Maybe we could get some new shows instead of constantly rebooting old shows? Especially shows that *just* ended. Reboots I always felt like were meant for shows that are really old and barely anyone remembers. That's at least how it used to be.
YES! Exactly. I'm all or remakes/reboots when it's something real old. She-ra did this, for example. It took a very old series and revamped it decades later!. But FOP is something that's been on air continuously over the past two or three decades.
With shows like TMNT and Scooby-doo, that do get new versions every few years, at least (most) of those are just building on comic storylines or building on the past shows ideas (like the refreshing differences between What's New Scooby Doo, A pup named Scooby Doo, and Scooby Doo and the 13 Ghosts; Or Rise of the TMNT versus 1987 TMNT)
I agree on TMNT and Scooby Doo. There are certain franchises where being continuously soft-rebooted is just part of what the franchise *is*. It's important to note that not many franchises do this or do them well. I dont think FoP is a good candidate for this type of formula considering just how long it ran for.
Fr even someone who work on the fairy odd parents animation agreed https://twitter.com/fountaincartoon/status/1638850925405011969?s=46&t=yi27Hx-dxXyJwIPUEOfYVA
That's the thing! FoP ran and ran and ran until it ran itself into the ground. It doesn't seem like a good candidate for a reboot due to this! If a franchise ran until the well dried up, will an immediate reboot "save the franchise?" I don't think so. It's best to let the beast die like it wants to.
Reboots *can* do well when created by people who care. Plus, this follows my previous statement about making reboots on old franchises that a lot of people don't even remember. Animaniacs aired from 1993 and ended in 1998. Duck Tales aired from 1987 to 1990. Fairly Odd Parents may have aired in 2001 but only ended in 2017. What also makes it different is that FoP ran until it crashed. It physically dried up its own well. I think creating a reboot at this point in time, or at all, seems like a poor financial decision. Only time will tell, though.
Idk if that's necessarily the fault of streaming services specifically, although they recently have been creating a lot of issues for themselves. I think it's more that companies know that nostalgia sells. It's *easier* to make and sell a show that technically already exists and has an avid fanbase. It's just a shame that we know they do it because it's easy and cheap. Not to make a good product or get people on the team who actually care about the material. It's just something to pump out for a quick buck.
It definately is. The vast majority of revivals and reboots nowadays happen because streaming services want to take advantage of IPs that are already in the popular sphere of discussion to advertise themselves. And there are many examples.
Peacock revived criminal minds only about a couple years after its finale. Disney+ basically did revivals of all their popular cartoons like phineas and ferb, the proud family, X men, etc. as well as many of their 2010s movies. Paramount is doing the same with nick properties. We live in a reality where Spongebob spin offs with the same comedic tone are airing alongside the main show.
And the worst part is, because they operate with the same pace youtube does were relevancy dies quickly, they do it with IPs that end extremely recently. Back in the pre streaming days revivals and reboots still happened, but it's usually from shows that ended years ago, either because the network wanted to try and capitalize on their popularity, or because fans of the original got in the industry and wanted to put their own spin on it (see Ducktales 2017, Thundercats 2011)
Nowadays it's just a race to keep people in a constant consumption rate with no end nor enough time to properly resonate with anything.
And streaming makes this kind of IP exploitation exponentially easier.
Don't get me wrong, it can lead to good things. For instance I think the Icarly revival is leagues better than the original and it isn't directed by a pedophile so it's easier to enjoy.
But for every success like that, come like 5 noisy cash grabs that compromise the dignity of great stories.
I’m honestly tired of Cartoon Remakes, just make new episodes to the old series, like what Phineas And Ferb did. I’m hoping other cartoons go that route, like Kim Possible, American Dragon Jake Long, Jackie Chan Adventures, Xoalin Showdown and many others
The show went on after channel chaser, and frankly it became worse than SpongeBob season rots. Like I don't mind Poof, the inclusion of Sparky and Cloe really showed how writers are losing a lot of steam. They also stop using older characters like AJ and Chester in the later seasons despite being important secondary characters. Also the later seasons had ignore some important rules like how Timmy's dad can see fairies and even be bullied by Vicky despite the main rule to the show is to never have the parents seeing fairies and a sadistic babysitter.
At least SpongeBob has better animation and some really imaginative plots to keep it slightly fresh. Fairy Odd before being cancelled just became vinegar as the series progressed.
Tbf some of the things you listed literally have the characters names as the title. If they didn't return it wouldn't really be Phineas and Ferb, Kim Possible, or American Dragon Jake Long. On the other hand the Fairly Odd Parents don't necessarily need Timmy. Honestly after how long Timmy was used on the show, I don't mind seeing a new kid as long as it's good. We already had years with him anyways.
Honestly I think it could be good if they actually stuck to what was established at the start of the original series. A Godchild has to be miserable to get their Fairy Godparents and not just for a few days but for a while. Have it be that Hazel is still relatively new in town but didn't just move in. Have her brother go to college right before she starts at her new school so she can't just go to him for comfort. Have her be bullied because of being short and have her parents be super busy with their studies, which is likely why they moved, so she has a babysitter that just doesn't care. This would be a great set up for Hazel to actually need Godparents and it would be similar, but not exactly the same, to why Timmy needed fairies in the first place. Also don't have one of Hazel's friends be the coolest kid in school as that just down plays Hazel struggling to be respected at school.
Also have Poof become her Fairy Godparent. Wanda and Cosmo where what Timmy needed because he needed some good adults in his life while with this story Hazel needs a big brother figure which Poof could provide. Hazel is his first actual Godchild so it would be a new experience for both of them. They could even have Poof call Wanda and Cosmo for advice every once in a while. If the rich kid is going to get a Fairy have it be a new character like Jorgan and the Tooth Fairy's kid or just a entirely new Fairy. This stuff definitely isn't going to happen but a girl can dream.
Thanks! I just read through all the pictures and like seriously what are they thinking with half these ideas especially the ASMR kid? Why is that necessary and is so important to be included in what I'm assuming is a pitch book/Bible? Just let the show rest or at the very least stay consistent with what has been established. Also is it gonna be super techy or just slightly better Dimmesdale since it's been 10,000 years but the characters still dress in like fashion you'd find when Timmy was alive? Barely anything makes sense.
I’m just glad we have it written that Timmy’s parents checked out. I don’t think I ever remember it being acknowledged growing up, it was just the underlying joke that his parents didn’t really care. “*how* *old* *are* *you* *again*”
Is there even an artist render of Peri, Dev, and Dale? I like the concept: a canon timeline with Timmy aging out of the “Fairy Program”, Hazel being a literal opposite to Timmy, a fairy family kinda torn because Cosmo and Wanda have to contend with their son helping the bad guy.
It just seems so … unnecessary. Like how fans reacted to anything after “Channel Chaser”.
The 10K years seems a bit much though.
If they want to reuse Cosmo and Wanda have the show take place somewhere between Timmy gorwing out of his fairies (roughly 16-18 years old IIRC from Channel Chasers) and his kids getting assigned Cosmo and Wanda (they look 10-12ish).
There's a rough 5-10 year gap Cosmo and Wanda could be working with Hazel before she doesn't need them and then Timmy's kids show up in need.
Everyone here laments the prevalence of reboots but never actually watches new IP when it’s released. Networks only care about what gets the most viewership, you vote with your eyeballs
>messing with history
are they going to destroy all evidence of the show existing before this incarnation? the old episodes are still there, go watch those. this is a weird take, like if they are going to make a show about sad kids getting a green and pink haired fairy that grants wishes but within a specified rule set, why not tie it into the show they own thats about sad kids getting a green and pink haired fairy that grants wishes but within a specified rule set?
they are creating a new character. this is literally a new character. also its not changing whats been made cuz whats been made already exist and therefore cannot be change.
I'm sure you understand what I'm stating. You just refuse to look at the way it truly is. You have your own perception, so I'll just agree to disagree with your statement
Another reboot??? Everywhere I go, a reboot’s always being announced. I loved Fairly OddParents back then (not counting its final season; hot take, I liked the seasons before that), but honestly, it should be put to rest. Not all reboots are bad, but at this point, I’m getting tired of them.
From what I'm reading, I actually really like this concept. I still don't really like the characterization that Timmy's wishes were PURELY for his own gain, but beyond that, I like the notion that with how different things are nowadays that it might affect the type of wishes a child makes. I like the idea of a more "character driven" show.
Considering he was descended from that Aldan Bitterroot witch guy I could see Crocker's ancestry plus his past involvement with magic essentially making him immortal.
Heck, the "Timmy's Secret Wish" special had him looking the exact same at 103, he might be *canonically* immortal at this point.
I sort of want Doug Dimmadome's empire to have taken over many cities just for their Dimmafication.
St. Dimmalouis, New Dimmayork, Dimmadome DC, Los Dimmsdale, etc.
Mostly in the last... how many seasons? Honestly the series would be otherwise dead, and sure, that might be acceptable, but I also don't necessarily mind them playing around with new ideas? Worst case scenario is it's bad and I won't watch it.
Still better than that live-action bullshit show.
BUT TBH just let the show DIE already. I'm tired of reboots and shows not being allowed to die (looking at you spongebob). Just make new shows! Or stop cancelling shows that have potential !!!
Eh, though it was arledy a dead franchise but Fairy Odd Parents was never the best show, the first few seasons were ok, the rest was just a gradual trainwrek, if this serie does a good character development like it says it would it could be a cute show, not a fan of the asmr kid and the concept art style.
please just say you're racist and move on. This is very thinly veiled in your post and all the comments that you're just mad that the cast isn't centered on a white boy.
Has this show come out yet? Any trailers? You can’t really claim it’s bad just based of some concept art. At least with Velma, we could tell it would be bad with that one cringy trailer
I definitely agree the Velma show is bad. There's a way to remake and diversify a show without doing it like Velma did, which was honestly the weirdest thing ever. It was like trying to be both far-left AND far-right at the same time. Compared to say, a show like She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, that actually diversified and branched off from the OG in a great way (tho tbf old She-ra was a really bland cartoon that was just a toy promotion).
I don't think this show will be bad, I think we should at least watch before judging (I thought Velma was gonna be good! And then I watched episode one and couldn't even finish it -- That could happen here, but I'd rather watch it and judge before assuming based on pre-production plans).
I mean it can't be any worse than Fairly Odder. I wish they wouldn't remake it at all tbh, but if they're going to do a remake it's cool to at least go opposite of Timmy. Like I don't want another Timmy, only Timmy can be Timmy, so if it's not Timmy, it feels like going as different from Timmy is the best scenario?
THO tbh just don't remake it period. Like let FOP die already, the quality of the show dropped off hard in later seasons and Fairly Odder is just weird and dumb (tho I will say that the chick playing Vicky is a great actress, but the whole plot was weird and cringe). Just make new shows, stop remaking things and beating a dead horse, yknow?
Internalized racism exists. Sincerely, a queer demiwoman who grew up with internalized homophobia and misogyny when I was a teenager, before I matured.
What exactly is the 'problems' with the characters? We both agree in the comment section that they should just leave the show alone and that remakes are overdone in general. But I just think remakes are overdone because I want to see new media and new content; I feel like it's not like they took Timmy and changed his character, they just made a new character, which is better than revamping Timmy entirely. (Plus because of the movies and fairly odder, it wouldn't make sense to be new episodes with Timmy because he grew up and had kids).
But a lot of the people in the comments, even if it's not you feeling this way, are clearly complaining because things are 'too woke' now, which is just thinly veiled bigotry. "Oh no, a female black character. Oh no, a nonbinary character." etc. So even if not your intention or thoughts, it's giving platform to bigots in the comments who are only mad about the diversity in the show, and not the fact there's a pointless remake/reboot/etc.
This doesn't feel like FOP 1) Hazel doesn't seem miserable enough to have fairy Godparents 2) They got rid of all the characters except for Cosmo, Wanda, Poof and Jorgen. 3) I know Cosmo and Wanda had other Godkids but I think fans will miss Timmy. It's like doing a Rugrats reboot and getting rid of Tommy. 4) The story arc sounds lame. When American cartoons with the exception of Kid Cosmic have story arcs they always take forever to get to the point. I wish more stuff happened faster. You need to wait 20 episodes for anything to happen. Also it just says that they are going to take over fairy world but doesn't explain how. It has happened dozens of times in the original.
I think your first point is the main problem I have with it: miserable. The whole point was that Timmy had a lousy life and he needed Cosmo and Wanda to help him through it. Other than being a bit short, Hazel's story seems relatively positive. She even has a supportive big brother, so I doubt Hazel will have an abusive babysitter to deal with. Idk if Crocker is still a teacher (I didn't read all the images), but I'm struggling to see conflict.
My thoughts
1. The original show went on for too long, bringing it back seems unnecessary
2. BUT, they are taking the show in a different direction. It's focused on a different main character, which means Timmy grew up (FINALLY HE'S BEEN 10 FOR LIKE 50 YEARS)
3. It's in a different style and it is serialized
4. It's in a different style
Why isn't there a consistent art style?
Also another reboot is ridiculous. FOP is nowhere near as popular as Spider-Man or Batman to warrant soo many reboots.
Nickelodeon just let your shows rest in peace they had their time do we miss them yes but bringing it back for the sake of nostalgia isn’t going to make us like it more
why this show it was already good every single movie and show they made of it where sh*t why not make a reboot of a show like chowder, amazing world of gumball, etc
No offence, but Hazel sounds like every other modern female protagonist. Way to perfect. Actually, from the description, she sounds very similar to Chloe.
I didn't even know they were making a new one. I think it looks cool! And if you font like it you can always go back and watch the original. No show will ever be liked by absolutely everyone, and that's fine.
Eh, they say her reason for fairy's is because her family moves and she's lost all her friends and connections and is starting over. That makes sense to suddenly get fairies. Honestly, some of the other kids in the OG show didn't deserve fairies and others really did (like the trailer park friend omg why didn't that poor guy have a fairy? yeah his dad loved him but everyone was mean to them and they lived in a really rundown place and struggled with food...)
The trailer park kid had a terrible life hence y Timmy gave his fairies to them…. compare Timmy life to her - Timmy was bullied, had Vicky, and parents was dumb
Rue? Who is literally from the district of agriculture which is coded to be the district of black slaves... People love to get up in arms over non-white characters. Almost as if they get mad they aren't being represented... Shucks, no one has ever had to deal with underrepresentation before.
Very true. It was wild to see people get upset over Rue when it came out. Like she's clearly coded as black in the books. She's described as having dark skin and dark eyes (as is Thresh). It felt like everyone clung to the 'reminds me of Prim' thing as 'she must be blond and blue-eyed like Prim' when it was clearly more about their size, stature, demeanor, personality, and some aspects like their facial features (big, innocent eyes, etc).
Τhey're making another one? Didn't a reboot flop like a year ago?
Anyway, as Mr Enter cleverly put it, being stuck making bad fairly odd parents knock offs for the rest of his career is the personal hell Butch Hardman deserves.
It looks okay. I think more diversity is fine as long as they don't make too big of a deal out of it. Having a non-binary main character will be pretty good for representation. But the thing I'm mostly worried about is that the characters don't seem to have enough flaws. All the words in these character descriptions seem too positive so the reboot looks boring.
Am I the only one who finds it more insulting than "inclusive" when they just change a character or a characters race in an already popular series just to add diversity? I'm all for including people of color and such but like... You really couldn't think of an original show to include them? You needed to lazily change the color of a character and say "look we are diverse now" when it would be so much better and so much loved if you created an original diverse character and added them or gave the their own show! Look at this, Velma, the little mermaid remake (like you couldnt make an original movie you need to remake a beloved story and just change everyone's race!?) I dunno. I'd like to restate I'm fine with all races and inclusion but it feels lazy and insulting to just change race.
i love that race is the first descriptor in each character.
id like to say, the "reboot" they had in sitcom style was awful, didnt watch. and this, too, seems like they miss the point of the original show entirely. timmy did not have "unlimited wishes." he had an overactive imagination and parents who were never around. cosmo and wanda are the parents he wanted. "doom and gloom up in his room." such a beautifully insightful cartoon that will never be replicated today because people only seem to latch onto the outer ideas of cartoons and constantly package them for kids. if your parents watched that show with you, then it was supposed to also make them think about their decisions as parents. it was a deep show that ran too long and lost its heart because of Nickelodeon wanting to be like Disney and just merchandise things and sell them instead of pushing the art.
edit: ive read a bit more of this post and i can see some things like what i said being part of the story. but if you want to do this, get new fairy godparents too. thats a big part of what i was saying. Cosmo and Wanda are TIMMYS IMAGINATION, they should not be part of Hazels imagination. i understand the cartoon built a world into the Fairies and made it as though they are real in the cartoon, but that was never the starting premise. But they know they cant get rid of cosmo and wanda because who would care? you know who? new kids! new experience! new idea! new show!
Because that will be something og fans would watch they want to pander to younger audiences … company’s would rather reboot old ip instead something good
They can still pander to younger audiences while doing that. I don't recall kids demanding all these changes. They can have Tammy and Tommy have Cosmo and Wanda. The twins can go on random adventures every week. Sometimes we can see older characters cameo and find out about their whereabouts. Example: Chloe could be mayor of Dimsdale, Trixie Tang could run her parents business, AJ becomes Steve Jobs, etc.
Honestly I don’t see anything wrong with this. Its good that they fixed the problems with the old fairly odd parents, mainly being that after a while all the characters just kind of lost their individuality and became the same loud, obnoxious, and quirky character similar to what happened to SpongeBob or more recently teen titans go. The only critique I could think of is that the new protagonist doesn’t seem doesn’t seem like she has a bad enough life to qualify for fairly odd parents since the only problems she has is being short and lonely.
honestly i just finished reading it and it doesn't sound that bad!!! I like that theyre taking the concept and doing something new with it! I just hope the writing team does the concept justice
Hey, I was the shortest in class and my name is Anthony so I can relate to this show. Won't care if they still have cosmo and wanda but they are already off the deep end cuz didn't they have 2 kids now ? Poof isn't an only child anymore please correct if not
Man honestly reading through the bible this looks like it could be pretty sweet, especially compared too the previous reboot. I imagine it'll skew younger but the new designs look cute and they def seem like they're putting an effort in to make Hazel different from Timmy without being a Chloe situation where she's too perfect. Plus having the cast be a bit more evenly balanced can lead to different feeling stories. The last paragraph does an honestly good job explaining why doing more is reasonable: it's a fun setting and there's a lot of you can play with.
I’m tell u why this is getting hate
The new mc is just a Chloe 2.0
They should have gotten her new fairies
Unesscery reboot of a show that was dragging out for years
Cosmo is more wiser and Wanda will be cautious with her wishes
the wishes will be boring
She don’t deserve the fairies when she isn’t even miserable kid
She’s maybe 🤔 miserable but ….. she befriends the popular kid
If u like this show it’s fine but stop throwing around the word racism or “ppl are hating 4 no reason” cuz it’s stupid 🤦🏾♂️
It’s clear as day that the inclusion of other races as major characters is just for political correctness instead of actually building the new world. All of these characters look like the creators just picked names, races, genders, and body styles out of a hat.
**weird nerds:** "race swapping is woke and political, they should make new and original characters"
Ok, creates new and original characters
**weird nerds:** "creating new and original characters is woke and political! "
???
Maybe we could get some new shows instead of constantly rebooting old shows? Especially shows that *just* ended. Reboots I always felt like were meant for shows that are really old and barely anyone remembers. That's at least how it used to be.
YES! Exactly. I'm all or remakes/reboots when it's something real old. She-ra did this, for example. It took a very old series and revamped it decades later!. But FOP is something that's been on air continuously over the past two or three decades. With shows like TMNT and Scooby-doo, that do get new versions every few years, at least (most) of those are just building on comic storylines or building on the past shows ideas (like the refreshing differences between What's New Scooby Doo, A pup named Scooby Doo, and Scooby Doo and the 13 Ghosts; Or Rise of the TMNT versus 1987 TMNT)
I agree on TMNT and Scooby Doo. There are certain franchises where being continuously soft-rebooted is just part of what the franchise *is*. It's important to note that not many franchises do this or do them well. I dont think FoP is a good candidate for this type of formula considering just how long it ran for.
Fr even someone who work on the fairy odd parents animation agreed https://twitter.com/fountaincartoon/status/1638850925405011969?s=46&t=yi27Hx-dxXyJwIPUEOfYVA
That's the thing! FoP ran and ran and ran until it ran itself into the ground. It doesn't seem like a good candidate for a reboot due to this! If a franchise ran until the well dried up, will an immediate reboot "save the franchise?" I don't think so. It's best to let the beast die like it wants to.
Fr let this shit die already
I mean, Animaniacs and Duck Tales did well as reboots
Reboots *can* do well when created by people who care. Plus, this follows my previous statement about making reboots on old franchises that a lot of people don't even remember. Animaniacs aired from 1993 and ended in 1998. Duck Tales aired from 1987 to 1990. Fairly Odd Parents may have aired in 2001 but only ended in 2017. What also makes it different is that FoP ran until it crashed. It physically dried up its own well. I think creating a reboot at this point in time, or at all, seems like a poor financial decision. Only time will tell, though.
That's the hell streaming services put as in. Nothing is allowed to just end anymore.
Idk if that's necessarily the fault of streaming services specifically, although they recently have been creating a lot of issues for themselves. I think it's more that companies know that nostalgia sells. It's *easier* to make and sell a show that technically already exists and has an avid fanbase. It's just a shame that we know they do it because it's easy and cheap. Not to make a good product or get people on the team who actually care about the material. It's just something to pump out for a quick buck.
It definately is. The vast majority of revivals and reboots nowadays happen because streaming services want to take advantage of IPs that are already in the popular sphere of discussion to advertise themselves. And there are many examples. Peacock revived criminal minds only about a couple years after its finale. Disney+ basically did revivals of all their popular cartoons like phineas and ferb, the proud family, X men, etc. as well as many of their 2010s movies. Paramount is doing the same with nick properties. We live in a reality where Spongebob spin offs with the same comedic tone are airing alongside the main show. And the worst part is, because they operate with the same pace youtube does were relevancy dies quickly, they do it with IPs that end extremely recently. Back in the pre streaming days revivals and reboots still happened, but it's usually from shows that ended years ago, either because the network wanted to try and capitalize on their popularity, or because fans of the original got in the industry and wanted to put their own spin on it (see Ducktales 2017, Thundercats 2011) Nowadays it's just a race to keep people in a constant consumption rate with no end nor enough time to properly resonate with anything. And streaming makes this kind of IP exploitation exponentially easier. Don't get me wrong, it can lead to good things. For instance I think the Icarly revival is leagues better than the original and it isn't directed by a pedophile so it's easier to enjoy. But for every success like that, come like 5 noisy cash grabs that compromise the dignity of great stories.
*Another* Fairly OddParents reboot? We already got Fairly Odder.
Yes
Also can I just say, I like that ur pfp is of Dokkan
Ugh that show is so bad it's genuinely unwatchable
I'm not finding anything about this on Google. Can anyone help with sources and stuff?
Apparently it was leaked on 4chan and was quickly removed due to copyright violations. But that’s not much to go off of
The fact that this came from 4chan, with the diversity of it should make it obvious that it's fake...
Pretty sure this is real actually. There's test footage and everything
I’m honestly tired of Cartoon Remakes, just make new episodes to the old series, like what Phineas And Ferb did. I’m hoping other cartoons go that route, like Kim Possible, American Dragon Jake Long, Jackie Chan Adventures, Xoalin Showdown and many others
Fr
They gotta leave this series alone I hope it won’t do the SpongeBob phase
The show went on after channel chaser, and frankly it became worse than SpongeBob season rots. Like I don't mind Poof, the inclusion of Sparky and Cloe really showed how writers are losing a lot of steam. They also stop using older characters like AJ and Chester in the later seasons despite being important secondary characters. Also the later seasons had ignore some important rules like how Timmy's dad can see fairies and even be bullied by Vicky despite the main rule to the show is to never have the parents seeing fairies and a sadistic babysitter. At least SpongeBob has better animation and some really imaginative plots to keep it slightly fresh. Fairy Odd before being cancelled just became vinegar as the series progressed.
It already did that this show went on for too long already
It has a live action reboot show spin off
Xiaolin Showdown already did. It was Xiaolin Chronicles and it was not great.
All I know is that Jack Spicer looks like he’s from that MLP teenager show
Tbf some of the things you listed literally have the characters names as the title. If they didn't return it wouldn't really be Phineas and Ferb, Kim Possible, or American Dragon Jake Long. On the other hand the Fairly Odd Parents don't necessarily need Timmy. Honestly after how long Timmy was used on the show, I don't mind seeing a new kid as long as it's good. We already had years with him anyways.
Ain't no way this is real. Legit reads like it's just bait for the "anti woke" crowd...
Especially since it was found on 4chan
Looks to be real though
There's test footage. Seems to be real
Honestly I think it could be good if they actually stuck to what was established at the start of the original series. A Godchild has to be miserable to get their Fairy Godparents and not just for a few days but for a while. Have it be that Hazel is still relatively new in town but didn't just move in. Have her brother go to college right before she starts at her new school so she can't just go to him for comfort. Have her be bullied because of being short and have her parents be super busy with their studies, which is likely why they moved, so she has a babysitter that just doesn't care. This would be a great set up for Hazel to actually need Godparents and it would be similar, but not exactly the same, to why Timmy needed fairies in the first place. Also don't have one of Hazel's friends be the coolest kid in school as that just down plays Hazel struggling to be respected at school. Also have Poof become her Fairy Godparent. Wanda and Cosmo where what Timmy needed because he needed some good adults in his life while with this story Hazel needs a big brother figure which Poof could provide. Hazel is his first actual Godchild so it would be a new experience for both of them. They could even have Poof call Wanda and Cosmo for advice every once in a while. If the rich kid is going to get a Fairy have it be a new character like Jorgan and the Tooth Fairy's kid or just a entirely new Fairy. This stuff definitely isn't going to happen but a girl can dream.
This sounds better
Thanks! I just read through all the pictures and like seriously what are they thinking with half these ideas especially the ASMR kid? Why is that necessary and is so important to be included in what I'm assuming is a pitch book/Bible? Just let the show rest or at the very least stay consistent with what has been established. Also is it gonna be super techy or just slightly better Dimmesdale since it's been 10,000 years but the characters still dress in like fashion you'd find when Timmy was alive? Barely anything makes sense.
Fr 🤦🏾♂️ I didn’t even realize that last bit
Nickelodeon will make a million spin-offs before allowing something original to exist
Fr
PLEASE LET THE SHOW DIE IN OBSCURITY ALREADY.
Fr
I’m just glad we have it written that Timmy’s parents checked out. I don’t think I ever remember it being acknowledged growing up, it was just the underlying joke that his parents didn’t really care. “*how* *old* *are* *you* *again*”
Is there even an artist render of Peri, Dev, and Dale? I like the concept: a canon timeline with Timmy aging out of the “Fairy Program”, Hazel being a literal opposite to Timmy, a fairy family kinda torn because Cosmo and Wanda have to contend with their son helping the bad guy. It just seems so … unnecessary. Like how fans reacted to anything after “Channel Chaser”.
The 10K years seems a bit much though. If they want to reuse Cosmo and Wanda have the show take place somewhere between Timmy gorwing out of his fairies (roughly 16-18 years old IIRC from Channel Chasers) and his kids getting assigned Cosmo and Wanda (they look 10-12ish). There's a rough 5-10 year gap Cosmo and Wanda could be working with Hazel before she doesn't need them and then Timmy's kids show up in need.
Everyone here laments the prevalence of reboots but never actually watches new IP when it’s released. Networks only care about what gets the most viewership, you vote with your eyeballs
We don’t need another one if Timmy isn’t in it.
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That's my childhood show. Why can't they create new shit instead of messing with history?
Money + ppl would watch something they are familiar with
Lol. Now suddenly capitalism is a bad thing, because it's producing something you don't like.
What’s are talking about 💀
>messing with history are they going to destroy all evidence of the show existing before this incarnation? the old episodes are still there, go watch those. this is a weird take, like if they are going to make a show about sad kids getting a green and pink haired fairy that grants wishes but within a specified rule set, why not tie it into the show they own thats about sad kids getting a green and pink haired fairy that grants wishes but within a specified rule set?
Why can't they create new characters. They're doing it with everything. Use new ideas don't go back and change what's already been made.
they are creating a new character. this is literally a new character. also its not changing whats been made cuz whats been made already exist and therefore cannot be change.
I'm sure you understand what I'm stating. You just refuse to look at the way it truly is. You have your own perception, so I'll just agree to disagree with your statement
I REFUSE to believe that this is real based on the art style i REFUSE u can't convince me
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I wish a new network would form with original concepts
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Another reboot??? Everywhere I go, a reboot’s always being announced. I loved Fairly OddParents back then (not counting its final season; hot take, I liked the seasons before that), but honestly, it should be put to rest. Not all reboots are bad, but at this point, I’m getting tired of them.
From what I'm reading, I actually really like this concept. I still don't really like the characterization that Timmy's wishes were PURELY for his own gain, but beyond that, I like the notion that with how different things are nowadays that it might affect the type of wishes a child makes. I like the idea of a more "character driven" show.
learn to crop images plz
lmao fr
As long as Butch Hartman isn’t involved I’m all for it tbh
Unfortunately no I rather he do the show
Yeah I kinda agree
They're making a Fairly odd parents reboot?
Yes unfortunately
Nah, I want the show to return. This is good news to me
Here’s the big question. Will Crocker appear
Probably not sense this is a time skip
Or if he do come back he will be old asf
Considering he was descended from that Aldan Bitterroot witch guy I could see Crocker's ancestry plus his past involvement with magic essentially making him immortal. Heck, the "Timmy's Secret Wish" special had him looking the exact same at 103, he might be *canonically* immortal at this point.
Obviously i didn't read the whole thing, but it *looks* fun. I'm mainly hooked on the name "Dimmadelphia"
I sort of want Doug Dimmadome's empire to have taken over many cities just for their Dimmafication. St. Dimmalouis, New Dimmayork, Dimmadome DC, Los Dimmsdale, etc.
Damn. Nickelodeon is getting desperate.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS TIMMY
Timmy hasn't been their kid in awhile -- Have you not seen that stupid ass live-action show they did? It's his kids who have the godparents...
Mostly in the last... how many seasons? Honestly the series would be otherwise dead, and sure, that might be acceptable, but I also don't necessarily mind them playing around with new ideas? Worst case scenario is it's bad and I won't watch it.
This is a time skip .. unfortunately
I hope he makes a one time cameo
Most likely a small cameo and remember scene he is adult he won’t remember Cosmo and Wanda
Plus the wishes will be more plain and boring
Fr she’s basically Chloe 3.0
Still better than that live-action bullshit show. BUT TBH just let the show DIE already. I'm tired of reboots and shows not being allowed to die (looking at you spongebob). Just make new shows! Or stop cancelling shows that have potential !!!
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Seriously, Harvey Beaks didn't deserved to be cancelled just to get replaced with more SpongeBob and The Loud House
Eh, though it was arledy a dead franchise but Fairy Odd Parents was never the best show, the first few seasons were ok, the rest was just a gradual trainwrek, if this serie does a good character development like it says it would it could be a cute show, not a fan of the asmr kid and the concept art style.
Hopfully its good if it aint welp what can you do? Please dont be as bad as Velma
It looks as bad as Velma for many reason
please just say you're racist and move on. This is very thinly veiled in your post and all the comments that you're just mad that the cast isn't centered on a white boy.
? I’m not racist 🤦🏾♂️ the Velma show is bad this show looks bad
Has this show come out yet? Any trailers? You can’t really claim it’s bad just based of some concept art. At least with Velma, we could tell it would be bad with that one cringy trailer
Reading terrible description made me not want to watch the show
Fair enough, that just means it’s not for you.
Guessing it’s either a troll or maybe just early concepts. But we all know it’s a reboot of the show so it can fall in the category of the W word.
I definitely agree the Velma show is bad. There's a way to remake and diversify a show without doing it like Velma did, which was honestly the weirdest thing ever. It was like trying to be both far-left AND far-right at the same time. Compared to say, a show like She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, that actually diversified and branched off from the OG in a great way (tho tbf old She-ra was a really bland cartoon that was just a toy promotion). I don't think this show will be bad, I think we should at least watch before judging (I thought Velma was gonna be good! And then I watched episode one and couldn't even finish it -- That could happen here, but I'd rather watch it and judge before assuming based on pre-production plans). I mean it can't be any worse than Fairly Odder. I wish they wouldn't remake it at all tbh, but if they're going to do a remake it's cool to at least go opposite of Timmy. Like I don't want another Timmy, only Timmy can be Timmy, so if it's not Timmy, it feels like going as different from Timmy is the best scenario? THO tbh just don't remake it period. Like let FOP die already, the quality of the show dropped off hard in later seasons and Fairly Odder is just weird and dumb (tho I will say that the chick playing Vicky is a great actress, but the whole plot was weird and cringe). Just make new shows, stop remaking things and beating a dead horse, yknow?
Accusing my black a$$ of being racist because the choice the studio makes stupid
Internalized racism exists. Sincerely, a queer demiwoman who grew up with internalized homophobia and misogyny when I was a teenager, before I matured. What exactly is the 'problems' with the characters? We both agree in the comment section that they should just leave the show alone and that remakes are overdone in general. But I just think remakes are overdone because I want to see new media and new content; I feel like it's not like they took Timmy and changed his character, they just made a new character, which is better than revamping Timmy entirely. (Plus because of the movies and fairly odder, it wouldn't make sense to be new episodes with Timmy because he grew up and had kids). But a lot of the people in the comments, even if it's not you feeling this way, are clearly complaining because things are 'too woke' now, which is just thinly veiled bigotry. "Oh no, a female black character. Oh no, a nonbinary character." etc. So even if not your intention or thoughts, it's giving platform to bigots in the comments who are only mad about the diversity in the show, and not the fact there's a pointless remake/reboot/etc.
The mc doesn’t need fairies - I find asmr to be cringe - Cosmo is just wiser ewww- and she won’t make goofy wish for herself
He dislikes Velma therefore he is a racist Got it
I think I prefer the spiteful Timmy over the bubbly Hazel
Fr she’s literally just Chloe 2.0
Don't care much about the new characters but what they do to Jorgen Von Strangle
Made him a 👴
"Ah dam our reboot kinda floped (I think?). What should we do n-" "AIGHT LETS TRY AGAIN"
Lol
This doesn't feel like FOP 1) Hazel doesn't seem miserable enough to have fairy Godparents 2) They got rid of all the characters except for Cosmo, Wanda, Poof and Jorgen. 3) I know Cosmo and Wanda had other Godkids but I think fans will miss Timmy. It's like doing a Rugrats reboot and getting rid of Tommy. 4) The story arc sounds lame. When American cartoons with the exception of Kid Cosmic have story arcs they always take forever to get to the point. I wish more stuff happened faster. You need to wait 20 episodes for anything to happen. Also it just says that they are going to take over fairy world but doesn't explain how. It has happened dozens of times in the original.
I think your first point is the main problem I have with it: miserable. The whole point was that Timmy had a lousy life and he needed Cosmo and Wanda to help him through it. Other than being a bit short, Hazel's story seems relatively positive. She even has a supportive big brother, so I doubt Hazel will have an abusive babysitter to deal with. Idk if Crocker is still a teacher (I didn't read all the images), but I'm struggling to see conflict.
This feels like Chloe was in charge of the reboot. LOL She would do this.
Just put the franchise down Nickelodeon
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A second reboot?!
Yes
This is getting out of hand
You think God stays in heaven because he's too afraid of what he's created?
👍🏾 yes
My thoughts 1. The original show went on for too long, bringing it back seems unnecessary 2. BUT, they are taking the show in a different direction. It's focused on a different main character, which means Timmy grew up (FINALLY HE'S BEEN 10 FOR LIKE 50 YEARS) 3. It's in a different style and it is serialized 4. It's in a different style
Garbage.
Why isn't there a consistent art style? Also another reboot is ridiculous. FOP is nowhere near as popular as Spider-Man or Batman to warrant soo many reboots.
“White, ageless”
Nickelodeon just let your shows rest in peace they had their time do we miss them yes but bringing it back for the sake of nostalgia isn’t going to make us like it more
Like the death note movie there are a lot of fairies why not have different ones?
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Reboot Inclusivity FAIL 💯
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why this show it was already good every single movie and show they made of it where sh*t why not make a reboot of a show like chowder, amazing world of gumball, etc
Just leave the show alone
I'm not one to judge a show before it comes out but I wish they used different fairies, Cosmo n Wanda are great but new fairies would have need nice
Fr it would make the character description better(referring to Cosmo being riser and Wanda being cautious on the wishes she makes)
No offence, but Hazel sounds like every other modern female protagonist. Way to perfect. Actually, from the description, she sounds very similar to Chloe.
She just Chloe 2.0
I didn't even know they were making a new one. I think it looks cool! And if you font like it you can always go back and watch the original. No show will ever be liked by absolutely everyone, and that's fine.
What about this information translates as "bad" to you?
She’s basically Chloe 2.0 she has 0 reason to get the fairies- her wishes will be boring
Eh, they say her reason for fairy's is because her family moves and she's lost all her friends and connections and is starting over. That makes sense to suddenly get fairies. Honestly, some of the other kids in the OG show didn't deserve fairies and others really did (like the trailer park friend omg why didn't that poor guy have a fairy? yeah his dad loved him but everyone was mean to them and they lived in a really rundown place and struggled with food...)
The trailer park kid had a terrible life hence y Timmy gave his fairies to them…. compare Timmy life to her - Timmy was bullied, had Vicky, and parents was dumb
I know but why didn't no fairies get assigned to him TT\_\_\_TT dude needed them and didn't get no help except from Timmy and Wanda and Cosmo.
Cheaster should have gotten fairies … but that would be too much work for the animators
i think it was because despite it all, chester was happy unlike timmy and remy buxaplenty
Y'know what, that makes a lot of sense. He did tend to keep his head up about everything no matter what.
I suspect it's like whatshername in the Hunger Games movie adaption.
Rue? Who is literally from the district of agriculture which is coded to be the district of black slaves... People love to get up in arms over non-white characters. Almost as if they get mad they aren't being represented... Shucks, no one has ever had to deal with underrepresentation before.
A softer version is "Hell hath no fury like a headcanon denied", but yeah that's what I was getting at.
Very true. It was wild to see people get upset over Rue when it came out. Like she's clearly coded as black in the books. She's described as having dark skin and dark eyes (as is Thresh). It felt like everyone clung to the 'reminds me of Prim' thing as 'she must be blond and blue-eyed like Prim' when it was clearly more about their size, stature, demeanor, personality, and some aspects like their facial features (big, innocent eyes, etc).
Not the biggest fan of the art style tbh but so happy there’s a non-binary character!!
same!
Τhey're making another one? Didn't a reboot flop like a year ago? Anyway, as Mr Enter cleverly put it, being stuck making bad fairly odd parents knock offs for the rest of his career is the personal hell Butch Hardman deserves.
😭😭😭😭I hate this so much
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It looks okay. I think more diversity is fine as long as they don't make too big of a deal out of it. Having a non-binary main character will be pretty good for representation. But the thing I'm mostly worried about is that the characters don't seem to have enough flaws. All the words in these character descriptions seem too positive so the reboot looks boring.
Am I the only one who finds it more insulting than "inclusive" when they just change a character or a characters race in an already popular series just to add diversity? I'm all for including people of color and such but like... You really couldn't think of an original show to include them? You needed to lazily change the color of a character and say "look we are diverse now" when it would be so much better and so much loved if you created an original diverse character and added them or gave the their own show! Look at this, Velma, the little mermaid remake (like you couldnt make an original movie you need to remake a beloved story and just change everyone's race!?) I dunno. I'd like to restate I'm fine with all races and inclusion but it feels lazy and insulting to just change race.
It’s not real a race chage sense this vid a different character but yeah I do agree
I was more talking In general but yeah you're right
Well, I agree
The animation scares me
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Not again
Why? Just why?
Money
i love that race is the first descriptor in each character. id like to say, the "reboot" they had in sitcom style was awful, didnt watch. and this, too, seems like they miss the point of the original show entirely. timmy did not have "unlimited wishes." he had an overactive imagination and parents who were never around. cosmo and wanda are the parents he wanted. "doom and gloom up in his room." such a beautifully insightful cartoon that will never be replicated today because people only seem to latch onto the outer ideas of cartoons and constantly package them for kids. if your parents watched that show with you, then it was supposed to also make them think about their decisions as parents. it was a deep show that ran too long and lost its heart because of Nickelodeon wanting to be like Disney and just merchandise things and sell them instead of pushing the art. edit: ive read a bit more of this post and i can see some things like what i said being part of the story. but if you want to do this, get new fairy godparents too. thats a big part of what i was saying. Cosmo and Wanda are TIMMYS IMAGINATION, they should not be part of Hazels imagination. i understand the cartoon built a world into the Fairies and made it as though they are real in the cartoon, but that was never the starting premise. But they know they cant get rid of cosmo and wanda because who would care? you know who? new kids! new experience! new idea! new show!
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I just realized this show is Velma. Ethnicity diverse cast, a bunch of unnecessary changes for no reason, and a story arc.
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All it's missing is over reliance on meta humor and race jokes.
It will have adlest one episode about race
I'm not against FOP addressing racism but yeah this looks bad. Nickelodeon is out of touch with their fans.
I’m mean an ep like Velma and will talk about race
I don't understand why they don't just make a sequel series in the Channel Chasers time line. Fans seem to like that episode.
Because that will be something og fans would watch they want to pander to younger audiences … company’s would rather reboot old ip instead something good
They can still pander to younger audiences while doing that. I don't recall kids demanding all these changes. They can have Tammy and Tommy have Cosmo and Wanda. The twins can go on random adventures every week. Sometimes we can see older characters cameo and find out about their whereabouts. Example: Chloe could be mayor of Dimsdale, Trixie Tang could run her parents business, AJ becomes Steve Jobs, etc.
That Makes sense
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Woke = I see people who don't look like the cishet white able-bodied people we've had on television for the past century
I’m sorry! I didn’t mean to be this harsh. You know I’m not crazy about modern medias and reboots showing their social agendas.
Did you know minorities exist in real life? They weren't just made up by the Liberal media, and they don't just exist to push an agenda. Grow up.
Sorry about that!
What’s the problem with this? Looks pretty good to me😊
Glad ur enjoying it it just looks soooo bad
Again, why?
Love Winn
Honestly I don’t see anything wrong with this. Its good that they fixed the problems with the old fairly odd parents, mainly being that after a while all the characters just kind of lost their individuality and became the same loud, obnoxious, and quirky character similar to what happened to SpongeBob or more recently teen titans go. The only critique I could think of is that the new protagonist doesn’t seem doesn’t seem like she has a bad enough life to qualify for fairly odd parents since the only problems she has is being short and lonely.
Mc feels like more of a Chloe 2.0
honestly i just finished reading it and it doesn't sound that bad!!! I like that theyre taking the concept and doing something new with it! I just hope the writing team does the concept justice
I genuinely think this show sounds amazing. Some serialization and actual character development? Sign me up.
Hey, I was the shortest in class and my name is Anthony so I can relate to this show. Won't care if they still have cosmo and wanda but they are already off the deep end cuz didn't they have 2 kids now ? Poof isn't an only child anymore please correct if not
This is time skip Timmy is an adult - poof has also grown up
I know a lot of people have already mentioned that this sho needs to die, but is just me or does that girl’s picture look like….REALLY racist?
Man honestly reading through the bible this looks like it could be pretty sweet, especially compared too the previous reboot. I imagine it'll skew younger but the new designs look cute and they def seem like they're putting an effort in to make Hazel different from Timmy without being a Chloe situation where she's too perfect. Plus having the cast be a bit more evenly balanced can lead to different feeling stories. The last paragraph does an honestly good job explaining why doing more is reasonable: it's a fun setting and there's a lot of you can play with.
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I’m tell u why this is getting hate The new mc is just a Chloe 2.0 They should have gotten her new fairies Unesscery reboot of a show that was dragging out for years Cosmo is more wiser and Wanda will be cautious with her wishes the wishes will be boring She don’t deserve the fairies when she isn’t even miserable kid She’s maybe 🤔 miserable but ….. she befriends the popular kid If u like this show it’s fine but stop throwing around the word racism or “ppl are hating 4 no reason” cuz it’s stupid 🤦🏾♂️
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Yeah just keep dick riding 🫣 this show is just bad 🤦🏾♂️🫣
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Yep definitely d riding - if I don’t like what im seeing here y tf would I like the show
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Get a life my bro
It’s clear as day that the inclusion of other races as major characters is just for political correctness instead of actually building the new world. All of these characters look like the creators just picked names, races, genders, and body styles out of a hat.
**weird nerds:** "race swapping is woke and political, they should make new and original characters" Ok, creates new and original characters **weird nerds:** "creating new and original characters is woke and political! " ???
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