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I am happy to see it’s got good legs, yes. But it makes me sad that it won’t reach the original’s number when it’s far better (and this is coming from someone who really liked the first)
Pretty good. +137% from yesterday is pretty much the same Friday jump as last weekend. Also down just 33% from last weekend, which is a solid hold.
Can probably hit $19M weekend from this (4.65/9/5.5). $20M still in reach (4.65/9.3/6)
explain to me how you would measure this "relevance" and effect on the box office? There is no numerical basis or reasoning for you to be doing this. The playoffs and superbowl happen every single year and it's nothing special. We make weekly predictions based off historical prescient correct? And the playoffs and superbowl happen every year as a common denominator so there is literally no reason to bring it up in box office discussion. So while yes, it does have an impact, it is irrelevent to box office discussion. You compare this movie to Avatar's, Force awakens, No way homes ect. drops and decide if this was a good drop or not and make ur predictions based on those movies weekend grosses. But all those movies had playoffs and superbowl at the same time as well so it cancels out? So you saying the drop wont be as good because of the playoffs makes no sense when we base that off of the other movies with same circumstances. Get it???
im just tryna explain box office to people sorry if you took it the wrong way. This is a more insightful discussion than 95% of the posts that just post polls here on this sub.
did u even read the common denominator point i made? Please explain how u plan to quantify how the playoffs will affect avatar opposed to how it affected no way home last year?
I’ll second this. I’ve watched it twice: first time in IMAX, second in the xplus 3d+ HFR. The difference was astounding. With IMAX, I felt integrated into the world, but on the other screen there were obvious lens shifts between certain scenes with different frame rates, which ultimately made the world feel like it was a video game at times.
I would say IMAX is the best medium to experience this film, bar none
I honestly didnt like hfr cause they kept switching the frame rate on different scenes and that bugged the shit out of me, id rather see it on a big screen than 3d
I almost wanted to argue with this, but then I remembered how emotional Puss in Boots got me and I realized...naw, both are amazing movies and both deserve all the money they can make.
Exactly. Avatar 2 is good and all, it deserves the money it makes… but puss in boots deserves more too. In my opinion, it’s far, FAR better than avatar. Which is really saying something because I quite enjoyed avatar
Yeah, I see you people up there. Downvoting me for saying one movie is better than another, sorry for sharing my opinion. Downvote me all you want. Puss in boots the last wish is the best movie of 2022.
I can respect liking puss in boots 2 more than Avatar, even though I don’t agree at all. But saying Puss in boots was the best movie of 2022? Lol it wasn’t even the best animated movie when GDT Pinocchio is right there… watch more movies buddy.
Nah man Pinocchio is great but there’s so many layers of storytelling and profound lessons in puss in boots. Anything from the value of a life, living up to the legend, learning to ask for help, the value of what you already have… I can go on happily if you wish.
And I’m not trying to say everyone has to agree with me, of course not, but I’m explaining a small part of why I consider it the best movie of the year. Not even beginning to factor in any sort of shrek nostalgia or living puss from other movies
No. There’s 3 memorable Easter eggs for shrek fans like things you’ll definitely notice, and nothing else really matters. The ONLY thing from previous movies you need to know is: the ‘Kitty Softpaws’ character is a love interest for Puss. Even that, the movie makes clear very quickly and tells you the stuff that’s informing the current plot. So really no, this could easily be your first movie ever in the Shrek universe :)
Hi it's me, the person you convinced to give Puss in Boots 2 a shot. I wouldn't go as far as best movie of the year, but it was awesome it would definitely be my pick for best animated feature.
Basically every single plot point in the climax lands perfectly - it's great.
Oh hey I’m glad to hear it! I know best movie of the year is a hot take many won’t agree with but in a lot of ways I find animation ultimately more interesting than live action whereas the majority of people actually discriminate against it from what I’ve seen. I guess humans feel more comfortable seeing other humans. But to me I’d rather see something more creative than just.. people … doing (usually) pretty normal stuff… drama and all. But that’s a tangent and a deep rabbit hole.
I’m glad you like it, and it genuinely makes my day knowing I played some small part in showing this amazing movie to someone and they liked it!
You don't even have to dig out r/movies posts. There were plenty of those around here on r/boxoffice before release and even after the opening weekend...
I actually messaged each one of them informing them that avatar is hitting 2B today. Some of them had their messaging option deactivated from before. But yeah..none of them replied. How deplorable!
>I actually messaged each one of them informing them that avatar is hitting 2B today. Some of them deactivated messaging option. But yeah..none of them replied. How deplorable!
Please don't do that. Your interaction may have been friendly but I've frequently seen this yield unnecessary flamewars and people feeling they're being dogpiled when multiple people do that.
Jesus that's so petty. Deplorable? Because they don't feel like arguing about box office predictions with an aggressive stranger on the internet? This whole thread is a shit show.
Glad you said it! Calling out people and harassing them because they don’t like Avatar and didn’t think it would bring in money is just shitty. Who tf cares? They’re just being sore winners.
The first one replied and said this..
"For real though avatar sucks bad AND guess what. Only reason it grosses is some much is because 3D is mandatory and inflates the price. But dont let me stop you from enjoying your blue cock fest"
People just spout out the Dances with wolves/Ferngully in space but I bet they haven’t seen either movie nor can they name a single character from either movie. And it amazes me how people can be so stuck in their own echo chamber that they tjought that people didn’t want to see the sequel to the highest grossing movie of all time
Hahaha, that's awesome. When will they learn reddit isn't real life? Just because Redditors circlejerk themselves into believing a movie is going to flop or has no fans, doesn't mean it's actually true, as evidently shown by Avatar's success.
funny enough, i wanted to see it in 3d and the Dolby theater was having troubles near us so it was shown in 2d instead.
I'm going back to see in 3d, but the story held its own without the gimmic of 3d, I'm excited to see the details we missed as we catch it again the "intended" way.
Yes all of these people were unapologetic assholes shitting on everyone who wanted to see this film.
Ironically, I don't think I'm going to forget ANY of the current characters now lol. The second movie did a great job introducing the Sully family.
Most of the non-monetary statements can be true independent of the economic performance of the film.
Unless I'm mistaken, it's roughly sitting #58th in US Domestic ticket inflation adjusted all-time, passing Return of the King, hovering amongst several Star Wars films, a dozen Disney animations, Pirates, Finding Nimo, Batman, Blazing Saddles......
[Even non-inflation adjusted numbers has it $200 million short of Avatar 2009].
Is there anyone in this thread that would argue that Avatar has the cultural impact of any of those franchises? Are there merchandise? Children's toys? Clothing? Themed birthday parties and weddings? Spinoff shows? Video games? Conventions? Cosplays? Fanfic? Book series? Memes? Active subreddits?
Avatar uniquely exists as this nebulous massive economic success that no one seems to care about or talk about. Like everyone knows Avatar is out there, but no one could tell you the main characters name is Jake Sully ( I think, feels like I need to Google it).
If it wasn't for r/boxoffice posting about Avatars numbers daily, I'd have forgotten this movie was in theaters. It's a cultural ghost. Maybe that'll change.
The biggest cultural wave that Way of the Water made was when a group of POC were pissed and called the blue aliens Cultural Appropriation. *Even the controversy was flat.*
> Children's toys?
Yep.
> Clothing?
Yep.
> Video games?
[Yep.](https://www.ubisoft.com/en-ca/game/avatar-frontiers-of-pandora)
> Cosplays?
[Yep.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/910/840/d59.jpg)
> Book series?
[Yep.](https://james-camerons-avatar.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Avatar_Comics)
> Memes?
Check the /r/Avatar subreddit.
> Active subreddits
/r/Avatar has 70k members and growing.
Yeah Avatar has no cultural impact. Well, except for an entire theme park area at [Disney World](https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/destinations/animal-kingdom/pandora-world-of-avatar/), [toys](https://mcfarlane.com/toys/brands/avatar-movie/), [board games](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Monopoly-Avatar-Edition-Board-Game-for-2-6-Players-Family-Games-for-Ages-8-and-Up/1018062606?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222228000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9010259&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=1018062606&veh=sem&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIq6j-6pN0pKnpx8HJXMFZF8X&gclid=Cj0KCQiAt66eBhCnARIsAKf3ZNHVmi62aQU6ryGNFCvPDyJ2XZG0EyVstJFYYtZme87Ila8KwxktqCoaAuHUEALw_wcB), [video games](https://www.avatar.com/games), and a [growing subreddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Avatar/). Get off the echo chamber lmao.
I mean granted this isn't that much compared to most big franchises I think the real test in it's fandom will be how well non-Cameron Avatar products fare.
Avatar 1 created a global trend of 3D movies (whose failure to use the format functionally killed the golden goose after a few years) and nearly won best picture.
> Conventions? Cosplays? Fanfic
Transformers has conventions? Fanfic? Does Jurassic Park? I think Cameron sees "fandom" potential in Pandora but he both wasn't pushing it prior to Avatar 2's release and the general audience doesn't see it in that way.
> Video games
2009 was a few years after straight video game adaptations of films basically died off and it took a while before they sort of revived.
New idea for the sub: ban bets.
You make a box office prediction (such as X dollar by date Y) if you lose you get banned for X days. If you win you get some kind of points or flair or something
Should be over/under the 6th weekend of Frozen ($19.6M). That would make either the fourth or fifth biggest 6th weekend ever after Avatar, Top Gun Maverick, and Titanic
Up **137.3%** from Thursday compared to last week's 136.8%, and down **34.0%** week-on-week from Friday to Friday.
Probably around **$20.5-$21m** weekend off the back of this as long as Saturday is as strong as the Saturdays have been — possibly even **$21-$21.5m**. Higher Saturday bumps tend to get easier as the Friday gross gets smaller, so if Avatar 2's Friday-to-Saturday bump is as good as last week's, I'd be expecting a circa-110% Saturday bump or more this week compared to last week's 99.5%.
With this estimated $4.65m Friday, Avatar 2 is running at:
* **51.5%** of Avatar's $9.03m;
* **64.7%** of Top Gun: Maverick's $7.19m; and
* **133.2%** of No Way Home's $3.49m.
Saw it today in 4dx.
Probably the most fun I've ever had in a cinema ever. First time experiencing 4dx and it was so much fun.
The film itself was absolutely brilliant too. Great characters and fantastic action.
I didn't care much about avatar when it came out. I rewatched it last week to catch up and now after seeing 2 I'm all aboard the avatar train. Bring on 3, 4 and 5.
I saw it in IMAX first and 4dx last night for the second time. The 4dx was cool but after awhile the seat moving got a little much after 3 hours lol. This is one of those movies that needs to be seen in those premium formats if you can, just a great experience that can't be replicated at home.
I've seen it 12 times. Would like to add to the total, but this movie now lulls me to sleep like a sweet lullaby, so I struggle not to pass out now. know the movie by heart, My brother moved in with me and has 2 year old and new born baby and I don't like being home. A-List is great for that
That's 133.26% of NWH which would be the weakest daily performance against it since the holiday period ended. (New Year's Eve specifically when it did 78.11% of NWHs 3rd Saturday due to calendar configuration.) The target now rises slightly to 143.84% to beat TGM. Friday seems to be the weakest day relatively for A2, last week it only managed 135.98% of NWH and the weekend before that 137.54%, actuals could bump it up a little higher though to make it more in line with those numbers. I'd expect a 150%+ Saturday ($9.77m) leading into a $20m weekend but if it can equal last weekend's overperformance of 161.73% that would net it $10.54m and pave the way for a $7m Sunday assuming the same Sat-Sun drop as its 4th weekend which gives $22.2m on the high end.
TL;DR: it's still on track for $20-$22m via the NWH comp.
Welp, regarding weekends trends, FriYAY drop seems to show that now Avatar 2 will be having NWH-LIKE drops in the weekends. If Saturday gross confirms this trend, we can discard that TWOW will be having Maverick-like weekend drops henceforward.
However,
600M still on reach.
700M will be a very slow grind, Maverick alas.
Nonetheless, solid performance for a Friday.
We have to wait for Saturday grosses in order to determine if this trend continues and this weekend gross goes higher/lower.
As a lot of fellow Redditors have already said: this weekend gross seems like: 15(Floor) -22M(ceiling).
We have to wait Saturday grosses.
But as a matter of fact, 600M were predicted to be crossed by TWOW as early as yesterday and as late as next Tuesday.
Again, we have to wait for today's gross.
But, TWOW reaching 600M sooner or later is _Inevitable_
> get that, but it pops up on r/all.
Ok, but that's a problem you have with reddit's algorithm. Going to the subreddit to complain just lower's everyone's quality of life.
> For months I read about them making billions, what is another couple million?
Because it hasn't been out for months? Pre-release
estimates/debates about how it will do/post-release tracking.
A lot of it is also "using new data to predict final endpoint (and debate what that means). e.g. it's less that a film makes 4.65M or 4.8M on Friday than if people think that number implies that it will make 625M Domestic final gross or a 700M final one.
There's also the aspect of using box office numbers as a way to attempt to test how genuinely popular stuff is.
No one cares? 🤣 How intellectually deficient are you to not realize that this is a boxoffice sub where community members do care for a movie about to hit 2B. Only 5 other movies have done that. It's an unicorn club mate.
You're not even subscribed and you're taking the piss out of other people who enjoy reading this kind of stuff? Just ignore the sub. It's not that hard
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And it is still top daily performance. It lost only one time to M3GAN yet during initial run.
M3gan is a shockingly entertaining movie
Towards the end it is.
I liked it
Too each their own. I think I just don't like "thrillers" it was slow. Nice message tho.
Even that wasn't a real loss as it was up against M3GAN's Preview Thursday + True Friday.
Shocking that outside M3GAN’s opening day, Avatar 2 will likely be the top domestic grosser for the whole month of January.
Shocking?!
It’s a fucking crime puss in boots isn’t demolishing the everything, it’s an outstanding movie
It’s having pretty good legs at least. It won’t reach the original’s $555 million but it’s at least doing well. Deserves to do much better though.
I am happy to see it’s got good legs, yes. But it makes me sad that it won’t reach the original’s number when it’s far better (and this is coming from someone who really liked the first)
100% agree. Loved the first one but out of the two, the second one definitely deserves to be the higher grosser.
That film is catnip for VOD, which is where I'll watch it.
It’s already there.
For sure and it’s already there, but it’s AMAZING in theaters trust me
Always wonder the age of people who say stuff like this is an "outstanding movie"
…. Ok? Is the word outstanding something only the youths say? I don’t see how saying something is very good is a particularly dated statement.
It never even actually lost, the one time it did it included thurs previews and Friday together, if it was just Friday it would’ve lost
Pretty good. +137% from yesterday is pretty much the same Friday jump as last weekend. Also down just 33% from last weekend, which is a solid hold. Can probably hit $19M weekend from this (4.65/9/5.5). $20M still in reach (4.65/9.3/6)
SAT jump might be a bit softer because of NFL playoffs today
Possibly, but the NFL games didn't seem to make any real difference last week — we'll see what happens.
The Sunday drop won’t be that strong because of the NFL Playoffs and it’s a non-holiday Sunday as well.
stop mentioning NFL PLAYOFfS it is not relevant to tracking box office since it happens every year
But isn’t it relevant to tracking the weekly’s? They don’t happen every week. Though obviously they did happen last week
It does affect the box office in January. Just like the Super Bowl hurts the box office when it comes up.
But is it that relevant for this movie demographic? I assume it's going to hit harder for Otto than TWOW.
It’ll hurt Way of Water more since it skews towards young males. Otto skews female and older.
This movie’s demographic is all ages and genders so yes.
explain to me how you would measure this "relevance" and effect on the box office? There is no numerical basis or reasoning for you to be doing this. The playoffs and superbowl happen every single year and it's nothing special. We make weekly predictions based off historical prescient correct? And the playoffs and superbowl happen every year as a common denominator so there is literally no reason to bring it up in box office discussion. So while yes, it does have an impact, it is irrelevent to box office discussion. You compare this movie to Avatar's, Force awakens, No way homes ect. drops and decide if this was a good drop or not and make ur predictions based on those movies weekend grosses. But all those movies had playoffs and superbowl at the same time as well so it cancels out? So you saying the drop wont be as good because of the playoffs makes no sense when we base that off of the other movies with same circumstances. Get it???
You ok man? I think you might be taking this a bit too seriously
im just tryna explain box office to people sorry if you took it the wrong way. This is a more insightful discussion than 95% of the posts that just post polls here on this sub.
Yeah, nothing that happens every year impacts the box office… 🤡
did u even read the common denominator point i made? Please explain how u plan to quantify how the playoffs will affect avatar opposed to how it affected no way home last year?
Lots of things happen every year and can play a part in box office returns! Holidays, sporting events, school breaks, elections, etc.
I think I’ll take the wife to see it for the first time tonight. Add to those numbers lol
See it in imax 3d only way man
I’ll second this. I’ve watched it twice: first time in IMAX, second in the xplus 3d+ HFR. The difference was astounding. With IMAX, I felt integrated into the world, but on the other screen there were obvious lens shifts between certain scenes with different frame rates, which ultimately made the world feel like it was a video game at times. I would say IMAX is the best medium to experience this film, bar none
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I honestly didnt like hfr cause they kept switching the frame rate on different scenes and that bugged the shit out of me, id rather see it on a big screen than 3d
The Cinemark near me is cleaner and better deal than my local AMC. Does anyone know if there's a substantial difference between Cinemark XD and IMAX?
If you can only have one go for puss in boots instead
I almost wanted to argue with this, but then I remembered how emotional Puss in Boots got me and I realized...naw, both are amazing movies and both deserve all the money they can make.
Exactly. Avatar 2 is good and all, it deserves the money it makes… but puss in boots deserves more too. In my opinion, it’s far, FAR better than avatar. Which is really saying something because I quite enjoyed avatar Yeah, I see you people up there. Downvoting me for saying one movie is better than another, sorry for sharing my opinion. Downvote me all you want. Puss in boots the last wish is the best movie of 2022.
I can respect liking puss in boots 2 more than Avatar, even though I don’t agree at all. But saying Puss in boots was the best movie of 2022? Lol it wasn’t even the best animated movie when GDT Pinocchio is right there… watch more movies buddy.
Nah man Pinocchio is great but there’s so many layers of storytelling and profound lessons in puss in boots. Anything from the value of a life, living up to the legend, learning to ask for help, the value of what you already have… I can go on happily if you wish. And I’m not trying to say everyone has to agree with me, of course not, but I’m explaining a small part of why I consider it the best movie of the year. Not even beginning to factor in any sort of shrek nostalgia or living puss from other movies
Serious question- do I need to have seen Puss in Boots 1 to see the new one?
No. There’s 3 memorable Easter eggs for shrek fans like things you’ll definitely notice, and nothing else really matters. The ONLY thing from previous movies you need to know is: the ‘Kitty Softpaws’ character is a love interest for Puss. Even that, the movie makes clear very quickly and tells you the stuff that’s informing the current plot. So really no, this could easily be your first movie ever in the Shrek universe :)
Hi it's me, the person you convinced to give Puss in Boots 2 a shot. I wouldn't go as far as best movie of the year, but it was awesome it would definitely be my pick for best animated feature. Basically every single plot point in the climax lands perfectly - it's great.
Oh hey I’m glad to hear it! I know best movie of the year is a hot take many won’t agree with but in a lot of ways I find animation ultimately more interesting than live action whereas the majority of people actually discriminate against it from what I’ve seen. I guess humans feel more comfortable seeing other humans. But to me I’d rather see something more creative than just.. people … doing (usually) pretty normal stuff… drama and all. But that’s a tangent and a deep rabbit hole. I’m glad you like it, and it genuinely makes my day knowing I played some small part in showing this amazing movie to someone and they liked it!
Thanks! Got tickets lined up for Tuesday evening, I will report back.
Gotta disagree, PIB2 was awesome but avatar 2 as a theater experience can’t really be matched.
Anyone remember the people on here swearing that The Way of Water would be on Disney+ within 6 weeks? 🤣
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You don't even have to dig out r/movies posts. There were plenty of those around here on r/boxoffice before release and even after the opening weekend...
Let's not summon users just to dunk on them. Don't need to do that to establish the point.
I actually messaged each one of them informing them that avatar is hitting 2B today. Some of them had their messaging option deactivated from before. But yeah..none of them replied. How deplorable!
>I actually messaged each one of them informing them that avatar is hitting 2B today. Some of them deactivated messaging option. But yeah..none of them replied. How deplorable! Please don't do that. Your interaction may have been friendly but I've frequently seen this yield unnecessary flamewars and people feeling they're being dogpiled when multiple people do that.
Got it.
I hope I never get this addicted to reddit
Bro lived rent free in his head for a whole month lmao and is proud to announce that shit. These kids aren't real bro.
Jesus that's so petty. Deplorable? Because they don't feel like arguing about box office predictions with an aggressive stranger on the internet? This whole thread is a shit show.
Glad you said it! Calling out people and harassing them because they don’t like Avatar and didn’t think it would bring in money is just shitty. Who tf cares? They’re just being sore winners.
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You sound like a prick
How surprising that you being disrespecrful didn't result in correspondance. Such passive aggressiveness warrants meaningful conversation.
Was just a banter. No aggressiveness. Don't get ahead of yourself..🤣
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The first one replied and said this.. "For real though avatar sucks bad AND guess what. Only reason it grosses is some much is because 3D is mandatory and inflates the price. But dont let me stop you from enjoying your blue cock fest"
That's big mad.
Bro, you're my hero, I could never thought of that, ha ha. Great trolling.
Cringe, it's just a movie
People just spout out the Dances with wolves/Ferngully in space but I bet they haven’t seen either movie nor can they name a single character from either movie. And it amazes me how people can be so stuck in their own echo chamber that they tjought that people didn’t want to see the sequel to the highest grossing movie of all time
“Dancing With Wolves” lmao. Really shows that the people who spit out this awful discourse haven’t even seen the films they’re comparing Avatar to.
That not even his own joke, it’s literally just the premise of a South Park episode called Dances with Smurfs
We did not KNOW that it was possible to get a sequel! James C was doing all along for the ppl!
Hahaha, that's awesome. When will they learn reddit isn't real life? Just because Redditors circlejerk themselves into believing a movie is going to flop or has no fans, doesn't mean it's actually true, as evidently shown by Avatar's success.
That last comment is one I’ve seen the most. Never understood it. Like Cameron isn’t going to amaze with CGI and 3D again?
funny enough, i wanted to see it in 3d and the Dolby theater was having troubles near us so it was shown in 2d instead. I'm going back to see in 3d, but the story held its own without the gimmic of 3d, I'm excited to see the details we missed as we catch it again the "intended" way.
The movie is great on its own, but the experiential value with the 3D is just incredible.
Yes all of these people were unapologetic assholes shitting on everyone who wanted to see this film. Ironically, I don't think I'm going to forget ANY of the current characters now lol. The second movie did a great job introducing the Sully family.
God the amount of stupid comments in that thread. Aged like fine milk lol
How do I nominate all of this comments for 2022 awards?
Most of the non-monetary statements can be true independent of the economic performance of the film. Unless I'm mistaken, it's roughly sitting #58th in US Domestic ticket inflation adjusted all-time, passing Return of the King, hovering amongst several Star Wars films, a dozen Disney animations, Pirates, Finding Nimo, Batman, Blazing Saddles...... [Even non-inflation adjusted numbers has it $200 million short of Avatar 2009]. Is there anyone in this thread that would argue that Avatar has the cultural impact of any of those franchises? Are there merchandise? Children's toys? Clothing? Themed birthday parties and weddings? Spinoff shows? Video games? Conventions? Cosplays? Fanfic? Book series? Memes? Active subreddits? Avatar uniquely exists as this nebulous massive economic success that no one seems to care about or talk about. Like everyone knows Avatar is out there, but no one could tell you the main characters name is Jake Sully ( I think, feels like I need to Google it). If it wasn't for r/boxoffice posting about Avatars numbers daily, I'd have forgotten this movie was in theaters. It's a cultural ghost. Maybe that'll change. The biggest cultural wave that Way of the Water made was when a group of POC were pissed and called the blue aliens Cultural Appropriation. *Even the controversy was flat.*
> Children's toys? Yep. > Clothing? Yep. > Video games? [Yep.](https://www.ubisoft.com/en-ca/game/avatar-frontiers-of-pandora) > Cosplays? [Yep.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/910/840/d59.jpg) > Book series? [Yep.](https://james-camerons-avatar.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Avatar_Comics) > Memes? Check the /r/Avatar subreddit. > Active subreddits /r/Avatar has 70k members and growing.
Avatar shitposting is also upon us: /r/OkBuddySkxawng
Yeah Avatar has no cultural impact. Well, except for an entire theme park area at [Disney World](https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/destinations/animal-kingdom/pandora-world-of-avatar/), [toys](https://mcfarlane.com/toys/brands/avatar-movie/), [board games](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Monopoly-Avatar-Edition-Board-Game-for-2-6-Players-Family-Games-for-Ages-8-and-Up/1018062606?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222228000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9010259&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=1018062606&veh=sem&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIq6j-6pN0pKnpx8HJXMFZF8X&gclid=Cj0KCQiAt66eBhCnARIsAKf3ZNHVmi62aQU6ryGNFCvPDyJ2XZG0EyVstJFYYtZme87Ila8KwxktqCoaAuHUEALw_wcB), [video games](https://www.avatar.com/games), and a [growing subreddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Avatar/). Get off the echo chamber lmao.
I mean granted this isn't that much compared to most big franchises I think the real test in it's fandom will be how well non-Cameron Avatar products fare.
Avatar 1 created a global trend of 3D movies (whose failure to use the format functionally killed the golden goose after a few years) and nearly won best picture. > Conventions? Cosplays? Fanfic Transformers has conventions? Fanfic? Does Jurassic Park? I think Cameron sees "fandom" potential in Pandora but he both wasn't pushing it prior to Avatar 2's release and the general audience doesn't see it in that way. > Video games 2009 was a few years after straight video game adaptations of films basically died off and it took a while before they sort of revived.
They don't know shite
I remember a comment saying $1B was not possible worldwide just based off that Thursday preview figure......
New idea for the sub: ban bets. You make a box office prediction (such as X dollar by date Y) if you lose you get banned for X days. If you win you get some kind of points or flair or something
Even Black Panther isn’t on D+ yet
If Bob Paycheck was still around, it could have happened.
Should be over/under the 6th weekend of Frozen ($19.6M). That would make either the fourth or fifth biggest 6th weekend ever after Avatar, Top Gun Maverick, and Titanic
IMO ultra low theater count weekends shouldn't count when it comes to records. EDIT: They didn't count Frozen's 1st weekend in one theater.
The OP gave the adjusted records.
Oh ok. I didn't see them mention that.
Reminder that this soon to be $600M+ movie opened with a true Friday Gross of **only** $36M 🦵🦵🦵🦵🦵
Titanic: that's cute.
I’m satisfied with those number. Solid
Up **137.3%** from Thursday compared to last week's 136.8%, and down **34.0%** week-on-week from Friday to Friday. Probably around **$20.5-$21m** weekend off the back of this as long as Saturday is as strong as the Saturdays have been — possibly even **$21-$21.5m**. Higher Saturday bumps tend to get easier as the Friday gross gets smaller, so if Avatar 2's Friday-to-Saturday bump is as good as last week's, I'd be expecting a circa-110% Saturday bump or more this week compared to last week's 99.5%. With this estimated $4.65m Friday, Avatar 2 is running at: * **51.5%** of Avatar's $9.03m; * **64.7%** of Top Gun: Maverick's $7.19m; and * **133.2%** of No Way Home's $3.49m.
last sunday was boosted by MLK day i believe, so imho the number will be around 19.5-20.5 M
Yeah, I'm taking that into account — got it at circa-$10m Saturday and a low-to-mid-$6Ms Sunday, say $6.2-$6.6m. We'll see how it goes.
Saw it today in 4dx. Probably the most fun I've ever had in a cinema ever. First time experiencing 4dx and it was so much fun. The film itself was absolutely brilliant too. Great characters and fantastic action. I didn't care much about avatar when it came out. I rewatched it last week to catch up and now after seeing 2 I'm all aboard the avatar train. Bring on 3, 4 and 5.
I saw it in IMAX first and 4dx last night for the second time. The 4dx was cool but after awhile the seat moving got a little much after 3 hours lol. This is one of those movies that needs to be seen in those premium formats if you can, just a great experience that can't be replicated at home.
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Mighty.
What’s the percentage wise relative to last Friday? Edit: never mind, saw it was 34% on the Deadline article.
34% drop. (from 7.04 to 4.65)
Up by 137.2% from Thursday. Drop of 34% from last Friday.
9M Sat incoming.
I've seen it 12 times. Would like to add to the total, but this movie now lulls me to sleep like a sweet lullaby, so I struggle not to pass out now. know the movie by heart, My brother moved in with me and has 2 year old and new born baby and I don't like being home. A-List is great for that
How does one see a movie more than three times? It's only been a month
$20M+ weekend confirmed
The called me a madman in this sub for saying this would make 2 bills before it came out
That's 133.26% of NWH which would be the weakest daily performance against it since the holiday period ended. (New Year's Eve specifically when it did 78.11% of NWHs 3rd Saturday due to calendar configuration.) The target now rises slightly to 143.84% to beat TGM. Friday seems to be the weakest day relatively for A2, last week it only managed 135.98% of NWH and the weekend before that 137.54%, actuals could bump it up a little higher though to make it more in line with those numbers. I'd expect a 150%+ Saturday ($9.77m) leading into a $20m weekend but if it can equal last weekend's overperformance of 161.73% that would net it $10.54m and pave the way for a $7m Sunday assuming the same Sat-Sun drop as its 4th weekend which gives $22.2m on the high end. TL;DR: it's still on track for $20-$22m via the NWH comp.
Probably 4th best 6th weekend unless it manages to dip below Frozen 2’s $19.5M 7th weekend, but 6th in wide release
So 20m 3 day?
Looking like a 20M weekend
Welp, regarding weekends trends, FriYAY drop seems to show that now Avatar 2 will be having NWH-LIKE drops in the weekends. If Saturday gross confirms this trend, we can discard that TWOW will be having Maverick-like weekend drops henceforward. However, 600M still on reach. 700M will be a very slow grind, Maverick alas. Nonetheless, solid performance for a Friday. We have to wait for Saturday grosses in order to determine if this trend continues and this weekend gross goes higher/lower. As a lot of fellow Redditors have already said: this weekend gross seems like: 15(Floor) -22M(ceiling).
“However, 600M still on reach” You say that as if the weekend won’t put TWOW 2m away from 600M.
We have to wait Saturday grosses. But as a matter of fact, 600M were predicted to be crossed by TWOW as early as yesterday and as late as next Tuesday. Again, we have to wait for today's gross. But, TWOW reaching 600M sooner or later is _Inevitable_
> TWOW reaching 600M sooner or later is Inevitable That's more like it!
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On a box office sub talking about the 6th highest grossing movie ever🤡🤡🤡
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Just ignore it? Would you go onto a football sub and complain that they keep talking about things that happened in a game?
> get that, but it pops up on r/all. Ok, but that's a problem you have with reddit's algorithm. Going to the subreddit to complain just lower's everyone's quality of life. > For months I read about them making billions, what is another couple million? Because it hasn't been out for months? Pre-release estimates/debates about how it will do/post-release tracking. A lot of it is also "using new data to predict final endpoint (and debate what that means). e.g. it's less that a film makes 4.65M or 4.8M on Friday than if people think that number implies that it will make 625M Domestic final gross or a 700M final one. There's also the aspect of using box office numbers as a way to attempt to test how genuinely popular stuff is.
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Anyone in this sub. We follow BO for runs like this.
We live for this. The need for speed in BO grosses!!!!
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nah bro we just like to analyze numbers, it's not that deep
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i mean the number predictions
r/lostredditors
No one cares? 🤣 How intellectually deficient are you to not realize that this is a boxoffice sub where community members do care for a movie about to hit 2B. Only 5 other movies have done that. It's an unicorn club mate.
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You're not even subscribed and you're taking the piss out of other people who enjoy reading this kind of stuff? Just ignore the sub. It's not that hard
Hmm..hit a nerve, didn't I?
For someone who doesn't care you sure wated a lot of time typing this. Move on and hush.