By - ChishNFips87
Shout out to the two animated movies on here. Despite being polar opposites in tone they really are both pretty great
*Batman: Subzero* was better than *Batman & Robin* based on every possible metric....
Lego Batman is fire idk what u all on abt
Agreed, but something has to go :(
Begins! The better Nolan movie is still there and the other options offer more variety!
I’d say 89 personally. It’s a great movie with some especially great parts but there are a lot of ways in which it doesn’t quite hold up and I’m ok letting it go
Nah tdkr is overhated
Fr it's such a great movie. I rewatched it again recently and I liked it even more.
The two biggest mistakes TDKR made:
1) The Batman-coming-out-of-retirement opening. We didn't need to watch Bruce make another comeback, considering we already had Bane crippling him in this movie. I realize the opening was meant to be a nod towards The Dark Knight Returns, but that source material deserves its own dedicated film. It also robbed us of more Batman scenes, though I do love Bale's Bruce.
2) Having the cop's legal name be "Robin" - a pure example of underestimating the audience intelligence. Something Nolan openly prides himself of not doing in his films. This is a rare example where he strayed from his own code.
There's a few other forgivable plot holes, but all in all, it's an effective send-off and it's still the second-highest rated Batman movie on IMDB. It's ambitious, has good acting and punctuates one of the greatest film trilogies of all time.
Personally, it's #3 for me, right ahead of The Batman (where mimicry is the purest form of flattery), and behind the other two Nolan offerings.
Nope, biggest mistake is sending all of Gotham's cops into the sewers then leaving them all kidnapped there like any of that makes sense.
Or that the stock market wouldn't roll back sales or halt trading when there's a terrorist attack on the trading floor.
Or that Bruce Wayne's mansion could be repossessed because clearly his generational home would still be under mortgage and that he had not enough personal liquidity to pay his power bill.
I'm willing to suspend disbelief about punching a dude in the spine will fix paralysis because fuck it, Batman, but there's more, I'm sure, and those are what I remember off the top of my head.
It's a very badly written movie with some fun scenes, but I don't get this sub stanning for it so hard.
Or how did Bane trick whatever forensics team examined the wreckage that Pavil was there because they squirted some blood into a random corpse.
Or why did he had to leave one of his guys behind when the agent saying he only reported having one prisoner was clearly an intimidation tactic. Bane even literally called him out on it.
Or how were the police tracking the senator’s phone? And how did they show up, in full riot gear, so fast at the bar? Were they just patrolling the city ready to go?
The timing of the movie is really weird, too. Batman is out on the frozen lake when Blake begins fighting those guys that take their time to shoot him on the end, but then somehow manages to get to Blake in time to save him. This happens a lot.
I really honestly think it was rushed into production before the Nolans had a script they liked so they just had to figure it out as they went.
Honestly opening the movie with Batman in retirement having done nothing since the Two-Face incident was such a downer it was hard to recover from.
Even the idea that Batman retires because organized crime was put out of business is just a massive fail. Bruce's parents weren't killed by the mob, just an ordinary street criminal, and as long as there's any crime in Gotham, he's out there fighting it. It even undercuts the final of TDK, Gordon't lines about him being Gotham's dark knight, as apparently he just drove the Batpod home and called it quits. Having him retire put the movie on the wrong foot from the opening.
The movie should have started with Bane breaking his back. And then we jump ahead a few years. It makes more sense that way.
I think it's worse than the sum of its parts. I went into to that movie with sky high expectations and left feeling very deflated. That's not entirely the movies fault, but it is like 3 hours of 3 different movies mashed together, but still has some of the best scenes and performances in Nolan's trilogy.
I'd be fine with saying I like it more overall than Begins, but I don't think it beats out anything else still on the list above it (for me).
That's a great way of putting it. While it does have some cool scenes, some of the writing is so bafflingly terrible I don't know how it made it into the first draft of the script, let alone the finished product.
The fact that Batman emerges from a pit after having is back broken with has no resources or way to contact people somehow travels halfway around the world in about an hour to somehow get back into a quarantined Gotham City, which is about to be destroyed. The first thing he does when back in the city is take the time to paint with gasoline a giant fucking bat on the side of a bridge. How did somebody write that plot point and think it was in anyway a good idea?
I really don't have as much issue with the order of events, it's just that this movie was so overbloated that it has like 6 OMG plot twists and none of them have any room to breathe.
Just watching it the first time it's jarring how many short scenes happen in such quick succession it gets numbing and pulls all of the punch out of those moments.
You can apply the exact same thing to The Dark Knight as well though, it's just that it did a lot of other things better to distract your from it.
So I agree with what you are saying, but I think it also applies to a lot of Nolan's other movies as well, it's just his others tend to be more well made so you don't notice it as easily. TDKR is just too unintentionally goofy for it to slide by unnoticed.
TDK definitely drags towards the end, but the pacing and character work before that suck you in so much that you almost don't mind lol.
I think the biggest issue with TDKR is that it's obvious someone wanted it to be bigger than both of the other movies. I'm not sure if that was a studio request to have it compete with the Avengers coming out that same year or if Nolan was leaning into the line about "escalation" at the end of Begins.
I'm more likely to say it was one of Nolan's excesses rather than a mandate lol, because he loves to swing for the fences in his movies. I have no idea what happened in Tenet but I think I loved it lol.
Nope. It's terrible.
Don't agree with the list bit Batman and Robin is by far the worst one here
My exact issue. Refused to do this poll when its obvious as fuck that half the people here aint seen over half the movies...
Edit: id imagine this is the thought process behind most of these votes
The correct answer is Batman ‘89, but y’all can remove Lego Batman if you want.
Nah Batman 89 is awesome
I still love Batman 89. And no it’s not just nostalgia talking. It might not be as dark and gritty as The Dark Knight or The Batman, but it’s still a blast! Nicholson having the time of his life, then having Keaton playing it so reserved just works so well. Plus Kim Basinger is still hot! Batman Returns is good but I still love 89 more! So boot out the Lego Batman.
Nah Batman 89 is overrated af, I think that the only reason it's portrayed as this great Batman movie is because of nostalgia
This. I dare everyone to rewatch 89, dark knight and the Batman. Tell me that 89 is good. It's an okay movie at best that had Batman. Nostalgia is way too powerful
I’ve seen them all recently. Batman 89 is fantastic. The set design, the music, the costumes. The surrealism atheistic that showed a true auteur artistry. That being said Batman Returns is better and that was cut far too early.
‘89 reinvented superhero films, and made them for adults. It’s not really nostalgia if it was groundbreaking when it came out.
Watched all 3 recently. IMO TDK is best, ‘89 holds up, and The Batman is easily the weakest of the three. ‘89 has cheesy moments, sure, but the story rarely drags, the cast is awesome, and the setting is possibly the best looking of all three.
Everything you said is perfect. The Batman is so painfully average.
Yup. There were some great moments in The Batman, but it was too long, too dark, and too slow. (IMO)
Its the atomosphere thou!
Great set design, great music, great mood
Garbage plot, mediocre acting, plastic ass batsuit, unconvincing batman
If much rather look at stills of 89 and listen to the music than actually watch it
I'm Gen Z and love the movie. Great joker and the set design is incredible.
I watched it recently. It’s good. Better than I remembered in fact
I was voting ‘89 before Returns and Rises but thank GOD y’all finally caught up. It’s NOT THAT GOOD A MOVIE GUYS.
Batman 89, no question
It’s between ‘89 and LEGO now and it hurts me
Lego Batman, not because I think it’s bad but because all the movies we have left are great and this feels like the right time to take the comedic entry off the board.
Comedic does not equal worse
Oh, I agree. I’m pleased that Lego Batman beat TDKR, Justice League, BvS, and the Schumacher movies (which, notably, were comedic in a way that didn’t work). I just don’t think a comedic adaptation should get the top slot, and with the choices that are left, now seems like the time for it to go.
Well there’s no way lego batman is taking THE top spot, but it definitely deserves either the third or fourth spot. First and second are gonna end up being TDK and The Batman. Third is gonna end up being Begins probably, but I can honestly believe Lego being third and Begins coming fourth.
IMO Lego Batman goes in #5. Mask of the Phantasm is just too good.
Sorry LEGO Batman. It is time to go.
People actually say Lego Batman, come on guys it's fire. I vote for Batman '89
TDKR should’ve outlasted 89 tbh.
You're all deranged!
Batman 89. I like it, but it's definitely the weakest of the remaining list.
Love Lego Batman, but unfortunately it’s gotta go
Yeah, definitely 🗿
Batman Begins (and everyone saying Lego Batman...who hurt you, don't you know joy??)
I think it's people who only like grim dark Batman voting for Lego and it's people who don't remember a world without a bajillion Batman movies voting for '89.
In both cases, children.
Either way Begins is the right choice.
Nah, 89 was my first ever Batman movie but I still feel like it’s time for it to go. It’s close for me between Begins and 89 but between the two of them, I like Begins because Batman has a character arc in it, and a lot more focus in general whereas in 89 it really feels like Batman doesn’t get enough attention. It’s a fantastic movie, don’t get me wrong, but that’s gonna be the one reason I like Begins slightly more
I am again going to vote batman 89
I just don't see how it's a good movie. For its time I'm sure it was good but today I thinkbits just poor.
Lego. A great love letter to Batman, but sadly the weakest of those remaining
I always thought Returns was better than ‘89. However my votes for Lego Batman.
Is there a poll for this or do they decide based on amount of comments? For me lego batman should go
Amount of comments. Looking back, I should've said.
not too late to open a poll for the other rounds. Will save u much more time and effort.
I think begins
Batman Begins should be next. If the three entry titles left it is the weakest.
The dark knight is extremely overrated as a Batman movie
batman begins has got to go
Batman 89 goes next
I've heard a lot of great things about the animated one, but I have to vote it out on account of not having seen it and adoring batman 89
You talking about Mask of the Phantasm or Lego?
Phantasm, forgot the name.
I really *should* watch it...
You should. It’s really well done.
I could see this going with LEGO Batman, The Dark Knight, The Batman and lastly MoTP is coming out as the winner, though I could also think of TDK winning it all.
Batman 89 has to go.
Lego Batman, the longer it goes on the harder it gets
Lego Batman gotta go
I mean, I guess Lego Batman I’m sorry
Nahh what the hell
Batman 89’ for sure. I get the love but it’s pretty dated all around.
Batman MOTP is the quintessential Batman movie to me. The Batman has no real depth even though I liked the movie. Tdk and batman begins kind of get in their own way by being a grounded Nolan universe, Begins less so. Lego batman is really good for some reason?
I would say The Batman had some of the most depth. It actually explored and developed Bruce faithfully.
Out of all of these? Batman 1989, hands down
89, Lego must win!
89, hands down
Just discovered this subreddit, and good to see the people have have taste. Except for Batman Returns going and Rises going down too fast. Easiest choice ever for elimination, every movie left is head and shoulders better.
‘89 tbh i like returns more than 89
Definetely Batman 89
‘89. It’s just nostalgia talking for you guys. Save Lego Batman for later.
Definitely voting for batman 1989
89 for sure. Not a good movie
Take that back
TDK is the best of the Nolan Trilogy, '89 is a classic that delivers on the Gothic vibes of Gotham in a way the other live actions don't, LEGO Batman I haven't seen all of but what I have is excellent, and Phantasm is just the objectively correct answer for "Best Batman Movie" so that leaves Begins.
Get rid of Begins.
Lego gotta go
89 it’s almost all Bruce Wayne stuff with some fun joker stuff
Bye bye Lego batman
Glad to see TDKR at least outlasted one of the Burton movies.
Lego Batman and not even close
How is LEGO Batman still in? Haha. I mean… it’s fun. But definitely not better than some of the ones that are already gone.
LEGO Batman, your time has come.
Lego Batman needs to go lol