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> You're a monster. đ
* [Comment by RV-GameplayChris](/r/apexlegends/comments/wpd4ak/dear_respawn_i_would_like_to_shoot_the_bat_that/ikh0c6j/?context=1000 "posted on 2022-08-16 03:02:43 UTC"):
> If you mean the shield heal instant activation, a fix is incoming.
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Vantage: *about to jump to echo, making some lighthearted pun about echolocation that Wattson would be proud of*
Echo: *getting vaporized by a 50 caliber round the size of himself fired from a Kraber held by a Pathfinder*
She just goes from a 5 round sniper that does 50/100 damage per shot to a bottomless semi-auto kraber that does double damage, gains the ability to hover infinitely with perfect accuracy with her gun out, and has no bullet drop or damage falloff on any gun, and has an active scan on the entire lobby for that 2 minutes. The simple answer to stop it from happening is to simply not shoot the bat, easy counter play if you ask me
Haha Iâm on controller too, I tried to shoot the bat the first game of the season and immediately knew it wasnât going to be something I would be doing even if I was able to.
Every time I want to ping the banners to check for enemies nearby, it goes:
>Patching into my eye in the sky. I'll let you know what I see.
>Ya, there's no squads near us.
>Backing out of my drone, I'm good to go.
>Signaling my drone back.
Every. Single. Time.
Itâs a basically 100% uptime tactical as it is now in a game where movement is a premium skill. Also cryptoâs drone doesnât give you wallhacks it needs LOS
Crypto's drone actually gives a person information of where the enemy is, and can be used to damage you from a remote location. Echo is just vibing up in the sky and may or may not be used to boost up (depending on when you notice them).
That's probably why it works that way. You can't shoot Loba's bracelet either.
Cryptos drone CAN:
Pick up banners
Respawn teammates
Scan beacons
Scan banners in the area to see how many squads are around
Gives info with LoS
Can EMP for free damage
Can distract people
Echo CAN:
Sit there until you hold a button for a period of time and then continue sitting there until next time.
It would be useless if you could destroy it. Cryptoâs drone serves a purpose so you can destroy it because it can scan you and also damage you. The bat just shows you exactly where the vantage is going to go other then that it serves literally no other purpose, being able to kill it would kill vantages tactical. It would be like being able to destroy lobas bracelet mid throw.
Which would be cool, but it would break Loba lol.
I honestly couldn't recall if it was an intentional thing or not. I feel like that's how it SHOULD work, she might actually have a bit more depth to her kit if you could fake people out with the bracelet
I've only played Vantage a handful of times, but I realized pretty quickly how easily one can bait an enemy with it. I've also used it to determine where an enemy Vantage may want to go
Honestly thatâs probably why they gave that ability to Vantage to be able to move Echo like that, to see how it does in a sense of balancing. But moving Echo around and moving Hack around are two different things as echo is for movement and Hack is for spotting enemies so I bet they wonât give that same kind of quick controls for Hack as they might think Crypto will be too strong.
Would be kind of insane to be able to direct a second pair of eyes while moving yourself. intel is king, and people hate wallhacks. Making it easier to scan people with the drone at no cost will effectively increase how often you are "wallhacked" in fights.
Except Cryptoâs âwallhacksâ are VERY different to Seerâs or Bloodhoundâs. Crypto needs his drone to have Line Of Sight to get that scan off, putting Hack (who is very loud, being hit, and has 50 health) directly in harmâs way
Big risk n reward
Crypto is already highly picked in algs. Personally other than the bugs crypto has, I solo que to masters every season with him just fine. Not against the idea of giving him a non drone related passive.
Past the weird drone deploying and the bugs, the only thing I'd really want is to ADS and check nearby squads like how Seer and Vantage are able to use their passive. Bring Crypto in line with his fellow recons.
Its not at all the same thing. Crypto can grab banners, scout, provide info, res people, and unleashes his ult. Echo literally provides a jump location and thats it. I think its fine as is.
Seriously!
This is why respawn canât cater to casuals because how the fuck are so many people on board with this idea. The bat literally gives away vantage position and follows her if she moves past 58 meters from it. Why would you want to destroy it in the first place? Just to stop her very vulnerable slow jump?
Don't forget instant servey beacon scan, instant opening vaults on WE if you have vault key in your inventory, ping banners to know number of squads within 200 meters of crypto and emp counters lots of shit like seer ult, Horizon ult, gibby bubble and more.
I have wasted COUNTLESS bullets on the stupid flying rat. LET ME KILL IT. I am tired of sniping thin air because itâs the only indestructible ability that just sits there taunting me.
The fact you see it at least tells you a vantage is nearby. She's not crypto, it can't be destroyed as of right now so let's get over this happening unless they address it.
Better idea that dosent involved harming an innocent animal, just make nearby shots spook him, causing him to retreat to Vantage and give away her location while putting Echo on a cooldown
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New Revenant Buff: Only Rev is evil enough to actually shoot the bat and thus disable Vantage's tactical ability
Ash and caustic to
Ash should be able to throw her rodent friend at the bat Just, fling em with your sword
***Trust Me***
PTSD
BTSD
BTSM
BDSM
7274
Protocol
Bats eat rats so it wouldnât work
Give the rat a mini sword then
Midair battle
only if you can snipe it with your passive from super high up edit: tactical, not passive
Ya Iâm gonna gas a bat in the sky Canister fucking set bois
Okay but Imagine a heavy duty sniper rifle that fires highly compressed Nox Gas bullets I'd never use anything else
New Rev finisher/emote : he goes full Ozzy on the bat
like a silence? /s
Imagine you're mid tactical and Echo gets blown out of the sky.
Like someone flies up and just starts giving Echo top??? How insane would that be
???
Imagine echo getting blown out of the sky By like valk or something
You mean like blown away, right�
Imagine!
Character ainât even two weeks old and already got Rule 34âed. smh
I can guarantee you it didnât take 2 weeks
âWhat do you mean by that?â
It didnât even last 2 hours.
I didnât even last 2 minutes
Probably happened the moment they dropped the announcement for her
You know thatâs how we got locked down for two years right ?
Gotdamn Mickey Mouse
I think you meant 86d đ đ đ
Lmao
This is the greatest thread in all of Apex
Dragons!
deez nuts across your face
Lucky bastard
She could kill me after that and I wouldn't be mad honestly
Preferably by means of thigh.
Sucked into the jet pack you say?!?!
Valks into chicks it would make more sense if it was a jump padding Gibby doing the blowing
No way that bat is 18 years old you sicko
Rule34 has entered the chat
Ayyo
Ban this man! đđ
????? HUH BRO
Flair checks out
Yes. Youâre jumping to echo and suddenly see octane using his pad to fly up to echo real quick or Valkyrie flying up to earn some quick apex coins
Ayo??
White Woman passive ability leaked
i wish i could be the batđ
Lmfaooooooooooooo
*hilarious*
You all are sick. Keep going tho
Oh naaah
Vantage: *about to jump to echo, making some lighthearted pun about echolocation that Wattson would be proud of* Echo: *getting vaporized by a 50 caliber round the size of himself fired from a Kraber held by a Pathfinder*
"You have the same expression as my customers when I was a waiter- *satisfied!* :)"
âThis is my favourite partâ
I would cry đđ
Knowing them itâd be like 2 weeks of a glitch where it happens & she jus flys up into the sky til out of bounds
Like that video of a Valk crashing into a redeploy ship and getting her whole squad out of bounds
LMAO honestly if cryptoâs drone can be shotâŠ
No but seriously lol
Wait, I thought Echo was a dolphin?
That's Ecco.
You just keep going, that would be funny
Vantage should get a 100% damage increase if that happens. Echo is on a 2 minute cooldown, but vantage gets to wreak havoc
She just goes from a 5 round sniper that does 50/100 damage per shot to a bottomless semi-auto kraber that does double damage, gains the ability to hover infinitely with perfect accuracy with her gun out, and has no bullet drop or damage falloff on any gun, and has an active scan on the entire lobby for that 2 minutes. The simple answer to stop it from happening is to simply not shoot the bat, easy counter play if you ask me
If you ping it and she calls it back to her the ping will track her for a few seconds
Really? This is a great tip
Except it is really f***ing hard to ping
just point at it and click. not like its moving most of the time. edit:completely forgot about rollers
Point? Click? Roller brain not comprehending
âRoller brainâ is actually crazy lol
Weâre out here pushing sticks
Haha Iâm on controller too, I tried to shoot the bat the first game of the season and immediately knew it wasnât going to be something I would be doing even if I was able to.
Found the PC gamer
oh thats fair I guess
Only if it drops a tiny death box
now i imagine crypto's drone has a death box that he needs to get or else he can't use the drone
He could just get the banner from the box with his dro... Actually, nevermind.
But what if (new passive idea), he gets a drone to grab the drone's banner?
Or a passive where he can go off the grid or sum
Please don't give the devs "balance ideas"
I have a stronger bond with Hack than Vantage has with the bat and everytime my drone gets shot, I get sad
*cries in Korean*
"I'm not crying, my tear ducts are just malfunctioning!"
Flair checks out
I dont know why I laughed so hard at this lol
I wish we had the same mechanic with Hack to just point it in a direction we want to scan. Going in and out of drone mode fucks me up
Every time I want to ping the banners to check for enemies nearby, it goes: >Patching into my eye in the sky. I'll let you know what I see. >Ya, there's no squads near us. >Backing out of my drone, I'm good to go. >Signaling my drone back. Every. Single. Time.
I'm coming to terms with the big chance that they'll never give us that banner check on ADS passive ( ._.)
You do, it was added for the Newcastle patch. Just tap instead of hold the tactical button. Doesn't go very far though.
wasn't it added in mad maggie's release?
only initially though, after its deployed cant do shit
Vantage is using her bat as a utility and nothing more Hack is cryptos friend and their relationship is shown beautifully with every animation
Whenever someone kills hack in my games I say You broke hack now I break your face As a reference to I broke your securities and your face
Hell if you arenât gonna let us kill it al least let us shoot it and itâs gets scared and flys back or something
Yo thatâs actually a decent idea. Would give you a hint to where she is and force her to have to redeploy him.
Itâs really silly that itâs indestructible. We can shoot cryptos drone why canât we shoot the bat
Because the bat just lets you jump. The drone gives you fucking wall hacks and can explode into a damaging electromagnetic pulse lol.
Itâs a basically 100% uptime tactical as it is now in a game where movement is a premium skill. Also cryptoâs drone doesnât give you wallhacks it needs LOS
100% uptime??? You know it has a cooldown to use right?
Crypto's drone actually gives a person information of where the enemy is, and can be used to damage you from a remote location. Echo is just vibing up in the sky and may or may not be used to boost up (depending on when you notice them). That's probably why it works that way. You can't shoot Loba's bracelet either.
Cryptos drone CAN: Pick up banners Respawn teammates Scan beacons Scan banners in the area to see how many squads are around Gives info with LoS Can EMP for free damage Can distract people Echo CAN: Sit there until you hold a button for a period of time and then continue sitting there until next time.
It would be cool to be able to shoot the bracelet though.
Or if shooting it, knocked the bracelet off course.
It would be useless if you could destroy it. Cryptoâs drone serves a purpose so you can destroy it because it can scan you and also damage you. The bat just shows you exactly where the vantage is going to go other then that it serves literally no other purpose, being able to kill it would kill vantages tactical. It would be like being able to destroy lobas bracelet mid throw. Which would be cool, but it would break Loba lol.
âShoot da batttttt!!â ~ Probably the Penguin But seriously no, donât shoot the bat. If anything itâs presence gives away Vantageâs location.
I try using it to bait in fights, send it to one side and have them think you are going one way and swing around.
Damn, hadnât thought of that. Good tip.
Don't people do this sort of fakeout with Loba's bracelet too?
That's a bug that some people got lucky with. You always teleport with Loba bracelet if its working properly.
Yea but that bug pissed me the fuck off
I honestly couldn't recall if it was an intentional thing or not. I feel like that's how it SHOULD work, she might actually have a bit more depth to her kit if you could fake people out with the bracelet
I've only played Vantage a handful of times, but I realized pretty quickly how easily one can bait an enemy with it. I've also used it to determine where an enemy Vantage may want to go
But what if you could shoot the bat and it has a cool down before she can use it again? Like cryptos drone
Exactly. Itâs also a video game, make the bat fly back to Vantage because it got scared of bullets. No bat has to die. But the legends tho..
Yeah kinda surprised this isn't a feature.
SHIKAKA!!!
\*bows\*
You're a monster. đ
Says the guy who let us rip spiders from their safe and cozy eggs and blast their innards all over the place for a couple stacks of ammo
Their fault for eating ammo I need smh
"It's your own fault for being full of goodies!" - space dwarf, c. Unknown
ROCK AND STONE!
Rock and Stone forever!
Did someone say rock and stone?!
STONE AND ROCK! Oh wait
Touché
Or decimate innocent prowlers who are simply protecting their home.
Yeah but spiders are gross and icky. Bats are cute and fuzzy
Until they end up in a soup and starts a worldwide pandemic
i hate spiders though
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Can we pet the prowlers instead? Or tame them? I would like to ride one into battle even if it eats me after
He may be a monster but heâs a monster with a point. Sheâs also got an exploit which lets her tap strafe at an impossible speed.
If you mean the shield heal instant activation, a fix is incoming.
The meatworm hungers for the bat, chris.
r/BrandNewSentence
also known as the "bat bat" strategy
Not the one on my back tho
I'll assume this will be possible next update now!
I agree as long as the bat can shoot back
Next new champion is just the bat
Tiny hit box, but low profile on crack
Hitbox is 20 pixel wide but you have 0,1HP.
Anti-passive, immediately dies outside the ring at any part of the game.
watson ult should be able to kill it too brought to you by the watson gang
Echo: *gets too close to Wattson ult* *BOOM!* *Echoâs guts splatter onto Vantageâs face as she looks on in horror*
"blood on da HUD" - a Spike Lee joint
She wouldn't care, would she? She's killed bigger, smarter shit a lot of times before.
>bigger, smarter shit a lot of times before. Usually we call people by their names, but okay sure.
corpses aren't people >:)
i really wish crypto could move his drone around like vantage moves her bat. would make the character more viable imo.
Fr itâs not fair. In his banners the drone is scanning all by itself
Honestly thatâs probably why they gave that ability to Vantage to be able to move Echo like that, to see how it does in a sense of balancing. But moving Echo around and moving Hack around are two different things as echo is for movement and Hack is for spotting enemies so I bet they wonât give that same kind of quick controls for Hack as they might think Crypto will be too strong.
Would be kind of insane to be able to direct a second pair of eyes while moving yourself. intel is king, and people hate wallhacks. Making it easier to scan people with the drone at no cost will effectively increase how often you are "wallhacked" in fights.
Except Cryptoâs âwallhacksâ are VERY different to Seerâs or Bloodhoundâs. Crypto needs his drone to have Line Of Sight to get that scan off, putting Hack (who is very loud, being hit, and has 50 health) directly in harmâs way Big risk n reward
Crypto is already highly picked in algs. Personally other than the bugs crypto has, I solo que to masters every season with him just fine. Not against the idea of giving him a non drone related passive.
Past the weird drone deploying and the bugs, the only thing I'd really want is to ADS and check nearby squads like how Seer and Vantage are able to use their passive. Bring Crypto in line with his fellow recons.
I tried to shoot it first time I saw it
That a f*cking cute screenshot
shooting the bat is the same feeling as dropping the penguin off the map Infront it's mother in Mario 64 ds
Echo is cute you leave the bat alone.
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Its not at all the same thing. Crypto can grab banners, scout, provide info, res people, and unleashes his ult. Echo literally provides a jump location and thats it. I think its fine as is.
While we're at it, let people shoot loba's tactical out of the sky and break path's grapple with bullets lmao
Seriously! This is why respawn canât cater to casuals because how the fuck are so many people on board with this idea. The bat literally gives away vantage position and follows her if she moves past 58 meters from it. Why would you want to destroy it in the first place? Just to stop her very vulnerable slow jump?
People tend to upvote for the meme "Let us kill the cute little bat!"
All while being vulnerable. So yeah itâs balanced
Don't forget instant servey beacon scan, instant opening vaults on WE if you have vault key in your inventory, ping banners to know number of squads within 200 meters of crypto and emp counters lots of shit like seer ult, Horizon ult, gibby bubble and more.
You aren't human but yes, you should be able to shoot Echo to counter Vantage's movement and to kill your own soul.
I mean killing humans is totally cool, but we're drawing the line at disease riddled flying rats?
yes
Yes
Indeed
A hundred percent
I have wasted COUNTLESS bullets on the stupid flying rat. LET ME KILL IT. I am tired of sniping thin air because itâs the only indestructible ability that just sits there taunting me.
Hovering there, menacingly.
I would like to shoot heat shield emitters
At least if shot at echo flies back to vantage and she has to redeploy it
The fact you see it at least tells you a vantage is nearby. She's not crypto, it can't be destroyed as of right now so let's get over this happening unless they address it.
Dear respawn I would like to shoot this person.that is all,thank you for your time.
Your a monster
Itâs simple⊠we KILL the batman
no
Am i the only one that never actually has him out itâs so inconsistent when you try and move him somewhere else
Only if we can destroy Loba's bracelet and shoot at Pathfinder's grapple to bring him out of the air
PETA has entered the chat
D:
I love Echo and don't want him to ever get hurt but there's another darker part of me that would think it would be really funny
No. Strongly in favor of the bat being Immortal. Too cute.
Itâs about sending a message
Why would you want to shoot the cute bat đ„ș
Better idea that dosent involved harming an innocent animal, just make nearby shots spook him, causing him to retreat to Vantage and give away her location while putting Echo on a cooldown