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phillygeekgirl

King's novel Doctor Sleep features Danny Torrance as an adult. Sequels that are done significantly later in the game frequently are terrible; Doctor Sleep is a standout for how to do it right. Alcoholism is an underlying theme in Doctor Sleep as well. King himself has been clean for 30+ years at this point.


Pythias

Yes!!! I'm so glad someone recommended this. Doctor Sleep is hands down one of my favorite King novels (more so than The Stand and IT) and it's because it depicts depression so well. But the best thing about it is that ends with such a hopeful ending. I've never suffered from addiction to substances (unless you count sugar and caffeine). But I used to struggle with depression and King understands those feelings all too well.


Vicious_Vixen22

I'm definitely picking up Dr. Sleep. I really need some relateability


oldnick40

I will check it out after this thread, because I love the Shining for all these reasons! Doctor Sleep in the TBR pile!


Pythias

I hope you love it.


42gOldenlover

So can people who aren't in to horror read the Shining? Is it worth the time and void of nightmares?


jtherese

It’s worth your time but it’s not void of nightmares.


4Foot6Foot4FootCess

My perception of King's kind of horror was that it doesn't always have to be monsters and boogeymen. It's ordinary, relatable people put in situations that deteriorate and you can see the human point of view struggle with it. Just my tuppence worth.


mathemattastic

I find that King's work is scariest when he's dealing with humans, because he can write an scary person very believably. The monster stuff is actually a relief (bc monsters aren't real)


Solipsaurus

Absolutely! This is why I think Roadwork is one of his scariest stories - the self destruction is epic, but there are no supernatural villains to blame, only grief.


phillygeekgirl

Oh that story was devastating. Loved it.


Pythias

100%. I think it is worth the nightmares.


thestoryof-agirl

It didn’t *scare* me tbh I have a hard time finding books that freak me out though. Plus it’s not as much of a horror/slasher as the movie is. It’s *intense* but a lot in the movie doesn’t happen in the book.


Far_Administration41

I’m not into horror at all, but I have read almost everything Stephen King has ever written, starting when I was way too young for them. Sometimes I can’t read specific books in bed because I know I will have trouble sleeping and will read over lunch, or early evening, but most of his books I have read read in bed without nightmares.


LeibnizThrowaway

I fall asleep listening to murder podcasts every night except Sunday - when there's a new This American Life - and the only thing that's ever seriously fucked me up for sleep was reading In Cold Blood for like the tenth time, late at night.


ratsrule67

Ah, yes, TAL. Fellow murder show fan, also sleep to murder shows.


ttginger

Almost the same. I listen to true crime podcasts during the day and fall asleep to mindhunter, dateline or forensic files at night. I cannot get into In Cold Blood though. I do read other true crime novels. Also bought a few Joe Hill books that I’m diving into right now. I’ve read all of SKs old stuff and hit and miss on his new stuff.


takky307

I have read most of his books as well, and a majority of them don't freak me out...but there are definitely a couple that I try not to revisit. The short story about the finger coming out of the drain had me scared of going to the bathroom in an empty house for...too long. And happy cake day!


Far_Administration41

Thanks.


RestingPianoFace-_-

I love horror, and I would say The Shining has it’s frightening moments here and there, but it’s very approachable and not too overwhelming with the horror for the most part. If horror is a scale of 1 to 10, (1 being “wait, this is supposed to be horror? Lol” and 10 being “this is deeply messed up, I don’t know if I can’t finish this”) The Shining is probably a 6


TheRealVidjagamer

I am 1000% not a horror guy. I dont enjoy horror movies or horror games. I thoroughly enjoyed The Shining and other Stephen King books. There are scary scenes, but it hits differently to me personally. I'd say give it a try.


HinterlandMystery

Great book, highly disturbing. I’m not into horror (actually stopped reading King because it’s nightmare inducing) but Stephen King is phenomenal story teller and writer. That is what makes him worth reading but also what makes him very disturbing : he’s so good at conveying the dark side of humanity that it’s extra frightening.


FireLucid

He's got some other great stuff that isn't strictly horror. The Green Mile and 11.22.63 are both pretty different from his usual stuff.


LeibnizThrowaway

In his excellent book about writing, "On Writing," he says that he was so messed up when he was writing The Shining that he didn't realize he was writing about himself.


AsFarAsItGoes

In the copy of Doctor Sleep I read, the preamble has some pretty neat insights into what sober steven king thinks about The Shining. He said that years later, after he himself got sober, he realized that what he was describing in Jack’s situation was “white knuckle sobriety” - basically when people manage to stay sober, but failed to address the underlying problems, and hence have to “power through” their urges. The approach more often than not fails. Whatever lived in the hotel was able to get to Jack, because he was emotionally vulnerable, and all the violence Jack displayed when drunk was still in him under a thin coating of “I do it for my family”. King has a tendency for self injections in his books, but I think it’s fascinating that he didn’t realize he was describing himself in Jack until years later.


phillygeekgirl

Oh fascinating! Thank you for this; I'm going to look for that preface.


AsFarAsItGoes

I hope you don’t blame me if you don’t find it. I think I got the book in a “bring one, take one” book shop while traveling idk how many years ago. It was a paperback, so no fancy special edition. If no one else remembers it like I do, there is a good chance I might simply misremember it, and maybe injected some of my own ideas. I definitely remember the white knuckle sobriety part though, because it was the first time I’ve ever heard the term, and I remember thinking “what a great description for something so complex”.


imnotanevilwitch

I’m pretty sure SK’s white knuckle sobriety comments are referenced on the wikipedia page for Doctor Sleep.


iatealotofcheese

Absolutely agree with Doctor Sleep, and I found the movie to be better than the Shining movie as well. Danny feels like such a real person and his and his father's addictions are described in such an honest and accessible way. And I always loved Wendy. Wendy always felt like the sober part of Jack. The part that always believed he could still be good.


jfsindel

Doctor Sleep is also a great horror movie. It definitely deals with more than simply killing people. Great cinematography, acting, and a heavier focus on themes.


ttginger

Yea and the hotel was perfect at the end!


Ginandbooks

Can't recommend Doctor Sleep enough! Great read overall, but the way he weaves AA and addiction into the story from all angles is exceptional.


FresnoBobRidesAgain

Many Clean King books are just as as good as the drug fueled 70s/80s output. Although he was on Oxycontin for a while after his accident, and wrote Dreamcatcher freehand...and that book was bonkers.


throway_nonjw

Interesting you say that. I really liked the Talisman, that he co-wrote with Peter Straub, but the sequel, Black House, was dissatisfying, to say the least. IMO, YMMV.


phillygeekgirl

Oh yeah that one was super disappointing. I really wanted to like it - I loved Jack.


strothsloth

I put off reading Dr. Sleep because of the fact it was so long after the Shining, I was just convinced it wouldn't be worth it. Wrong! It is definitely an amazing follow up and I'm really glad I read it.


MutedHornet87

Congrats on your sobriety. That’s a great accomplishment, and something to be proud of! Don’t sleep on Under the Dome


AMasonicYouth

Thanks. And yeah, don't worry. There's a list.


MutedHornet87

I’m trying to make good on a 20 year old goal to read all of King’s books (and his son’s). I’m at 22 right now. Just finished Salem’s Lot, Night Shift, Revival, Gerald’s Game and Bag of Bones (since springtime). I’ve been collecting his books for years, but had been putting most of them off for the same amount of time. My mental health is poor, and it can be really hard to focus or concentrate, and near impossible to get lost in things. I didn’t/don’t want to cheapen the experiences I read a ton of other books to try to improve things, but nothing has gotten better and meds/groups don’t work. But I figured I should read them in case I die soon or something


Pyesmybaby

He has a couple of short story collections you might find helpful if you are having issues committing to a whole novel. I won't read some of those stories again they scared the cap out of me


MutedHornet87

Thanks. I’ve read Bazaar, Night Shift, Everything’s Eventual (my favourite), Just After Sunset, Nightmares and Dreamscapes and If It Bleeds. Plus most of Full Dark, No Stars. I love his short stories. I have read 26 books this year. And 48/58/53 in the years prior.


dominicaldaze

Dude you haven't read Different Seasons yet??? Three of the four stories were made into movies!


MutedHornet87

No. Not yet, for reasons mentioned above. It’s a set of novellas though, as opposed to short stories. I have a couple copies


Olay_Biscuit-Barrel

I noticed you didn't mention Skeleton Crew. Definitely one of his better collections and shorter stories, so that might help. Hope things get better for you.


MutedHornet87

I own a couple copies, but no, I haven’t read it yet. I look forward to doing so. Thank you


Olay_Biscuit-Barrel

Also, if shorter fiction is what you want, check out Gateways to Abomination and Creeping Waves by Matthew Bartlett. They're weird, mean, darkly funny vignettes that are sometimes a page or two, and rarely longer than twenty, that form an overall story of a witch haunted town in New England. Perfect for if you want to pick something up, read a four page story, then focus on something else.


NoYouCantUseACheck

Don't forget to read the Richard Bachman books


MutedHornet87

No. Of course not. I have The Bachman Books (though I almost died by getting t-boned on the way home from buying it), and the individual books. Have had The Running Man since the 90s. It’s one of my favourites. Thanks


f1rstbyter

I always felt The Long Walk was a sleeper, one of his best that no one ever goes on about.


MutedHornet87

It’s talked about a lot, and with love, on his subreddit. I bought it in high school, but didn’t finish it. I don’t know why. Will rectify that.


CHNchilla

I hope you mental health gets better. On a different note, what have been your favorites of his? I’ve also read a lot of his stuff so I’m interested to hear what another constant reader thinks!


MutedHornet87

Thanks. I’ve been attending groups, talked to 4 psychiatrists, tried 25 meds, attended 3 day programs and did counselling; but nothing really helps. - Under the Dome - Pet Sematary - Everything’s Eventual - The Running Man I also really liked Billy Summers, The Outsider and The Institute.


ttginger

I can’t get into Billy Summers. Is it worth sticking it out?


MutedHornet87

Maybe it’s not for you, which is ok I really enjoyed it though, and think so. I liked the story and the life he lived


ttginger

I might try it again. Maybe I wasn’t in the right mind set for it.


tullr8685

If you enjoyed the addiction angle, then definitely check out Doctor Sleep. As a fellow alcoholic/addict, the sequel really hit home for me since it is the major theme of the sequel


TheRealVidjagamer

Careful! I just finished the Dark Tower series and now 90% of my reading list is Stephen King. I thought I wanted a break from King, so i bought some other books ive been interested in. I've chewed through Mother Night and The Handmaids Tale cause I really wanted to get back to Stephen King books and I'm about to start The Stand. This guy will suck you in lol.


iceariina

I know it's been recommended already but Doctor Sleep is a much more thematic read and hands down, one of my favorite books of all time. I think you'd find it much more relatable. Edit: it's a sequel to The Shining and I liked it far better.


Hellblazer1138

I haven't read Under the Dome since it came out and I wasn't that impressed then but I keep hearing this opinion so I probably missed something during my first read. Then again, I liked Tommyknockers.


Malentfire

Under the Dome is one of my favorites, especially Junior's arc


MutedHornet87

I read it when it came out. Borrowed it from my library and couldn’t put it down. It’s been my favourite ever since. Before that it was The Running Man. I still have quite a few to read though, including most of the classics


Vicious_Vixen22

That was my first big book as a teenager.....wow. I have a lot of feelings about that book.


JavaGusLuna

I second this - Under the Dome is amazing.


ok_chaos42

This has always been something I've loved about King. I've been a Constant Reader for 20 years and I am always blown away at how deep the themes can be in his books. Yes there is the scary aspect but many of his books have some great lessons to learn.


BoinkBoinkEtAliae

I agree, I love reading King even if his writing isn't perfect. To me he has two main strengths: He can paint a very clear descriptive picture without being overly wordy or pretentious His characters and settings always feel very real, even if they're fantastical (The Dark Tower series is a good example)


AMasonicYouth

His only book I'd read before this was Cujo in 5th grade. I got a few days of detention for bringing "pornography" into school (I'm from a really conservative pocket of Appalachia). I'd always stayed away from his work because I got the wrong idea from the book and any of his movie adaptations. A friend of mine said I was being dumb for doing so, so I decided to start taking King books from my parents' shelves during my last visit.


ok_chaos42

I'm glad you're giving his writing a second chance. He's my favorite author and I love his work. I don't know your relationship status, nor is it my business, but a great book about love and marriage is Lisey's Story. King put a lot of his own marriage into that book and its his favorite of his own works. I recommend that one to everyone, but I think since you enjoy the themes within his books you might enjoy Lisey's Story as well.


TheRealVidjagamer

Thats interesting. I had a similar experience. I read The Eyes of the Dragon for a book report in grade 6. I was so proud to finish such a big book. My teacher found out and said that book is for adults and she wouldn't accept a report on it. I was so bummed out and it steered me away from King books for a long time. Glad we both got back into it.


CandaceBedard

This personally hurts me for you guys. I'm from a town in northern Ontario, and got permission to do a book report on Misery in grade 3, because my teacher encouraged my reading and was curious if I'd actually understand some of the obviously advanced themes for my age. (I wrote her as an adult and thanked her for being such a wonderful and nurturing teacher at an age where it was badly needed.) Glad you ended up enjoying King anyways.


Witchinmelbourne

If you took all the horror and supernatural themes out of King's books, they would still be really solid stories about people just being people. Rose Madder is the best example, and I've banged on about it here before- 2/3 of it is just a brilliantly sad study on domestic violence.


Pleasant_Choice_6130

He lived it, he knew it, he wrote it. All the authenticity comes from King's lived experience 💯 Shining and Pet Cemetery are probably some of my faves and also the first I started out on, although I was 12! Lol


JUYED-AWK-YACC

Jack Torrance isn’t the only amazing character in *The Shining*. Wendy is a great example of an alcoholic’s wife.


veronicacherrytree

Can you explain this some more? It's been a long time since I read the book and now that I've experienced being with an alcoholic, I'm curious


Ktovan

Stephen is in recovery from both alcohol and cocaine abuse. Rolling Stone did a great interview a quite few years back: “You had a major drinking problem, too. When did that become an issue? I started drinking by age 18. I realized I had a problem around the time that Maine became the first state in the nation to pass a returnable-bottle-and-can law. You could no longer just toss the shit away, you saved it, and you turned it in to a recycling center. And nobody in the house drank but me. My wife would have a glass of wine and that was all. So I went in the garage one night, and the trash can that was set aside for beer cans was full to the top. It had been empty the week before. I was drinking, like, a case of beer a night. And I thought, “I’m an alcoholic.” That was probably about ’78, ’79. I thought, “I’ve gotta be really careful, because if somebody says, ‘You’re drinking too much, you have to quit,’ I won’t be able to.” https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/stephen-king-the-rolling-stone-interview-191529/


YourFriendNoo

I just wanted to say, I'm glad you're doing better. Be well.


podslapper

The awesome thing about Stephen King is that he has so much good stuff out there (and is still producing good stuff at an incredible pace even into his seventies) that the well would take a looong time to run dry. I’ve been reading him off and on for over 20 years and still haven’t touched a good chunk of his books yet.


econoquist

Tee up Different Seasons.


throway_nonjw

That is probably my favourite book of his.


nevernomoore

Stephen King is an alcoholic (perhaps recovering now, not sure) and he has said he doesn’t remember writing some of his books. [https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2013/sep/21/stephen-king-shining-sequel-interview](https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2013/sep/21/stephen-king-shining-sequel-interview) and…..[https://www.mamamia.com.au/stephen-king-books/amp/](https://www.mamamia.com.au/stephen-king-books/amp/)


Denverdogmama

He has also stated that the Shining is very personal and autobiographical. Cujo is the book he barely remembers writing.


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Denverdogmama

I read it so long ago I barely remember it. And I cried at the movie, too. It’s just pretty notorious for the fact that uncle Stevie barely remembers writing it. I’ve been a big SK fan since finding and reading my dad’s copy of the Shining shortly after he died (I was 7).


brojangles

He says now that he thinks >!he should not have killed the kid and that movie's ending was better!<. I believe he also said that he thought about releasing *Cujo* as a Bachman book because of its darkness (or was that *Pet Semetery*).


Ok-Map4381

I really like that King is willing to admit when the movies find better endings than he did.


sweetdawg99

He's said that also in regards to The Mist.


HugoNebula

I don't believe I've ever read King say that *Cujo*'s movie ending was better—he definitely said that about *The Mist*, though. There was an interview at the time—so much for King not remembering writing *Cujo*!—in which King described writing that scene and stopping dead, as he didn't even know it was going to happen. He took stock, and then carried on writing, seeing where that twist took the story. King's agent, Kirby McCauley, said years after the books had been published, that he wished he'd pushed King to release *Cujo* as a Bachman book and *Thinner* as King, because that was a better thematic match.


j4k35t4

He also wrote The Running Man in 72 hours straight.... I wonder how


flaggrandall

No wonder that book reads like a feverdream


ok_chaos42

He's been in recovery from drugs and alcohol for many years now.


murderthedancefloor

I LOVE THE SHINING. The chapter where King explains what the Shining is, gave me chills. Interesting about alcoholism though I can see that.


flipflapslap

Yes! Having only seen the movie for most my life, I really enjoyed learning more about the shining when I finally read the book. I loved all the lore and history about the hotel as well.


murderthedancefloor

I thankfully do not remember the movie too much so that made the book way more appealing to me. Although I do love me some crazy Nickolson!


imnotanevilwitch

Are you talking about the part where they take Danny to the doctor and he explains it, or the part where Danny talks about being able to read his parents thoughts? Both are explanations of the shining, and both are to me some of the best parts in the book but I can’t figure out why. Nothing particularly exciting is happening. But they stand out.


Similar_Craft_9530

First of all, watch Stephen King's The Shining with Stephen Webber. He brings humanity to Jack Torrance that Jack Nicholson doesn't. Then read Dr Sleep. It's Danny Torrance all grown up. Spoiler: it's Danny Torrance all grown up dealing with his own substance issues. It's so accurate because Stephen King is a recovering addict.


Low_Marionberry3271

One of my favorite things about King’s writing is how relatable his characters are. He is a very talented writer whether he writes in the horror genre or not.


BlazeOfGlory72

A lot of his best stories feature little or no horror really. The Body, 11/22/63, Misery, The Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile and The Long Walk all come to mind. It almost feels like he got pigeonholed as “the horror guy”, but he’s a great author even away from the genre.


AMasonicYouth

I also read The Mist and one of the most interesting things to me is that the monsters aren't the "bad guys" as much as the humans who treat each other horribly are. The monsters are just doing what their biology is telling them to while the humans are acting like villains. It's a neat perspective.


BlazeOfGlory72

One of the interesting aspects to many King stories is that they may feature some kind of supernatural monster, yet the true horror is usually the evil or weakness inside the human heart. It’s a far more personal kind of horror. Since your post is about The Shining, I’ll use that as an example. For me, the most “horrifying” element of this story was never the ghosts, it was Jack. As the child of an alcoholic, it was both incredibly relatable, and deeply unsettling to see how well King nailed that feeling of dread at seeing your parent change before your very eyes into something monstrous. If you are looking for other King novels that explore that theme of “man being the true monster”, I’d recommend It, The Needful Things, The Green Mile and Under the Dome.


tyleratx

This is why i like King. He’s not the most literary or poetic author, but he gets the human condition and crafts deep real characters. That’s really what his best books are about: characters dealing with emotional trauma. The supernatural stuff just brings it out and serves as a visceral version of the trauma. I highly recommend “It”. Read it before seeing the movies if you haven’t. The way he narrates it via flashback is really good and not really replicable in film. It’s essentially about childhood trauma.


lyan-cat

I read it when I was in third grade; definitely a bit young, but I was amazed that he nailed Jack's relationship with his dad. I had been in abusive situations, and finding that complex love/hate woven in was kind of a relief because it gave me some kind of emotional validation. Plus I loved spooky stories, so a haunted hotel? Yes, please!


Malentfire

[https://chartingthetower.wordpress.com/2020/06/17/extended-dark-tower-reading-order/](https://chartingthetower.wordpress.com/2020/06/17/extended-dark-tower-reading-order/) [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/stephenking/images/5/50/Stephen\_King\_Map\_of\_Book\_Connections.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170603001109](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/stephenking/images/5/50/Stephen_King_Map_of_Book_Connections.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170603001109) I highly recommend the Dark Tower series if you are just getting started with King, really though, if you get into reading King you are reading about the Dark Tower in some way or another. I often find myself discovering something I had missed in previous reads and there are few of his books I've read that I dislike.


tyleratx

You think dark tower is a good starting series? I’d imagine it would throw some ppl off just bc it’s (without getting into spoiler territory)… trippy.


Malentfire

I didn't say anyone should start there, i said if they were getting into King that i highly recommended it.


spartankelli

I'd save the Dark Tower until after after Salem's Lot at least, and probably IT, The Stand, and Eyes of the Dragon as well.


kamarsh79

I recently read it for the first time too and really thought that no movie could capture really being so deeply into a character’s mind like that.


SarlacFace

IMO King is one of the best writers of believable small-town America and its characters. That his books are frequently horror is almost incidental. One of my personal favorites that probably isn't gonna be recommended too much is Tommyknockers. Terrible movie but the book is fantastic.


marialala1974

I am so happy to hear you are doing the work needed, best of luck. Now King had addiction problems like others have pointed out. I am surprised no one has mentioned Misery which King describes as his experience doing drugs and trying to write. I loved the book and the movie.


ShinyBlueChocobo

You just described most King books


Tanwalrus

Congrats!! My first King book was The Stand, the uncut version, cause my friend said it was his best one and loaned it to me. It’s still one of my favorite books a decade later, and now I’m hooked on reading a few King books a year. He really understands people. Just finished The Shining yesterday :)


geauxandy72

I’m almost done reading my first King novel. The Institute and damn is it good.


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First of all, Congrats on sobriety and getting the help you need. My own experience with King is vacillating. Read my first King novel (‘Salems Lot) at age 12….and was hooked. Proceeded to read most novels until my mid 20’s, taste has changed. His male leads are almost always self righteous, Quixotic like characters. But to each their own. Still go back every couple of years and re read Salems Lot, for nostalgia. Continued success to you!


luminous_beings

This is the secret to Stephen Kings work. All his crazy ideas aside, his characters are relatable on a very very deep and profound level. Even his profoundly evil characters, and a dog with rabies evoke strange feelings of empathy. I think he has a natural talent for understanding the human condition and that’s why his work feels different to me.


narieboy

Try UNDER THE DOME, had me reading until 1:000 am every night


Suspicious_Train_283

Oh my gosh I love Stephen king and I started with the shining as well. Don't you just love the detail in the writing?


wamj

For your comment about the movie, what I always say is: As a movie it is excellent, and one of my all time favorites. As an adaptation, it is absolutely horseshit.


Other-Application415

Great book


BlazeOfGlory72

That has always been the secret to King’s success in my opinion, his ability to craft such “human” characters and stories.


conlsmc06

As someone who struggles, when it is in Jack's narrative, I find it hard to get through. The impulsivity of him wanting a drink is very relatable.


InvestmentExtra4104

Thank you for your thoughts. The Shining is a great book and the movie is great if you’ve never read the book. And , if you are getting through The Shining and enjoying King, give The Stand a chance! I read The Stand cover to cover in March 2020… that was an experience.


jfsindel

King's writing makes me crazy because it really shouldn't work, but for some reason, he is the only person who can make it work. A lot of people try to emulate him but it's impossible. But King has always had these very real themes and concepts that other writers just don't do. People make fun of him for "being out of ideas" (killer car, killer dog, killer trucks, killer factory machines, etc.) but when actually reading them, it has a very well-thought out premise and several themes.


StarfishArmCoral

Stephen King is/was an alcoholic and it comes through in his writing. I will always love him for his raw honesty about what it's like day to day


slapfunk79

You get that with a lot of Stephen King books as he had his own struggle with achoholism.


newerdewey

he really nails the shame part of drinking and letting the people you love down


TrippDJ71

With all the drinking , LSD and cocaine he did. He knows as well. That's why he's so relatable. :)


munkey13

Enjoy The Stand! And toss Twilight into the nearest fire.


yellowchicken

Nah, read Twilight and enjoy it or don’t - but let’s let people just enjoy things!


thestoryof-agirl

The Stand is my absolute favorite


swallowsnest87

The dark tower series is the best king work IMO. My issue with the shining movie is that in the movie the ghosts are in his head but in the book they are real.


dragonfliesloveme

They are real in the movie too. Many clues to that, but the picture at the end is the clincher


violetsprouts

Both the book and movie are so good, but the book is better about delving into the alcoholic mind. The movie went at it as more of a possession.


_LYSEN

I just read it recently as well. Generational trauma is also a significant theme. Did not expect that


MedicineOutrageous13

Wow! I’m reading it currently too. New to Stephen king as well.


OpinionatedFanatic

Nightmares and dreamscapes is fantastic.


canary_suspect

I started reading the shining right around the time I decided to get sober. It was strangely helpful to me, and I still look back on it fondly. I felt it was handled well too


WillyMonty

King had a lot of personal experience to draw on


batbobby82

King definitely likes to write about what he knows and he knows alcoholism very well. The Shining was long before he got clean too, so it shows how long he was struggling with it.


betafish2345

That’s because Steven King is a recovering alcoholic so he understands. You know he was struggling when he wrote that book


throway_nonjw

Don't do The Stand next, go with Carrie and/or Salem's Lot. The Stand is a bit of a slog.


xbxoxy

Best SK book IMO is "Salem's Lot"


stillawindmill

I love the movie but you just made me really want to read the book


boomper7

King was a hard-core drinker when he wrote this


mydrivec

Best King adaptation is The Green Mile. That and the adaptation of To Kill a Mockingbird are the only two movies IMHO to capture the feel and story in the original books.


billbot77

Misery is a fantastic study on addiction (cocaine)


FullyJay

I read everything King wrote up to the mid-90s. His view of humanity is very raw and truthful. There are very few movie versions of his writing that come even close to getting it. Shawshank and Stand by Me being the clear examples. Are there any other clearly great adaptations that I can’t think of right now?


bmeisler

I believe King was still drinking (and doing tons of blow) when he wrote The Shining. And later on he said he was subconsciously writing about his own alcoholism. That’s what makes a good book great - there’s the obvious theme, subtextual themes and the subconscious theme the writer developed without knowing about it.


HugoNebula

> (and doing tons of blow) Nope. He didn't take coke until some time around the writing of *The Stand*.


Hattkake

For more about Kings addiction problems I recommend his book "On Writing". It's a book about writing but it's also an autobiography. He writes about his life, his inspirations and his addiction problems among other things. It isn't fiction but it is very enjoyable. Also "Tommyknockers" touches on the same theme. But this book was written at the height of Kings addiction and at times it is a rambling mess as it was written in a beer and cocaine fuelled frenzy. The individual parts of the book are good but he does struggle with connecting all the dots. King got clean after Tommyknockers and his writing does improve after but Tommyknockers is still a decent book.


ttginger

Hated the first half of Tommyknockers but loved the second half. I’ve tried numerous times to get back into it but always fail.


SWStribling

The Shining was more about his cocaine addiction. That he really began to lose it with his wife and kids (and his writing) at a certain point. At least that’s what I remember learning from his memoir ‘On writing’. I could be remembering it wrong, but I do remember the sensation/impression like, ‘oh, that makes sense.’


Aeirth_Belmont

Stephen King is an alcoholic. He has been clean for a long time now. He gets it so he is able to write it type deal. Same with drugs. King definitely isn't afraid to get gritty with details.


grynch43

I always say it’s the best book about alcoholism I’ve ever read.


AndrewMacSydney

I thoroughly enjoyed The Stand. The first half of the book was mesmerising stuff. The second half a good v bad showdown. The whole book did not disappoint and I’ve read it many times.


The1983

King is amazing at capturing what addiction is truly like. Revival is another good book of his to read. Also Misery has some great descriptions of what it feels like with withdraw from a substance (in this case it’s benzos). I’m a recovering alcoholic too and I love it when writers get it right like a king does. But he’s a recovering addict too along with being a great writer which is why he’s so spot on


playful_pedals

Agreed! I read it at the beginning of my practicibg sobriety and was surprised!


lucialuccianna

It’s also about a strong creative block and murderous jealousy of the young boy open and sensitive to all the nuances of the environment scary as it was. Imo SK was able to tap into his own addiction issues to depict the character with depth.


Hasbeast

Stephen King's fantastic at making his stories, and in particular characters vices, relatable and real. I think I love his writing so much because his work, despite being supernatural, is always grounded by very real people with all their flaws.


JayneT70

https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2013/sep/21/stephen-king-shining-sequel-interview


TrippDJ71

The talisman was my first of his in 7thgrade. Have read everything he's put a processor to. Great journey. I envy you. Enjoy. Constant Reader. ;)


Drvanfalk

If you only listened to the opinion of this sub you would think Stephen King can only string three words together when he's talking about underage girls bodies. You're not the best selling author in the world if you can't write good. I recommend the talisman next.


SimonJester88

King is at his best when he writes what he knows!! Childhood, fighting addiction, family, small towns, nostalgia, angst, depression, mental illness, alienation, coming of age, finding what you love in life and doing it... The horror is just what he's known for. He is an alcoholic. He knows what it feels like to battle those demons. It's really cool you had this connection. I love it when I find shared experiences and beliefs with authors...especially when it's from sources written in the past.


MikeyRatt75

Dr. Sleep is one of King's best. It forced to read The Shining ( which I was avoiding for some reason). Both great reads. I think that The Shining was just too hyped for my liking. Don't worry I read The Shining first while Dr. Sleep sat on my shelf waiting.


jsphillips86

I don’t have the attention span to read his books. They are so long. I loved the Under the Dome tv show, so I did “read” that book on audible. It was all right, but I didn’t love it. I’ve seen Misery and The Shining. I’ve thought about reading them, but long books are so hard for my ADHD mind to get through.


oxfouzer

I honestly didn’t read your entire post, but I had to say that SK is VERY overrrated author. I’ve never seen an author strive for length over content more 😩


Tanman7211

You’re basically admitting you haven’t actually read his books. Just like you were too lazy to even read the entire post.


oxfouzer

Basically


IndigenousBastard

Sorry, I'm the first to admit that I am not reading that massive post. Based off your title, I can tell you that 90% of horror, suspense, or true crime novels involve a character that's an alcoholic. You will find it in almost every one of Kings books. Its the same with the other genre's authors I mentioned. Especially if the book is about an author... Guaranteed they are an alcoholic. Its a very tired trope that rep\[eats itself due to the influence the older authors have on the new generation. I agree, its very tiring and cumbersome. Apparently you have to be a drunk to write a book.


SomeParticular

Spoiler warning doesn’t help if the spoiler is in the title