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RedSoxFan9876

Obviously Cleveland surprised people, but I think the second biggest takeaway is *Damn, poor Detroit.*


CutenessMudkip2

The fact that they were projected second terrifies me, then again I wasn't really following the off-season aside from our signings, but dear lord😂


Lux_Bellinger2024

A lot of people had detroit being way better because they went after correa, have a bunch of young talent and brought in Hinch. Who would have guessed that expecting a bunch of kids and Javy Baez wouldn't have led to anything but another lackluster season


worldspiney

They also played well especially in the second half of last year. Most people figured they could keep that up and would be improved because of the free agents brought in


IxnayOnTheXJ

I mean the Guardians are winning the division with a bunch of kids, so it’s not too crazy


Kitchen_accessories

To be fair, Cleveland is also a bunch of kids. Tito and Jose make the difference, maybe?


Lux_Bellinger2024

Clevelands development make the difference.


Bikouchu

I was deceived by the reddit hypetrain. Than again who knows for next year.


Strbrst

Javy is shit, our young players are shit (at least right now), our pitchers keep getting hurt, and I hate evrything.


High_n_tight_77

At least you finished off the corpse of the White Sox. Thanks babe ;)


Strbrst

Fuck it, at least we did *something*


DaBigBlackDaddy

believe me that's not saying much


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Futbol_Kid2112

I mean that's what happens when your entire starting rotation ends up on IR multiple times a season, and then their replacements also end up injured, and then the big name you traded for gets severe vertigo for 2/3 of the season, then your big name FA signing forgets how to hit, then your huge expectations rookie forgets how to hit, then everybody forgets how to hit.............its been a rough year. But at least Riley Greene has looked good.


scoot_roo

Was gonna say, there is hope in Riley Greene. Making all-star catches in CF every single week ever since he’s been called up


PapiSurane

They now join the annals of failed rebuilds. Hopefully the Orioles' rebuild turns out better.


OrdinaryBlob

Seems like it is so far!


Nitropotamus

Those guys are fucking scary.


Jux_

“Disrespectful honestly” lol


twentysomethinger

I don't like this 🔥 :(


tepid

Chrissy wake up!


twentysomethinger

TLR wake up!


Ferris_Wheel_Skippy

The White Sox entered this season like Lonnie (Joyce's ex-husband) entered Will's funeral. Seemed to be genuine, proved out to be a fraud


3dge-1ord

TO ALL THE NON-BELIEVERS! Especially you Bleacher Report! Way to have our back Paul Hoynes!


just-an-astronomer

Petty shit like this from actual orgs is fun as long as it's super extra like this The music had me rolling lmao


SWOsome

Well, the Guardian’s Twitter account is definitely in the running for the king of petty. I usually get a kick out of it.


theuberprophet

i got blocked by the guards twitter account like 4 years ago cause i said lindor was gonna be traded. i replied to some random persons tweet, not even the team page which means whoever the asshole was just searched a term and blocked people


SMK77

That's a clown music bro


NobleHelium

At the end there is credit listed for the music at the bottom right which is apparently called *Clowning Around*.


KratzALot

This was a solid B+ trolling, but the music and that "disrespectful honestly" caption brought it into elite status.


gatemansgc

> The music had me rolling lmao same, had to listen twice


GWayneofTerror

I AM NOT CRAZY! I am not crazy! I know the Guardians stole first place from us. I know we were 27 - 16. Eleven games over .500 in May. As if we could ever have such a collapse. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t prove it. They covered their tracks, they got that idiot Naylor to mash for them. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? They’ve done worse. That June series! Are you telling me that Pagán just happens to pitch like that? No! *They* orchestrated it! The Guardians! They *stood pat* at the *deadline*! And we got clobbered by them! And we shouldn’t have. We took them into our own ballpark! What were we *thinking*? They’ll never change. They’ll *never* change! Ever since 2000, *always* the same! Couldn’t increase payroll to keep any of their good players. But not our Dolan! Couldn’t be precious *Dolan*! Stealing them blind! And *THEY* get to win the division? What a sick joke! We should’ve stopped them when we had the chance! …And you, you *have* to stop them! You


niveknhoj

Divisional rivalries aside, this is fucking golden. Edit: The show clip to listen to under. I'm dying over here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv5yvtR5S1I&t=120s


fedchuff

"They *stood pat* at the *deadline*!" made me guffaw


Ferris_Wheel_Skippy

>"They stood pat at the deadline!" made me guffaw Great Lakes baseball. Twins didn't do anything at the deadline and got clobbered the rest of the season Brewers pulled off one of the most moronic trades i've ever seen in my life. Their season isn't over yet but man they should not have been in this position


egus

Twins actually made some moves though. To see standing pat, look at my soon to be wild card faded White Sox.


BerniesDongSquad

Twins traded for starting pitching and and a closer, their two biggest issues. Hader has an ERA over 9 with the Padres. Definitely didn't help team morale when he got moved though. Hard to call it a failure until we see what Esteury Ruiz ends up being. People shit on us for the Grisham trade and that turned out really solid.


oatmeal28

I distinctly remember their name was the Indians! Same name the pilgrims gave them! As if I could forget such a thing


afearsandwich

I'm shocked I haven't seen that scene used as a pasta more often


Mattp55

It’s just really long so some people are probably too lazy to change it all up


SamiMadeMeDoIt

I’ve been seeing it get much more play since the finale, but yeah it’s too long to really take off


Azazel_brah

Where is this from? I don't recognize it.


eunit8899

Better Call Saul


Ctownkyle23

Better Call Saul. Go get familiar with it.


ettuaslumiere

take a walk over to /r/okbuddychicanery sometime


adam7765

The part about Naylor had me fucking howling. Didn't expect to see this used outside of the BCS sub.


TheSmokedSalmon420

hell yea lmao


skoryy

Slippin' Paulie


DaTigerMan

kid named kwan:


LiteratureNearby

Waltuh


cinephile1987

Kid named Oscar


conspiracycola

Seems like nobody got the central right. I know I didn’t. However I was never disrespectful enough to call Cleveland at last place lol


penguinopph

Yeah, I definitely had the Royals at the bottom. My take was 1. Twins 2. White Sox 3. Guardians 4. Tigers 5. Royals


Adamscottd

Mine, preseason 1. White Sox 2. Guardians 3. Twins 4. Tigers 5. Royals


NJImperator

This was my list as well. Though it appears we didn’t account for TLR quite enough…


GoldenBananas21

“The greatest trick TLR ever played was convincing the world that he did not exist.”


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ErzherzogT

Cubs fan predicted the White Sox would suck, I'm absolutely shocked, shocked I say


Czmn75

I mean they could easily still end up in 3rd. Twins and Sox are only 2 games apart and play each other 6 more times.


Dtsung

With the talent they have, I always assume it’s gonna be top 3


GuardTheBases

Thank you! I totally get picking the winners of the offseason to finish ahead of us, but for gods sake we have a good farm and our FO and pitching development is the envy of the league. Its hard to be worse than the current iteration of the fuckin Royals when you have that much going for you. How anyone had us finishing below them is beyond me.


futhatsy

[I did a pretty long pre-season write up of the AL Central that looks pretty funny now](https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/tt8v15/who_is_coming_in_last_in_the_al_central_this_year/)


penguinopph

It's a net positive though just for this comment alone: >(this is paywalled for any of you broke bitches out there).


MangoMonkey22

Ngl I enjoyed reading this, but it took me a minute to get over “Steve” Kwan 😂😂 also I think he showed us what they meant when they said “good defensive instincts”


Olipod2002

Omg, thank you, that was a very entertaining read. “An everyday player at a position that hasn’t been invented yet” made me laugh very hard because it was spot on LOL I know you didn’t want to make this for other divisions, but you certainly should, and at the very least make it again for the AL Central next season, you have the talent to make it super interesting.


futhatsy

Thanks! Honestly, I wish I had more time to write longer pieces like this. I am thinking about doing some sort of pre-season preview for each of the six divisions next year, but no promises lol. But those would be of a wider scope than just "we are looking for a last place team."


redsyrinx2112

I really think a lot of people were just going off player names. A lot of these analysts haven't watched the AL Central very much. I'm not an expert on the division, but I check-in because they frustrate me with their mediocrity compared to the bloodbath we have. I thought the Twins would win the division (definitely not reaching 90 wins, though) and I figured the White Sox and Guardians would "battle" for second and miss the playoffs. >However I was never disrespectful enough to call Cleveland at last place Anyone not picking the Tigers or Royals to finish last was just crazy. This Guardians team is fun, though. I'll be rooting for them since we probably won't make it.


Hufflepuff_Baseball

Mine 1. White Sox 2. Twins 3. Tigers (very close over Guardians) 4. Guardians 5. Royals


smarjorie

I had Chicago winning in my little preseason prediction note app note but I had Cleveland in second with 83 wins so I feel pretty good about that I'll also brag about this...if the current playoff spots hold I will have correctly predicted 10 of the 12 teams. I just had Milwaukee and the White Sox instead of St. Louis and Cleveland


lemonpjb

This is honestly one of the most difficult divisions to predict year in and year out; there's very little consistency in any of the orgs, and intra divisional play is a blood bath. It's a real "last team standing wins" division.


CHONK_22

This is beautiful


JoseCansecoMilkshake

I literally bet money on Cleveland to win the division and WS. The payout odds were pretty good, so I took a shot.


canadian_cherries

Good luck 🙏🙏🙏


cumshot_josh

I'd be happy to see an AL Central team win it all. Hopefully you make a shit ton of money!


btgf-btgf

What’s disgusting tweet for a disgusting brand of baseball!


AthleteNormal

I saw a Guardian hit an infield single the other day and I threw up all over myself. When will Manfred do something?


btgf-btgf

I think he should ban infield singles!


CutenessMudkip2

*Shit*


greenpm33

Full wii baseball rules


Captain_Caveman13

Note\*: Infield singles are legal if you bunt exactly down the 3rd base line in Wii Sports.


DienekesMinotaur

Yes please


Sober_Browns_Fan

Incoming infield ground rule.


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trailblazer216

Here’s a comment from a Blue Jays fan after we took a series from them: “The Guardians play such a disgusting brand of baseball, and consistently get rewarded for it lol They’re 25th in hitting xwOBA, 17th in pitching xwOBA, have the 2nd lowest HR percentage, 2nd lowest average EV and just a +20 RD.”


QurantineLean

Tf is xwOBA?


jedi789

It’s expected weighted on base average, an all in one hitting stat that is adjusted for park, but instead of measuring the results, it measures expected results.


StreetsAhead47

Measurement of how 'good' a ball was hit essentially. It's exit velocity combined with launch angle


btgf-btgf

A blue jays fan in their sub was ranting about our disgusting brand of baseball. Our sub decided to take it for ourselves.


darkmetal505isright

To be fair to Jays fans, the OP got dragged for it in their sub too.


JRL222

Here is the full quote: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Torontobluejays/comments/wog2ty/postgame\_thread\_august\_14\_cleveland\_guardians/ikasil9/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/Torontobluejays/comments/wog2ty/postgame_thread_august_14_cleveland_guardians/ikasil9/?context=3) "The Guardians play such a disgusting brand of baseball, and consistently get rewarded for it lol They’re 25th in hitting xwOBA, 17th in pitching xwOBA, have the 2nd lowest HR percentage, 2nd lowest average EV and just a +20 RD. Credit to them, they’ve outplayed us in our games this season, but ugh."


rvasko3

I’m in nearly every Jays GDT, and I have to say I don’t recognize that username at all. Maybe the stupidity of it caused them to disintegrate and float away like a Thanos snap…?


JRL222

I just checked. Unless Thanos snapped them so he could log into their Reddit to post about baseball content, they're doing just fine right now.


rvasko3

Maybe that’s what the snapped people got snapped into: r/baseball


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starrdazedd

Well it wasn’t just the sub. There was a pretty viral tweet about it too that was actually the original source. It got blown up there then carried over to Reddit.


JRL222

It was the same guy. Same user name, same favorite team, same Twitch link. [https://twitter.com/twitchejnave/status/1558899369977548800](https://twitter.com/twitchejnave/status/1558899369977548800).


starrdazedd

Nah it was a different tweet. The other one had a couple thousand likes


Craig_the_Intern

the rotating “😂” got me


zdbdog06

Seriously though what kind of moron gives Cleveland a 0.0% chance to win the division lmao


Ferris_Wheel_Skippy

i mean let's be honest, a whole lot of "baseball experts" on ESPN or Fox Sports or whatever are a bunch of morons


oneeighthirish

White Sox homers like me who were high off of not sucking in 2020 or 2021 like we did basically the entire decade prior did. I dunno what was wrong with actual analysts who are supposed to know their shit and were that wrong though.


I_Nut_In_Butts

Holy shit I love it


dudenotcool

That was fun


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Ferris_Wheel_Skippy

the music is what puts it over the top for me lol


Juche_WRLD

Having Cleveland in 3rd is reasonable IMO. Having them in 4th behind Detroit was a stretch. 5th behind KC is inexcusable.


redsyrinx2112

I had them a little over .500 going back and forth with the White Sox for second place. I thought the Twins would win the division around 87-75. I thought the people picking Detroit to do anything good were insane.


Redbubble89

I thought they would have 85 wins but finish 3rd. I assumed a more competitive central. White Sox, Twins getting Correa, and Tigers buying.


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This is a fair accessment and could have been true. But once CLE beat MIN 7 out of 8 and CWS 3 out of 4, last week both of those teams have been playing absolutely defeated.


AdmiralAngry

It is impossible for me to hate this team.


AGeneralDischarge

Might sound off the cuff, but I hope that the folks in the CLE area that *still* aren't over the name change get the fuck over it. This group made the playoffs first damn year. Be happy we have playoff baseball in Cleveland. Go fuckin Guards.


DoctorCokter

the logo is sick idk why you wouldn't want to hop on the Guard Train


jeckles96

I just call them the G’s most of the time


Donald_W_Gately

When you can no longer be a. . . silent G.


GoldenBananas21

Las Gana


rvasko3

The Guard Squard?


avery-secret-account

I like this name and think the rebranding worked out a lot better than the Washington Commanders


GuardiansFan1932

I’m glad to hear someone else likes the name choice! I certainly do!


SWOsome

I agree, go Guards


mootmahsn

I agree, go Guards


SomsOsmos

Anyone still upset about the name change hasn’t been able to name a single player on the team in the last decade.


penguinopph

As an Illinois alum, that's how I view people that are still angry about Chief Illiniwek 17 years later..


Ferris_Wheel_Skippy

as a fellow Illinois alum, i'm with you too on this They actually got rid of the Chief my freshman year of college (ffs, that was 17 years ago already??) and I remember some nimrod in one of my classes was arguing that now "they" (never specified who "they" were btw lol) were going to also go after Notre Dame and West Virginia for their mascots. I rolled my eyes so hard into the back of my head after hearing that, I think my TA saw it and snickered a little bit


Cleveland_Guardians

I was just saying to my brother "maybe now the boomers on Facebook won't make every fucking post about the name," but we know they still will...


Ferris_Wheel_Skippy

in all seriousness though, how many people are still upset about the name change? I feel like the only reason they seem like the majority is because they make so much noise about it on social media while the rest of the world actually have lives and have either moved on, or embraced it


Cleveland_Guardians

"I feel like the only reason they seem like the majority is because they make so much noise about it on social media" Absolutely a fair point, and to answer your question unsatisfyingly, I don't know. It's just annoying that the answer is "enough to railroad every team post I see in Facebook" (though I don't view every post, so take that how you will). I know the loud social media types aren't indicative of a fanbase, but people often take it that way, sadly. And when your ha ha funny post about the mustard hotdog getting demoted to the minors has tons of people going "Yeah, hilarious. Now bring back the old name. You can still do it. It'll save the franchise," it starts to make you question it and feel embarrassed to follow the same team as these idiots.


darkmetal505isright

They can keep the fuck out of the ticket lines for those playoff games too.


Veserius

They probably won't because they don't care about people who aren't themselves


nicklePie

Yeah fuck em. I hope they’ve missed how fun the guards are. Not like they’re real baseball fans anyway


Ferris_Wheel_Skippy

>Not like they’re real baseball fans anyway exactly they're not. they're just Trumpists who need to convince themselves that America is stacking the odds against them (spoiler alert: that's not actually happening)


BropolloCreed

I'm just saying, the year the Devil Rays became The Ray's, they win the WS. Just sayin'.... Edit: not the WS, they just got to it and lost


browdogg

Lost*


Alphasim

There was a joke that year I remember clearly: "What do you get when you exorcise the devil out of Tampa? An AL championship."


Ferris_Wheel_Skippy

people who can't get over their precious little mascots named after marginalized groups of people really are the fucking worst I went to Univ of Illinois. Honestly the pro-Chief Illiniwek fans there are a huge reason why I don't cheer for them in basketball or football anymore. Granted that's not a hard sacrifice lmfao but still...


LingonberryRum

Love this brand of petty


Atraktape

The funniest kind of petty "Yall we're talking all this shit but now LOL"


GoogsL

Terry Francona is so goated IMO. I know the players stepped up for sure, but hes such a fantastic leader.


appleavocado

This is awesome. Y'all get all the fucking smoke.


robdamanii

We'll crumble any day now....


Wafersmash

If they win the series DM me, I'll find a way to buy you a beer, or coffee, of something lol


JordanSchor

Cleveland's got some top tier social media managers


xAyjay18

Respect. Love the Guards tbh.


WhiskeyTango_33

It's the AL Central, no one take us seriously. *Check flair* Or it might just be us.


poobicus

this is unbelievable fucking hilarious. tito poppin up had me gigglin


jackhole91

I'm convinced half the people who thought they'd be terrible were just mad that they didn't spend money. Or at least that's the only thing i can think of that would make you put them below the Royals and Tigers before the season. Seems like there's a large contingent of fans who think overall records and payroll should lineup perfectly every year and when a team doesn't spend, they just deserve to lose or whatever.


PBFT

Does anyone else feel like the Guardians were given way too much clout? -White Sox & Twins fans, March 2022


huck99

Thank Tony La Russa.


pnmartini

Everyone in Cleveland should contribute $1 to the “bring back LaRussa fund”


Sober_Browns_Fan

Not bad for a rebuilding year.


schandle0213

Tito is the Manager of the Year. Hands down.


HotpieTargaryen

Steven Kwan, Best Buy, 1 TB SSD


CutenessMudkip2

Hopefully they can small ball their way through the playoffs and face us and it'll be a complete luck disaster😂


unMuggle

Break the record for infield hits in a world series game 1


Fools_Requiem

Just like in 2015? Royals played a similar style except with a higher focus on the bullpen. Their batters were impossible to strike out, none of them were easy outs, and their pitching was stingy.


creynolds722

[Dude said we're just lucky and won't win the division and to save the comment but now he's suspended so I can't gloat to him](https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesotatwins/comments/vihmaq/game_thread_guardians_3528_twins_3831_june_22_2022/idfbpqv/)


televisionchampion

Of course, like everyone else, I also had the White Sox winning the central, seemed like a pretty safe bet at the time. However, I’m not at all shocked by their failure, I didn’t believe in them in the slightest as an actual October threat. Hall of Fame troll, congrats Cleveland


Mr_Shickadance

$48mm payroll. We all thought they’d be trash.


TJR843

I mean any day now folks are gonna believe us when we say we have one of if not the best front office and scouts in baseball.


Greenlytrees

It's the player development that doesn't get enough credit, honestly.


TJR843

Also true


Dirty_Virmling

Yeah we take a lot of guys most teams wouldn't look at twice and turn them into contributors.


Ctownkyle23

We demand to be taken seriously.


broand26

Imagine how good they would be if they had a big league payroll.


FelixtheSax

Whoever put that together deserves a raise. I’m still severely annoyed that we traded Fucking Clase and Delino for Kluber, only for him to pitch a grand total of one inning, but damn if it hasn’t been fun to watch Clase tear everyone apart.


Dirty_Virmling

I'm always a bit worried about relief prospects, it's just such a volatile position. But Clase is really on another level.


brbmycatexploded

Who in the god damn fuck was projecting the **2022 Royals** to be better than the Guardians??? That’s laughable lmao


fear865

Rake em Guardians SMM!


Family_Gardener

Petty, my favorite Dick


Batman-and-Hobbes

[Shout out to this guy who was very wrong and super cocky about it](https://ibb.co/85rSqNN)


shigs21

i'm more curious how this team will do in the playoffs


avery-secret-account

Cool. Now do the Reds


xbucs_19

Wow I had Cleveland third but some of these predictions…


throwawaynmb69

Guardians are my pick for World Series this year. They’ve been red hot and they have some of the best pitching for the playoffs. I think they could make a deep run. Now that I’ve said it, they’ll probably get swept first round.


Fools_Requiem

"They wrote us off--We ain't write back, though."


acidbatterydude

hey thats baseball for you


NoahGMD

Really happy to see Cleveland get in. My preseason predictions were: 1. White Sox 2. Guardians 3. Twins 4. Tigers 5. Royals


whentheworldwasatwar

I knew those people were clowning when they all put the Sox so high and the gourds so low. Sox have been .500 for a year.


Cautrica1

They wrote me off but I ain’t write back


Qoppa_Guy

Guardians rose up and took it personally


goboking

I'm happy for Francona. And Straw, naturally.


AL3XD

RIP BOZO energy


ray_0586

Works just as well as a Chicago White Sox roast.


hipsterdufus84

Props to you guys. Im rooting for you.


lightningphoenix69

Damn, I didn’t know Robert Saleh also managed the Guardians.


Victorystar0

That was great. Guardians have a great media guy.


From_Adam

*Tips cap.*


edoreinn

I LOVE MY TEAM!


HungLikeALemur

It’s not that we didn’t take y’all seriously, we just don’t take the AL Central seriously


monalisasnipples

You love to see this


CSGO_Bangkok

Non-American here : I noticed right winged anti SJW on YouTube attributing the Guardian's early season low attendance to "go woke, go broke", and it felt disingenuous, especially cause if was likely due to fans perceiving the team wouldn't be competitive. Now that they are, I wonder whether attendance has improved and whether this right wing trolls will eat crow and admit it or ignore it.


lordcorbran

We always have low attendance early in the season because we have an outdoor stadium off the shore of Lake Erie and it’s like 40-50 degrees with a chance of snow for the first month of the season.


Fools_Requiem

Cleveland social media game is still on point.


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This.... This is art


KingPengy

watch them get swept out of the playoffs


I_Nut_In_Butts

Still would be further than the Twins got


MasterMentorJr

Too be fair everyone expected Jose Ramirez to be traded


Juche_WRLD

>A GUARDIANS SCOUT HAS BEEN FOLLOWING KIRK AROUND CAMP.