Do Artists have to charge $15 hourly or are they still able to charge $15 as a flat rate too, like for their cheapest option (ex. a sketch)? I'm just confused, I'm sorry
Asking for clarification is always valid!
Right now we have no restrictions on what artists can charge for their work so long as it's not free. Should that change it's highly likely we'll adopt the /r/HungryArtists model verbatim.
>We discourage any budgets or prices that are under $15 or $15 USD hourly. After December 15th 2019, prices under $15 will no longer be allowed.
It's a good system.
I understand the sentiment behind this, but I agree with the concern that it'll only make harder for starting artists in this subreddit. I definitely agree a patron shouldn't barter for lower prices, but what if an artist outright perceives their own work or skill level to be under 15 dollars an hour? Not in a self-degrading manner, but a practical evaluation of their work and time. Most of my base prices, especially sketches and simple line art, fall under the 15 dollar mark. I'm a little worried. Reddit is the first place I ever actually succeeded in gaining commissions and I don't know if that'll continue if I'm forced to raise my base price.
As simply an observer, and an artist in another field that requires careful valuation of our work, I would apply the concept of hours spent vs cost per hour.
No offense intended, but would you really consider it a "sketch" if you spent more than an hour or two on it?
And if you values an individual piece of art you produce to be worth less than two hours, i.e. $30, should you even consider selling it?
These are simply the questions brought to my mind by this thread, so please don't take them to heart, I am simply trying to start a discussion.
No offense taken! :) I’m not meaning to apply my comment as a general rule for everybody, but I do believe artists should have the freedom to price their work how they choose. Due to the nature of my style, my sketches typically take around 10-15 minutes.
In terms of an individual piece of art being worth less than $30, I would absolutely still sell it. My commissions don’t make rent like many of the amazing artists on here, but I attend college and selling my art usually means the difference between being able to get coffee in the morning or not.
Thanks for commenting back.
And yes, I agree with you and your numbers, because as you quoted, say 15 mins for a piece that you sell for $30, is still $120 per hour, which is a great rate.
So I'm just presenting that as a comparison to what my other comment stated, because to me, while I make about the same rate per hour doing maintenance work, a 2 hour price for $30 ends up being $15 per hour, which leads to really what my point was, I suppose:
At what point does an amateur artist feel like their work is worth selling for a premium, and at what point does another artist decide to keep it to a hobby because it's not financially feasible as a profession?
This is a conversation I have with myself very often about my own hobby/ potential career
We require a living wage for our artists. Depending on the artist it *usually* takes 2-4 hours to finish a colored fullbody, so typically for something like that you're looking at around a $35-60 investment.
Our policy is that the floor for payment is $15, but that in no way guarantees that you can find a finished product for that, and in my experience you shouldn't expect to.
This is going to make it impossible for starting artists. All of my regulars came from $5 commissions, and yes I pay more than $5 for their work now. $15 is a lot for a first time commission.
Do Artists have to charge $15 hourly or are they still able to charge $15 as a flat rate too, like for their cheapest option (ex. a sketch)? I'm just confused, I'm sorry
Asking for clarification is always valid! Right now we have no restrictions on what artists can charge for their work so long as it's not free. Should that change it's highly likely we'll adopt the /r/HungryArtists model verbatim. >We discourage any budgets or prices that are under $15 or $15 USD hourly. After December 15th 2019, prices under $15 will no longer be allowed. It's a good system.
Ah I see, thank you so much!
I understand the sentiment behind this, but I agree with the concern that it'll only make harder for starting artists in this subreddit. I definitely agree a patron shouldn't barter for lower prices, but what if an artist outright perceives their own work or skill level to be under 15 dollars an hour? Not in a self-degrading manner, but a practical evaluation of their work and time. Most of my base prices, especially sketches and simple line art, fall under the 15 dollar mark. I'm a little worried. Reddit is the first place I ever actually succeeded in gaining commissions and I don't know if that'll continue if I'm forced to raise my base price.
As simply an observer, and an artist in another field that requires careful valuation of our work, I would apply the concept of hours spent vs cost per hour. No offense intended, but would you really consider it a "sketch" if you spent more than an hour or two on it? And if you values an individual piece of art you produce to be worth less than two hours, i.e. $30, should you even consider selling it? These are simply the questions brought to my mind by this thread, so please don't take them to heart, I am simply trying to start a discussion.
No offense taken! :) I’m not meaning to apply my comment as a general rule for everybody, but I do believe artists should have the freedom to price their work how they choose. Due to the nature of my style, my sketches typically take around 10-15 minutes. In terms of an individual piece of art being worth less than $30, I would absolutely still sell it. My commissions don’t make rent like many of the amazing artists on here, but I attend college and selling my art usually means the difference between being able to get coffee in the morning or not.
Thanks for commenting back. And yes, I agree with you and your numbers, because as you quoted, say 15 mins for a piece that you sell for $30, is still $120 per hour, which is a great rate. So I'm just presenting that as a comparison to what my other comment stated, because to me, while I make about the same rate per hour doing maintenance work, a 2 hour price for $30 ends up being $15 per hour, which leads to really what my point was, I suppose: At what point does an amateur artist feel like their work is worth selling for a premium, and at what point does another artist decide to keep it to a hobby because it's not financially feasible as a profession? This is a conversation I have with myself very often about my own hobby/ potential career
Hey I'm trying to hire an artist for actual money and my post was removed. What do I do?
You basically just insured that I'll never sell any art here. Great. I ready had to deal with this "you should charge more for your art" stuff on FB.
Someone direct me to a diff sub reddit where I can try selling my stuff
me too pls i make little cute drawings i charge 5-20 USD on fiverr already nobody want to hire me if i charge 15 USD+ even more nobody will hire me
I don't really understand, do I have to make my offer 15$ or 16$ for example a colored fullbody design?
We require a living wage for our artists. Depending on the artist it *usually* takes 2-4 hours to finish a colored fullbody, so typically for something like that you're looking at around a $35-60 investment. Our policy is that the floor for payment is $15, but that in no way guarantees that you can find a finished product for that, and in my experience you shouldn't expect to.
why cant i post
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just a awhile ago it didnt upload the upload button is blank
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This is going to make it impossible for starting artists. All of my regulars came from $5 commissions, and yes I pay more than $5 for their work now. $15 is a lot for a first time commission.
which is right