Jesus lover" or something similar. That's all some people ever think about.
The state legislature just passed a bill affirming a federal judgment protecting homeless camping on public land when there are no other alternatives for shelter. To wit, cities now have to formulate “objectively reasonable” ordinances to allow homeless camping in certain circumstances unless the city has sufficient emergency shelter for the city’s homeless population. It seems like they’re trying to force the hands of the cities to address the homeless crisis here. But…
There don’t seem to be any plans on the table to change zoning regulations to allow more shelters and transitional housing, so I have no idea how anyone is expecting this to help. Oregon has tight zoning regulations, and last I checked, there were state-level limits on the number of shelters a city can have, in addition to whatever zoning regs cities have on their own against emergency shelters. There’s also the NIMBY contingent of wealthy homeowners who will do all they can to crush any attempts to give shelter to homeless people.
It makes me worry about the safety of this already extremely vulnerable population. The discussion in my town has a lot of people threatening to take things into their own hands to run out the homeless people, and some of them might actually be crazy enough to hurt someone.
Everyone wants a simple solution, but there’s not a simple solution.
Gives me a visual of these homeless camps like refugee centers. In the US. Insane.
They really are in many cases refugee camps. In Portland, there's a newspaper that homeless folks can make a bit of money by selling in downtown areas, and one of the articles last year addressed refugees from Paradise, CA. There's apparently a couple hundred folks that were made homeless when the whole town burned down that ended up in Portland. For various reasons, the fire made it impossible for them to continue living a normal life, and if you have no support structure in that kind of catastrophe, you get swept under the bridges and onto the sidewalks. They are literal refugees, you can look at Paradise on Google maps and it's mostly a giant black char. They have nothing to go home to. The only difference between them and, say Syrian refugees in Jordan, is the Paradise refugees aren't in a UN camp, they're just stuck living in a half ripped camping tent.
I have a feeling this will be the new normal for the US moving forward. Insane.
My late grandma warned me that if we voted for that muslim Obama this would happen lmao /s
Lol yeah, damn Obama starting forest fires again!
You have Seattle which has similar problems. I have heard several accounts of people dying in the encampments or being assaulted especially when the whole Chaz/Chop thing was going on.
> The discussion in my town has a lot of people threatening to take things into their own hands to run out the homeless people, and some of them might actually be crazy enough to hurt someone.
This is extremely disturbing news. The patchwork quilt of laws and regulations aren't working anywhere, it seems local governments lack the will and perhaps the funds to respond in any meaningful way. Instead, it seems in some areas they are using the police and laws to break up camps.
You are right, there are no simple solutions and it appears no one cares to even quantify the source of the problems let alone make an effort towards treating people humanely or with any dignity.
> Instead, it seems in some areas they are using the police and laws to break up camps.
[Like in Venice Beach](https://www.latimes.com/homeless-housing/story/2021-06-10/venice-beach-homeless-encampment-cleanup-plan). Different state, but same idea.
My mother died of dementia in her mid 60s(started showing obvious signs in her late 50s) and I wonder if it's becoming more common now due to the poor health of people, poor coping strategies for mental health problems, and demographics. Believe long term use of benzos and living off a diet of cakes, cookies, and wine contributed. She was always trim and looked healthy at first glance but a bad diet, drug use, and poor mental health can really take a toll. Please everyone take care of your health best you can. As collapse gets worse there's going to be less help and resources available.
Having children is less common now too. My mother had several and we were able to work together to care for her at home until the last 6 months. Myself and siblings have no children, most of my co-workers have 0 or 1. There's going to be a lot less family help in the future to assist with ageing parents meaning more people will have to go to care homes sooner. It's scary. The "i've fallen and can't get up" dying alone on the floor is a fate awaiting many of us.
How do you know what suffering others are going through? Your job makes you privileged yet you are calling random people on a forum privileged, please. You don't know what other people are going through or have been through. Just because you work in a long term care facility doesn't give you power to deem others privileged, you don't have a clue.
There's homeless and starving people on the streets, and you have a fucking job and are calling other people privileged. Take your own advice and worry about yourself and your own gifts.
And it's a blessing to be where you are, so you shouldn't call random people online privileged when you have no idea.
You need to turn down the victimization like 8 notches
OP isn’t comparing themselves to you or any other users here, they’re comparing their dementia patients, or rather, their inability to realize their surroundings, to people in general.
OP says the ability to comprehend our surroundings is a privilege, not a job.
A privileged person calling other people online privileged, that's all this is.
Dementia can be terrifying. Many with it live the same terrors on repeat everyday until they can no longer eat, drink, or wipe their own butts then they slowly die.
In the early stages it's kinda cute when they're convinced the mafia is after them or if there's a school shooting on the TV they think it happened in their town or they ask the silly things like *when can I go home* even when they are home or if they ask you who the picture of the woman on the wall is you have to say it's their daughter and they give you a befuddled look which is better than the usual blank vacant stare. Getting gunned down in an alleyway for spare change is a better way to go than dementia
May there be a COVID connection involved with the change in population showing up there? Like were there as many younger people there in 2019 as there is now? I have heard of COVID causing 'brain fog' that lasts beyond initial recovery. We know not everyone was able to get tested last year before vaccines were out.
I genuinely wish I was un-woke tbh. I recently visited my demented grandma and she just seem so... blissful
I wonder if pollution and diet are effecting people’s memories and increasing the dementia rates for younger and younger people.
my mother had early onset dementia. I'd say things which contributed to it: preexisting mental illness(Anxiety and BPD diagnosed) long term use of Xanax, long term use of alcohol tho I never saw her drunk just a daily drinker, eating sugary foods everyday like cakes, cookies, wines, crackers. She always kept a normal weight so didn't eat too much but it was low quality food. She also took a lot of questionable supplements thinking they were keep her healthy in lieu of actual healthy food and exercise. Being socially isolated and spending most of her time watching TV likely also contributed. Plus a genetic pre-disposition.
Metal is toxic
It's like summer already, the sun scorched some seedlings in the garden yesterday, that doesn't usually happen.
With consumers energy raising rates between the hours of 2pm to 7pm, many are using less energy to avoid the increase in the bill. Will be difficult for some if the heat keeps up.
Store shelves are randomly stocked. Certain clothing items can't be found. Have to shop online for some items.
Lots of people complaining about the price of food, gas and wood.
Housing market hot and cold, lots of listed houses for sale not selling. Just the best ones are right now. I think the ones not selling are simply overpriced. For example, 2 houses that arent much bigger than a typical garage are asking 80,000 for one and 117,000 for another. Theyve been sitting 2 months now.
Yes, this. Also live in Michigan and my lawn started turning yellow in May and my plants are suffering from early temperature spikes. I’ve never seen this so early in the season. I live near a big waterway as well and this was the first spring in recent memory that it did not flood. And, still working remotely, but using as little energy as possible from 2-7 on weekdays to conserve and pay less to CE - was very difficult last week with temperatures above 90 and high humidity!
Location: Northeast US
I routinely have to take drives from the Washington DC area to northern Pennsylvania. It's not a super long drive, but its still a few hours on the road. Two things that struck me as odd were the amount of roadkill and the dead but standing trees.
It seemed like every 10 miles or so there's be a dead deer, or what remained of a dead deer. Growing up in that area, seeing animals after being hit by vehicles were common, but just the amount of deer (and only deer) were worrying. Driving for a few minutes and counting three bloated bambis were common. No possums, no squirrels, no woodchucks, just deer.
The other thing was standing dead trees. Just mixed in with the healthy trees were leafless, dead trees. I don't know whether beetles or pollution or heat got to them, but they weren't burnt or scorched, just dead. Going on road view on google maps for I81 in PA and looking off to the sides shows lifeless husks of trees.
Collapse related? No idea, but it certainly doesn't feel right.
I recently drive from WI to Indiana and back. The amount of roadkill is STAGGERING, it was like 1-2 dead animals per minute. I didn't just see deer, I saw a couple foxes (which I've never seen alive in nature) and some large birds, and so many raccoons, opossums, and small birds. It really gets heartbreaking, and I don't think it's normal.
Location: Houston-ish, Texas
So several interesting points I wanted to note this week.
Weather: The Texas heat has arrived. We're looking at a full week of 90F/32C degree weather with sun. This is pretty expected for mid-June, but as a city boy working out in the country, it's kind of amazing just how much a person sweats in a humid subtropical climate. By the time I came in for lunch it was like I had jumped in a pool. I had to strip off everything except my underwear so I could get into the house without dripping everywhere. I have to use two pairs of socks a day so that I can avoid getting blisters because of sweaty feet.
We spent most of the day today repairing a fence that had tipped over due to the massive amount of rain we've had the past few weeks. One of the guys out here said that his water tank had collected 15 inches of rain in the past two weeks. For reference, the Houston area usually area usually gets about 50 inches of rain a year, and June is usually the wettest month with just under 6 inches of total rainfall. Even for a region that is used to Hurricanes and wet seasons, 15 inches is unheard of in that time frame.
Culture: I got my first advertisement for Fox News here. I've lived in Texas for 20+ years and never seen a targeted ad for Fox News. Obviously, I clicked on it so that it would cost Fox a few cents. Fuck Fox. All my homies hate right wing propaganda that purposely misleads vast portions of my country with regards to the severity of the Ecocide.
One of the workers also a realboi redneck. I saw his truck today and noticed the bumper stickers for the first time. He's got a Trump 2020 sticker, but that should be expected I suppose. The one that really shook me was the one that had a confederate flag next to some text; it said, "If I'd have known how it would turn out, I would've picked my own damn cotton." That bumper sticker would probably get your tires slashed in a lot of major US cities, even in Houston depending on where you park. Smdh. How did we make it this far?
Masks are also pretty much non-existent now. Stores say that you have to wear them if you haven't been vaccinated, but there's no way that 95+% of people out here are vaccinated.
Economy: Supply chain issues are wild out here. My boss ordered a gate from Lowe's over a month ago, and it's still not here. We went in today and canceled the order because of how late it was. With regards to staples, the only things I saw missing from the grocery store were sweet tea and pickles. I don't know why I found it so funny that those were the things out of stock in a small town HEB.
Inflation is also wild. My boss was complaining to a friend that a 4x4x8 used to cost $15, now it costs $30. The guy responded that it seemed to be like that across pretty much everything he sees. I don't have any other specific prices for groceries or commodities, but that one was eye opening for me. I simply don't believe the numbers coming out of the official reports. I'm not sure if they've changed the formula/inputs for calculating inflation or what, but if something like a piece of wood has doubled in cost then there's no way were looking at single digit inflation.
Wildlife/Domesticated life: Probably my favorite part of this whole experience. I'm getting to see a LOT of cardinals, at least a few a day. Saw a couple of owls hanging out on the fence yesterday near sunset. I've never seen an owl irl so I thought that was pretty noteworthy. Also seen a fox carrying a squirrel in it's mouth. The dogs went ballistic over it. Speaking of dogs, one of the German shepherds here walked into the stable with a baby fawn in it's mouth, dead, of course. It's a little jarring to me that nature is this brutal. I mean I've seen documentaries and shows on wildlife and nature, but it's different when there's a baby deer being torn apart at your feet. As far as insects go, I've probably seen more types of dragonfly in the past couple of weeks than I have across the rest of my life put together. At first that made me happy, "look at these guys thriving despite a changing climate!" Then I realized that this us how life is supposed to be, with dogs and squirrels and insects flying about all over the place. You just don't see this level of life in the cities I've lived in/visited.
Miscellaneous: One of my coping strategies has been to work on creating a digital, instant, global revolution - and before you start commenting on how ridiculous that is, kindly fuck right off. I know it's not going to work, but doing this helps me deal with/process Collapse. Anyways, that being said, it ~~doubled~~ quadrupled in size this week, from 4 to 18 subscribers! I never thought that many people would find my stuff interesting/amusing.
>Inflation is also wild. My boss was complaining to a friend that a 4x4x8 used to cost $15, now it costs $30. The guy responded that it seemed to be like that across pretty much everything he sees. I don't have any other specific prices for groceries or commodities, but that one was eye opening for me. I simply don't believe the numbers coming out of the official reports. I'm not sure if they've changed the formula/inputs for calculating inflation or what, but if something like a piece of wood has doubled in cost then there's no way were looking at single digit inflation.
Not inflation. The cost of lumber has risen, lumber is more expensive. If you disagree then you need to present a really good argument for why you think the dollar has dropped 130% in value over the last year.
At a minimum prices are up 20% in my area
Can you share your project? I'd like to join if possible.
Houston area checking in. Great post. Checking out your sub!
Are you familiar with the Revolution Now podcast with Peter Joseph?
Will check him out! Thanks
Thank you for all this. Pretty solid coverage of all the greatest hits.
As to your coping strategies: we all act in accordance to how we perceive the world, and that is the thing I think makes all this worth fighting for. The infinite variations in how we each tackle problems, reach out and share and connect…it’s a blessing and a curse, but god damn if it isn’t powerful stuff when everyone works together for something good that they believe in.
A better world is possible. Fighting for that is still worth it even if we lose.
Yo! Thank you for your message. That positive energy your comment is giving me right now is phenomenal. A better world is very much possible; and fighting for the sake of fighting, even if defeat is all but guaranteed, is still necessary for personal meaning. We cannot pick the reality we were born into, but we can pick what to create within that reality.
I joined your sub, I see the reality that is coming. And honestly, it should scare the living fuck out of every person. I live in Vegas, been here for 10 years and before that I lived in a small farming town in Utah.
I have been watching the water levels of the Colorado/virgin River virtually disappear over the course of my 30 years of life.
The level of the lake mead has dropped +-140 ft in last 20 years. That's equivalent to a 13 story building. https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2021/06/06/hoover-dam-drought-water-levels-lake-mead/5291323001/
Everything south of Colorado along the river is doomed, and the government is just starting to make changes here in Vegas. I.e: Water consumption laws for business' and city, and an ornamental grass ban. Which doesn't go into effect I believe until next year or 2023.
Farmers throughout the Nevada and Arizona are told to fallow up to 40% of their fields. "In Pinal County, up to 40% of farmland that relies on Colorado River water could be fallowed over the next few years, said Stefanie Smallhouse, president of the Arizona Farm Bureau Federation."
In short, water is a problem that we have been turning a blind eye towards because creature comforts and economic growth is more important.
Location: Colorado. Traffic has jumped to an absurd level here, I ride my bike suburban roads and strip malls, its harder to not get killed by a truck not paying attention. 2/10 drivers here text and drive, which is pretty fucked up. The pollution has also gotten pretty bad. r/fuckcars
Enthusiastic upvote for introducing me to that sub
Location: Los Angeles / San Fernando Valley:
The housing bubble seems to be coming to a head at least in my area. The cheapest homes (usually small, around 1170 sqft interior) are going for $1.5 million minimum, while more 'upscale' or larger homes are going for $2.5-$4 million and seem to be selling quickly. I signed up for Redfin to see how fast the houses are flipping. When I was out for my walk today, I noticed about a quarter to a third of the homes on any given block had For Sale signs. Some blocks, half the houses are up.
Conversely, there's been a rash of structure and apartment fires locally. More than a few have been identified as arson per the police blotters and Citizen App. Rents are absolutely out of control, the same rundown building billing itself as luxury and was offering a 1BR/1BA for $1695 in March is now asking $2345, likely for the /same/ apartment. Lots of moving trucks.
My rent was finally raised, but only $100, after two years. Likely due to the rent/mortgage and eviction moratorium ending on June 30th. Things are going to get ugly come the 30th unless the moratorium is extended by the State.
Places that were formerly super gung ho about permanent WFH are now reversing themselves and demanding at least hybrid offices, so the I-10, I-405, and CA-101 are now worse than before the pandemic. Many people are leaving their jobs and moving on to different companies because the commute and toxic work environment are not worth it, even if they're paid well. Good for them.
Out and About:
As things become less locked down, people are abandoning masks completely -- which is to be expected, as our local vaccination rate, for even one dose, is fairly high. Outdoor dining is packed to the gills at pretty much every restaurant, given the nice weather. Indoor dining is now available in most places. A few hold-outs are waiting for June 15th.
Food, Spirits, and Entertainment:
Food prices though have become astronomical. My food bill has increased easily by 20% since the same time last year with no appreciable change in the volume of my consumption. I have been subtly and slowly shifting my household to a primarily vegetarian diet with eggs being the primary animal protein and meat maybe once or twice a week at most. I want to get off animal protein soon though.
Sadly, produce has become ludicrous and often sad/untasty. Had to turn an entire batch of bananas recently into bread because they were dry and virtually inedible on their own. Stuff being sold in packages or even out on its own is frequently wilted or clearly past its prime. Alcohol is quickly becoming a prohibitively expensive luxury. Even getting six bottles of wine, at the discounts offered, can quickly add $60-80 to your grocery bill if you want to have more than (sometimes barely drinkable) table wine.
Beer has gotten pretty expensive as well, for what you pay for a 12 Pack of Coors, you might as well just spend the money and get a craft six-pack. You'll ultimately get the same amount of alcohol and it tastes better. Cheap spirits are now $12+ a bottle. The quality of normally "reputable but affordable" brands (Svedka, Smirnoff, Skyy, Jim Beam, Seagrams) has also decreased as I noticed I feel lousy even after one or two drinks the next day. I feel like I might as well be drinking frat-house jungle juice made with Winner's Cup or Popov for the raunchiness, so I basically banished hard liquor from my house.
The movie theaters near me have not survived and AMC is really the only option and that's a drive. I've decided my couch, a good sound system, and the TV I've had for a while is a much better investment and I will either pay for streaming access if I absolutely must see a new movie or just wait until it's part of my subscription fee.
However, at the same time, the internet has become increasingly unreliable and spotty in my area and Spectrum has a monopoly for the most part, so there are no other options. We just need to deal.
Some electronics are getting hard to get or more expensive because of the microchip shortage. This has forced me to do more with less on my job and hobbies, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I enjoy the challenge.
We're facing a massive drought again. So... yea.
We're kinda screwed.
Just the name Popov makes my stomach turn. Resorting to that would be a true sign of personal collapse.
Yea, I brought alcohol up as that’s many peoples coping mechanism. And when it gets to expensive to afford, lots of suffering is going to happen.
I noticed today, the grocery (walmart) here in my rural sw town has put all the liquor behind locked glass. Like, two aisles of locked glass shelves.
Location: France, Paris Area,
Lots of birds and bees and insects around. Even saw a dragonfly today. Plenty of toads in the ponds in the local parks. But the trees are having a hard time. The ones that haven't already turned orange-brown and dried up (dead trees standing imo), seem to be producing an alarming amount of cones/seeds/flowers. The worst hit are the "christmas tree" and pine types, but the leafy trees are not doing as well as it seems. They often have a deep crack along the trunk.
Still everything is still green, some ground flowers have blossomed, but not as much as the previous years. It's warm like it should be by the end of july (27°c/80°f), but at least rain is forecasted for next week.
I'm thinkling this might just be the last "good year", and trying to enjoy the fuck out of it.
42% of french people have recieved at least one jab, 21% have had both doses.
Clearly people are going about maskless as soon as they've got their first jab, even though they should wait a couple of weeks to get decent immunity from it, and the second jab to be fully vaccinated. So added to the anti-mask nutters, 60% of the population is going around maskless in my area.
I'm still fully masked each time I go out.
Cases are slowing down, the weather is warm, and restaurants are reopening, the curfew has been delayed until 11pm, so people feel like life is back to normal, and we should enjoy it before the next lockdown happens "this autumn".
What I really don't get in this line of thought is that the variant expected to overtake us by this autumn, is the Delta/Indian variant, which sure as hell doesn't seem to mind heatwaves in its area of origin. We've already found a couple of Delta variant clusters in France unrelated to travelers.
We're planning a short vacation this summer, in a rented house by the woods. Since everyone seems to be rushing towards the many beaches around France, we should be pretty alone there.
It was hell to find a rental at all this year, everything is overpriced and being rented faster than the websites can show (when rented by a person, as opposed to by a company)
I'm getting a similar crazed vibe from people than this Christmas, where people are like actively nurtering their Denial that things are teetering on the edge of the cliff, and overdoing the YOLO "enjoy your life" line in a manic kind of fashion, this time focusing on big splashes in the water, instead of a home plastered in red, white and green junk.
I half expect to come back to a looted appartment (for no particular reason, just a bad feeling about this summer), and actively fully wishing (my own personal "manic" coping mechanism) to find our dream home (we're actively house hunting on a tight budget with mad requirements, an impossible task) before we leave, so we can just cancel the rental and focus on moving instead, to our walled forest garden heaven, and start bonding with the locals.
I'm sorry, I'm not following the news too closely these days, so that's all I have to share today.
Location: Catskills NY
It's been July/August hot in the region, although temperatures are going back down to around 75F next week for a few days. Strange rolling thunderstorms that seem to miss and or not drop any significant rainfall. I've noticed how fast the spring flowers burnt up this year with the heat, they normally hang around a lot longer..
Super. Limited. Pollinators. A lot more pests.
Other observation... people generally seem on edge or aggressive now like at the store or out and about. I'm not sure if it has to do with the heat. Everyone just seems burnt out.
Location: Middle of Mass, USA
Most people have been discussing the heat wave we had up here so I don't need to go into that. The thing that nobody around here seems to have considered given the heat and storms recently, is how they would deal with the heat if their power went out. I've asked some friends and they just sortof blankly look at me and say, "huh, no. I didn't even think of that". Just wild that people think "black outs aren't a NE problem,"... yet.
Additionally, it was interesting to see that even though yesterday's heat index was higher than Tuesday, it wasn't considered "as hot" and the schools around here didn't get the half day. Temps weren't above 90 here, but index had us around 95/96. Just curious if weather reporters will switch to more heat index/wind chill based measurements as we have more severe weathers.
I was wondering about it last spring when the pandemic 1st got going (Philly resident). Power outages aren't common in highly urban areas but happen fairly regularly in suburban areas every time a big storm passes through. You combine pandemic, associated economic issues, storms / heat, + no power & other shortages all together & we're screwed big-time. IMO everyone should be getting their vaccines now while they still can because I'm sure Texas taught us all this winter it will be a lot harder once infrastructure fails in bad weather. Being vaccinated at least will allow you to concentrate on the other preparations. Hopefully the Gulf coast is paying attention w/ their low vax rates as we enter hurricane season...
At this point, a long/big enough blackout would turn to chaos.
Imho the low vax rate will fuck the world in long term and let it keep mutating
About blackouts: don't usually both big but short & small but long have roughly the same impact? Like a 30-minute blackout across a whole continent vs one city being out for a few weeks.
A 30 min nation wide blackout wouldn't be as bad as a long term one in one area imo.
If we're talking CME, and internet is down too, yeah. 30 min will mean riots imo. If a city like NYC goes down electric peak summer people will die of the heat. Hell, without the blackout, if we(collective ne) had a week of heat index above 100, we'd have numerous deaths. Not all homes have ac/adequate ventilation. Ffs we dont gurantee AC in schools in my state (MA).
I think we did have heat index past 100 °F/38 °C for over a week during some of our longer heat waves. There are usually some casualties in those as not everyone can stay cool 24/7. Even people who have AC can be in danger if they forget to check up on it before summer starts. Don't want a breakdown right as the heat is rolling in due to a problem a bit of preventative maintenance could've handled.
The deal with heat and humidity with power out is a question I have been working on for 8 or so years.
The best I have are:
Plant south and west trees
Exterior shades on windows
Interior blackout curtains/insulated curtains
Battery powered fans
Water/cooling towel/spray bottle of water/socks soaked in water
Hammock (stolen from indigenous tropical cultures that do not have electricity)
If anyone else has good no-power suggestions please share.
Last summer, I bought some rolls of cheap alfoil and taped sheets of it to the inside of my sun-facing windows - kept a lot of the afternoon sun's heat out. I don't have a/c so I found it helped cool the house.
Thanks for the tip. I’m going to try this on the big west-facing windows in my house. They let in so much heat that my AC struggles to keep up when it’s really hot.
No worries :)
If water isn't a concern in this situation (near a local pond/stream) you can throw water on the roof to help cool it off as well.
In the Middle East where I grew up before coming to America, on very hot days, (if you couldn't go swimming,) my mother would wrap us up in a bed sheet that was dunked in a pail of water.
Some nights in summer, it's so hot that my feet swell and feel like they're throbbing. Last summer, I tried wetting socks and wearing them to bed (with the fan on high) and it worked enough that I was able to get some sleep. I also often put a damp towel over me (again under the fan) and sleep under that. It's not exactly comfortable but it's enough to relievs the heat so I can sleep a bit.
I live near Worcester and we'd hangout in the basement when it got too hot. Tough luck for those living in upper level apartment units. Lots of elderly around here so I expect if there was a heatwave and the power went out many would perish.
I live in Pennsylvania and have always done the same. The vast majority of houses here have basements, so I’ve always had somewhere comfortable to go during summer power outages. Rural areas like mine would mostly be fine in a prolonged summer power outage, but I could see it being a disaster in big northeastern cities where most people live in apartments, especially if it happened during a heat wave.
Location: Northwestern Germany (rural)
Usually at this time of the year you would see bats. Up to ten of them would circle above our "lawn" (mowed weeds and wildflowers) at once.
Yesterday I saw one single bat.
It is possible they froze to death in February when nighttime temperatures went below -20 °C for about a week. Apart from that I see no obvious reasons. No logging, no major construction. I fear their population won't recover.
Plenty of mosquitos. Not so sure about moths. We changed the little outdoor lighting we have to yellowish LEDs specifically to disturb nocturnal creatures less. Could be that moths are no longer attracted, could be that they're gone.
Location: german reddit
I got this invitation
A site, were it is only allowed to post good news(!!!) , well, lol.
I've been there, it's indeed good news, at first sight, you might think we live in an ever better going paradise, were ubi, holistic environmentalism and reversing climate change and and ecocide is just minutes away, because....?
I find it creepy, actually, in the sense that i feel like they want to groom "alarmists" into low and no impact making actions, or simply just dream of a better world
Extra joke: they advertise "uplifting news" too, which clearly is the dystopian shit no. 1!!!!
Edit: went through the nature reservate tiday, they chopped (for whatever reason in a nature reservate) the grass yesterday.
Everything started to become yellow just one day later. It's "spring", but we have 27C, what was formerly known as "hundstage" (dogs days) in late august. Mowing the greens so the sun and wind can dry out the soil faster, when most probably there won't be any rain for the next 3 or 4 month is so fucking human.
It's crazy that most school kids don't remember a spring, since the last years we went from "maybe a little winterish" to "tropical heat". This is germany, i'm not supposed to consider an ac, because my appartment is right under the roof and 30C inside, IN SPRING! I miss the seasons
They also(nature reservate) had to build a wall and a fence(yes, both) around a little pond to protect the frogs , this is fucking sad.
Unfortunately you gave a generic link which shows any user their own messages. Could you please edit your comment so that it includes a copy of the invitation? I'm curious about what you are referring to
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I copied it, to damn stoned to make a screnshot.
I took a look at the subreddit. It’s kind of nice to look through some good news as long as you keep balance in mind. Looking at depressing shit all day doesn’t do anyone any good.
I also think it's very nice and likeable, it's basically the opposite of collapse.
It is just, that all these noice news, channelled to the assumed audience, can have the opposite of action, since it camouflages as :"everything will be fine"
when, instead, brutal action is needed.
I'll defenitely go there from time to time, as a copium mix, it's just that, it does not allow negative news. Technically, collapse allows positive news, it's just the sake of the sub, that they won't be digested in the "business as usaual" way, but you CAN post collapse related positive news, and even get a discussion.
My problem is more with :"tryna make anti greta sentiment mainstream via grassroting"
Posts there are dismissing actual, real and imminent issues as if they are non existent.
I'll have to wait for a "positive" friday for future post to be dismissed as "doomist".
I appreciate the positivity they want, but i fear for them hitting reality, whilst ignoring it.
In terms of the semi-shortages, I'm from Melbourne, Aus, and they sound very familiar. When we opened up after lockdown last November, children's clothes were in very short supply everywhere. Several stores explained that, as they weren't open when they put in their summer clothes orders in August/September, they didn't have the stock to display in November/December.
Thankfully, there's been a lot of choice available ahead of winter; it really was only temporary. But like you, I thought the fragility of these supply lines showed how interdependent everything is.
I live near a region that grown that type of fruit. Kelowna BC. I think part of the issue has been transportation breakdown rather than availability of crop. A lot of those fruits are grown in small regios and shipped around the world premature and allowed to chemically mature on the way to their destinations. Due to a pandemic lockdown there is just kinnk in hte delivery chain becoing noticeable. As to the others I cant comment.
I agree, it must be a transportation issue. Our seasonal cherry seller is selling his usual Rainiers right on schedule (near Olympia, WA). He gets his from Yakima (eastern Washington--warms up faster across the Cascade mountains). None of the several varieties on our own trees are ever ripe this time of year, but we're looking at a bumper crop. It helps that we keep bees.
Edit: added note about Yakima
here a large issue is that the interior uses a force of migrant hippy and french canadian labour (seriously like TONS of smelly hippies pick fruit and sleep in tents)
the smell can be wild.
Huh, you're right. I stink.
Location: MP, IN
nautapa was poor this year due to 2 cyclones. Nice. Atleast I didn't have to waste so much money on electricity for that dreadful week. Monsoon is on time .
Food prices look okayish. Carrots a bit expensive tho. Have become functionally vegan. Difficult to cut down on ghee.
Lockdowns eased again and we await tercero ola any time now.
It is a wasteland out there.
since you're already basically plant-based, why not look into veganism as in its ethical side? [earthling ed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3u7hXpOm58) does great educational and accesible content on veganism. i would also recommend [this documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko&) on animal farming.
> Difficult to cut down on ghee.
Location: Central IL
Does the sun just feel A LOT hotter to anyone else? I can't believe the temperature difference between shade and sun, and god forbid you go onto absolutely anything concrete that's also in the sun, it is misery. I know that's always been a lot hotter in certain places but I swear I don't remember it being quite that bad here, especially not in early June after a stupidly chilly May. I got sunburnt after being in the sun for barely half an hour!
Yes. Proof is in my indoor plants. I can't put them anywhere near the window anymore without them getting burned. This did not use to happen
I’ve noticed this here in central Pennsylvania too. Some days the sun is so intense it reminds me of visiting Arizona, which certainly isn’t how it should be in the northeast. I hate it and it gives me a constant headache on sunny days.
Another possibility is lack of aerosol effect from the airplane, you can verify this during full Moon, had it gone brighter and dark alley is really sharp now. But this will only account for these two year different.
I've observed that the sun is considerably hotter over the last 10 or so years than the previous four decades of my life. It's undeniable to me.
Yup in Chicago and got sunburnt a few times this year already! I don’t think our ozone is doing so good.
I have noticed this in western Missouri. Between that and the humid/ arid line shifting east from the 100th meridian, tis much different to be outdoors than when I was a kid. I'm not old.
A possible explanation:
[Boulder scientists study declining ozone health in the lower stratosphere](https://www.fortmorgantimes.com/2020/01/19/boulder-scientists-probe-issues-in-recovery-of-the-ozone-layer/)
[Ozone Depletion in the Lower Stratosphere Due to Iodine From Oceans ](https://scitechdaily.com/ozone-depletion-in-the-lower-stratosphere-due-to-iodine-from-oceans/)
>A new paper quantifying small levels of iodine in Earth’s stratosphere could help explain why some of the planet’s protective ozone layer isn’t healing as fast as expected. The paper posits a set of connections that link air pollution near Earth’s surface to ozone destruction much higher in the atmosphere. That higher-level ozone protects the planet’s surface from radiation that can cause skin cancer and damage crops.
>“The impact is maybe 1.5 to 2 percent less ozone,” said lead author Theodore Koenig, a postdoctoral researcher at CIRES and the University of Colorado Boulder, referring to ozone in the lower part of the ozone layer, around Earth’s tropics and temperate zones. “That may sound small, but it’s important,” he said. A slightly thinner ozone layer means more UVB radiation can get through to Earth’s surface.
Thanks for posting this. I figured the change was due to some kind of atmospheric conditions, and it sounds like this is likely a large part of it.
Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.
Yep. RIP Ozone , no more protection.
Location: northern continental U.S.
I’m on a giant road trip (Mi to Wa) and the amount of fucking depressing ghost towns where a few thousand people have nothing to do without driving 20+ miles hit me hard.
No businesses, minimal local cultures outside of larger cities. If the country wasn’t so beautiful I’d classify these smaller derelict towns as post-apocalyptic or collapsed
Was this your first time driving across the states? I've done it many many times over the last decade and there's no noticable change. I've also lived in rural Nevada and that's just sort of the way the united states is set up.
Can someone wake the Graboid ? The town need it.
I did a cross country road trip a couple years ago and was really struck by the same thing. I started looking up population statistics and found that a lot of these small towns have been declining for decades now. And just looking at them they’re completely run down.
You'd hear about these types of towns in the run-up to the 2016 election on NPR. So many of the people they interviewed were all so convinced Trump was going to save their little towns, reopen the mill, etc.
I genuinely feel bad for the people living in those towns, but at the same time, a lot of their problems are self-inflicted by how they engage politically (voting R no matter what, not that Ds are much better to be perfectly honest) and more than a few in interviews openly admitted they refused additional training or opportunities to move because of 'principle and pride' or 'this is how my granddaddy did it, how my daddy did it, and damnit, it's how I'm gonna do it...' or as plain simple as "I just had things I would rather do on my time off than learn something new...".
I would agree they're in collapse-state now. Not only because of the greater problems occurring, such as climate change, resource shortages, the pandemic, but plainly, "the world moved on", and many refused to move on with it. Those arc words from the *Dark Tower* series resonate very much with those little towns.
There is a part of the midwest that collapsed long before the rise of the tea party and rural areas voting R.
Where I am from we elected democrats. The towns fell apart somewhere from the mid to late 80s when family farms could no longer make it. It has come in waves since then every 5 or 8 years another wave of failures for the families that did not grow big enough fast enough.
The town anchors were the grain elevator, implement dealer, church, hole in the wall diner, and local bar/liquor store.
The growth of corporate farms were the death knell to the vast majority of small towns.
I think there was some tax change or law change at the federal level (I am too young to know the details).
I remember whispers of suicides, auctions where everyone I knew felt wrong. Those towns were dying long before they started voting stupidy.
Not saying that helped, really bad move on their part but everyone I knew that could get out did. There were jobs as the corporate farms truck stuff into their farm - no local purchases etc.
This is an excellent point and thanks for filling in more information. I'm only really cognizant of the contemporaneous situation and often forget, despite studying history, many rural areas were heavily Democratic.
Getting away from politics and into the general gestalt, i wonder if there is a way to help the non-corporate ruralites at this point... I'm not optimistic.
Bitter, cynical, angry. Many rural areas see the cities as fluff who produce nothing real. Farmers are the backbone of our economy for a hundred + years. That mindset has not disappeared.
I want to say they are voting what they have been told but I also want to say that moving a bunch of tech and remote workers to these towns is a perfect opportunity.
Those are consumers that could support a local diner or two. Those are people that can get to know each other and maybe learn from each other.
But my bottom line answer? Break the corporate monopolies. Change whatever tax systems we need to. Go after investor ownership of land.
And yup, corporate farms are efficient. Very efficient. Family farms are not scaled, cannot scale and in my opinon should not scale. Family farms are usually more resilient as well as more diversified. But also because they are family farms they end up being accountable to the local community. Corporate farms will never be accountable to the community.
Any community left is going to move away once a hog operation is brought in. That is, if they can get someone to buy their home/land. It is an awful situation where money buus everything and humans do not matter.
Here is Wendell Berry corroborating your insights:
> By this time, the era of cut-and-run economics ought to be finished. Such an economy cannot be rationally defended or even apologized for. The proofs of its immense folly, heartlessness, and destructiveness are everywhere. Its failure as a way of dealing with the natural world and human society can no longer be sanely denied. That this economic system persists and grows larger and stronger in spite of its evident failure has nothing to do with rationality or, for that matter, with evidence. It persists because, embodied now in multinational corporations, it has discovered a terrifying truth: If you can control a people’s economy, you don’t need to worry about its politics; its politics have become irrelevant. If you control people’s choices as to whether or not they will work, and where they will work, and what they will do, and how well they will do it, and what they will eat and wear, and the genetic makeup of their crops and animals, and what they will do for amusement, then why should you worry about freedom of speech? In a totalitarian economy, any "political liberties" that the people might retain would simply cease to matter. If, as is often the case already, nobody can be elected who is not wealthy, and if nobody can be wealthy without dependence on the corporate economy, then what is your vote worth? The citizen thus becomes an economic subject.
~WB, *Another Turn of the Crank*
I have a shelf full of his books. I can never pull the right quote but everyone should be reading wb. I can hardly call him subversive but his logic runs in a very different direction tham muchbof our modern discussions.
Yes, it is clarifying, humane and wise. Context is everything with Berry. His writings are deeply ecological and communitarian. Rural communities did not roll over and die because they wanted to, but because structural and historic forces disfigured and mutilated the rural human condition. I'm a city lad, but have lived in a rural hinterland - fast becoming a "sacrifice zone" - for almost 3 decades. It's a sad, sad thing to witness.
And then we wonder why people there are easily swung by politicians and talking heads into anger and poor voting choices.
I grew up 'there' and would not trade it for the world. I hate being in a city but work and partner are here and partner's work requires a city.
I think we would all be happier humans if we lived in those small towns but had decent rail (am in the US) to go into the big city for events and such once in awhile but work, community, home were in those smaller groups.