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baba123420

2 clubs ahead of us to sign rice according to Matt law. City and Liverpool? Surely he comes to Chelsea


Same-Victory8638

Who does everyone want in the FA Cup? Milwall probably no1


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zizouz13

There is some truth to the way our guys are playing. Context matters of course but Kai hasn’t been good, Mount against USA left a lot to be desired while Puli and Ziyech are doing pretty well. We are 8th in the league so our system has to be in question


KickBallsLikeDrogba

Dani Olmo is a serious player


zizouz13

Top player


FastenedCarrot

CFs are back in fashion.


I-Can_Defend

Our midfield sucks though


jMS_44

Ziyech and Pulisic with MVP awards for their WC matches, if Havertz gets one as well (which is unlikely atm) it will be my worst nightmare.


ScorpiaHP

Havertz is so bad he can't even get off the bench


BigReeceJames

KDB after being given the award: "I don’t know why I have got the trophy. Maybe it’s because of the name."


TimothyN

Why? It's great that Chelsea players are doing well.


jMS_44

but it's against my narrative


FastenedCarrot

Based?


I-Can_Defend

Havertz is shite


gaffertedlasso

Germany needs a goal and Kai stays on the bench....not a good look


haiduy2011

not having timo werner has been disastrous for germany so far.


xKarma17

Morata is probably better than any of our forwards right now lmao


FastenedCarrot

We say that about everyone but Lukaku


opouser

Lmao true


FastenedCarrot

Terrific goal.


absurdsolitaire

Morata runs into the corner and loses possession. Never change.


dryduneden

Oh brother


FastenedCarrot

Proper Chelsea.


FastenedCarrot

Always liked Morata and I like seeing him do well.


FastenedCarrot

Every single German player attacking offside lol


FastenedCarrot

Gavi the bully.


EEBBfive

If you really look at the world cup games it becomes obvious why Chelsea is struggling. Watching england play literally felt like I was watching Chelsea. Mount as a cam is so uncreative that even a striker like Kane struggles. Compound that with havertz performances for his side which landed him on the bench. It’s no wonder that we can’t attack with such uninventive players up front. What makes it even worse is that pulisic and ziyech literally elevated their teams with their effort and creativity, literally what Chelsea needs, and yet we keep sticking with these cardio merchants that just run around losing the ball all game. At what point do we question why our attackers, 5+ attackers with different profiles and strengths, all struggle in our team. All of them suck? Really? At what point do we accept that the blame lies with our midfield? People will dismiss it as the World Cup being and easier environment but keep in mind that our starters are all playing here as well. You can’t be playing Connor ghallagar and rlc with ziyech and pulisic on the bench, like cmon.


zizouz13

I agree, we don’t have one decent forward passing CM which has continued to hurt us. On top of that Kante is in the hospital more than he is on the field. Kovacic in and out of the team and the Jorginho is essentially ineffective when we try to attack. Because of this our front 3 struggles immensely because we literally need them to pick the ball in midfield and go forward, they are not CMs. Why do Pulisic and Ziyech do better for their teams, because they have support from the midfield


BigReeceJames

The reason watching England is like watching Chelsea is the same reason that watching Belgium is like watching Chelsea. The manager not being capable.


justmots

Can't help but feel butthurt about how all these players are doing so well with their respective national teams, but can't perform same level for Chelsea. Makes me feel they will not perform for Potter.


dryduneden

They're just playing at a lower level. Would you be saying the same thing if they were on loan tearing up the Championship?


EEBBfive

I’m more convinced that the issue is the players they play with not with the players themselves. I think the World Cup is showing Chelsea fans which of our players are actually good and which are being scapegoated. You can’t shine offensively with Jorginho and mount in the mid.


chac43

Agreed,been saying for a long time Jorginho is not a long campaign midfielder, he is good for cup games. Mount still is young, but I don't yet feel confident of winning with him in the team. Kovacic should be starting all games when fit though. Just need a good DM and another midfielder similar to the Modric role/profile.


69BigDickMan420

Exactly what I’m thinking. Only kovacic is fine for our midfield, we need enzo and some creative mid to partner him.


RoughCollies

Of all the utterly negligent player decisions made by the previous regime over the last 7 years, letting Rudiger go hurts me the most.


zizouz13

100% but I guess we haggled on Rudis wages only to pay top dollar to KK, who is absolutely horrendous


FastenedCarrot

Dani Olmo is a class player and would really improve our creativity imo. Been great every game I've seen him play.


jMS_44

Unfortunately he is another one of these types that if Barca come's asking for him, he will go there.


FastenedCarrot

Has he said much about them?


jMS_44

He was already talking about coming back to Barca when he was playing for Dinamo


FastenedCarrot

Lol never mind then.


Mourning-Woood

Germany continuing with the false 9 while they have Füllkrug and Moukoko riding the bench is maddening.


jMS_44

Well, NT football is a bit different. Coaches usually rate players based on experience and how long they played for NT before. And especially of Moukoko it would be huge risk to bank on him, especially in a game like that.


Bob_Swaget

Play Rudiger at the 9, who says no?


wHispeRing-I

Give me 11 Rudiger. I’ll take on anybody ![gif](giphy|XrLFQEut1kYk9vVG8i)


InLampsWeTrust

So Mount has allegedly turned down a 200k a week contract ? Anyone think the club will push to 250-300k ? 300k would be excessive imo.


BigReeceJames

I highly doubt there is any truth to the article because it came out in the middle of a world cup which means there is exactly zero chance he's negotiating his contract at the moment Also, I think they have to pay him that if they want to keep him. It's the corner you back yourself into when you give the contracts to Sterling and Koulibaly that we did. They were completely insane and a lot of us pointed it out at the time and were shot down. Look at United and Barca, once you start breaking your wage structure it just spirals out of control because everyone else will work their contract renewals/new contracts out based on what they're already paying other players.


BadCogs

Gvardiol is the guy. Whoever doesn't see quality there has no ball knowledge. If we miss out on him it would be fucking sad. He is the Silva replacement. Please Chelsea and all the gods, I have been asking since last year, do me this favor, get Gvardiol to Chelsea F.C.


The-Greatest-Hokage

He’s been in awful form for Leipzig most of the season


BadCogs

He was literally coming from a big injury, it takes most a year to get to form after that and he has strated balling last few games and now in WC. Without context things look different.


The-Greatest-Hokage

Gvardiol is good but personally, I wouldn't use the WC as a way of judging form


BadCogs

It's not just WC that I am using to judge him though, it is just helping him showcase his level on big stage but he has been great long before this.


I-Can_Defend

What do you says if Messi is available for 1 more season, would you take the little magician?


dryduneden

On reasonable wages absolutely


aacod15

As good as he is, the last thing we need is another old, declining player on high wages when we are trying to rebuild the team. And if his first season at Psg is anything to go by, he’d probably take over a season to adapt to the league anyway


PeizeFighter

Havertz benched for a must win game for his country, that's my generational talent


BigReeceJames

You realise this game basically become pointless today and the game Vs Costa Rica is the only one that matters? It's the complete opposite of a must win. The group comes down to whether or not they can beat Costa Rica and then it comes down to goal difference and they might not even need that after Spain beat Japan.


Baisabeast

Eh? Are you an ostrich?


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BigReeceJames

They could, but they won't. This Spain team aren't losing to Japan and if Germany don't batter Costa Rica then there is no reason for them to go through anyway


I-Can_Defend

He’s overrated, he’s not generational in anyway. I literally can’t think of a elite skill of his. Haaland: Elite finishing Musiala: Elite dribbling in tight spaces Pedri: Elite dribbling and vision/passing Gavi: Elite interceptions ability and can press really well Kvaratskhelia: Elite dribbling and vision Leo: Elite dribbling Enzo Fernandez: Elite interception and basic passing ability/ a thing for elite strikes Gvardiol: Elite defending and passing young Silva…. L. Hall: Chillwel 2.0 only more potential….


ESP_14

Look out for the downvotes from the Havertz fan boys!


dryduneden

"Havertz fan boys" like that exact sort of comment isn't massively upvoted every single daily discussion


ESP_14

Nu uh??


Headlesshorsman02

We need to sign Gvardiol that is a must he is one of the best young CBs I have ever seen play


BadCogs

And many of our fans act like no we don't need him. He is going to be the world's best CB and you pass on him while have 3 CBs at club over 30.


Headlesshorsman02

Yes exactly he is technically one of the most sound CBS I’ve seen play and at 20 years old as well we NEED to sign him I don’t care if it takes €90 million like they wanted in the summer pay whatever it takes


Ok-Finance-7612

I’ve seen the light Gvardiol, Colwill, Fofana 3atb Gvardiol, Fofana 4atb


Headlesshorsman02

Then focus on the midfield after that


opouser

Midfield needs immediate focus


MrCleanandShady

If we go another transfer window without a midfield signing or two I give up lmao


Headlesshorsman02

You are not wrong with that one would love rice and gvardiol to be the signings and maybe try to pry de Jong from Barca because he is what we are missing in terms of creation from the midfield


Baisabeast

Kovacic is what we need from our 8. Next we need a good defensive minded midfielder and some creativity in there


TradeGortat

Yup we should have built our midfield around him


Cocobon95

Hard to build a midfield around someone who is so injury prone


zizouz13

Exactly


KMan3110

Give Kovacic whatever Mount is asking for. World class


Username6510

If kovacic could pass forward he'd be complete


Baisabeast

You lot just don’t watch the games do you?


Username6510

I watch every chelsea game. His forward passing isn't amazing


Baisabeast

Compared to who?


Username6510

Is there need for a comparison?


Baisabeast

Yes Why is Kovacic bad at passing? In comparison to who?


Username6510

Have you watched the game that's just been played? On the counter and he fluffs a pass that would've lead to a 1v1. I think he does this consistently when we're on a counter.


TimothyN

He frequently leads progressive passing and has for years. He gets the ball to our attackers, what they do with it has been the issue.


TradeGortat

Huh?


Username6510

He sometimes kills attacks by playing a poor forward pass on counters. I didn't think this was controversial


TimothyN

Kova and Ziyech having great outings today.


BadCogs

Man PSG have nearly finalized the signing of Luka Vuskovic. Man I am sad I wanted him so bad, one of the best young talents. Nothing is going good around Chelsea rightnow to give me some happiness.


ygog45

Some chelsea fans wanted to move on from Kovacic loool


SwitcherooU

I love the player, but his durability is a huge issue. I’d rather he stays, but I don’t blame anyone for wanting to move on from the many injury-prone players we have.


Hannibal09

Because people want to scapegoat the midfield for what their favourite attackers can’t do. Kovacic is world class and would thrive anywhere he goes


H4RRY29

Still do


ygog45

Judging from your comment history, I’m not surprised. Either you’re allergic to recognizing and appreciating technical ability or you just have a hard-on for British lads. There isn’t a single midfield available for less than a huge fee that can do what Kova does


H4RRY29

It has nothing to do with nationality, I appreciate everything he is good at but I'm also capable of recognising the bad in him. It also doesn't help that he reportedly wants to leave too.


Ok-Finance-7612

Renew Kova


TradeGortat

Great game from Kovacic. Why can‘t he stay fit ffs


Banged_by_bumrah

It was KDB vs Ziyech. While one guy stepped up and dribbled past the opposition, whipped in dangerous crosses, scored a disallowed goal from a set piece, gave a beautiful the other one was strolling on the pitch, kept dribbling into defenders, couldn't find his teammates in the box, didn't make one through ball and skied set pieces. You all can guess who was who


The-Greatest-Hokage

That’s been the De Bruyne WC story. People are blaming the manager, but De Bruyne is just straight up been awful. Always ghosts for Belgium


DickyD43

I only caught a few mins of the game but by the result I'm guessing you mean Hakim performed well?


Groundbreaking-Rub50

KDB was non-existent.You could say that this compared even poorly with some of the poor performance we have seen from our attackers this season.


Banged_by_bumrah

Yes


TokyoS4l

Good to see Ziyech and Pulisic performing.


Username6510

I cannot accept bald drogba


karard109

![gif](giphy|B8ly6hRdP0gLe)


Practical_Platypus_2

Ziyech stonks ⬆️


StandardConnect

It was bad enough having Michy and Lukaku at different times, imagine having both at the same time 🤣


InLampsWeTrust

Batshauyi is so awful to watch, the only thing he can do to an acceptable level is finish and even that’s questionable. The drop off between him and Lukaku is staggering.


Chepstin

>the only thing he can do to an acceptable level is finish and even that’s questionable. Sounds like you're talking about Lukaku


KerimChelsea11

No he can't he missed chances like crazy everywhere he has been. He is a total fraud, guy is stealing money from football clubs. Atrocious player.


Stand_On_It

What’s it say about us that we’ve had him for god knows how long lol


StandardConnect

Had debates with people who genuinely thought he deserved an extended chance in the side. I'm not the oracle and get as much wrong as right but how tf did anyone come to that conclusion.


DoubleOcorona

Think it's time as Chelsea fans that we actually accept the fact that our attacking players aren't bad, we just don't play to their strengths, we're not going to sign anyone that will miraculously start banging goals and assists. Seeing all these players in the world cup where they got flexibility to create it's crazy imo. Sacrificing so much of our attack to compensate for other areas won't work long term.


dryduneden

I think we're past the time when it was acceptable to belueve International Football was relevant. Our forwards suck, and that'd still hold true even if they were scoring and assisting 40 goals a season in the Championship, which honestly is probably a higher level than the world cup


ChenGuiZhang

Agreed. Ziyech has one good game against a washed Belgium side and people here think that overrides his countless passenger performances he's had for us where he loses the ball every second touch and gets physically bullied. It's like people don't realise 3 different managers now see him in training every day and don't regularly start him. They must all be wrong.


DoubleOcorona

I understand he hasn't performed in Chelsea but he's not the only players that seem to stick it at Chelsea, why is that?... it's a joke at this point.


ChenGuiZhang

In Ziyech's case it's pretty simple. He's a physically unimposing technical oriented player who needs far too much time on the ball to do his thing, which just isn't a good fit for the intensity of our league. Pulisic has still to have a good numbers season anywhere in his career so he was a buy on potential basis that hasn't really worked out for us. Potential is still there but I think it's a mental block with him. The frustrations with himself he shows on his face every time he gets something wrong are telling. Mount's numbers have been pretty good on the whole bar the last 6 months of awful form and Sterling started pretty well under Tuchel until Potter started playing him as a wingback. Too early to say on likes of Sterling and Auba for me. Both put up great numbers wherever they've been and we're only 1/3 into the season.


DoubleOcorona

You have highlighted problems that are valid, but the core of the problem still remains, most Chelsea attackers look clueless on the pitch half the time, either they get played out of position or they look lost on the pitch, that is an issue that isn't solely on the players.


ChenGuiZhang

Oh I agree there are systemic issues that I have confidence we'll solve, but Ziyech isn't one of those. He'll never be able to thrive in the intensity and physicality of this league when he needs so much time and space to excel, while offering nothing defensively. Just doesn't happen here. Pulisic I think has a good shot if he stays fit and sticks it out here. Good run of games and a few goals and the mental issues disappear.


DoubleOcorona

I truly believe any player can become successful if utilised in the right way, we lost so many talented player due to this. The fact that they still perform elsewhere confirms it. Our systems needs so much work at this point it's ridiculous, but hopefully we figure it out.


ChenGuiZhang

There aren't any players thriving in the modern premierleague who need 2 and 3 touches in 5 yards of space to play their game. It's not a thing and if you can't adjust your game you won't succeed in this league.


DoubleOcorona

Yep but playing attacking minded players as wingback or don't don't play to his strength won't help the situation, yh he gotto adjust or get sold but asking him to get better when we won't help the situation with our play doesn't make sense to me.


DoubleOcorona

The level of the world cup as a competition is up for debate but that doesn't matter in this scenario, we've seen these players perform at club level also, sterling has been performing in the prem for years, others in their various leagues, does that count for nothing.


dryduneden

Of course it counts for nothing, they were perfoming under completely different circumstances. Sterling was surrounded by several of the most creative players in the league putting chances on a plate for him. Lukaku and Ziyech performed because they were playing in leagues that gave them space they're reliant on, space they will never get in the low blocks we face every other week. Havertz was performing in a role and position we had 0 intention of acconodating.


DoubleOcorona

Everything you've said is valid, they were in different situations but it does count for something because we bought them to mirror those performances. You listed out 4 players, there are more, we buy players and don't utilize them properly is still clear to see. We got wingers playing wingback to accommodate one deficiency or the other, even in the attacking 3rd we look toothless even when we create, that isn't down to solely the players is what I'm saying.


dryduneden

>but it does count for something because we bought them to mirror those performances. No, it absolutely doesn't. You can't mirror those performances because the conditions they're playing in are vastly different. >You listed out 4 players, there are more, Like? >that isn't down to solely the players is what I'm saying. And I'm saying you are wrong.


DoubleOcorona

The conditions are different but world class players thrive is different conditions that's what make them world class, you don't break transfer fees for what ifs, we all know that, it to provide similar level of performance. Timo werner was performing then we signed him and he hasn't been the same since then, I'm not saying the players are blameless I'm saying we don't try to help them with our style of play, we got wingers playing as wingbacks which makes no sense, we got players that were banging in goals for fun clueless in front of goal repeatedly, that makes zero sense


dryduneden

>The conditions are different but world class players thrive is different conditions Problem is we aren't signing world class forwards >Timo werner was performing then we signed him and he hasn't been the same since then Already covered him with Lukaku and Ziyech. Needs more space than he'll ever get playing for us


DoubleOcorona

That's a very tunnel vision way of looking at it, every league present different challenges, timo and lukaku were considered world class at the point we bought them, our style of play didn't help improve them.


InLampsWeTrust

Harry Maguire looks competent at this level, that says it all mate.


KerimChelsea11

It's the style of play. He plays 20× better in a low block where he can just use that massive frame to block everything. He was decent for United before Ole started thinking it was time to suddenly become a team that plays a high line.


4dtakes

At least Maguire looked competent in the PL too at one point


DoubleOcorona

Let's be honest, harry isn't a good defender at best average but the way England plays covers all his flaws, it's not about him solely compared to united, the system helps bring the best out of him, at united with midfield of fred Scott most defenders would get killed. I honestly believe we don't help our attackers cause they go from world class to shit overnight at Chelsea


Chepstin

>Think it's time as Chelsea fans that we actually accept the fact that our attacking players aren't bad, They're absolutely terrible. Performing at a much lower standard of play like the world cup doesn't change that.


DoubleOcorona

Think of it this way, we don't buy bums at Chelsea, if anything we overpay because we don't want to buy unproven or lesser known players, I'm saying these players don't become bums overnight. It's been a patterns for years now, we got so much proven talent and they all can't seem to perform but somehow get it going at the national level. We really gotto look inward cause it makes no sense.


Chepstin

>Think of it this way, we don't buy bums at Chelsea Our transfer record over the last few years says otherwise. For example Pulisic was absolutely shit at Dortmund and couldn't get into their team, it's not like he was pulling up trees before coming to us. Ziyech and Havertz performed in weaker leagues but have struggled in the prem. It's not like we've signed a lot of proven top talent that has struggled, We've just spend a lot of money on fairly average players that haven't been able to perform at the highest level under multiple managers unfortunately.


DoubleOcorona

See if you think pulisic was shit at Dortmund that up for debate depending on how you want to look at it but we can all agree he was considered a top talent prior to his injury, and our transfer record hasn't been shit if we look at it on paper, timo was banging in goals for fun, havertz was considered a massive talent bayern wanted, sterling had over a hundred goals at city, hakim was a major player in the ajax team that had all of Europe in a choke hold, lukaku won the league with inter and scored a shit ton. Outta nowhere they're all bums now, that makes zero sense.


FastenedCarrot

I'm sure Pulisic was doing well before picking up an injury not long before we bought him.


FastenedCarrot

I am once again asking for Ziyech to be given half the chance our other attackers have been given.


TimothyN

Ziyech and Pulisic starting together with Kai as a 10 and a true 9 (Broja/Auba) is all I want.


FastenedCarrot

If we ever get something good it's always got a monkey's paw style caveat, so expect if we ever see that it will be with Sterling at WB again and a Ruben, Gallagher midfield or something.


Groundbreaking-Rub50

KDB's performance is an example of how even world class players who are at the peak of their careers struggle when the manager isn't good enough. In PL KDB does almost create 2- 3 chances per game, here against Morocco he has done fuck all except running his mouth with his expert commentary about Belgium team. What a game.


KingKoCFC

The system at Man City is perfect for him, it’s why he never really stands out for Belgium


Practical_Platypus_2

Yup, Man City is built around the guy.


datloud

its built around endlessly moving the ball (usually after 1 touch), using space, and getting the ball back when they turn it over. any player capable of doing that regularly and consistently will look like the system is 'built' around them. pep has been running the same system since Barcelona. kdb is just a piece that fits perfectly in that system.


Groundbreaking-Rub50

That's true, having watched that game it's surprising how poor even someone like him can be. It almost looked like KDB didn't give a shit.


Royalsushi45

Roberto Martinez should of been sacked before the last euros. Playing with 3 atb with two shit midfielders is never gonna be good


TheJobinslegend

Funny how we're used to that. Even more when Reece / Chilly are out. Belgium even has De Bruyne and that isn't enough.


KerimChelsea11

They are finished anyways, won't help too much


JinxLB

I know Ziyech has had some absolute stinkers for us, but seeing him ball out for Morocco makes me very happy. He deserves that.


KMan3110

Lakaka “We lost because Lautaro Martinez didn’t start”


KingKoCFC

Belgium are finished, they were incredibly lucky to beat Canada


TradeGortat

Shouldn‘t surprise anyone tbh. They were carried by Hazard lots of times, De Bruyne never stood out for them like he should have considering his qualities and Lukaku is as out of form as Hazard is


FastenedCarrot

Don't be so hard on Hazard, he's not at his best but he's better than Lukaku right now.


SliceThemApart

Incredible assist from Ziyech. Milan calling Boehly rn


Practical_Platypus_2

Hi, Mr Boehly, we have found £359 in our bank account and are willing to offer it, and a panini for ziyech.


kim_jong_was_ill

Warms my heart to see Courtois pick the ball out of his goal. 🐍


zizouz13

Habibi with the assist!!


TradeGortat

And what an assist it was So sad that he just is not interested in playing for us


zizouz13

He can’t be interested with 5 minutes a game. People want to keep mentioning Dinamo but last I checked he ain’t the reason why chelsea is this bad this season. Best for player and club to part ways


KMan3110

Hard to be motivated when you’re always in and out


Mourning-Woood

Martínez is a terrible coach, this Belgium squad should be getting out of the group stage with ease.


FastenedCarrot

Sabiri the most reviled person in Belgium.


shastmak4

Kevin de Bruyne - Maybe Jose Was Right - Compilation 4K UHD World Cup 2022


KMan3110

Kepa would never


zizouz13

Courtois doing courtois tings


Royalsushi45

If anyone misses watching Chelsea play just watch Belgium


SliceThemApart

More like watch England when Kane doesn't have a good game.


zizouz13

Nah they aren’t as bad as chelsea, if you want to see Chelsea watch Englands performance against USA


TradeGortat

Batshuayi is unbelievably shit. That guy was born offside


-SexSandwich-

Probably would still score more goals than our current forwards to be honest lol


TradeGortat

No, not at all


Chepstin

Bats played next to Pulisic at Dortmund for 6 months and looked levels above him. Scored more goals in half a season for Dortmund than Pulisic did any season in his career 😭 Terrible footballer but the man can get goals


shastmak4

Eden is finished. Can’t get past a player anymore at all. What a sad sight. I can’t stand it.


HarryDaz98

Just be glad we never had to see him like this in a Chelsea shirt.


Chepstin

Tbf we get the finished Hazard experience watching Pulisic and Ziyech


HarryDaz98

I think even nowadays, he’d do better than them 2 do for us. Also neither of them have done anything in a Chelsea shirt, so it doesn’t hurt as much seeing them underperform.


KerimChelsea11

Ziyech not playing at least as much as the rest of our attackers who are equally as shit most of the time is criminal. Every single ball he puts in is so dangerous.


SliceThemApart

We don't have anyone to finish his crosses anyway. So he just loses possession


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KerimChelsea11

Dude he does the same stuff at Chelsea. All of his crosses are very dangerous and his passing range is much better than the rest of our attackers.


dryduneden

Exactly the problem. He tries to do the same stuff in much less space and time and fails constantly


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zizouz13

All of them aren’t dangerous but against Belgium his passes have been pretty good


KerimChelsea11

He takes risks, not something anyone else does. Yes it was a bit of an overexaggeration by me, but he does it quite often. The number of assists he would have if we had a player on the far post, as there should be, would be a lot bigger than he has so far.


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"all his crosses" lol All his cameos have been atrocious this year. It will be better for him and us when he moves on. Talented guy but has never looked quite right in the Prem.


krystalizer01

You’re being just as hyperbolic as OP by saying all his cameos have been atrocious. You’re so dramatic


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Sadly, no.. I'm not.. [https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2022/11/8/23446079/chelsea-0-1-arsenal-player-ratings-some-credit-to-the-defense](https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2022/11/8/23446079/chelsea-0-1-arsenal-player-ratings-some-credit-to-the-defense) The guy has averaged a 4 across all appearances with his best being a 5.9 across fan ratings for all matches thus far. I think he's better than what he has offered us but yeah.. he has been god awful.


KerimChelsea11

>"all his crosses" lol ? He was our best player against City when he started and didn't really play much in ages. Yes he was atrocious against Dinamo, but so was everyone else.


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Why was that FK offside? No angle they showed seemed to confirm a Morocco player touched it.


KerimChelsea11

He blocked the keepers view.


Pinkpluswhite

ziyech is a fighter


TaiChiShrimp

Woooooowwww