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What is your Villa hot take?

What is your Villa hot take?

PM_ME_UR_NAKED_CALLS

We haven't even begun our injury crisis


Creakster

We’re a bit of a mess at the moment and don’t really have an identity. I think we’ll struggle this season but not threatened by relegation


JimmyTheKiller

Considering we have essentially just had a massive rebuild because Jank Gerbish left, and we have half the team out, the mess is normal. The dust will settle.


notoriously_late

Jore Garnish


moviesNdrawingsGuy

Jimmy gringlebus


JMStitch

How very Harry Potter of you


norfolkench4nts

Jackoff Gream


Hydracronis

I think Archer could potentially be better than both Barry *and* Young. His finishing is absolutely clinical.


Moothead3

You have to remember he's 12-18 months older than those two as well.


DickMoveDave

Mine is that Young will have a better career then Barry.


hazardthicc

Matty Cash will shave his head before the start of next season


jjgill27

Or jet off to Turkey for a hair transplant at the end of the season.


ScreamingLordSutch57

Good call!


smay1989

Loool i could see his bald spot from the stands the poor bastard


TroopersSon

A 10th place finish would be a good season for us. Edit: I'm quite surprised to see this has so many upvotes. Obviously it's not a hot take. I thought the general consensus here was anything less than challenging for Europe equals a bad season.


jamesthevillan

I agree with this so much. Although I’m desperate to see us break into Europe having two seasons consistently there or there abouts would be really good for us especially considering the off season and beginning of the season we have had so far.


AstonVanilla

Completely. I see the competition for top 10 and there are better teams than us. Wolves, Everton, West Ham, Leicester, Leeds... we would be hard pressed to finish above those guys. I'd take 10th to 15th this season happily. It's a long term project.


ScreamingLordSutch57

Well we should be on par with Leeds and Everton, but point taken


jackgrealish

We are going to look awful for at least a few more weeks on the pitch - we haven't got our proper first team, we haven't found our new identity, and we have some bloody tough matches coming up. I think we'll be firmly bottom half at the midway point of the season.


sneb138

I think we’ll start shakey but start picking up points in December and the new year. But there’ll be some ranting and raving from the fans for these first couple of months.


Drogalov

We're a long term plan and it'll probably be 2 or 3 more seasons before we start seeing success


jjgill27

Someone here a week or so again (so technically this is their hot take) suggested that as a result of his success, Martinez’s ego may be a little out of control this season and lead to mistakes and issues when it comes to club v country. I really hope they are wrong, but fear they may be right.


JimmyTheKiller

He may seem inflated on the pitch but all you need to do is see/read any recent interviews with him to put yourself at ease. He is a very grounded, humble and professional man with almost no traces of ego. On the pitch cocky goalkeepers are the best goalkeepers as long as they have the skills to back it up IMO.


jjgill27

I hope you’re right. I see he kitted out his home training room villa style too, which was reassuring, but all this stuff with the international break and other big clubs being interested has me rattled.


Fenderbyname

Ings and Watkins are the new Ferdinand and Shearer


iamabigpotatoboy

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realtordyl

I think we beat Chelsea and get this season started!!!


im_on_the_case

Too many of our fans are fucking dickheads and their negative, shortsighted, cynical attitudes will continue to prevent the club from ever returning to its rightful standing by undermining players, coaches and owners. All teams have a few but we have more than most. Any Villa player going through a bad patch or short on confidence cannot count on the "support" to help lift them out of it. Instead they will receive overwhelming abuse to compound their issues.


iamabigpotatoboy

I think that's just a football fan thing in general especially on the internet. look at the takes on r/soccer or r/premierleague. fucking abysmal takes


ScreamingLordSutch57

Certainly true when Barkley tried to return to form from injury. The fanbase burried him.


notoriously_late

Imagine if the stands would have been filled...


ScreamingLordSutch57

OK couldn't help but feel he would have benifited by a little more support. He had it in him, but lost his mojo after injury


notoriously_late

I still think he had the worst case of Covid within the team. He just looked so off when the team restarted.


ScreamingLordSutch57

A very odd player if judged by his time with us. In the eyes of many went from brilliant (Liverpool thrashing) to crap in a season although personally I never thought he was crap, but there were so many negative comments. Happiest playing with his mate Grealish, so if we'd signed him it couldn't of worked out. Then my only major grievance, he didn't seem to ever want to tackle. He'd run alongside a player and harras, but never really put his foot in. Maybe scared of a reoccurring injury. It's not something you tend to see with Premiership (or almost any level) footballers.


STK__

Every single England team for the next 20 years will have a Villa player


sneb138

The 8000 of us on the waiting list for season tickets deserve to have the corners of the stadium filled in with stands.


AaronStudAVFC

I think the general fanbase seems to be expecting Sanson to be the ‘new’ signing that will reinvigorate us, but I still don’t know what he offers outside of an easy yellow card based on his initial performances.


xxGamma

I'm actually a big fan of Sanson and think he'll overtake McGinn. I used to watch a but if Ligue 1 and have played an awful lot of FM. He's a very solid midfielder and imo is a more well rounded version of McGinn. Great on the ball, good at defending and can score a hell of a goal. He has CL/Europa experience and reads the game well. I have high hopes that him, McGinn and Luiz would be a very solid midfield 3.


AaronStudAVFC

I do hope you’re right and I’ll admit I have not seen Sanson outside of a Villa shirt, but what I did see wasn’t particularly impressive. It’s more than possible he just needed to adapt though.


xxGamma

Yeah that's fair enough. I really hope he proves me right rather than you ;)


AaronStudAVFC

Happy to lose that argument haha!


AaronStudAVFC

Happy to lose that argument! Haha


Borja_Baston

OG Ronaldo looks like a fat Trezeguet


tea_anyone

Let’s give trezeguet *that* haircut and find out!


bambinoquinn

Lambert was the worst manager in my lifetime who did longer than a year (putting the time frame in because I'm sure Eric Black is actually the worst). I love villa and always have but he made me like us less. He was such a prick, the football was terrible and we lost alot of good youngsters under him. I'll never forgive how he treated Albrighton now its all out in the open. He takes the credit for benteke when mcleish went out to see him a number of times rhe year before. He added nothing to the club and started the downwards trajectory that ended with us in the championship


iamabigpotatoboy

I will go and say remi garde was worse. at least Lambert kept up in the PL with zero funding for a few seasons.


NorthVilla

Remi Garde was given more than a sinking ship.


TheKillerToast

100%


[deleted]

I think we could be sitting on 9-10 points going into November which is pretty poor/scary.


schmidts

Villa have miraculously recovered from a run of form, the type of which has seen other historically significant teams resigned to lower tier football forever. Our progress since returning to the league has been exceptional, and only appears poor because of deluded goal setting based on a historically brilliant past. We'll do well this season and finish in the top half in what is arguably the most competitive league the world has seen since the turn of the century.


maddp9000

El Gazhi starts for Holland in the first game of the World Cup


Kanedauke

McGinn isn’t good enough for where we want to be. His passing is bad for a midfield (often simple passes), his defending isn’t good outside of pressing, he loses the ball far to often. He’ll often shoot from 30 yards rather than playing someone in. He was really inconsistent last season, more bad than good imo and needed replacing in the summer.


Frosty_Parsnip

Player performance is largely about systems. McGinn is a dynamo, he's a class support player. We're currently playing him as a six which just isn't his position.


Kanedauke

He’s a midfielder that can’t pass or keep the ball well enough


AJmac15

But that just isnt true


Kanedauke

https://fbref.com/en/players/90f91999/John-McGinn 77% passing accuracy puts him as one of the worst midfielders for passing. It’s true


CurtHam4

Doesn't tell the whole story, from watching him last season he attempts many more risky passes than a lot of other midfielders


Kanedauke

https://imgur.com/a/WZgDhk6 Luiz passing in every range is much better. More accurate long passing https://imgur.com/a/2WBTKcU this is McGinn, his short and medium range are really poor without the long range dragging it down to much. He’s poor at passing in general. You can’t be a top half team with a midfielder giving the ball away this often. I watched him last season messing up easy passes no matter what the range.


Aesorian

You're absolutely right It's why Tomas Soucek (76.9% pass completion in 2020/21) will never be good enough for a CL team Or James Madison (77.3%) or Kevin De Bruyne (76%) or Bruno Fernandez (74.6%) or Perreria (the one that everyone wanted us to buy who only had a 71.8%) It's **almost** like players who make a lot of risky passes in an attempt to link attack to defense have a poor pass completion % - colour me surprised McGinn's no where near a perfect player, but to suggest he isn't good enough for a team chasing a top ten/European finish because of his _pass completion %_ is fucking absurd *Edit:* all stats were from last season *Edit 2:* McGinn's short and medium passing is essentially as good as players like Fernandes and Grealish, while his short passing was basically identical to Anguissa (someone who so many people on here were absolutely creaming themselves when it was suggested we get him)


Kanedauke

McGinn played as a 6 mostly last season, a 6 shouldn’t have such terrible pass accuracy. Rice, ndidi, Fred, Partey, Xhaka, McTominay, Højbjerg and Bissouma all have better passing. What xA are Bruno, KDB and Maddison getting compared to McGinn? How many assists are they getting for those risky passes compared to him? Risk vs reward? If McGinn was getting 15 assists a season I’d agree with you. His xA was 3.5 from giving the ball away that much. Bruno’s was 16.


Aesorian

I do love how you've completely ignored the fact I mentioned Soucek first - you know the actual player who plays in the exact same position and didn't get 15 Assists last season You know Soucek who's xA was half of McGinns and had 5 less assists You know Soucek who made 24 less key passes i the same number of games You know Soucek who made almost 80 less passes into the final third It's almost - and stop me if you think I'm jumping to conclusions here - that McGinn is a solid midfielder, with his flaws, when compared to other players in his position and that focusing on his Passing % is, if I can be so bold as to quote myself: >fucking absurd


Kanedauke

Anguissa is much better defensively than McGinn and a much better ball carrier. That’s why people wanted him. I pointed out a number so reasons why McGinn isn’t good enough. His passing is one of them. What area of the pitch are Grealish and Bruno passing short and medium in? The final third. McGinn wouldn’t be in such a hard area to pass in.


Aesorian

Ooo I'm sorry. I didn't realise that context and and tactics mattered now. >[You can’t be a top half team with a midfielder giving the ball away this often.](https://www.reddit.com/r/avfc/comments/pkceg0/what_is_your_villa_hot_take/hc35f74/) > [He’s a midfielder that can’t pass or keep the ball well enough](https://www.reddit.com/r/avfc/comments/pkceg0/what_is_your_villa_hot_take/hc2wen1/) Unless that isn't a thing that you said literally a couple of hours ago of course. Also, it's worth adding that in terms of being disposed per 90 he's exactly the same as Tielemans (0.9) and in terms of poor touches he's the same as KDB, Maddison and Kane (1.8), you know those players who are notoriously poor on the ball. I'm sure those are all players you would *hate* to see at the club Unless of course this is one of **those** posts where stats only matter if they back up your opinion, but it would be incredibly poor form of me to assume that someone who merely hours ago suggested that systems don't matter and no other context is needed would **ever** suggest such a thing


WeedAlmighty

Already agreed with you before the stats just from watching him, I know fans love him and he has been great for us but if we want to challenge for Europe we need an upgrade, I much prefer Luiz, having Luiz and someone like Bissouma in a 2 man midfield I think we would outplay anyone outside the top 5.


Kanedauke

That’s who I would have gone for this summer.


purpleshoewhoru

I've got a feeling the men up top agree, hence the links with midfielders - JWP, Rafinha, Mckennie etc


Kanedauke

Gregg Evans said once our £25m bid for JWP got declined we just gave up attempting to get a Cm/DM in. It was really disappointing how poorly out transfer window and targets were planned out.


bizzyd666

What? We got Buendia and Bailey in pretty early because we knew where we needed improving up top. We didn't go in for another midfielder because the ones we wanted weren't moving. We don't need to buy someone for the sake of getting someone in. They need to be an improvement on what we have and not put off youth development. Personally I think we got it right, if the player we want isn't available move on.


Kanedauke

Buendia seemed planned. Bailey and Ings felt knee jerk because Grealish left. They had JWP as a target and not another single midfielder. The youth aren’t DM’s, they are all attacking midfielders. That’s just poor planning imo.


bizzyd666

Bailey was rumoured for a few weeks before the signing so I don't think that was, Ings perhaps. We have 6 midfielders fighting for 2 or 3 spots. Unless there is someone who offers what we want and is an improvement on what we have why bother? We can't stockpile players the way Man City and Chelsea can.


Kanedauke

Do you think there’s no midfielders out there that wouldn’t be an improvement on Luiz or McGinn defensively? Anyone that watched us the second half of last season could see the midfield wasn’t right.


bizzyd666

Of course there are. But ones that want to come to us and are reasonable price wise? That's the more relevant question.


Kanedauke

Do you not think it bad planning to bid on JWP at probably half of what Southampton would want? They never would accept an embarrassing bid like that. Like we told arsenal fans it was embarrassing they thought they could get Grealish for £60-70m The French league is on its knees financially, we should have tested teams over there for some of their players. Bruno Guimarães was rumoured available £40m. We could have tried to get Bissouma. We just didn’t try to get anyone. That was more important than bringing in Ings imo. But we could have done both.


DickMoveDave

Let's not take what Gregg Evans says and treat it as fact. He wouldn't know anything about Villas plans.


Kanedauke

That’s a fair point


Sbladen995

Mcginn isn’t utilised correctly IMO. Watch him for Scotland, he’s so good at providing pressures high up the pitch, winning the ball back and carrying it forward.


Kanedauke

What level of opposition is Scotland playing? He’s not playing prem level teams.


Sbladen995

He also plays in the 10 for Scotland. He’s far better as a unorthodox pressing 10.


Kanedauke

If we were playing against the opponents Scotland did yeah he probably could. But we aren’t. He hasn’t got the technical ability to play as a 10 in the prem, his touch and passings isn’t good enough. El Ghazi looked like Ronaldo against Barrow for example. He too isn’t good enough for us in the prem.


Akeem_of_Zamunda

He's not good enough to be playing as a 10 in the PL


ScreamingLordSutch57

England!


xxGamma

I honestly think come end of the season Sanson will be ahead of him. I share your opinion but not as firmly. Think McGinn is best as a 10 but doesn't have the quality to be a premier league 10 so we use him as a sort of engine/bruiser midfielder.


Kanedauke

Another person pointed out he plays as a 10 for Scotland. But he can play there because Scotland are playing bad teams compared to the prem. I’m not saying he’s shit or anything like that. He’s just not good enough in any specific attribute to make him a great prem midfielder. Just has a good workrate and good moments in a game. From his time in France Sanson was supposed to be that kind of box to box midfielder we needed. Now I’d prefer we got a midfielder that’s more defensively solid.


xxGamma

Agreed. I think for now we need to play a midfield 3 with Sanson, Luiz, McGinn as we don't have an out and out 6 to play a 4-2-3-1.


Kanedauke

I struggle to see how we can play a 3 man midfield with Watkins and Ings. Deans got his work cut out with this squad.


xxGamma

Yeah I guess, but I'd like to see us play a similar system to Liverpool. Watkins and Bailey as inside forwards either side of Ings. Not as wingers, but almost like left and right strikers just Infront of Ings who's like a false 9. Both Watkins and Bailey like cutting in on their strong foot (Watkins Vs LPool, goal 2). Then a midfield of 2 of McGinn/Buendia/Sanson next to Luiz. I know Buendia hasn't really played in a midfield 3, but I think it'd suit his skillset nicely and would get him on the ball deeper allowing him to release the front 3 quicker. So sort of a Watkins Bailey \Ings/ Sanson - Luiz - Buendia Targett - Mings - Konsa - Cash Martinez The big difficulty here would be allowing our fullbacks the freedom that TAA/Robertson get to provide the width as we Luiz is not Fabinho and isn't as good cleaning up/breaking down a counter if we are caught out and we've shown them how embarrassing it can look if it goes wrong. I just don't think we play a 4-4-2, as the players we have will make it more like a 4-2-4 imo.


Kanedauke

I like the idea, it’s just if it works in real life.


xxGamma

Indeed. I personally think signing Ings was an odd, unnecessary signing, would rather have gone for Alvarez who would cover striker/winger. But here we are.


Kanedauke

Same feeling for Ings. I like him, he’s class but he wasn’t really needed. I would preferred if we bought players to improve the system we were playing. 4231 Watkins Bailey Buendia Traore Luiz new DM That for me would have made this season easier after losing Grealish. Now we’ve lost our best player, got to bed players in and find a system that plays to our strengths.


xxGamma

Yeah it's an odd situation to be in, if we really wanted a 4-4-2, McNeil would have been a "must- buy" for me. I obviously prefer Bailey as a player, but he isn't a midfielder he's a winger/striker. Agree on a new DM, definitely lack bite in midfield too. But, I do feel we have a better squad than last year.


SpaceboyMcGhee

>Another person pointed out he plays as a 10 for Scotland. But he can play there because Scotland are playing bad teams compared to the prem. Yeah, the fact he went away for an international break, scored 2 against the Faroe Islands (THE FUCKING FAROE ISLANDS!) and suddenly this received wisdom appeared amongst our fanbase that if we weren't playing him as a 10 we were underutilizing him was absolutely stupefying. Personally I think he does have a place as an 8 in a 3-man midfield where his energy and running is most effective, but as a 10 or a 6 I just don't think he's technically good enough for where we want to be, his touch is just a little too sloppy too often to be playing in tight spaces on the pitch. That said that's no great indictment of McGinn, there's a reason the vast majority of teams don't play with a 10 in modern football, unless you've got a Bruno Fernandes (which most teams don't) why try to create from the most congested area of the pitch?


bambinoquinn

If we sold him he'd go to a team higher up the table, likely a team in Europe. Man utd and Liverpool have both expressed an interest. Disagree he was more bad than good, he was incredible from the start til the covid outbreak.


bizzyd666

As part of a midfield 2, I agree.


Kanedauke

I don’t think he offers that much in a 433 as an 8. Everyone said out midfield 3 of him, Ramsey and Luiz played well against Newcastle but we barely created a chance against them and struggled to maintain possession. He’s not a top half prem midfielder. I really like him as a bloke and his passion but he’s not good enough.


bizzyd666

As a 3, if free to press high and make runs to the box, and without the need to worry about defensive discipline he has plenty to offer. As a 2, it takes too much away and he isn't good at what's needed from that role.


Kanedauke

I can’t see how we do that with the likes of Buendia, Bailey, Ings and Watkins. The 3 man midfield gets the best out McGinn but less out the team imo. He’s not good enough to build around like that, you struggle to find a CM with passing accuracy lower than him, 77%. That’s mental given how deep he was playing last season. Without Grealish we couldn’t progress the ball through midfield or keep the ball for long periods. McGinns shortcomings played a massive part in that.


bizzyd666

Nope our current forwards don't lend to a 433 but our midfield does .


Kanedauke

Bit of a mess. I’m glad we’ve got Ings but I’d rather we’d have spent with a specific system in mind. If we are going to play 2 up top we need better midfielders. I’m interested to see what dean does once everyone’s fit.


bizzyd666

Yeah Ings is quality but not sure it's the best fit, although time will tell.


ScreamingLordSutch57

He's invested in creative players that are expecting to play on a regular basis, that forces us into 2 upfront I'm pleased to say. Two upfront will mean more goals. The opposition will need a better game plan than stick three on Grealish. Goals will come from all over the pitch this season.


Kanedauke

I just don’t see how we can play 2 up top with our midfielders


BrumieBlues

Yes point taken. I think he has to, because of the quality of Ings and Watkins. Neither will be happy on the bench. Might mean some high scoring games, the occasional 4:4 draw:-). I also think that why we could be in for another midfielder in January, like the American lad at Juventus.


MotoMkali

He's pressing is honestly atrocious as well. He is our teams biggest weakness atm.


Colmftw16

This isn’t true at all I don’t get how he is becoming a scapegoat


Kanedauke

https://imgur.com/a/t0LNk0U He runs a lot but his pressing is mediocre


sanszooey

https://fbref.com/en/players/90f91999/John-McGinn FBref have his Pressing as pretty average


bananacat

Look at Kevin de Bruynes pass completion on that site, it’s worse than McGinns


Kanedauke

KDB gets 20 assists a season


GhandiHadAGrapeHead

The weird thing is that outside of luiz id say hes the most capable of a crazy good pass, he has just stopped doing it so often


Kanedauke

No, I agree he has a good eye for a pass. But he’ll also mess up a simple 10 yard pass in our own half. That’s why his passing accuracy is so awful


Kanedauke

Him charging out after CB’s leaving a massive hole behind him is a problem. Doug gets stranded in midfield on his own two often.


MotoMkali

Yep. Often times Luiz had to defend 3 players in midfield last season with Barkley and McGinn not tracking back


Kanedauke

That first Leeds game was terrible for that.


MotoMkali

I think about half the goals we conceded directly came from something like that.


spreadyacheeks

The Jink Gobrish joke is not funny. It wasn’t funny the first time nor the 8 millionth time.


Moothead3

Mike Clubb was funny when it was first posted but yeah, the joke got old fast.


spreadyacheeks

Actually yeah, I did laugh quietly to myself at Mike Club. That was when the joke peaked. Every Joe Goldstein joke I see now gets a downvote for trying to get easy Karma / not being original / being cringey


jjgill27

I’m still okay with it, tbf.


DickMoveDave

Martinez won't be here next season.


Fenderbyname

Head turned by Atletico


DickMoveDave

I think the Atletico rumours are made up slow news day. But there will be some big teams in for him if he has a similar season to last season.


ScreamingLordSutch57

I think we'll lack consistency depending on who's fit and be up and down the league like a yo yo. I think eventually, we'll finish strong and be seen as a team it's hard to beat.


planga_van_cartier

JPB is better than Sancho, but probably it's a common knowledge now


britpop1970

I don’t think Dean is gonna make it


SG_Villain

The second half of our first season under David O'Leary was the most exciting time to be a Villa fan in the PL era. -Some great wins in the league: 5-0 vs Leicester, 4-0 away at Wolves, 3-2 against Chelsea, late winners against Boro and Pompey -Good League cup run beating Chelsea in quarters and almost pulling back after being 5-2 down to Bolton in semis -Loads of youth/homegrown players getting game time - Vassell, Moore brothers, Barry, Hendrie, Hitzlesperger, Samuel, Whittingham, Ridgewell -Juan Pablo Angel banging them in again and Hitzlesperger popping up with screamers every so often -Dublin at centre back but still scoring bicycle kicks Believe it or not, it's the closest we've come points wise to qualifying for the European cup since we won it (that includes when we nearly won the league in 92/93 but finished 2nd 10 points off top which was the only qualifying place back then) - we were only 4 points off Liverpool in 4th in 2003/04


Snowssnowsnowy

I hate Americanisms.


Fenderbyname

See if he can goal the ball with this shot on the 20 metre box


hazardthicc

oooo he's won a pennant kick


Hydracronis

Meaning?


hazardthicc

"hot take"


Hydracronis

Ah, guess I didn’t know that was an American phrase


Top_Agent868

I’ve been disappointed so far with Matty Cash. Last season, of the back 4, I’d say he was the weakest link a lot of the time (although not all the time) and that’s after ignoring the games where Traore couldn’t be arsed to defend which absolves Cash of some of the blame when he’s 2vs1 and struggles to keep the opposition out. As we have a left-wing bias in our attack it means that Cash doesn’t get as much opportunity to attack but even when he does I think I’ve still been a bit underwhelmed. And if he’s not being relied upon to attack you’d expect him to be rock solid in defence, which he hasn’t really been. Probably being a bit harsh on him though, I hope this season our attacks are more spread out so that he gets a chance to join the attack more.


Kanedauke

Too many hand balls lol. That was his second season as a full back and first season in the prem. Here’s hoping he has a second season like Targett


pyramid-teabag-song

That's not a hot take. That's just unlikely given previous performances and trends.


MotoMkali

I mean el ghazi scored 10 goals in 18 games worth of minutes and half of those minutes came without Jack. Very lielly in my opinion el ghazi hits 10 again this season. And if he plays a lot of minutes he could hit maybe 15-20 region depending on how many pens we get.


Hydracronis

I could definitely see El Ghazi get to 15


DickMoveDave

Honestly I don't think he plays once (if) we get a full strength squad. If there are injuries and he plays a lot he'll get 10+. I just hope he starts adding assist to his game.


Fenderbyname

People on here slate him. I think he's a good player, gets goals, just sometimes shoots when he could pass. But he's not scared to shoot.


DickMoveDave

He just needs to add assists and better build up play.


BohrInReddit

Here’s mine: Konsa sucks as right back (esp when our right back is tasked to provide width for our midfield) and if Cash is unavailable I’d prefer Young to deputise there than Konsa. Even if both Targett and Cash unavailable I’d rather see Hause / Mings left and Young right (can’t say anything about Tuanzebe as right back currently time will tell)


smay1989

Didnt Tuanzebe play RB a few times in the championship? I remember him playing pretty well there, we are blessed at the back with mings/Konsa/Hause/Tuanzabe all being beasts


PlugAnThat

Stilyan Petrov was average at best


MrAlf0nse

I thought that, but when we lost him, there was a big hole in the middle of the team


DickMoveDave

I love him as a person but he came in as a goal scoring attacking mid but wasn't good or fast enough so ended up as a defensive mid. Did score one of the best Villa goals ever though.


Fenderbyname

Scottish Premier league is shit on the whole


Kanedauke

Martinez should have been captain. He’s our most composed and consistent player.


Typical-Ad-4915

he’s one of the ones that most likely gonna be bought. So I agree


Scuppap

We'll win a cup in a season or 2


Aesorian

### Not a hot take to anyone involved in the club We're 2/3 years from regularly challenging for Europe (edit: assuming things go well) ### Hot take as a fan Luiz could end up being one of our best value buys in the last decade - and I would rather drop one of Watkins/Ings to get the best out of him (and McGinn as it would get the best out of both)


fifa-13-Esswein

Our vice captain shouldn’t be a player who we really should upgrade


SunnyMonkey17

None of Wesley, Watkins, Davis, or Ings will be on the team 2 seasons from now.


Punica

Not even Watkins?


SunnyMonkey17

Wesley gets thrown to the wolves, Watkins sold on for hefty profit, Davis sold to Tier 2, and Ings sold to avoid the free. This take is solely dependent on the development of the current young core of ST in the academy, obviously.


DickMoveDave

Can't see Ings being sold. I reckon he sees out his contract then leaves. Watkins maybe if he has a really good season.


sneb138

If Ings does well with us he might as well stay til he retires. He isn’t gonna get a better club as he heads into his thirties.


hazardthicc

Seems likely


ScreamingLordSutch57

Watkins and Ings will


astonaidan

Smith wont last the season


NoDangerPowerRanger

We didn’t need Danny Ings and would of been much better off buying a proven premier league DM


Vegan_Puffin

We needed another striker. Watkins gets injured we and we have Cameron Archer, who I like and think has potential but not ready yet to lead the line.


DickMoveDave

He's scored a hattrick every game he's started, I can only imagine he'd keep that up.


coupl4nd

Treading water this season. Girlish scores against us.


iamabigpotatoboy

that makes me fucking sick thinking about it


Various_Mobile4767

I have many Douglas Luiz is a mediocre player. Mings is decent, but way overrated by our fanbase. Dean Smith has not impressed me in the premier league. Barely surviving relegation with our squad 2 years ago isn't impressive. And getting midtable the next season had more to do with very good recruitment(a world class goal keeper, a very good right back, a very good striker and a good winger) more than anything. Wesley was a terrible player before he got injured. Stunk out the joint in most matches before Ben Mee crippled him. I still like Jack Grealish. El Ghazi is better than most people give him credit for. I don't see any hot takes from anyone else in the comments. Are people scared at giving their hot takes?


Hydracronis

I thought my takes were at least slightly spicy


Moothead3

Getting downvoted in a hot takes thread for actually giving hot takes lol But yeah, agree with the first four, less so with the last two. People keep trying to paint Luiz as working in the shadows when in reality he's just bang average and gives us little to sit up and take notice of. Prone to a cheap yellow/red card as well. Mings as well, he's a top half player the majority of the time but his constant mistakes really bring him down. People try to justify it with him having to be our outlet at the back but that really doesn't excuse his stupid red cards, under hit back passes or having no idea where the attacker is. Smith is average but I can't knock him for where he's gotten us. This season will be his first without Grealish to build around so we'll see if he can redeem his truly awful record without him. Wesley: Is shite, was shite, probably always will be shite.


astonaidan

We dont do that here, were more into denial lol Any view outside the hivemind is.....as you can see down voted


helicopter557

Matty Cash isn’t good enough fullback and we should be looking at reinforcements in January/integrating Kesler


timoranimus

We'll be in the market for some defenders in January...


ManLikeMalfroy

Chukwumeka may have a higher ceiling then jack


RemiBeaucoup

Sanson will be our stand-out player of the season 👀


Practical-Parsley

* Y'all were fucking embrassing when Grealish was at the club. Frankly I'm glad he's gone just so I don't have to suffer any more homoerotic posts about the ugly bastard * El Ghazi is shit and no amount of penalties and shushing-the-crowd celebrations is going to change my mind * Sanson is shit and we got rinsed by Marseille. He's never gonna impact a game. He'll be here until the end of 2025 because we can't sell him. * Honestly, we've got a midtable squad, a midtable manager, and we're never gonna break into any top 6. Best we can hope for is a few entertaining cup runs. Having said that, it's a fucking delight to see Aston Villa not inhabited by cunts. So if midtable mediocrity is the trade-off for decent owners, a likeable manager and playing our academy players, then I will GLADLY take it.


JimmyTheKiller

"Y'all" 😂


Practical-Parsley

Contractions are fuckin hilarious ain't they Jimmy?