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Powneeboy

I hit plat for the 8th time this season solo queueing, so I'm pretty much a professional


ctaps148

3x Diamond solo queuer here. I like the direction they're going with ranked (playing to win should always matter more than racking up kills), but the side effect is that it takes wayyy too much time to rank up now. I haven't found it harder to rank up, just far more time consuming. Playing to win means a game needs to be 12-15 mins *minimum* just to get positive points. IMO, I think the mid-season ranked split demotion needs to be removed. You can still give the shiny badge to people who manage to reach their rank in the first half of the season, but dropping 4 tiers still seems too punitive in the current format.


AbbreviationsPlus115

Your fucking matchmaking is shit Respawn. It's trashcrap in normals, it's straight fucked for ranked, arenas 🤣, and control gets lopsided 80% of the time. Take a season and fix your fucking game and servers.


GBF_Dragon

Finally got my first heirloom and have a question. So, when you get your heirloom, you still get to open the pack that you were going to open afterwards. Does that start your new count towards the next 500 pitty compensation since it's opened after you got your shards?


DapperMudkip

Probably not, that extra pack is your 500th.


GBF_Dragon

This is my guess as well, thanks for the reply.


ThiccerThighs

I shouldn't have to play with any other input besides mouse and keyboard


ctaps148

I can tell this dude just got one-clipped by a racing wheel player


Zealocy

Maybe like halo- seperate ranked queues for each input so you can know its always fair


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ThiccerThighs

I get put in a lot of controller lobbies.. I mean mouse has its pros but there’s a reason why so many people use controller...it has a decent buff lol and I’d rather just turn off cross platform. Shit, fortnite used to have the button to turn off cross play. Is what it is though. A lot of my buddies are on controller and they complain about PC lobbies constantly so who knows ? 🤷‍♂️


CerberusDriver

Literally only level 65 and I'm getting lobbies full of Diamond and Masters, even seen a few Preds. How is this fun for anyone? Inb4 someone tells me I need to 'git gud'. This doesn't help me 'git gud', it makes me want to uninstall and play something else.


vky_007

they're chaning it buddy, google evan nikolich, open his twitter, and check the post where he got interviewed about ranked. they're making it fun like it used to be but can't in the middle of a season because that will affect the people who grinded the first split and their badges. game will be fun again in a few weeks when the new season comes out.


mr_adix

When looking at their snail pace development, i expect this to Hit in several months. Ive seen them make excuses before as of why they wont do changes midseason.


vky_007

they obviously cannot do it midseason, otherwise all the people who grinded super hard in the first split and their effort will become meaningless if there is a much easier ranked system for the next split and those guys get the same badges as the guys in the first split with half the effort. YET, they slightly made ranked easier for next split with the small changes. just wait for this season to be over things will be fine next season onwards.


RadPlaidLad

Uninstall and play something else, for your sake. It’ll only get worse.


EatinCheddarGoldfish

Won 9/10 placement games in arenas just to be put into silver 2, absolutely love it


royroyroypolly

Can anyone tell me if rewards are based off of highest rank? Or current rank? Thank you


koningx

Highest rank


royroyroypolly

Thank you. Anywhere I can read this?


vky_007

nope its current rank that you ended the split with


royroyroypolly

Nope, I just read it. It's based on highest RP threshold. Meaning highest rank for rewards


vky_007

this is a response from the guy who designs ranked on this subreddit. this should help: https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/uq3awz/question_about_ranked_demotion_and_rewards/ it's not highest rank achieved it's highest rank kept at end of split.


royroyroypolly

Literally says highest rank reached. Not kept lol


vky_007

literally read the comment below that one from the same guy: "preds need to stay in preds." you need glasses, and I'm guessing you're new to apex this is how it has always been.


royroyroypolly

Preds are the only ones that need to stay in Preds. Everyone else is highest rank achieved


vky_007

brug OMG this is too stupid. HOLY SHIT. NO, you will get the rank that you finish at at the end of the split. The preds is just an example of a rank. Wait 4 days when the split ends and see for yourself. You are just way too butthurt my guy that you couldn't get the rank you wanted it's okay calm down it's a video game.


royroyroypolly

Highest rank kept at the split? So it's just current rank then why word it like that?


vky_007

or you could just wait 4 days and find out yourself if this is too difficult.


peanutallergylmao

I can't imagine the game being any worse than it is this season holy shiiiiieet.


GeneralTullius01

It would be cool if Xbox could play the game. Good thing Respawn won’t even acknowledge the issue other than a tweet reply. I assume this will be broke for at least a month and I’ll re install once it’s figured out.


PinoDegrassi

My one x plays it great save for some network issues occasionally


Soborian

Is anyone having problems getting a third in ranked ? 3 games in a row a friend and I haven’t gotten a third loaded in. Is this a bug or just unlucky ?


LordBellarus

I'm glad I have a career outside gaming. Good luck to those who made this game your life. ​ May the Gods' bless you your hairline and lack of IRL talent.


ohsnapitserny

Bro really bringing people down because he's ass at the game


LordBellarus

That being said: I solo queued to plat. Not my proudest accomplishment - actually I'll put that on my resume. :P


McSpicyChicken729

Discussion: I got banned for making fun of people of people and sabotaging. I don't think it's fair as it's something not serious. I'm just having fun. Well I do that and curse but like I barely say them. Idk I'm kinda mad cos im temp banned (again) for seven days and won't see the new ranked. Give me your opinions


ThiccerThighs

Honestly this comment and your other comments make you sound extremely young and immature


McSpicyChicken729

Yeah nice job you commented a useless comment 👍🏿


McSpicyChicken729

Yeah nice job you commented a useless comment 👍🏿


PinoDegrassi

How were you sabotaging?


McSpicyChicken729

Telling my teammates to rush then don't rush and laugh. Using the tridents near the edge and throwing myself off cliff and I wouldn't res my teammates. And ofc I break loba ults. Also I shoot for no reason to give away our position. I don't take the game seriously and spend my time chatting and making fun of my teammates. Don't believe I'm banned: my username is McChicken983398 on Xbox. Hehe


PinoDegrassi

Lmao this is all so stupid. You must have some real life shit going on to be that much of an asshole and act proud of it. Find something that’s worth your time instead of ruining other people’s.


McSpicyChicken729

it's just a game why you have to be mad. Also i have spare time so I rather make fun of my teammates than just sitting there on my phone. And yes I'm very proud. Also I only do it when I feel like it. I barely do it. Most times I play with my buddies who also don't take the game seriously and just camp and leave when shot at. Also like I said I barely do it. Only when I'm bored. Also how can I check my friends list on my banned acc. I need to tell my buddy I got banned (which is bull cos I had 3 strikes and used only 2. Jk I used as many I could haha


PinoDegrassi

People play to have fun. You are actively working against that when you yourself could be having fun not being an asshole. It isn’t complicated. Don’t play team based games if you aren’t playing with friends then.


McSpicyChicken729

I will follow 100% this guy advice and do what this guy said to me in a reddit comment. Haha


PinoDegrassi

Lol it’s ironic that you’re making a joke out of it cause millions of people use Reddit for advice all the time. YTA.


McSpicyChicken729

Sorry grand master. I made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgement, and I don’t expect to be forgiven. I’m simply here to apologise. What we came across in the woods that day was obviously unplanned. The reactions you saw on tape were raw; they were unfiltered. None of us knew how to react or how to feel. I should have never posted the video. I should have put the cameras down and stopped recording what we were going through. There's a lot of things I should have done differently but I didn't. And for that, from the bottom of my heart, I am sorry. I want to apologise to the internet. I want to apologise to anyone who has seen the video. I want to apologise to anyone who has been affected or touched by mental illness, or depression, or suicide. But most importantly I want to apologise to the victim and his family. For my fans who are defending my actions, please don't. I don’t deserve to be defended. My goal with my content is always to entertain; to push the boundaries, to be all-inclusive. In the world live in, I share almost everything I do. The intent is never to be heartless, cruel, or malicious. Like I said I made a huge mistake. I don’t expect to be forgiven, I’m just here to apologise. I'm ashamed of myself. I’m disappointed in myself. And I promise to be better. I will be better. Thank you. -Logan Paul


PinoDegrassi

I didn’t read a word of this, ya know I just don’t take comments too seriously so no point.


vky_007

I think you should be banned for a month instead


McSpicyChicken729

Please don't be angry. Haha like I care I got a alt


vky_007

you're a loser and you know it lol


McSpicyChicken729

Interesting comment I will definitely rethink my choices and be better in the future. This will never happen again


vky_007

Nobody cares about what you have to say coward.


McSpicyChicken729

"coward"? Do you even you what that means. Haha you definitely said a random word cos you got your feelings hurt


vky_007

Feelings hurt? You don't matter at all lol.


McSpicyChicken729

So why you replying


datscray

I’d say apex’s moderation definitely seems like it can be weirdly lax at certain times and way too strict at other times from posts I’ve seen on here, but what you’ve described here does sound like you were being a jerk. Rule of thumb: don’t be a jerk, it isn’t hard. Even if the person you’re playing with is a jerk, doesn’t give you a free pass. Sabotaging games on purpose just sucks for everybody involved.


McSpicyChicken729

Interesting


peanutallergylmao

I got banned a week on an alt account for calling someone a dumbass on text chat, soft report system.


McSpicyChicken729

Yeah but I said 24/7 now the words "Fuk" "Betch" "Ho" and "shit" are banned. Well I don't really care I have a alt acc and my main account is just to troll so HA


KingOfTheCouch13

Your version of fun is ruining everyone else’s fun. If the majority of people and respawn have a problem with your behavior you need to either 1. reevaluate your definition of fun in this particular game or 2. Find other people who also enjoy your version of fun. No one is getting on apex after a shitty day to get cussed at and lose. It’s obnoxious.


McSpicyChicken729

I do play with people who also laugh with me but this bad apple called me the N word on his mic so I cursed him by saying bad words in different spelling and he said he was gonna report me so I started trolling him and he got mad at me and reported I got banned for saying "Fuk u". When I easily could've reported him but I'm not like that. And I take the game seriously sometimes... When I make it top 10. I should've added that part in but I wanted to see your real opinion rather than saying he said the N word you'd be on my side. Well reply and I delete this comment


Jestersage

He maybe baiting you. He may actually be the real troll. Protip: Don't type. Disable text chat. Unless you record them and send it to hideouts, nothing on voice chat get banned. How they play would not get you banned, be they hot drop full send, or ratting outside of the ring (and in fact, the initial S13 ranked pretty much force you to rat outside of the ring).


McSpicyChicken729

Nah I stole his shield and then let him die. He cursed at me so I obviously told him to pull up


Melkion9

I guess reach plat in this split is like if I reach diamond in the past season right?


Illustrious-Party120

Yeah so it means nothing


SirDoge14

I reached gold 1 yesterday and my team couldve gone way higher but we all have a job and work different shifts. You need so much time to rank up


timbo_slice59

If they fix the matchmaking I think overall the ranked changes are good. Maybe lower the entry cost a little bit


SubtleAesthetics

I'd love to hear Respawn devs saying "plats fighting top 20 preds who are stacked means matchmaking is working as intended" Cause that's literally happening now. Remember when plats fought plats and the occasional diamond 4, not top 100 predator players? Also, since early KP is worth so little and placement matters much more (multipliers on that KP) you have to fight literal masters/pred teams to gain RP...in platinum. What's the point of matchmaking when it isn't matching people of equal skill?


vky_007

it's not, they're completely changing ranked again. check evan nikolich on twitter and read the interview.


sodapopgumdroplowtop

unrelated to ranked but rev ult sucks SO fucking bad. it’s nothing but a liability. im sick of losing perfectly good games bc of it


blobbob1

Rev ult is really strong, if your team is coordinated. If you're soloqueuing then rev is a throw


sodapopgumdroplowtop

it’s throwing either way tbh. it looks and sounds like an atom bomb going off, it attracts the entire lobby. it might just be the worst ult in the entire game, and i play mirage. mine doesn’t even work half the time. id still rather gamble on decoys getting stuck or dying to nothing than place a death totem, even if i don’t use it


TalentlessNoob

I want to see a reworked ult too, even if it was just silent or had unlimited death protection etc 🤔


sodapopgumdroplowtop

pretty much anything is better than what we have


HypericSam

I feel like I am in a very weird spot being in gold 1. I keep getting paired with silvers and gold 4s and we cant ever win a 3v3 and I lose like 200 RP. Then I drop to gold 2 and get gold 2 and gold 1 players and we win every 3v3 and the game and I get 200RP extra in gold 1 and the cycle continues. I am legit losing my mind with this, would love to pair with anyone in gold 1 or 2 to get over this (EU servers).


Swuit

Silver 1 and I got paired with all bronze IV and 3 today and now I’m back to silver 2. And most champions were gold. So I dunno how I’m suppose to compete. I picked up playing again less than a month ago and it’s just frustrating being teamed with people who kind of don’t know how to play.


protestified

DUDE SAME I SWEAR EVER SINCE I GOT TO GOLD 1 ITS BEEN A SHIT SHOW


HypericSam

I would say I am glad I am not alone but this is so depressing that others are going through this shit show.


toni-toni-cheddar

theres no way im willingly losing rp with this xbox fiasco. im playing naraka till it blows over


pools89

Agreed,, I've routinely gained rp in Plat and I've dropped like a stone to gold, just getting absolutely shit on in gold 1 now. My audio is absolutely fucked. No footsteps since the update so everyone just fly/graps/walks right up on me and shoots me in the head, probably wondering wtf that guy was doing. One game I was ratting in a crevice and a whole ass Valk team landed on me with not a single audio cue until they were right on my head This game is fucked and respawn is lucky I just don't delete it and move on So fuckin tired of this nonsense, basic in game shit not working is fuckin ridiculous. I can see something like a Valk or Loba bracelet bug, especially on new maps or with newer legends, but basic shit like game chat not working for 3 months or footstep audio not working for 3 years and just absolutely tanking after the last update is fuckin ridiculous. Respawn proving everyday my decision to not spend anymore money on this POS was the right one


LongBeachKillah

I’m never gonna make it out of bronze 2


iinabsentia

Its always impressive how bad the average apex player actually is.


chillcapturedev

this is kind of a rude way to put it but it’s actually pretty accurate. seeing so many complaining about being stuck in silver and gold blows my mind


Swuit

I don’t think it’s rude as someone who is silver 1 / silver 2 after getting teamed with bronze 4 and 3 All day vs gold. It’s hard to move up, I know I’m not great but I’ve also only been playing for like amonth after not playing since like season 3. I feel if I had some decent teammates or people with mics I’d do better. Some times I’ll push with my team we all push, I knock two and go down, I then watch them fail to push the last guy or they panicked and retreat back and let him res. I don’t know how to fix that unless we just don’t ever engage in fights.


overwatchacct

I would really like to just have a stat that tells me what my percentile is within the entire group of people who are playing ranked. Like, what % of people do I have more RP than? It is so confusing to track if I'm actually getting better from season to season when the definitions of the divisions keep changing so much.


HereNorThere0

Apex tracker has a website that tells you , also shows u stats of how the ranks are divided I.e 20% plat 3 , 12 % plat 3. It also tells you your stats as long as you have the trackers on your banner in game


Uhcoustic

iirc the trackers only count people who have looked up their profile, so it's not an accurate accounting.


HereNorThere0

Ah didn’t know that , Ty


KoreyCreative

Ranked is more EA and/ or Respawn self marketing than an actual place where players can compete in a fair environment. No matter how much EA and/ or Respawn try to convey that Apex Legends Ranked is competitive, it simply isn't. The very nature of the Battle Royale genre is being built upon randomness and/ or the addition that controller users get access to aim assistance make it truly uncompetitive. A) The zone, items, weapons and/ or ingame assets change from one game to the next, unless someone is a psychic, the mode will always be uncompetitive. Sitting around in a Ranked game just waiting out teams is not competitive in my mind. B) No level of aim assistance is fair. I continue to hear the argument that controller users deserve aim assist because mouse & keyboard have advantages, but then those same users choose to use controller over mouse & keyboard even while on PC. My point is if mouse & keyboard had that big of advantage, why wouldn't controller users change when given the possibility. In my mind controller users try to play mouse & keyboard and switch back because of how hard it is.


TheDevCoddler

If respawn let me play with mnk on playstation I'd do that. That's how I played cod and it was much better than controller, even with the mouse controls feeling like dogshit on console. Not everyone is delusional enough to think controller aim assist is op.


HereNorThere0

You have a lot more movement freedom with MnK. Controller has AA . Pick your poison.


Infinite_Elephant179

Controller players getting aim assist doesn’t make it un competitive what dude 😂


KoreyCreative

In your opinion it might not, but in mine it does. My opinion of competition is that everyone has access to a fair environment. I do not consider controllers benefiting from aim assistance while mouse & keyboard get nothing to be fair. Now if we were talking about console Apex Legends, then sure that could be a little competitive, not much, but way closer then PC lobbies.


TheDevCoddler

Bad players that can't take advantage of using an objectively superior control method (mnk) are always whinging and making excuses about "rollas" being overpowered


customcombos

His argument works in reverse for himself too. If aim assist is so unfair, why doesn't he use a controller? Aim assist (maybe) evens the playing field for controller players who use 4-6 fingers to play whereas a M&K user uses 8-9 fingers as well as their wrist/elbow/arm. M&K users beaming people from 150 meters out with a car should invalidate any "AiM AsSisT iS uNfAiR aNd BrOkEn" arguments


KoreyCreative

My argument can't be reversed because controllers are 70% of Apex Legends PCs including myself (80 - 90% of the time). Once the successful COD streamers came over to Apex Legends, controllers started to take the majority. Have you ever personally used a mouse & keyboard in Apex Legends PC?, I ask because your comment is odd to me. I've been trying to learn mouse & keyboard gameplay for about 2 months and my left hand uses 3 fingers for WASD (sometimes Q), pinky for CTRL and/ or SHIFT and thumb for SPACEBAR (index moves to G and/ or E when needed). I honestly prefer my controller anyday compared to a keyboard, I think keyboard is a nightmare.s You know how many times I hit the wrong key during a fight or try to back up with S and can't for the life of me hit R to reload and/ or try holding W+A and hit Q for abilities.. Now if I'm using my controller it's a different ballgame. Crouch, WASD (+auto-sprint enabled) just my thumb. So much less work my brain has to do. The only thing I think a mouse & keyboard has is the ability to be consistent. So yeah, I think controller users are mostly biased because they haven't played with mouse & keyboard, but just use the same arguments over and over to defend aim assistance. I've said this when Apex Legends released even while I was playing the title with a controller. I don't think it's fair that aim assist affects mouse & keyboard players being the PC ecosystem. The game wasn't designed to be competitive, just fun. In a fun environment I don't care about aim assistance at all to be honest, but if Respawn wants Apex Legends to be competitive, you either have to A) have non-aim assist servers or B) completely remove aim assistance in Ranked gameplay. I'm a controller user who thinks this. Just my opinion.


customcombos

Have not played apex on a m&k but have played lots of overwatch and paladins on m&k and I understand that it's harder to get used to if you've been playing with a controller all your life but I guaretee if you put in the practice with m&k, you'll appreciate that absolute freedom you get with abilities, movements, and long distance aim. You mentioned that it's easier to use your thumbs for most stuff but this means you can't jump(or valk jet pack)/adjust aim simultaneously, or reload and adjust aim, or look at the ground and pick up loot while adjusting aim for specific items. With a keyboard you can use 2-3 fingers to move (left index, middle, ring) as well as the pinky (totally unused on console) to help with crouching and thumb on spacebar to help with perfectly timing those juicy wall bounces without removing your ability to adjust aim. And on your right side, you use your thumb on side mouse buttons, index middle and maybe ring on mouse clickers, in addition to the fact you don't have to use you're right thumb to aim as that only requires your wrist/arm. It's much easier to find good bindings that you like on m&k Controllers players also cannot move/strafe while looting as easily. Not to mention the complete lack of ability to tap strafe. All the problems you described with mouse and keyboard are just issues you have because you lack practice/probably grew up playing on controller. You said you think m&k is more consistent. Think about how important it is to be consistent. Out of curiosity, and I hope this doesn't come off as rude, but why do you think they would put aim assist in in the first place if things between controller and m&k are already even stevens? Edit: holy run-on sentences, batman lol my bad


KoreyCreative

​​I'm sorry, but I don't think the mouse & keyboard and/ or controllers (with or without aim assistance) are even and/ or balanced, nor did I mean to sound like I did. When I said, "I think Apex Legends should feature non-aim assistance servers for a fair environment" I'm meaning aim assistance (the software) isn't fair because of how it works. While I do believe both input devices are quite different from one another and each have their own strengths, I don't think giving controllers always-on software is the right direction if Respawn is trying to make Apex Legends into a competitive title. Technically Respawn started the unbalanced features by giving features to mouse & keyboard, but not to the controller. So in my opinion the right direction would be to give controllers the same levels of sensitivity and/ or key bindings found on mouse & keyboard first before just adding aim assistance. I don't look at aim assistance in Apex Legends as an input device balancing feature or an accessibility feature, but more of a marketing ploy for EA and/ or Respawn to sell more product/s. Yes, you heard me correct. I think aim assistance in Apex Legends is mostly used to upsell in-game assets like skins, nothing to do with balance. If aim assistance was truly used by Respawn as a balancing feature in Apex Legends, why do consoles even have it being they mostly only play versus other controller players, because in my opinion that doesn't make sense. I think Respawn didn't know Apex Legends was going to be as popular as it did, so it had no intentions of the title becoming competitive in nature. So they slapped on some aim assistance without thinking of it and shipped it out the door. In case I still made it confusing, I think aim assistance shouldn't be used in a competitive title because of how much it directly helps the user. It could be totally true that a mouse & keyboard is a superior input device for first person shooters, but that's not my argument. I'm arguing that aim assistance works above any one human could achieve, and by doing so creates an unfair environment. It works above any one human by tracking players without delay, plus through most foliage and/ or Legend abilities. So in my opinion there are better alternatives than to slap on aim assistance and call something balanced, those being to make each input device as equal in terms of ingame settings and/ or behavior first, then see how they work together. Sorry about the wall.


henrysebby

Control is the only thing keeping me playing Apex right now


Mobile_Internet1980

Your game is dog shit i gave up on it totally this season im done i was hyped for valks heirloom didnt even buy it uninstalled your game and went back to cod an fort bc your rank system is ass i solo Q shouldnt have to 3 stack in every game i play pubs are boring playing with people who have kds under 1.0 And mine is 2.5 which is not the best but its good for my ps account you need to fore your whole team and get a new one


AgedShadows

More environmental nerfs to Wattson/Rampart, i can no longer place fences on top of the IMC armories, can somebody explain to me why these are being implemented, why isn’t there voided placements for grav lifts, or Gibby bubble, or caustic grenades, I can keep going, but come on, this is ridiculous now, no other legends have these kinds of restrictions except for Wattson/Rampart, this is now across all maps, there’s honestly no reason to even consider picking them now in ranked, completely unviable in higher comp


fimosecritica

good, need some tweaking on the points to join match specially solo but good overall, now the bad thing is playing pubs like its ranked, three stacking and touching tips


pools89

Absolutely no footsteps on series X since the update. Gone down a full rank level because of it, gg respawn I didn't think this game could get any worse but you guys are great at it I used to play COD in fucking 07-08 and footsteps weren't a problem Ranked is impossible to play rn on Series X. Disappointing because the gunplay and legend abilities make this game the best fps out there but respawn and EA continue to not give a single shit


ABYSS_WALKER8

I also play on series X and the game just feels bad. I consistently feel like I’m a second or two behind everyone else especially in gun fights. Sluggish is a good way to put it.


JollyProfessor9409

I love how I can’t play with my friends who are in Silver (I’m currently Plat), but while I’ve been grinding through both Gold and Plat lobbies I have currently ranked Masters and Preds that drop… And I know they currently hold their ranks because I observe them after I get killed. Makes a ton of sense, Respawn…


Neversoft4long

This is quite literally the worse rank season ever and because of that it’s affecting the pubs lobbies to the point people just aren’t playing anymore. Couple that with next gen Xbox being fucked along with server issues here and there on PC I can actually see the writing on the wall for the downfall of this game.


t00tsiepopper

I understand why respawn made the changes that they did. There were a ton of players that were hitting masters, then just sitting at 10K and they didn’t like that for some reason. The problem I have with this system now is I feel like I’m not getting any type of reward or incentive to keep playing. Having been able to hit diamond solo Qing mostly within 2 weeks in the past, to now barely being able to hit plat 4 just feels very discouraging. Plat 4 lobbies right now are so much tougher than the old diamond lobbies. Bc instead of playing other diamond players, virtually every other fight I take in plat is against a masters squad, and every 4-5 fights has a pred or 2. It’s turned rank into such a skewed player pool that it just doesn’t even feel fun I could hang in Old diamond and gain points against players of similar skill. In this new system I’m just getting reamed by players way above my skill in a full tier rank lower than before


fimosecritica

thats because in reality most masters weren't masters, not being rude, you probably weren't a diamond either if you're struggling to get to plat now, i got to plat 2 with a friend but went back to p4 because i played like shit and randoms were trash too but that was on me, when i get my mobo back i will grind to at least diamond


t00tsiepopper

That def has something to do with it. This season I’ve gone from playing 5 days a week and getting long sessions in on the weekend, to just playing a couple nights after work. I can tell my skill has dropped as last season I was a 1.3, and this I’m sitting at a 1.15 I still don’t think for a second it justifies having to play the type of players you see in every P4 match, but maybe with the changes coming next week the skill levels will normalize more


overwatchacct

The dude replying to you is straight up wrong. If you were placing diamond in season 10 or other seasons prior to season 12/13, it meant you were in maybe the top 10-15% of players. Right this moment in the current season, if you are placing Plat 4 that means you are in the top 10% of players. So nothing has changed about your skill, and it isn't the case that you weren't a "real diamond" before, the definition of what it means to be diamond has just changed. Now instead of diamond being a top 10-15% player it's someone who is top \~2%.


fimosecritica

i mean, my kdr is 2.1 this season when last season was 3 but the issue is that last season master players are frustrated that they are going nowhere in ranked and are holding hands in pubs too, that is just lame, they are killing the game they play


t00tsiepopper

The bleed through to pubs this season has been ridiculous. I think a lot of the players you’re talking about just gave up once they saw where they were gonna get stuck at. But ranked is what I find the most fun so most of my playtime just stays there


Xechwill

I like the push towards late-game stuff and going for placement with kills, but the RP loss is way too punishing. Mathematically, the net RP gained across all Plat players is LOWER than the net RP lost for entry. As a result, climbing out of plat is extremely difficult, and results in pred lobbies consisting of plat, masters, and diamond.


t00tsiepopper

I agree in that when you make a final ring it’s so Much more fun than it used to be bc so many teams are playing carefully to make it further than ever before. But it’s honestly very discouraging to have what I would consider a good game. Like 5-7 kills and really good damage, but you finish in 8th place so you only get like 6 points lol


ToucanSam1221

Then you lose off drop to some bs(speaking as a solo q'r), and lose ten times that amount of rp. Entry costs are dropping though..


washthelaundry

Would love to see a game mode that is just original fragment in a tiny ring with increased loot spawns and 30 players instead of 60. Ring fulls closes in 10 minutes.


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Shortly put, this is only season for 3 stacks, or pro level players. Everyone else gets fucked hard. Unless they're willing to leave their team mates into dust though. edit: ah Ratting still gets one quite far though. So, give up your team mates, rat away! That's the Br way. edit: Oh yeah, as my experience, the rookie, or challenger or whatever it's called, rank is the hardest unsurprisingly, because... holy hell the amount of smurf accounts is insane. So people who are new to the game, are getting the worst, wrong impression of the level in the game. I think the lower levels have always been so, with a freetoplay, but still. This season has gone so so much worse, because most people stop at gold and then just smurf to make themselves feel better, because they're petty little fuckheads.


Equal_Kick3361

Bro i should not be able to sit in a corner all game with no points to get positive rp gain vs get 12 points and die before top 5 for the same amount even if i “survived longer” that style of play is absolutely braindead boring and ruins the game when everybody is playing that way its not worth the risk at all to take fights this new ranked suuuucks


sgstoags

The games are too long, even in gold III its taken 15 mins just to get to top 10. If you finish top 5 it’s easily 25 minutes. Not to mention the final circle has 7 or 8 teams in it sometimes! That means the first 20 mins of the game are spent looting and running away from fights. Not enjoyable experience


DapperMudkip

Are the “you don’t belong in your rank” douchebags ready to put on their clown noses on yet? You know who you are.


DorkusMalorkuss

What sucks about Apex - i dunno about other BR's - is that sometimes when you lose, it feels like you didn't even get to play. I solo q and this season have made it to Plat 4. I'm stoked they finally added demotion, but it's been pretty shitty. In Plat, I've come across 3 stacks that are so coordinated that the fight between them and my team is sometimes over within seconds. You purposefully drop somewhere far from other teams, loot, then you die 10 minutes later to someone with a Pred badge in a fight that lasts 10 seconds because your teammate is a gold 2 who brought their silver 2 friend along and you just fought former preds. I mean, say you have 2 hours to play and you just spent 15 minutes of that time having that experience, it feels pretty shitty. Perhaps it is BR's. I'm being a salty bitch about it, but after denoting back to gold 1 3 times I've just moved back to Rocket League til next split.


marathon664

I mean, yeah. That's BR. The gameplay is survival, and gunplay is just one component of it. The shitty queuing exacerbates it, but if you don't enjoy the parts of the game that aren't actively fighting, then you would probably enjoy some other genre of game more.


henrysebby

Completely agree. Control has been a savior.


CasualRascal

> is that sometimes when you lose, it feels like you didn't even get to play This is nothing new and has always been the case with most popular BRs. PUBG is the worst since you can loot for WAY longer and die WAY quicker. Warzone you get the Gulag but even then that feeling remains to some degree. I think wholly the appeal of BRs has withered away for most and they're on their way out. Looting and running sucks but at least in Apex it's somewhat fast. Why do you think they brought back Control?


Munstered

Hey, I found myself in the same boat. It might help to play other game modes (Arena, Control) instead of just BR. If I have 2 hours to play, I'll spend half my time doing Arena or Control and then do a few games of BR. It's less burnout and I feel like my BR games are better because I've been warming up with constant action as opposed to playing loot simulator 85% of the time


AmazingPaladin

Thought I’d try ranked this season with all the changes. Hit plat4 the second week and haven’t touched it since.


YaKnowMuhSteezz

Sameeeeeee.


henrysebby

Right there with you


007chill

Ranked was the most fun thing about Apex for me every season. I got Pred the first two ranked seasons (before top 750) then once more in Season 7. Past that point I just haven't felt like the grind is worth it because I just want to play with my friends - LFGing is honestly worse than just solo queueing to me - so I will get Masters with my crew then help a few others gets to around Plat. This season is just so lame once you hit Diamond, honestly. There are Pred teams in every single lobby. People saying Plat gets them have no idea, it's not *every* match in Plat. Because of this, getting top 5 EVERY match (which is basically what you need to do to climb in Diamond) is gatekept by pros in 3 stacks. My teammates that I usually get to Master with stopped playing ranked entirely. My current cycle is derank to Plat1 -> solo queue 4 matches -> rank to Diamond -> derank. Platinum is FAR FAR FAR too easy for me even when solo queueing but Diamond is just a wall? Makes no sense. ​ edit: [graph of my "progress" lol](https://i.ibb.co/YtSgRPq/image.png) [Pro player Dezignful is frustrated too!](https://streamable.com/az5ta6)


zackman40

I'm in the same boat as you my man. Multi season masters and currently bouncing between d3/d4 for the past 3 weeks. Every single game at this point just feels like a chore.


Spicybeatle7192

Same here. I am okay with it personally. I really dislike how people say that plat is too hard and they feel they are diamond worthy though, because they have no idea the difference in between a plat and a diamond lobby right now. If they struggle in plat because top 5 every game is too hard they are literally not ready for diamond lobbies at all LOL.


SnizzPants

You're describing the same experience for most of us players at Plat IV too. The only time I'm knocked out in Plat is by those with Masters badges (occasionally pred but usually Masters). Gold is incredibly easy, Plat you hit a wall of top players. Which makes sense when you look at the numbers and see that player-base is so small it's no wonder they are queuing with plats.


BlindChair

Yeah so your true rank is diamond, don't see what the issue is. Not everyone should be able to get to pred.


CallMeSpoofy

you are a very very very dumb person if that’s what you got from that comment


Robertius

Not OP, but he's getting gatekept at Diamond because of the Pred 3-stacks, if the ranked system was functional then he should be able to climb in Diamond as Plat is too easy, but he can't because of the Preds + ridiculously high entry costs. This guy is probably a true Master in this system but because the matchmaking is shit he isn't.


007chill

Then let me play against other Diamonds so I can prove it's not :) Are the pros (current Preds on their main accounts) attempting to solo queue to Master and stuck in Diamond also "true rank" of Diamond? Or *maybe* is the current system bad? hmmm


BlindChair

Should it really be possible to solo queue to the highest rank though? This is a team game so a solo player is at a huge disadvantage and realistically shouldn't be able to reach the same rank as a pro 3 stack. I say this as someone that has solo queued 20k games in apex. You just can't compete with 3 stacks it's the nature of this game.


ApexIsRigged

>This is a team game Then why do we have individual ranks? Should be a team rank and you're stuck with that team all split. If I can solo to plat and then be carried by 2 pros to masters and I am masters or plat player? The team game argument is a cop out. The best players absolutely should be able to reach the top ranks because the top ranks are for those with the most skill. Pros shouldn't be hard stuck diamond.


007chill

Ah so the 'true rank' sentiment is just out the window now, got it. Just 3 stack.


BlindChair

Your true solo rank, yeah. You getting salty about this is like Cristiano Ronaldo starting a team with randoms from his town and getting upset that they can't win the world cup. That doesn't make him not the best player in the world though.


piperskee

I solo Q ranked this season after not playing any apex since season 7. Started off having a blast. Played the best I could, was able to impact the game and get a kill/down opponent in a battle. Then I hit silver 4 and my game had to change in order to rank up. In bronze I was paired with well intended teammates, yet the change to silver seemed to carry with it toxic teammates. My strategy had to change to a everyman for himself mode, where I ran like a scared rabbit from most fights just to not engage until less than 7 squads left. Playing ranked stopped being fun at this point. What I learned was for solo q'ing I meet my match at silver 4. If I want to climb higher (without just hiding every game until end of the match) I would need a squad where we work as a team - which I don't have rn. I stopped playing ranked. So now I play pubs and I'm stomping, just smashing lobbies. Of course, soon I will get paired with like kind or better in my pub games, algorithm will find me a hard matches to play- it always does. I guess it's just the way of the gun.


Lostdogdabley

Weird, I’m plat 1 solo rn trying so hard to get diamond. My max in the past was diamond 3


KilledByKill

I cry a little every time I see my teammates and then the champion squad. Might as well start abandoning games at this point cuz I’m losing points anyways what the fuck


washthelaundry

So hyped for the new ranked changes coming in 2nd split. Not to mention WE is the map too. The change in KP values is gonna be a huge boost and the -10 in all RP costs is nice as well. Really just getting off SP will be great.


n3sgee

Is the rp cost reduction live? Or coming next split?


washthelaundry

Next split


n3sgee

Thank you. I thought they would have just pushed it.


DonkeyKongBone

As someone who’s been solo queuing this whole season, I made it to gold 1…. I’d say a good 95% of my matches were spent playing with gold 3-4 team mates. I don’t know how this is seen as good match making. How the fuck am I supposed to have a chance going up against a 3 stack gold 1 team when I get randos who are obviously way worse at the game. Why even bother allowing *rookie* players into a gold lobby? I’d like to see what lobby I’m loading into.. why gold 1 players are getting matched with players 2-3 levels lower is baffling. It’s extremely unfair, it’s like the game wants you to lose.


SkyObjective8298

Why wouldn’t gold 1 get matched with gold 4 lmao


DonkeyKongBone

Giant skill gap. Last season, not a problem. Probably similarly skilled. This season though it’s different. Climbing out of silver is fairly easy. I’m hard stuck in plat 4, and I don’t see myself getting matched with plat 1 players. Obviously the difference between plat 4/1 are huge. Same applies to Gold.


SkyObjective8298

>I shouldn’t get matched with people literally in the same tier as me 😂😂😂😂


DonkeyKongBone

Obviously a troll account. 2 hours old and nothing but negative remarks. Have a good one bud, hope you get your life together.


SkyObjective8298

Lmao you’re legit having a mental breakdown and throwing insults because someone told you gold = gold you need a lot of help


Tekbepimpin

I’m sorry that this is the way you have to attract attention.


SkyObjective8298

Boring objective takes like gold=gold? Lmao is this the same person on a dif account? The correlation between reddit account age and social deficiency is amazing


Electronic-Morning76

Stop solo queuing. It’s a team based game. Fortnite doesn’t even let you solo queue ranked.


chillcapturedev

ya guys just stop solo queuing. it’s that simple


Electronic-Morning76

I don’t care if I get 5000 downvotes. Find a team. It’s 2022. There’s the internet. And guess what? The new changes have encouraged people to look. Stop being toxic. Stop leaving a team because of 1 bad game. It took me 3 weeks of genuine work to find people online. And I found them. It’s not rocket science.


CallMeSpoofy

If the matchmaking is so shit you need to find a solid team to play and enjoy the game, the MM is shit. I can play other “team games” solo q’ing and have fun games. You should be allowed to solo q in a team game. When the matchmaking in Apex allows you to have a fair match, it’s still fun.


Electronic-Morning76

Being in a rank and being able to clear a rank are different requirements. You should eventually reach a cap where you can no longer solo queue through this ranked system. Unless you are a professional/outlier level talent. It’s not a stretch to say that once you hit platinum you should basically have to find a team. If you can’t solo queue Gold you have improvements you can make. I’m 33. I’m a 1.5 kd player. I’m ok. I cleared gold 2-platinum solo queuing in 6 hours. It’s not that hard to do if you are a good player. Try to focus on what you can improve upon if you’re going to refuse to find teammates. Trust me if you’re stuck in gold you are not some infallible godly teammate.


ImLaggingBroo

Bro you're G1 and think you're soo much better than G3/G4.


steederson

The elitist mindset some of these people have based on having a slightly better rank than someone else is crazy lol


Spacemonkey327

I’m in plat and can say there is a huge skill difference between plat 4 and plat 1. This also applies to gold


henrysebby

Yep, this. Being a higher tier within the same rank absolutely means you're better, and I'm not trolling or anything. It shows you understand how to gain RP within the rank instead of being a hardstuck IV who's doomed to demote. People complaining about (rank here) I's having a superiority complex probably don't have to deal with IVs ruining their games because they are the IVs.


Spacemonkey327

Some people don’t want to hear that though


anon847382

I’m currently gold 3 and still consistently have bronze teammates while getting fucking DESTROYED by 3 stack teams. I mean I can get a down or two but then that last guy will down me and my two teammates are just shooting at who knows what and get killed. Like zero game sense. Just win a fight and stand around for 5 minutes looting and shit.


IMeltHoboOaf

Just waiting for some other company to step up to the plate and create a good movement shooter…until then, it’s this game and OW2 I guess lol.


SatoriCatchatori

God it’s such a shame OW went in such a dumb direction used to be so fun in like 2016


DreadCore_

OW went downhill when they added more stale, one-dimensional characters instead of making their existing ones more interesting to play.


SatoriCatchatori

I actually agree whole heartedly. It seems with every new hero release the game just got dumber and dumber


IMeltHoboOaf

Yeah I’ve never been so hyped about a game as I was for OW. I played the absolute hell out of it for like 2 years. What a game. Amazing how badly they ruined it. 5v5 makes the game a lot more fun, now that there’s less tanks/shields to shoot at. I don’t know how long the fun will last, but I’m gonna give it a shot for a bit.


SatoriCatchatori

Yea it’s astonishing how much they fucked everything up. It seems like as time went on the game just kept getting worse and worse.


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MawJayDay

Found the dogshit player


ApexIsRigged

You should be glad they are smurfing. If smurfing ruins the game for new players, then perhaps RSPN will adjust matchmaking so players aren't as incentivized to smurf. Until then, keep ruining the game and killing their new player engagement.


washthelaundry

If you want to play the game just to play against people worse than you, you're playing the game wrong. Might as well just go sit in the firing range all day.


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washthelaundry

Fix what? It's not broken you're just so bad it can't put you in lobbies with worse players?


ApexIsRigged

So a solo plat/diamond player should play against endless 3-stack master/pred teams in pubs and ranked while getting lower skilled teammates? How is that any more fair than them smurfing and being a solo plat/diamond player against new people?


washthelaundry

Who said anything about fair? I'm not taking some moral high ground here. I'm saying to this particular user that if he can't get wins after bronze 1, he's trash.


polish_my_grappel

Who said I cant get wins? Ive hit high Diamond consistently since Season 2. Im tired of putting noobs in my backpack so they have fun at my expense. When Respawn fixes ranked matchmaking, I'll play fair again. Until then, the new players are going to have a bad time. Some will quit and the player base will shrink. GOOD. Loss of players and money will motivate Respawn to make changes. Get off your moral high horse. Its a game


washthelaundry

Dm me your stats if you're so good


polish_my_grappel

I literally owe you nothing. You can get DMed these nuts


washthelaundry

Probably the same as your stats


polish_my_grappel

Your opinion means nothing to me. I will continue to smurf until Respawn fixes matchmaking/ranked. I feel no shame or remorse 🤷‍♂️


Autoloc

imagine being afraid of good players but viewing yourself as a good player


ApexIsRigged

Even fall guys has a solo mode.


henrysebby

Lol