By - GhostV2114
I notice when ppl choose crypto since NO one plays him
Hes not dead
Hes just off the grid
HE OFF THE GRID GRID GRID.....
This for my kid kid kid
For when my kid kid kids have kids
Okay hear me out...
What is it?
So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid
Please type off the grid one more time
Off the grid😩🥵💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦
🚬 was it as good for you as it was for me?
Can't say for sure. It was off the grid
It was the amount he said scanned that bothered me lol
Thanks. I hate it
This idea is not so off the grid even if i tried to keep it off the grid it pops up the question why leave it off the grid… scan scan scan cant be scanned because we are off the grid so i cannot be scanned.
I think that is just an apex copypasta at this point.
Has been for a while now
wait really? guess i’ve been off the grid
Hear me out...
It's been for months
Bro just like that crazy buff I've heard about!
I support this. As a Crypto main, half the time I play with people with mics, they always go ‘OMG A CRYPTO’
Crypto is one of my mains as well, but I get the opposite reaction. People tell me to go to hell, and to pick a better legend. Funny how they no longer complain when I use his drone to save their bitch asses when they die in fragment(if they don’t d/c instantly)
I just ask them whos the best legend and until they answer with crypto there staying dead
I use to main wraith but I’ve been doing rampart since I rarely come across another as well 🤣
And how many of those are really people who didn't pay attention when their main was picked
At least the few Crypto mains that do exist rarely have to worry about someone picking their legend.
Bro i have had *one* game in pubs in my last 70 matches where someone chose crypto. Best thing is, the squad chose his friends as their legends. I went Mirage and the other random picked Pathfinder. Bestie squad :D
Daily or weekly challenge is the only time I’ll pick him and I won’t re-roll the dailies as it it the only time I’ll ever pick the dude.
I've been using him recently, and it seems the main reason why I would want to stop is because my teammates are morons who rush while I'm still scouting the enemy out. Just because you can see them ahead of time doesn't mean they can't see you charging at them. It also means that you're probably putting about a football field or two's distance between yourselves and your third, so I'm not even able to back you up if I wanted to..
That, and the Drone is just... way too easy to spot once it's parked, so it's damn-near impossible to get any use out of, for yourself. They should add a cloaking mechanism while it's idle, with a faint, tell-tale shimmer, to make it more difficult to spot. Also make "casting" it faster so you don't have to already be mostly isolated just to throw it at a wall and keep moving.
Also noticed that, when it's thrown up towards the sky, you intuitively want it to correct itself and point down towards the ground, like how it turns around when you throw it at a wall. It doesn't do that, which means you have to make yourself vulnerable for corrections, just to give them time to shoot it down anyways. And all that accomplishes is warning them that you're there for exactly zero benefit.
All those people playing him for the daily challenge. Like me
This might be dumb but after playing vantage and being able to control her bat I was kinda wishing he could have two buttons one to move his drone and the other to tell his drone where to look so he doesn’t always stay in his drone
Also why can't he heal while he sends his drone out
He can there's a crypto tech for it, although it's kinda hard to do
Nice! But then this brings up the question as to why can Mirage and Octane (and probably a bunch of other heroes I'm not familiar with) can use their ability and heal at the same time without a tech? Seems like a hidden nerf to Crypto's already clunky abilities. Also I just feel like movement abilities >>> any other abilities in this game, so crypto is already working from behind.
In pubs movement is more important, in ranked scan legends reign supreme.
And people can't seem to understand how important their role actually is
My seer randoms seem to think that his ult is specifically and only used to keep a team from pushing them after they wide peek from a mile away and get cracked. Pushing a team in a building? Nah. Run away and throw it while you heal in the building over? That’s the ticket.
That'd make a great post, dude.
You can if you time it right
My only problem with being able to control the drone that way is the bat doesn’t matter which way it faces but cryptos drone does
How about just remove the direction when not in the drone, so it scans 360 degrees and while we're at it lets make it follow you like in apex mobile.
Single press is point, double press is move, long press is enter drone?
If you choose a point direction the drone will always face that direction. If you use the move command on the ground it will maintain the current height and move above the ground you point at. If you point in the air it will fly in the direction until 31 or 60 meters away. Given the controls for the bat I think it could be implemented the same way
The drone should just have a 360 degree view of the area.
His drone should have 2 dual welding lmgs on it that are controlled automatically then he would be balanced.
God he’s such a cool character I just wish he wasn’t so impossibly difficult to be effective with lmao
With the drone change it's a million times easier. The issue is that you need a mic squad who's all on the same page when he uses his ult. Since he's gotta hang back for that they have to be ready for it and potentially wait an extra second or two to engage. It also helps to use a sniper or the repeater as one of your weapons, that way if things turn bad you can still help your teammates.
It's what I try to do with Crypto - I carry a sniper rifle or at least a marksman as often as I can, as fighting from long range is so valuable, especially to someone that can use utility from 200 meters away.
Also I love using sniper rifles, so there's that.
Never really though of how good it’d be to have essentially widowmaker wall hacks lmao
Yeah, I guess you can interpret it that way lol.
If you are behind your teammates because of droning (I don't think it happens to me too often), then having a sniper is really good. And when you fight against a squad that's either too distracted or too dumb to not destroy your drone, the scans you get are so useful to know when someone peeks out of the cover.
I always say, the game is super easy when you always know where your enemies are.
Information is key. Even with great aim you won't know where to shoot if you don't know where your enemies are (unless you want to shoot through a smoke or something).
Played him for four seasons, you don’t really need to hang back to use the ult, and can actually be fairly effective in an aggressive push if you’re good at playing cover. That being said, with the more and more additions of vertical aspects of the maps, his lack of movement and any other abilities when not in drone really hinder his effectiveness. I stopped playing him this season with around 7.5k kills
It’s actually worse imo, his EMP is too awkward and takes longer to get into drone view to make use of it. I used to play him in Diamond and master lobbies before his ‘buff’ but since it I won’t touch him.
Yea, my friend that used to be a crypto main in masters said the exact same thing.
This is true, the hold to enter drone “buff” ruined the ability to EMP in a hurry
I just throw it out on top of people, hit q, walk out of the area of effect and then charge in.
Crypto / Path main here, some good tips for Crypto are:
Be prepared to run from a fight if you need to, if it's highly unlikely that you guys will win based off of how the fight's going you at least need to survive, grabbing banners and reviving with Crypto is one of his strengths
Your EMPs always need to be close enough to follow up on, if you think it'll benefit the team even EMP yourself. Personally I try to always be just barely outside the EMP range and immediately push in after popping it. Other times you can use EMP if you don't want a full scale engagement yet but still want the 150 damage for your shield upgrade.
I rarely scout with Crypto unless the team has decided to hunker down, a bad crypto is one that's always playing catch up because he scouts needlessly with his drone. I'm able to keep up with my teammates pretty much always.
Those are the main points that come to mind, everything else is tiny details but he's honestly not a complex character. He's actually quite strong when you use EMP right, I just wish it didn't slow Teammates.
You can use the EMP to literally instigate 3rd party scenarios as well to be fair.
If you know there's 2 squads in close proximity to each other, flying the drone past the first squad catches their attention, triggering emp on the second squad then draws attention to that squad whilst simultaneously weakening them.
Final outcome generally being that squad A attacks squad B and your squad is then free to sweep in and clean up.
(This is tried and tested by the way)
Lol yeah I do this all the time in ranked
I figure most serious crypto players do. :p
Just throwing this out there for anybody thinking of ringing him out hehe.
Yep, that’s why you carry and ult accel too. Emp bait a couple teams, pop the accel, then go mop up and generally mid fight you’ll get the ult back to use again.
Wish Crypto could carry 2 like Wattson
> Be prepared to run from a fight if you need to, if it's highly unlikely that you guys will win based off of how the fight's going you at least need to survive, grabbing banners and reviving with Crypto is one of his strengths
It's just sad that this comes with big risk of your teammates leaving. I hate that I'll often force myself to fight uneven battle just because I can't be sure teammates won't leave.
He’s a ranked legend tbh for this exact reason
I also like using him in defensive situations, pop drone - get cracked, throw EMP when they decide to hard push because they cracked or whatever.
If my shields already broke, I throw EMP And start a battery, knowing they will be slow to get to me, and my team is already in place waiting
I feel the problem is consistency in utilising the drone's information.
What i mean is, you can provide the spots but your team are the ones usually that can immediately benefit from it. If your team is bad or not playing as well as normal, then it makes Crypto less appealing as an option.
That said then, how come the top tier players don't use him then?
Because Seer and Bloodhound exist, and most won't even use them at times, when you have Valk, Path, Octane etc
The top players *do* use Crypto, he was 6th in popularity for ALGS finals, above Bloodhound, Path, and Octane. He's just unappealing in ranked
I didn't mean like, Esports/Pro top tier, I mean people in ranked, sorry
Hes not that hard if you have a 3 stack and coordinate a bit. In solo Q though hes impossible
Any character can be good with a coordinated three stack. I’m a mirage main lol I’ve done a fair bit of “making it work,” but damn it’s just such a heavy disadvantage. Crypto has to jump through like three different hoops to get the same buff that other character get with a button press (albeit for a potentially far smaller amount of time).
There’s next to no reason to run Crypto as opposed to Seer or Bloodhound(save for fun factor. Crypto way more fun), and it’s super lame that that’s the case
Crypto was one of the more popular characters (6th) in ALGS, being even more popular than Bloodhound, so there's at least *some* merit to his kit.
Because pros tend to bunker down in one spot until ring comes. Then you can use drone in meantime.
For the love of apex please stop using ALGS and pro streamers as a basis for balancing
I've been having heavy succes with crypto with my 3 stack but that's probably because I've actually been playing crypto for a while. Emp pushes are the most satisfying thing and I'm an aggressive as hell, I run shotguns.
Gunna have to come here and rip crypto out of my cold, dead hands. I don't care what they do to him, I will never stop maining cool hacker mans
If there's a million crypto mains he's one of them if theres one crypto main it's him if there are no crypto mains he's dead
He is crypto.
It’s him, John Crypto
*Could it be, THE Crypto* 🙌
The crypto, it’s real
You sir, are my spirit animal
I’m right there with you, never gonna stop playing crypto
Where do you find these stats?
Apex legends status
Unfortunately these stats are super flawed, so take with a big grain of salt.
Respawn doesn’t run stats APIs nor do they give official stats
Crypto is one of those legends that is either played by complete fresh meat or gods among men
Unless you run into me, I consider myself average
Me and the other 4 still main him tho. Edit: woke up to see more than ten of us. We multiply or sumn?
Excuse me for my delay.
i was on my drone
Yes sir still here
Sorry, I'm late
Me too brother, me too..
Late as always, here's the 4th. (Sorry, had to let the EMP go off before I got into the building, so I ain't get damaged).
I am still here
Don't forget me
Based of all of the replies to this it seems crypto mains might have the power of mitosis.
there are dozens of us!!
Yo mb I’m late I was taking a shit
Backed out of my drone , Im good to go
I count myself among you.
I’m a main too! Why is this post saying he will die next season tho?
Hey, I'm here
Can someone work out how many mains it will be from that percentage and the total player count? I’m too high to try.
Hand up me too
We don’t die, we multiply.
We are spreading..
Resident Crypto reporting for duty
Being able to grab dead teammates banners AND respawn them has potential for game changing moves, a good crypto is indispensable. What a shame.
Done, what next?
Now do Bloodhound
I reckon Fuse has that covered
"Hands off, that's a prezzie for Fusey."
Oh yeah let me have some of that Bloodussy
It’s been said they like it rough😏
Man is absolutely fabulous. I've been playing when everyone was telling me to play Bloodhound instead, entirely to roleplay as Lil Nas X. I'm so sad he's so hated as a character, I wish he was never made meta in ALGS.
His pickrate is so low that it’s pretty undeniable he needs SOMETHING done to his kit.
They have to add an automatic fly mode for the drone alongside the manual mode . The auto mode is the same as Vantage's bat but with slightly more range and the drone spawn facing down .
and now you can send the drone ahead of you while fighting for an emp or quick recon without lagging behind your team.
I was thinking about changing one of his abilities to something called “off the radar”
So basically you are not scannable because you are “off the grid”. Bloodhound, seer etc. can’t scan you because you are “off the grid”…
Could you please explain?
Wait a minute. He'd be off the grid sounds cool but what's does it mean?
Cool idea! But what do you mean by that? Not getting scanned? Does that mean he can not get scanned? So if a bloodhound scans for example, is he seen or not seen? Or is he scanned but they can not see him?
Well for one, he'd be off the grid.
It’s a copypasta from the crypto mains sub lol
Ye they're probably trying to get the person to repeat the copypasta in its entirety for the fourth time for today.
I can confirm u/newtostew2 that this is what I was trying to do.
Hey man, could you explain this a bit better, like what do you mean, can’t be scanned? Like he’s unscannable? Is that some kind of, ability he has, that’s off? Like does he, not get scanned, because of, something being off? I’m not sure I understand. Could you explain further??
what about “not on the grid”
I love Crypto. The onw thing I hate about him is that his drone is always scanning. It means enemies will instantly look for it and because of the noise and glow it gives off, it's easy to find.
IMO Crypto should be able to toggle the scan ability so he can hide his drone better and activate it when he needs to.
That's actually a sick idea. The suprise element would be great.
I got an idea called “off the grid”
Can you explain it ?
He needs a better passive…any ideas?
I got this idea call off the meds
That sounds refreshing, do explain!
Basically Wraith's passive but the voices tell you how to kill instead of how not to die
"Yeah so in front of you is a Pred 3 stack, they know you're here so your chance of wiping them is....0.001%*"
**next-gen stats powered by AWS*
Oh my god lmao
He can sit on his drone and fly around the map.
Idk why but imagining what you said made me laugh LMAO
>A whole new worrrrrrrld!
Hear me out, I have this really cool idea called “Off The Grid”
could you explain?
“So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid.”
Holy shit, this gold, how have I never heard of this before!?! Someone tag respawn, the entire company needs to know about this.
Cowards legs, he runs faster with two banners, but if he shoots his gun he only goes normal speed.
Posting my last response to threads regarding Crypto:
I'd like to see him given some QoL's to lesson the tediousness like ~~checking banners for teams nearby without entering drone~~ I like PalisadedHeart's suggestion better because it **creates healthier gameplay due to the noise created** upon Crypto sending his drone out: **"I'm just sitting here wishing when I quick throw my drone it will ping squads in the area without me having to jump in then out."**
and an actual passive, because currently his tactical and passive are effectively the same thing. It'd be nice if scanning someone w/ the drone scanned them for a set amount of time, because in fights you can be constantly scanning someone who keeps moving out of the scan range and it'll constantly un-scan & re-scan them. For something as easily destroyable as it is, I'd like atleast a 2-3 second minimum scan time so that it's actually useful outside of EMP.
It'd also be cool if the drone watched his back while not in use so that even if he wasn't actively using his drone, he'd still have some use. Would also be nice if EMP stopped ability usage for the duration of the EMP slow (Similar to Seer's Q ability lockout) to counter the ever increasing mobility meta. (Though the ability lockout could lead to a really disgusting synergy between Horizon and Crypto, but again, Crypto has lots of counterplay compared to most legends.)
EX: Sitting on a door healing, Crypto can turn his back to the door while healing (Assuming enemy is not breaking the door) so that the enemys get scanned for his teammates.
For reference; Crypto's passive is literally just "Crypto and his teammates see what his Surveillance Drone detects up to a 30m distance." Which is why I say that his passive and tactical are basically one ability.
Crypto is still very useful in a coordinated team and very strong power-level wise, but he has so much counterplay, that I think he could be afforded being the strongest level of power in the game, and no one would mind because he has actual counterplay as opposed to something like Seer or BH.
Ok... Hear me out
Oh no, not again
***I‘ve had an idea for a crypto buff called Off the Grid***
How does “Off the Grid” work?
*Off the Grid intensifies*
I got this totally original idea for a crypto buff called "off the grid". What it does is that he wont get scanned by enemy scans and he wont be revealed to enemies because he will have this passive called off the grid which will protect him from enemy scans so when he gets scanned he technically doesn't get scanned because he will have off the grid passive that will protect him from the scans and since he is hacker I think he should have it have to protect him from enemy scans and I would call it off the grid and it would be his passive that would make him unscannable by enemy scans because it would be his passive and it would be called off the grid so when he gets scanned the enemies wont see him because he will have the passive ability that will protect him from the scans I believe crypto should have this ability because there is seer and respawn wont delete him so I believe they should at least give crypto ability that will make him completely immune to seer and bloodhound abilities and call it off the grid (that's the off the grid passive I was talking about)
I used to main crypto but his latest 'buff' made him unplayable. The ability to send your drone out without going in it is fine (not even great) but the shorter range of scan and lower drone health to "compensate" just made him trash. I used to be able to really put the drone to use positioning while my teammates pushed and then hope out of drone and join the action with great visuals. Now I am just a guy with a gun and a drone that doesn't scan anything
It's also much harder to hit enemies with the ultimate now.
Nerfing drone health was 100% a massive mistake. They felt the need to compensate for his buffs but they castrated him.
It wasn't even really a buff, it was a qol fix.
They didn’t change the scan rage though?
I doubt his pick rate will get any better if Seer remains as is currently. Seer can give you all the useful information crypto can give you when it matters without you being a man down.
Not saying Crypto necessarily needs to be buffed but seer needs to be nerfed.
But Crypto definitely needs a new passive. Any ideas?
Yeah I have an idea for a passive called Cough the Lid.
He can ping a location on the map and the drone goes there automatically
So I had this cool idea which represents his character, it’s called “off the grid”
I AM NOT LEAVING HACKER MAN
OVER MY DEAD BODY
I will always main crypto
I play him from time to time, mostly when i play with friends cuz i can fully support them with crypto
I was a Crypto main since season 3 and will still be a Crypto main until the game dies (•̀ᴗ•́)و
Stay loyal Crypto mains! We stick in this together
Funnily enough, I've actually made the hop over to using crypto a lot more, and it's made me a better player. I enjoy the set up, his utility in instant-use rezzes or grabbing banners in the super aggro storm late game(paired with a rez beacon I've saved a couple games), and not being able to rely on "oops, all movement legends" as a get out of jail free card forces me to be more conscious of positioning and curbed my bad habit of overextending engagements.
He went from my least favorite legend to one of my top 3 picks.
I love playing as Crypto, but I can understand why people don’t pick him.
The biggest reason is that he works best with a squad who uses mic communication. From the drone, you can call out pinpoint locations, and also looking at the banners tells you how many squads are in the area.
Yes, these things can be done with “pings” but microphones make it so much smoother.
A lot of players don’t know how to use Crypto efficiently either. They think you just find a corner, camp there and fly around. His drone placement can help you win some clutch battles with decent done placement for sure.
Idc, i‘ll still play him. He‘s one of the best.
I’ve had a ton with him in Gun Run funnily enough, it’s usually so chaotic that the drone can stay up indefinitely, giving you a nice advantage.
He’s actually good though, people just don’t know how to play him properly. He’s gonna be my main for the rest of ranked on Storm Point.
It's more that it's hard and tedious to play him correctly and you also need a team that will watch your back etc
People rather just pew pew.
Simplicity is also easier to perform with. Why bother with the exponentially harder character when I could get a similar result for far less effort. They need to make a real reason to play crypto other than he's cool hacker mans.
Personally I think that’s too easy of an answer. He has strictly gotten worse the past two years while say, Wraith for example has stayed exactly the same. Even legends who came out way after him (e.g. Ash, and even post nerf Valk) have power levels above him because they don’t suffer from getting watered down like does. That’s the part that bugs me. I know how to play him I’ve got 1.2k kills and about 120 wins or something I have to check my exact numbers, but he is not as good as was a year and change ago.
Sure he's good but not as good as seer at the moment
i’d be making that face too if my pick rate was that low
I love having a crypto on my team but would never play him it's too hard
Cryptos my guy i aint gonna stop
Probably my favourite character in terms of aesthetics. Animations, skins, etc... But he is pretty much useless compared to the others right now.
Make the dron follows him automatically so you can see people in 20 meters around you, obviously they know you are there because they can see and listen the Dron... simple, stupid but useful.
And remove the self damage when using his ult. He is a master of technology, I'm sure he got something to avoid PEMs
I don’t know about the drone making noise though. That way no one’s going to want a crypto on their team if he’s constantly going to be giving away his position. Other than that I think it’s a good idea.
I mean, while I agree on Crypto deserving some love, pick rates are just a list after all: someone will always be the least picked legend and that's fine too
mf is literally the hardest legend to use, what did you expect
His whole schtick is having to hide in a corner away from the fighting to operate his drone, which doesn't exactly vibe with a lot of players. Most people just want to run run shooty shooty.
No that's the biggest misconception about him, though understandably because his kit is difficult to use without defaulting to that