Where to report Asian Hornets (Vespa Velutina)
By - Consistent_Dig2472
Are you sure they are Asian hornets and not rather European hornets?
I suppose they could have been. It was seriously big though and I don't have a good frame of reference.
It looked like the pictures of the Asian hornet, but TBH, it also looks like the pictures of the European hornet you kindly shared with me.
So considering I'm in Europe, the most logical assumption to make is that it's the European hornet and leave them be.
Thanks for your help!
I saw a [terrifyingly big one](https://twitter.com/ratkins/status/1434512882826424321) on the weekend, but Twitter talked me down. A quick google comes up with [this comparison](https://entomology.ces.ncsu.edu/murder-hornet-comparison/) which tells me I’d found a normal European hornet (the tell is the dots, rather than the pure stripes.)
Ah that's a really handy comparison. Thanks for that!
In my country Portugal, there is an app for this called STOPVespa. I am surprised to know there isn't such a thing in Germany.
Anyway, I found this:
Super helpful. Thank you!
If it was "seriously big" it might have been our domestic hornet, because in the article linked by u/detteros, it says4 "Diese Hornissenart ist von der Größe her etwas kleiner als unsere heimische Hornissenart Vespa crabro."
Ours are bigger! We win! 😁
Yea that's what sealed it for me! I had no idea the European hornet was so big.
Yeah, leave them be, they are harmless if not bothered. Don’t kill them, as killing a European hornet or nest is illegal with a hefty fine.
Nothing in OPs thread suggests he/she wants to kill them. :S
> I‘m aware of the fact that these things are causing untold damage across Europe and the US.
They have been spreading like wildfire here.
But only in Twitter feeds. Not IRL.
I don't use Twitter, but if the problem is overhyped (as they so often are) that's good to know and thanks!
I would go as far and say that this is a completely nonexistent problem here.
If you are absolutely certain that it is a murder hornet though, unfortunately your house will need to be burned down. Contact the authorities about evacuation protocol.
I second the express burn down.
It needs to be done following proper protocol and procedures. Inquire with authorities about the correct form and paperwork for burning down your house asap.
I was already googling flamethrowers just in case ;)
Twitter is quite awesome, I recommend that you try it. Maybe then you'd be able to solve the hornet problem...
Congratulations on spotting one of Berlin's many very cool wild urban animals. This one is naturally a little scarier than most and there is nothing strange about having a strong reaction to seeing one for the first time, since they are enormous and loud! I hope I can set your mind at ease a little.
The European Hornet is a rarity, making your home sighting pretty special. They are not naturally aggressive and do not attack people, except in cases where they are defending their own lives, a food source (they are insect hunters and they also like sweet things), or their nest. In many years spent visiting a couple of European Hornet nests in Berlin regularly, the only time I have ever seen anyone stung was...me, and it was because one landed on my hand, and without looking I assumed it was a mosquito and gave it an absent-minded slap. It may be relaxing to you to know that although it hurt like fuck, nothing bad happened – the sting hurt, the area right around it was a bit numb and swollen, and a couple of hours later it was as if it hadn't happened. Their venom is more painful but not more powerful than honeybee venom, and although it is an allergen for people with that sensitivity, it isn't a stronger one than other stings.
I think they should be enjoyed. It's pretty great to meet a vespine so big that you can make eye contact! And it's kind of like the Siberian Tiger of insect hunters. But, if it is hanging out somewhere and freaking you out, you can just wait inside and it will go away again. If it comes in, it will go back out again if you keep a path free for it. They do not want to live in your home.
They are a protected species, so it's important not to harass them, and certainly not to kill them. But, it's also unnecessary since it's improbable that they are setting up shop near you (they can travel pretty far in a day).
I can't find a single reputable source sharing any Berlin sightings of Asian Hornets (I see some UK fishwrap press doing their usual thing though). I can see that there have been some isolated findings of them in Hamburg and that region from a couple of years ago where the nests were removed.
For what it's worth, the whole "murder hornet" thing is itself a little goofy. They are an agricultural pest because they kill pollinators, so it's good to prevent their spread in a new ecosystem, but let's be honest; we call them murder hornets because it sounds dramatic and because we're taught that tiny things which can capably defend themselves against us are unacceptable. Here is a reality check article from UC Davis about whether you need to personally worry about Asian Hornets: http://cesanmateo.ucdavis.edu/?blogpost=41391&blogasset=107918
Thanks for taking the time to write this.
Always nice to be reminded how many good folk are in Reddit.
You're welcome, and thanks for being open-minded about our more interesting/challenging critters!
Those are just regular hornets, nothing to be alarmed about. They are harmless, they are protected, consider yourself lucky to see some. Positively don't hurt or trap them in any way.
Thanks, I think you are right. It's just in over 3 years of being here I have never seen such a large hornet. But after reading up about the European hornet thanks to your and others replies, the resemblance is there and it is the most logical assumption.
I was biking in the forest a couple of months ago and this beast of a hornet was keeping page with our bikes at 15-20 kph. It was impressive to see it fly along my handlebars. They get big.
Do you remember if it had ‘teardrops’ on its back and a reddish head (European hornets do)? Unfortunately I found a colony of Vespa velutina in Portugal, I can send you pictures so you can see what they look like.
They’re about 3-4cm long.
Unfortunately I only learned about those markings after the fact, so I didn't take notice.
But now I know what to look for if I ever see them again.