We literally saved money for 5 years for This. We’ve been a poverty franchise since the Bautista knockout. I’m so proud that we are trying man. It feels so weird
5 years? Feels like 11 years. Every since the last World Series, it's been this feeling of buying their time until everything falls into place.
New ballpark with a roof, new manager with experience, a feels like young talented team wanting to win. Glad to see Bochy is here & ready to win with this team.
But the talent is there for them to be good, just have to hope it all comes together. To be honest, having Bochy on your bench helps a lot too.
They will be a very different team next year.
Bruh last year alone teams in our division had to deal with this guy, Alcantara, Fried, Scherzer, Wheeler, Nola, and plenty of other great starters. Time one of them left xD
It was the smart move. I’m sure you will feel better about it in a few years. Just be glad that you got to enjoy the best pitcher in baseball since Pedro.
It’s weird since Cohen said he’s going to pay him what he wants and it’s up to degrom whether he wants to stay. Curious if it comes out that the Mets matched the offer or if deGrom didn’t give them a chance or just wanted out of NY.
I hope you have generational players! Handsome, beautiful, articulate players who are talented, and star athletes, and they get signed away! I want you to know that pain!
Yeah. But of course it would turn out that we'll have to see his fucking face game 1 most likely cause Phillies open regular season against Texas. Like c'mon. LOL.
That's taking a huge gamble that he stays fit and keeps performing until he is 39. He is a great pitcher but this contract feels like it's very risky for the team.
$37 million per year for a guy who has the best pure stuff of any starter since Randy Johnson is fine.
It’s the five years that makes me wonder wtf Rangers too.
We just saw Zach Eflin get three years 40 just to go to his hometown Tampa Bay Rays. If your not a big market and want pitching, your gonna have to add some term
Yeah the total numbers sound absurd but on a per annum basis our payroll really isn't anything crazy.
People just don't believe we should try to compete.
I love deGrom for real but the Rangers spending so much money on chronically injured players while a division rival like Oakland fields the goddamn hotdog vendors is fucking hilarious to me
Mets fans are hurting but the Mets front office did the right thing here. 5 years to a 34 year old age who hasn’t been healthy since 2020. This frees up 40+ million a year and allows them to build a deeper rotation and a solid bat. Hurts but it’s the right thing.
Yes, they need a bat. With their season on the line, they only got one goddamn hit in an elimination game.
Worry about pitching *after* fixing the lineup.
The principal owners are getting old and by general accounts are actual fans of the sport they have invested into.
I am not saying that they are selfless white knights with intentions of absolute sincerity because I have no idea. I am also not saying other ownership groups do not share a passion for the game. But there are definitely owners out there that do not give a shit about the game at all and see it purely as an investment opportunity.
So if I were worth billions, loved baseball, owned a team, and figured I was on my way out soon, I would probably throw financial caution to the wind to help my team win while I was still around to witness it.
HOLY SHIT PASSAN NUKE
This is a massive massive risk. He’s 34 with significant injury history but when healthy he’s the best pitcher in the world. 5 years at 37 per is super ballsy.
Based on the last 2 offseasons. When predicting the landing spot for the top 20 FA. Just pick the Rangers everytime, you are bound to get a handful correct.
He also got such a late career start that his workload is far less than his peers.
* deGrom: 1,696 innings
* Verlander: 2,807 innings
And when he's on the field, he's on another level.
As Mike Axisa put it:
> He’s thrown only 224.1 innings the last three seasons (partly because of the pandemic) but in those 224.1 innings he has a 42.4% strikeout rate and a 4.5% walk rate. That is *insane*. That’s “the most dominant reliever in baseball” stuff but as a starting pitcher.
If he's not staying with the Mets, at least he's not within the NL, never mind the division.
Sad as fuck but happy he got the bag he deserves. 5 years is probably more than the Mets were willing to do and I'm cool with that too.
Wish him all the best in TX.
Nah our lineup can hit and we have the farm. Obviously need pitching. Not saying this move puts in W.S. talks, but it at least gets in the conversation in playing more than 162
I need a moment alone
Me too. I’ll join you.
He said ALONE
*they’re sharing a drink they call loneliness…*
Better than drinking alone, I always say
Pretty sure Rangers fans are saying the same thing.
This is the happiest I’ve been since signing Corey Seager
The Rangers are both so serious and so unserious at the same time
At least they're trying that's more than like half the league can say lol
for real
We literally saved money for 5 years for This. We’ve been a poverty franchise since the Bautista knockout. I’m so proud that we are trying man. It feels so weird
Completely agree. I know not all the moves we’ve made will work out perfectly, but I’m just happy we’re trying to build something. Feels awesome
5 years? Feels like 11 years. Every since the last World Series, it's been this feeling of buying their time until everything falls into place. New ballpark with a roof, new manager with experience, a feels like young talented team wanting to win. Glad to see Bochy is here & ready to win with this team.
Yep :(
Our entire payroll is like 5 dollars and a few hotdogs
# LOOK AT THEM HOTDOGS!
At least they’re interesting lol
Interesting in the off-season.
What is baseball if not an optimist’s dream
I’m freaking out!
🤣
But the talent is there for them to be good, just have to hope it all comes together. To be honest, having Bochy on your bench helps a lot too. They will be a very different team next year.
true forgot about Bochy
We also brought Mike Maddox back, the pitching coach that helped us get to the WS the first time.
Fuck this division lol
Bruh last year alone teams in our division had to deal with this guy, Alcantara, Fried, Scherzer, Wheeler, Nola, and plenty of other great starters. Time one of them left xD
Haha same, we had to deal with Burnes, Woodruff, uhhh, Hendricks?
Gotta give the Rangers front office credit for spending on free agents the last two off seasons
Same people clowning them will be like "Wow Pirates/Rays/As fans deserve better". Good for the Rangers and Rangers fans.
Facts I’d rather my team spend and fail than penny pinch and fail
I feel attacked but also apathetic
Grew up as a Royals fan. I can’t tell you how much I’d rather go 60-102 with ownership spending than our traditional 60-102 with hope for draft picks
Part of me: “37 million a year when he is always injured is nuts. We dodged a bullet.” Rest of me: “I’m dead inside”
It was the smart move. I’m sure you will feel better about it in a few years. Just be glad that you got to enjoy the best pitcher in baseball since Pedro.
At least he didn’t go to ATL
Same man.
Texas is back in their fuck around and find out stage
The higher ups are trying to make the marble race a reality.
$750 mil committed to fight for 3rd place.
3rd place now can get you into the playoffs though.
I hate this division
Don’t worry. We got you
You guys still kick our butt, it doesn't even matter
Meh in two years you’ll be in your random “kick everyone’s ass in the division” phase again
Youre the only division that has done something in this boring offseason.
Exactly why I hate this division
I’ll take it. At least it’ll be fun
I'm honestly glad that the Rangers are trying to compete, somebody at least needs to pretend to want to step up to the Astros in the AL west
Man I just felt it in my bones that he wasn’t going back to the Mets.
Dude wanted the bag from the beginning and he for sure got it - hard to argue with 5/185 in a state with Texas taxes vs NY
I really think the state income tax thing gets over paid. This deal is going to include a big deferral anyway
Because he only gets 81 games without tax. In NY he got 81 games with NY tax. MLB players owe taxes in like 13 states and Canada normally.
It’s a good $10mm+ added to the deal, after tax. That’s meaningful I think.
Passan tweeted that there are no deferrals. Straight 185 for 5, with a 6th year option to make it 222 for 6
I was sure Cohen would break the bank. This is absolutely shocking for me.
It’s weird since Cohen said he’s going to pay him what he wants and it’s up to degrom whether he wants to stay. Curious if it comes out that the Mets matched the offer or if deGrom didn’t give them a chance or just wanted out of NY.
#OHH SHIT
NO NO NO NO NOOOOOO
Thank god for the balanced schedule lmao, only gotta face deGrom a maximum of 4 times, not 6 times
Damn that’s a bag. Thanks for taking him from New York lol
I hope you have generational players! Handsome, beautiful, articulate players who are talented, and star athletes, and they get signed away! I want you to know that pain!
if i had a nickel for every J named superstar who left my team in free agency, i’d have two nickels. it’s not a lot but sad that it happened twice :(
At least it’s not Atlanta
Thankful
This market is fucking crazy. We're never gonna sign a pitcher
Stove just got TURNT UP
Congrats! AL West bloodbath with Oakland as a sweat towel
You say that as if the Angels aren’t about to win 74 games
Holy shitballs this is an absolute bomb. So glad he’s out of the NL East
Yeah. But of course it would turn out that we'll have to see his fucking face game 1 most likely cause Phillies open regular season against Texas. Like c'mon. LOL.
Yeah honestly this works for me. Couldnt be much further away from us league wise.
Yea uhhh us too, phew l, sure glad he’s uh in the AL West now haha hah ha 😢
Oh.
#$185M WHAT THE FUCK
The pitcher market is going crazy this off-season
5 years is the crazy part imo
That's taking a huge gamble that he stays fit and keeps performing until he is 39. He is a great pitcher but this contract feels like it's very risky for the team.
He would have stayed with the Mets if they didn’t offer him something ridiculous like this
I’m having a hard time coming to terms with this lmao
Evidently Jacob deGrom did not
lowercase d's only here please
Fixed it. Got to get used to my new Pitching Overlords weird name
Much appreciated. Now if you could devastate the Astros with him I'd like that a lot.
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You and me both, brother
It's DeGrom pay that man his money
He beat me stlaight up
PYAH DAT MYAN HIS MYONEEEEH.
What the actual fuck.
I hate our division
The worst team has Trout and Ohtani. AL Best confirmed.
Excuse you! The worst team would love to have Trout. BUT we do have AL MVP vote getter Sean Murphy
Not for long im afraid
Rangers couldn’t get Kershaw so they opted for the other free agent HoF pitcher so uhh… sorry?
You won the karma race Also holy shit wtf rangers?
$37 million per year for a guy who has the best pure stuff of any starter since Randy Johnson is fine. It’s the five years that makes me wonder wtf Rangers too.
Well the 5 years is how you get him down to 37m AAV so yea…
Yeah both MLBTR and FanGraphs had deGrom getting 3 years. This market is clearly hotter than expected, at least on the pitching side.
Abreu got a third year from the Astros. Hot stove in full effect. Market is flaming
Hottest stuff on the menu seems to be extra years to keep the AAV down
Well the best pure stuff since Randy Johnson is why he’s getting that deal
We just saw Zach Eflin get three years 40 just to go to his hometown Tampa Bay Rays. If your not a big market and want pitching, your gonna have to add some term
That's how you get the AAV under $40M. Would you rather give him a 3 yr $150M deal? I feel like those were the rough alternatives.
How much do they have wrapped up in semien, seager and degrom?
Seager: 325 Semien: 175 Degrom: 185 That is 685 million dollars for three players over the next 10 years.
That is wild
If rosters get shortened to 3 we are gonna have a fighting chance
$685 million with the possibility of $722 million if my math is correct
Only 94 million per season. We’re pushing payroll to luxury tax according to ownership.
Fuck it, Padres decided to spend over the last few years too. Ain't our money, let it ride
Yeah the total numbers sound absurd but on a per annum basis our payroll really isn't anything crazy. People just don't believe we should try to compete.
Crazy that he's going to be making like $3-million per start.
Bold to assume he doesn’t miss time. It’ll end up being like $9 million a start.
With Steven Strausburg's injuries, someone did the math and iirc he made something like $300,000 *per pitch* last year.
Chris Young said “Scared money don’t make money”
Not my money. Let’s fucking goooo.
PASSAN ON A FRIDAY NIGHT FROM THE TOP ROPE
**HOT STOVE! ACKNOWLEDGE ME!**
Roman Reigns vs Jonah Heim confirmed
deGrom is confirmed Ucey
Who needs smackdown?
Me, I do. FEELIN UCEY TONIGHT AND SO IS DEGROM
im dead inside
Ya'll are definitely getting 1 of Verlander or Rodon now though
We might sign them too. We tried to sign 3 SS last off season, but Story backed out last minute on playing CF.
I'm starting to see where Preller's desire for an all SS team come from.
We have like 10 Shortstops in our top 30 prospect list so we could always fulfill that dream.
I love deGrom for real but the Rangers spending so much money on chronically injured players while a division rival like Oakland fields the goddamn hotdog vendors is fucking hilarious to me
This one's my favorite in the thread
Hotdog vendors are undervalued
Hot dog vendors get on base
Rangers: Y’all said we needed pitching
Mets fans are hurting but the Mets front office did the right thing here. 5 years to a 34 year old age who hasn’t been healthy since 2020. This frees up 40+ million a year and allows them to build a deeper rotation and a solid bat. Hurts but it’s the right thing.
Yes, they need a bat. With their season on the line, they only got one goddamn hit in an elimination game. Worry about pitching *after* fixing the lineup.
I hate this whole living thing
Just run it back with Scherzer and Verlander. Might as well grab JD Martinez for DH while you're at it
If I wanted to see players my own age I’d show up to softball more often
Where did the rangers get this fucking money
Bruce Bochy is paying for all of this out of pocket
Lotta money in dallas
Literally so facts. That city is insanely wealthy.
Not just Dallas, the entire metroplex is booming right now. The growth DFW is seeing is insane.
Every team has the money, it’s the willingness to spend it
I should say, where did they get all this willingness?
Sometimes you just gotta say “Fuck it, we ball”
We haven't said that in so many years
The principal owners are getting old and by general accounts are actual fans of the sport they have invested into. I am not saying that they are selfless white knights with intentions of absolute sincerity because I have no idea. I am also not saying other ownership groups do not share a passion for the game. But there are definitely owners out there that do not give a shit about the game at all and see it purely as an investment opportunity. So if I were worth billions, loved baseball, owned a team, and figured I was on my way out soon, I would probably throw financial caution to the wind to help my team win while I was still around to witness it.
HOLY SHIT PASSAN NUKE This is a massive massive risk. He’s 34 with significant injury history but when healthy he’s the best pitcher in the world. 5 years at 37 per is super ballsy.
HOLY FUCK. RANGERS FROM THE TOP ROPE
Hope and optimism. Is this what it feels like? Edit: Even if we still suck, I will be a lot more interesting in following the team next year.
I think all of us expected this, but none of us wanted to see it actually happen
I really expected him to stay tbh
Me too, this comment is me lying to myself, don’t tell anyone though
He really wants to face the murderers row that is the Oakland A's?
#**I did not have that on my off-season bingo card**
Based on the last 2 offseasons. When predicting the landing spot for the top 20 FA. Just pick the Rangers everytime, you are bound to get a handful correct.
It was my free space on my card
Hopefully the Rangers don't get Kluber'd in this deal.
As much as I want to say Lolmets I don’t think giving degrom 5 years is a smart move and Steve cohen made the right decision here.
Yeah well you lost Zach Elflin so there! *SOB CRY*
The Rays are gonna turn Zeflin into a CY young :(
No joke I kinda believe that too
Watch degrom never miss another start
Rangers are large market team
We’re so back
DeGrom is DeGrom, but my dude hasn't even pitched 30 starts between the last two seasons and he's going into his age 35 season.
Yeah I was skeptical about signing him too but fuck it I’m gonna be happy.
Just enjoy it for now!
Counterpoint: he now has Mike Maddux coaching him
He also got such a late career start that his workload is far less than his peers. * deGrom: 1,696 innings * Verlander: 2,807 innings And when he's on the field, he's on another level. As Mike Axisa put it: > He’s thrown only 224.1 innings the last three seasons (partly because of the pandemic) but in those 224.1 innings he has a 42.4% strikeout rate and a 4.5% walk rate. That is *insane*. That’s “the most dominant reliever in baseball” stuff but as a starting pitcher.
Seeeeee now I get to look at this and agree instead of hoping that he is his same dominant self.
6 years is a lot but I’m happy for Rangers fans
At least he’s not a brave?
Glad he’s out of the NL. Thank you rangers!
Sometimes you have to let your child go. Good night, king
they have become the Angels
Only if that means the Angels are no longer the Angels
Rangers broke out the cocaine again, and I love it.
As a Rangers fan, I know it’s likely to be a terrible deal but I’m gonna set aside my pessimism and be excited about what if (he stays healthy).
If anything he’ll be a big boost to the club house to further drive the winning atmosphere
FUCK
It’s probably the right call to let him go but fuck this gonna be weird
Well would you look at that My present and foreseeable future is ruined
If he's not staying with the Mets, at least he's not within the NL, never mind the division. Sad as fuck but happy he got the bag he deserves. 5 years is probably more than the Mets were willing to do and I'm cool with that too. Wish him all the best in TX.
WTF
Dipoto, don't let the Rangers one-up you like that today. Show them who's boss with a bigger signing now.
U wot mate?
Texas trying to go back 2 back off season champs
40 year old degrom gonna win a cy young trust
Wow, Bochy got his ace.
Cool. Cool cool cool. [excuse me a second ](https://i.gifer.com/U45N.gif)
Calling it now. The Mets are going win the World Series this year.
I'm going to drink, and listen to Simple Man for the next few hours.
AL best carrying the rest of the league right now
We gotchu fam 🫡
apology for poor english when were you when jacob degrom sign? i was sat at home eating dorito when phome ring ‘jacob is sign’ ‘yes’
https://i.imgur.com/TsA9Fs9.jpg
Nah our lineup can hit and we have the farm. Obviously need pitching. Not saying this move puts in W.S. talks, but it at least gets in the conversation in playing more than 162
People gonna be shocked at how decent Rangers farm is. Lots of talent