propane (fuel) and isobutane (propellant) are in the MSR canister and both considered safe by the FDA in the amounts used. A well ventilated area (outside) is fine.
Edit: see next comment, not my error.
[Oh man, wait until you find out what Coleman fuel is made of!](https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/coleman-camp-fuel-naphtha-liquid-fuel-for-camping-stoves-lanterns-heaters-3-78-l-0760044p.html)
Here in the US there is a subtle distinction. Naptha sold here is often heavy naphtha and can be used in cooking stoves but is more often a solvent for painters and a general purpose cleanup solvent. It stinks a bit.
White gas is generally light naphtha, is more refined and smells different. It's additive-free low octane gasoline, basically (drip gas).
Naphtha here also can be used in Zippo lighters and vintage pocket warmers. Ronsonall lighter fluid is essentially the same stuff.
I think a chemist would be needed to chime in regarding the exact makeup (hydrocarbon strings, etc.), but napthas are mostly petroleum distillates (but not always). White gas is always a petroleum distillate or natural gas derivitive, to my knowledge.
Edit: typo & word choice
I mean, here we call it heavy naphtha and light naphtha, but everyone assumes when talking about naphtha is the context of camp stoves they mean light naphtha. I don't know anyone who has tried heavy naphtha instead of light naphtha in their stove.
It's like of like when you talk about putting gas in your car everyone assumes it's gasoline, based on the context, and not natural gas.
Just differences in terminology/semantics, I suppose.
I tried to track down some stove fuel in the UK many years ago for a bike tour...asked around at several shops for white gas. They looked at me like I was crazy. I tried white spirit, essence, additive-free petroleum, everything I could think of. No dice. (Didn't consider naptha or drip gas at the time).
I remember saying to my travel partner "didn't think Coleman fuel was so hard to come by". Shopkeeper overheard me: "why didn't you say so. Aisle 6."
It's Coleman fuel in the UK...
Sure. Why wouldn't it be.
I think most of the black soot on the stove is from the time between first lighting it and getting the preheat tube to temperature. Once everything is up to temp it should be burning efficiently if you are using the right jet for the fuel. I have been using the multi-fuel version of the Whisperlite since it was released in the early 90’s and have never tasted fuel or soot in my food. I only use Coleman white gas or the MSR fuel in mine. The other fuel options to me are for scenarios where I am out of fuel and desperate. I would never carry those fuels as my primary. That would be a smelly mess that I’m not interested in camping with.
Gasoline / Diesel is a last resort option for the Whisperlite. Most people choose to use White Gas as a primary liquid fuel on these stoves. It burns more clean.
Otherwise - no, the fumes from the fuel don't bother my food.
Also, when you prime the stove don't have a pot on the stove. The yellow flames are carbonizing flames. When the stove is hot enough, the flames will turn blue and will burn clean.
What fuel type are you using, and have you double checked you are using the right nozzle?
If not using the right nozzle,it won't burn completely.
Also adjust to make sure you are cooking over blue flame not yellow/orange, and only use the stove outdoors.
Go Google the show Sirius and add the word Denmark that's on YouTube right now
Danish Defense Documentaries released show #2 this week - the show shows the dog sled teams heating the entire tent with 3 MSR stoves 24/7 so what fumes?
Cleaner burning fuels are better to be around, as a cook, and they will be gentler on your stove but as long as you are cooking in a pot or pan your food will be fine.
Your question is totally reasonable. I'm sorry these people are ass holes.
People have been cooking on gasoline stoves since at least 1942 with no ill effects on the food. Like any open flame, carbon monoxide poisoning is an issue in a closed unventilated area. The *Whisperlite* is just a more refined and smaller version of Coleman's *G.I. Pocket Stove* developed during WWII for soldiers to cook hot food in the field.
I have the version which comes with gas canister connection too. I use that if possible. If no gas canisters are available, I use coleman fuel if possible. Only in last resort I use other liquid fuels, but in many parts of the world either gas canisters or coleman like fuels are available. Never had any issue with it, but indeed always use a pot or pan when using liquid fuel.
There seem to be two versions, of which I have the Universal. Which also takes isobutane canisters.
The stove: [https://www.msrgear.com/ie/products/stoves/whisperlite-universal/06632.html](https://www.msrgear.com/ie/products/stoves/whisperlite-universal/06632.html)
The canisters (although you have these from many different brands): [https://www.msrgear.com/ie/stoves/stove-accessories/msr-isopro-fuel/msr-isopro.html](https://www.msrgear.com/ie/stoves/stove-accessories/msr-isopro-fuel/msr-isopro.html)
While it may be possible to use gas/diesel in a Whisperlite, I’ve never done it. I suppose I would only do if if somehow forced into a situation where I needed hot food to survive and only had those fuels.
I use msr super fuel in mine (but there’s a number of camp fuel options that a virtually the same) and never had weird flavors. Of course, I mostly freezer bag cook, too.
Pretty limited sample size, though, as I only drag out the Whisperlite when temp or elevation make canister stoves a poorer choice.
Only the International and Universal versions of the above stove is set up to burn gasoline and diesel.
https://www.msrgear.com/stoves/liquid-fuel-stoves/whisperlite-international-stove/06633.html
https://www.msrgear.com/stoves/liquid-fuel-stoves/whisperlite-universal-stove/06630.html
Otherwise you should only use white gas (aka colman fuel). the standard version will likely not burn gas or diesel well and you will likely get a lot of soot on the bottom of your pan if you can keep the stove alight. Misusing the stove that way could result in food contamination.
If it is a concern then don't use a stove like this. It is only really called for when temps go below about 0F or for international use were specific fuel may be harder to get. You can (probably) use an inverted canister isobutane stove down to 0F.
That said, using fuels the stove is designed for, the evaporating vapors should combust fairly completely and the fumes being hot will rise and disperse rather than settle on the food. Unless the stove is malfunctioning of course. You can minimize the chance of contamination by using a pot lid.
I think it is much more likely to someone could come to harm using such a stove in a confined space and thus breathing the fumes than suffering harm for fuel landing on the food. ymmv
Mine makes better rocket sounds when I use white fuel.
What about the exhaust films?
propane (fuel) and isobutane (propellant) are in the MSR canister and both considered safe by the FDA in the amounts used. A well ventilated area (outside) is fine. Edit: see next comment, not my error.
That's a white gas stove, not a LPG stove. The fuel is Naptha and the propellent is compressed air.
I am always appreciative when my well intentioned dumbassery is rectified. Gracias.
It will run on Naptha, but I daresay most opt for white gas/Coleman fuel.
[Oh man, wait until you find out what Coleman fuel is made of!](https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/coleman-camp-fuel-naphtha-liquid-fuel-for-camping-stoves-lanterns-heaters-3-78-l-0760044p.html)
Here in the US there is a subtle distinction. Naptha sold here is often heavy naphtha and can be used in cooking stoves but is more often a solvent for painters and a general purpose cleanup solvent. It stinks a bit. White gas is generally light naphtha, is more refined and smells different. It's additive-free low octane gasoline, basically (drip gas). Naphtha here also can be used in Zippo lighters and vintage pocket warmers. Ronsonall lighter fluid is essentially the same stuff. I think a chemist would be needed to chime in regarding the exact makeup (hydrocarbon strings, etc.), but napthas are mostly petroleum distillates (but not always). White gas is always a petroleum distillate or natural gas derivitive, to my knowledge. Edit: typo & word choice
I mean, here we call it heavy naphtha and light naphtha, but everyone assumes when talking about naphtha is the context of camp stoves they mean light naphtha. I don't know anyone who has tried heavy naphtha instead of light naphtha in their stove. It's like of like when you talk about putting gas in your car everyone assumes it's gasoline, based on the context, and not natural gas.
Just differences in terminology/semantics, I suppose. I tried to track down some stove fuel in the UK many years ago for a bike tour...asked around at several shops for white gas. They looked at me like I was crazy. I tried white spirit, essence, additive-free petroleum, everything I could think of. No dice. (Didn't consider naptha or drip gas at the time). I remember saying to my travel partner "didn't think Coleman fuel was so hard to come by". Shopkeeper overheard me: "why didn't you say so. Aisle 6." It's Coleman fuel in the UK... Sure. Why wouldn't it be.
Another synonym is VM&P, for what it's worth. Varnish Maker's & Painter's spirit (as opposed to terps).
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I typically do a white gas marinade for steaks and chicken
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LPG is great for fish and shrimp!
LPP is great for simp!
Diesel for chicken you plebeian
Flambé!
I think most of the black soot on the stove is from the time between first lighting it and getting the preheat tube to temperature. Once everything is up to temp it should be burning efficiently if you are using the right jet for the fuel. I have been using the multi-fuel version of the Whisperlite since it was released in the early 90’s and have never tasted fuel or soot in my food. I only use Coleman white gas or the MSR fuel in mine. The other fuel options to me are for scenarios where I am out of fuel and desperate. I would never carry those fuels as my primary. That would be a smelly mess that I’m not interested in camping with.
Gasoline / Diesel is a last resort option for the Whisperlite. Most people choose to use White Gas as a primary liquid fuel on these stoves. It burns more clean. Otherwise - no, the fumes from the fuel don't bother my food.
Gasoline and water separate, so you can pour off any fuel as you cook and use it in side dish. great as salad dressing.
The pans are becoming quite black and the exhaust gases are quite smelly, so I would assume that some of it might be reaching the food as well….
That shouldn't be happening. Are ypu using the correct jet? And is the tank up to the correct pressure?
Sounds like you're using the wrong fuel. You need white gas.
Also, when you prime the stove don't have a pot on the stove. The yellow flames are carbonizing flames. When the stove is hot enough, the flames will turn blue and will burn clean.
As long as the flame is only touching the pan it’s no biggie, just has more carbon deposits on the pan, you’re fine
Been using an XGK for years, I find that everyday I feel a bit more energised, must be the fuel
Its best to use a pot or a pan when cooking with this style stove.
What fuel type are you using, and have you double checked you are using the right nozzle? If not using the right nozzle,it won't burn completely. Also adjust to make sure you are cooking over blue flame not yellow/orange, and only use the stove outdoors.
Gasoline A92 - yes, I have correct nozzle and produce blue flame.
Stop using B-grade gasoline. Use white gas or other pure gasoline.
Go Google the show Sirius and add the word Denmark that's on YouTube right now Danish Defense Documentaries released show #2 this week - the show shows the dog sled teams heating the entire tent with 3 MSR stoves 24/7 so what fumes?
Thank you, I guess that the lessons learned for me is to change the fuel to white gas and not to use gasoline A92 and diesel :).
Cleaner burning fuels are better to be around, as a cook, and they will be gentler on your stove but as long as you are cooking in a pot or pan your food will be fine. Your question is totally reasonable. I'm sorry these people are ass holes.
People have been cooking on gasoline stoves since at least 1942 with no ill effects on the food. Like any open flame, carbon monoxide poisoning is an issue in a closed unventilated area. The *Whisperlite* is just a more refined and smaller version of Coleman's *G.I. Pocket Stove* developed during WWII for soldiers to cook hot food in the field.
I have the version which comes with gas canister connection too. I use that if possible. If no gas canisters are available, I use coleman fuel if possible. Only in last resort I use other liquid fuels, but in many parts of the world either gas canisters or coleman like fuels are available. Never had any issue with it, but indeed always use a pot or pan when using liquid fuel.
May I ask you for a link for the gas canister? I am not sure that it is available at my place.
There seem to be two versions, of which I have the Universal. Which also takes isobutane canisters. The stove: [https://www.msrgear.com/ie/products/stoves/whisperlite-universal/06632.html](https://www.msrgear.com/ie/products/stoves/whisperlite-universal/06632.html) The canisters (although you have these from many different brands): [https://www.msrgear.com/ie/stoves/stove-accessories/msr-isopro-fuel/msr-isopro.html](https://www.msrgear.com/ie/stoves/stove-accessories/msr-isopro-fuel/msr-isopro.html)
While it may be possible to use gas/diesel in a Whisperlite, I’ve never done it. I suppose I would only do if if somehow forced into a situation where I needed hot food to survive and only had those fuels. I use msr super fuel in mine (but there’s a number of camp fuel options that a virtually the same) and never had weird flavors. Of course, I mostly freezer bag cook, too. Pretty limited sample size, though, as I only drag out the Whisperlite when temp or elevation make canister stoves a poorer choice.
I did it once, it was fine.
Nope. As long as you are using the correct jet and the tank is at the correct pressure, there should be little in the way of cross contamination.
What? Fumes? 🤷♂️
Yes, fumes… I am embarrassed of the autocorrect:/.
Ooof
Only the International and Universal versions of the above stove is set up to burn gasoline and diesel. https://www.msrgear.com/stoves/liquid-fuel-stoves/whisperlite-international-stove/06633.html https://www.msrgear.com/stoves/liquid-fuel-stoves/whisperlite-universal-stove/06630.html Otherwise you should only use white gas (aka colman fuel). the standard version will likely not burn gas or diesel well and you will likely get a lot of soot on the bottom of your pan if you can keep the stove alight. Misusing the stove that way could result in food contamination. If it is a concern then don't use a stove like this. It is only really called for when temps go below about 0F or for international use were specific fuel may be harder to get. You can (probably) use an inverted canister isobutane stove down to 0F. That said, using fuels the stove is designed for, the evaporating vapors should combust fairly completely and the fumes being hot will rise and disperse rather than settle on the food. Unless the stove is malfunctioning of course. You can minimize the chance of contamination by using a pot lid. I think it is much more likely to someone could come to harm using such a stove in a confined space and thus breathing the fumes than suffering harm for fuel landing on the food. ymmv
No
No, not at all. As long as you use white gas you're ok.
You can actually cook food if you slap it hard and fast enough.