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400HPMustang

I have a few thoughts on the matter. First, life itself is fatal. Given that inevitably, I’m going to die happy. My great grandfather lived well into his 90’s eating red meat, drinking coffee and smoking cigars every day. It wasn’t cancer got him it was old age and Alzheimer’s. How’s that?


asant88

Funny thing is eating red meat, drinking coffee and smoking cigars are actually all slowly being revealed to good for us. I myself have been partaking in a keto/carnivore diet and my main foods are beef, bacon, butter and black coffee. I've lost almost 100lbs with no exercise and no starving. And of course I enjoy cigars and pipe tobacco here and there which has dramatically reduced my stress levels. When I tell my doctor about my new found enlightenment, he thinks I'm completely joking with him.


400HPMustang

It’s the carbs that trip me up. If I cut those out I’ll be good to go but yes all the things that were touted as bad for us the last 40 years or more are now good.


Inadequis

FDA says minimal risk for 1-2 per day smokers


DickoBJJ

Theres a WHO study floating around that says less than 1-2 a day had negligible health effects. I looked super deep into this when i first started smoking cigars and for me any risk is minimal and worth it. Much better served cutting down on booze


bullsbarry

Cigars are not healthy, but neither are cheeseburgers. They don't have the same health risks as cigarette use, but they're also not without risk. The question is would you think twice about an occasional double cheeseburger with bacon, or a pour of whiskey?


400HPMustang

Mmm….bacon double cheeseburger, whiskey, and cigars. Whelp I guess I know what I’m doing tonight.


bullsbarry

I was a little hungry when I wrote that.


krispykremekiller

Don’t take medical advice from people who don’t know. To answer your question though the human body isn’t a perfect subject. Why do some people get cancer or heart disease and others don’t with the same lifestyle choices? It’s complicated


Cgbgjr

Exactly. For some folks the slightest smell of cigar smoke will send them into a coughing fit. Others can smoke several cigars a day for decades with no ill effects. Statistics are not that helpful for individuals. If you are worried about it smoke in moderation.


Tapaszto

Well, on one hand you are right, personal experiences are far from being predictive for you. On the other hand, there are a few scientific papers (though very limited in number) claiming that smoking 1-2 cigars a day did not show a significant increase of health risks compared to control groups. Why acknowledging that this might vary individually, these studies can be trusted till new and stronger scientific evidence proves otherwise.


YellowRead

They will kill you.


BackOfTheBeerCooler

Living life will eventually kill you.


YellowRead

Cigars will eventually kill you faster


BackOfTheBeerCooler

Faster than what? Faster than 200 meter mixed-gas cave diving? Faster than 100 mile per day road bike riding? Faster than colo-rectal cancer? Faster than walking through the park in Afghanistan? “Faster” is such a relative term. It really does depend on one’s personal world-view, philosophy, daily experiences, and individual situation.


YellowRead

Cigars will kill you faster then if you did not smoke them. Check my posts, I smoke cigars.


BackOfTheBeerCooler

I’m not arguing, just putting a different viewpoint out there. Terms like “safe” and “fast” are very relative to what (and whom specifically) is being compared. Personally, I would have died long ago from an über-high-stress job paired with hypertension had I not had my daily 1-2 hours to unwind with a quality drink and a smoke…


YellowRead

Yeah, didn’t wanna argue either… Cigars aren’t good for you, just a fact. They will contribute to your death. I chose to smoke them cause I love them. As long as you can live with the consequences, happy days. I just don’t want people to be dilutional that they have no impact on your health