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imsorrymo

it wasn’t specifically targeting somali women but i saw this arab dude tweet something with the n word and of course it was somali men in the comments hyping him up 🤦🏽‍♀️ it was embarrassing to see tbh, our community has sunk so low


Humble-Library-4362

It’s the Somali men who claim to be “religious” who act like that Subhanallah This is why I hate Islam, I truly truly truly hate Islam. I wish it never came into our country


sparklesinterlude

Remember how people would comment “It’s always the Somalis” under Somali Women’s Posts. That used to annoy me so much because Somali Women & Girls would be literally breathing and would be attacked by some members of the Ummah.


YourWellnessIsBest

The rise of Islam brought about the East African slave trave for 7 centuries before the European slave trade began. The way Arabs hate Africans you'd think we were the ones castrating and enslaving them for a millennium and a half, even till today.


cco2411

Brilliantly stated, bravo! People forget or are ignorant of this fact: the Arabs introduced the Europeans to the trading of Africans as slaves. I feel sorry for our ignorant brothers and sisters that put Arabs and anything Arabic on a pedestal.


WideAcanthaceae2873

>People forget or are ignorant of this fact: the Arabs introduced the Europeans to the trading of Africans as slaves. It's mind-blowing how so many people don't know this fact.


Eshbash

There is no such thing as Muslim Ummah and Somalis are also discriminatory towards their own people.


najmalol

They're racist to black people, period. But then Somalis are also racist to Nigerians, Jamaicans etc.


Humble-Library-4362

Somalis defend themsleves from Jamaicans and Nigerians who try to insult us. They literally started it first


som_233

I don't know where you grew up, but we racist towards other Africans and Caribbeans. It's the truth.


Jposs1

Somali racism is weird and rooted in religion most of the time if you look at it. Their racism applies to white and black almost in equal measure if they're non-muslims, so the usual gaal cad or gaal madow. I've noticed if the guy is Muslim they're not at all racist towards them. Just look at their attitudes towards West African Muslim premier league players and compare that to how they view other non-muslim blacks. I've thought about many of Somali problems and have concluded it's almost always religion that's the cause. But then again maybe it's just my bias as a gaal


som_233

It has to do with religion but there is always cultural racism and differentialist racism. Infants who have no idea about religion can exhibit racial bias at an early age. As for elite soccer players, one can still be racists but give an elite player a pass. Just like, for example, a dad can be racist to a race save for his daughters husband.


HeathenInHargeisa

>I don't know where you grew up, but we racist towards other Africans and Caribbeans. It's the truth. Facts.


Humble-Library-4362

Bro carribeans and other Africans literally mock us, our features and everything They used to make entire videos saying “I would never date a Somali” 🤡 Bro come on, many Somalis growing up talked about how other Africans and carribeans were racist to us…


som_233

I'm not saying one is more racist then the other. Indisputable that Somalis are racist towards them as they are racist towards us.


WideAcanthaceae2873

Where I grew up it was the opposite. They hated us Somalis!


som_233

I don't doubt it. All I'm saying is our people exhibit racist tenancies too.


WideAcanthaceae2873

Everyone does. But it's weird how no one here can discuss their experience dealing with racism from Blacks/Arab/etc without you always leaving your typical comment. Somalis can and are victims of extreme racism from many. Let people discuss this without trying to deflect all the time. Jeez.


som_233

I said: >"I don't doubt it." Which means I believe what you said. That Somalis are hated. How is that a deflection?


SomeInitiative93x

Eh I don’t feel sorry for Somali Muslims that are in these situations. I mean a part of me does of course bc I know they’re programmed to be there in the first place but most of us are grown af, we have access to the internet and can choose whether or not to open our minds. These people clearly made their choice and see any struggle and pain as something they have to put up with for the sake of Allah ‘sTrUgGLe fOr AllAh’ ‘sTruggLe WiTh yOur iMaN’ If these Somali Muslims wanna stay in those environments, that’s on them tbh Any Muslim lurker reading this who’s feeling some type of way about Islam, take this as your sign to let go. I promise you, it’s sooooooooo much better, fun and emotionally better to be on our side of the fence ✨💖


HeathenInHargeisa

Tbh I never noticed racism towards Somali women online. Maybe its my algorithm. I also do not value the opinions of others when it comes to Somalis. I was never made to feel small by an Arab because I naturally feel superior to everything and everyone as a Somali no one can make me upset or cry about my Somalinimo. The sky would have to fall before that happens and I'm made to feel inferior by an Arab. >I remember this Yemeni Muslim said publically on Twitter he would never marry a “Somali, Indian or Pakistani girl” funny thing is I have never heard a Somali girl say she wants a 5’2 Yemeni midget 🤣 See that doesn't offend me. I'm happy that he is keeping his unfortunate genes and Bedouin mentally away from Somalis. Every Somali girl/woman I know would rather set herself on fire than be with a Yemeni or Arab man. >Even on Muslim TikTok arab men atr saying things like “it’s always the Somalis” Because of male Somali incels. They says shit like hating Arabs leads to apostasy. I blame the men. Our men are very self hating. Insult them back and keep it moving. >If you have been on Muslim Twitter or muslim TikTok, you would know theirs people who say racist things to Somalis all the time. I guess I never been on Muslim Twitter because I've only bullied those who attack Somalis never the other way. Get them back, be relentless and they'll never fuck with Somalis again.


Akhenatan

Self hate is a bad disease and it is evident in this group. You guys left Islam, but still talk about it day and night. You say it is toxic and want to gain freedom. Go on then and enjoy your freedom and forget about Islam now that you are free. But you can't can you? Somali culture, language and people are interwoven with Islamic faith and its practices. Living Islam as a Somali makes you an outcast if you profess it openly and if you don't, you have to hide and pretend you are still one. You think you are free, but your so called freedom is arrested. You are neither here nor there, hence the self hate bubbling inside of you. What a miserable life. You left your den for what? So that you can sleep around? drink alcohol? You couldn't take a few stresses of life and you want to vent you anger on Islam and Muslims. Well let me break it to you. Baxa and leave Islam and continue in your heathen ways. More and more people are joining the faith everyday Alhamdullilah and Somaalis are getting more into their faith. Let that eat you up.


HeathenInHargeisa

Islam is the fastest growing religion because poor Muslim women in third world countries do not practice Family planning.


SomeInitiative93x

Lmao Muslims always conveniently ignore that fact 🤣 The same statistic that states Islam as the fastest growing religion also clearly states this is only so due to the fact that Muslims have the highest birth rate and a relatively young population 💀💀 Nobody is seeing ✨ tHe LiGhT ✨like you weird mfs are implying people to be 💀


Akhenatan

It is also the fastest growing in the West. You guys are being replaced by the same people you are running towards. Lol


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Negro, stop lying “The main reasons for Islam’s growth ultimately involve simple demographics. To begin with, Muslims have more children than members of the seven other major religious groups analyzed in the study. Muslim women have an average of 2.9 children, significantly above the next-highest group (Christians at 2.6) and the average of all non-Muslims (2.2). In all major regions where there is a sizable Muslim population, Muslim fertility exceeds non-Muslim fertility. “ 2. “Muslim population will grow at a faster rate than the Christian population – primarily due to the average younger age and higher fertility rate of Muslims.[4][5][6] It is projected that birth rates – rather than conversion – will prove the main factor in the growth of any given religion.[7] “ 3. “According to a study published in 2011 by Pew Research, what little information is available may suggests that religious conversion has no net impact on the Muslim population, as the number of people who convert to Islam is roughly similar to those who leave Islam.[24][25][26]” You Muslims just can’t stop lying ffs, always lying, forever doing PR to save face because all you guys really are is gaslighters and abusers No one is converting to your dusty religion to any significant degree and you know it deep down, this is why you need to have as many kids as possible bc that’s your only way forward Nacasiin caqli daran 🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️


Akhenatan

Fariidnimo wexeey kujirtaa in dadka lacaayo miyaa? You just proved the two points I made above in your post. Islam IS the fastest growing religion and secondly, the ones leaving are being replaced by new people joining.


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Yes :) Studies show people who use more swear words actually have higher IQ. Look it up. 😁 No one denied that Islam is the fastest growing religion so wym by I proved your points? , nacas bilaa caqli ah ayaa tahay fr bc at this point you’re grabbing at anything bc the legs you have to stand on are too daciif 🤦🏾‍♀️ You just need to remain more daacad in your points but intellectual dishonesty is not looking cute on you rn There’s very little evidence on conversion rates except for ONE small study stating people are LEAVING and being REPLACED at the SAME rate, hence conversion rates have no net impact on the Islamic population worldwide. The only factor that is growing the rate of Muslims worldwide exponentially comes down to BIRTH RATE both past and future due to the relatively young population of Muslim people. So stop painting Islam as this beautiful religion that people are dying to convert to when there’s zero evidence that shows this except for that one tiny study I quoted above (that also clearly stated people are leaving at the same rate but hey, let’s conveniently ignore that part, soomaaha? 😊) Typical Muslim behaviour: All you people do is PR your religion and manipulate vulnerable people with little education into thinking you have some beautiful religion until they see it with their own eyes and run for their lives.


Akhenatan

Abaayo kow damiin miyaa tahay? Tan labaad waxad ileedahay dadka in lacaayo weey fiicantahay. Islam is more morally superior as you are evidencing it. It does not allow to address the people in certain ways. Alahamdullilah. Coming back to the what I wrote previously, which I think you didn't read well as you r fuming with hatred as can be seen from post, I said Islam was the firstest growing religion regardless of increased childbirth or conversions. Secondly, the ones leaving as being replaced. That further shows it is not depleting in numbers bers. Alahmdulliah. Just forward moving in momentum. Colonisation, separation of state and religion, awful non religious dictators, war on terror, absolute non stop vilification in mass media, TV, movies and TV shows. All that has been thrown at it and still it is growing. Allahu Akbar. Come back to your faith. Allah is ever forgiving abaayo.


r_nomad

This is not a space for Muslims to proselytize. Final warning.


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Sida aan rabo ayaan kuula hadli karaa madaama oo aad aheyn ruux ixtiraam iyo af macaani ku istaahila huuno 🤷🏽‍♀️ People like you are so disrespectful, arrogant and gaslighty but think you deserve to be spoken to nicely simply because you ‘choose your words wisely’ but we can all see through your sense of ‘ixtiraam’ There is nothing respectful or dignified about people like you. You thrive on chaos and dysfunction, intentionally come to spaces KNOWING FULL WELL that you will cause bad vibe conversations but then have the audacity to end your sheeko with ‘at least waan af macaanahay, qofna ma caytamo 😇’ Even your own religion regularly speaks of people like you as those who cause ‘fitnah’ 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ Petty and stupid. The good thing is this space is filled with intelligent people who can see right through your tone policing and it might work with the rest of you low IQ Somali Muslims but not so much us 😊 So I will kindly say this to you, my brother in Christ…. Fuck you and your religion, your prophet is a rapist pedophile and Allah loves gay people. Have a good day ❤️


som_233

All you are gloating about is that Islam grows because of births. You're so illogical that you don't see the elephant in the room. Amost nobody converts to Islam, unless be it under duress (eg convert to placate future spouse's family), for protection and joining a gang in prison, and the l lonely persons that got manipulated to join this cult due to feelings of belonging to a cult. Almost nobody rational and without those motives converts. That shows you Islam is lacking logic and cannot be realistically seen as the one true religion.


HeathenInHargeisa

It's not, but muslims are liars so of course you lie. And you only attract inmates, social outcasts and incels. Successful well adjusted people aren't flocking to your cult lead by a pedophile.


som_233

Yup! Last two converts my family was asked to help steer to Islam over a decade ago was 1) Rapist and armed robber who converted to Islam and 2) A super-introverted and no friends having guy who we figured oit had developmental problems (nice guy though). Never met somebody who said."I read the Quran and Hadiths and they make so much sense and Islam is obviously the truth!"


HeathenInHargeisa

FACTS. I'm convinced that Islam is a dying religion. More are leaving than converting look at this. "Another study found that the number of people who will leave Islam is 9,400,000 and the number of converts to Islam is 12,620,000 so the net gain to Islam through conversion should be 3 million between 2010 and 2050, mostly from Sub Saharan Africa (2.9 million)." So basically the educated Muslims in the West are leaving and being replaced by poor and under educated Africans.


AokijiAdmiral

islam is the fastest growing actually.


Akhenatan

Those who have lost hope, Islam gives them hope. What is wrong with incels and social outcasts? You are a social outcast in Somali sense. Plus, incels and social outcasts make a significant majority among the young and those are the ones that Islam gives impetus whereas the culture they have been raised in clips their wings just because they can't act or speak in certain way. Muslim are liars? What kind of statement is this? And for your information, there are many adjusted people who have found Islam I could link here if you are interested to know.


Gunzi416

Actually the numbers don’t lie, please do look it up. The majority of converts in the west are 1) women and 2) Highly educated people. You don’t need to make up facts, at least be honest in your hate towards Islam.


HeathenInHargeisa

All the converts I see are people who couldn't make it in their own community. No educated Westerner is converting. Like I said inmates and social outcasts make the bulk. Where's your proof? I'm supposed to take your word for it ? muslims are notorious liars so....no. Islam.is a dying religion even amongst the educated Muslims. Look at this sub. Imams are complaining about how the more decent and educated are leaving Islam and only the degenerates are staying. Literally an online clip of that Somali Imam lamenting about that.


Jposs1

Future exmuslim alert. If you are here already, it's only a matter of time. You sound smart enough to see through the Islam bullsit


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As a Muslim, is this your version of Dawah? 🤣


Novel_Performance919

Lol Muslims and Islam threatening us with death but we self hating and we the mad ex


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I never left tho. Always been a Christian, but from reading your comment you clearly didn't understand the assignment warya.


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Humble-Library-4362

Somali women are the most femine attractive women on earth Also Somali women are the most conservative women on earth stop the lies 🤡 Arab g1rls are giving bl0w jobs on p*rnhub Pak1stani girls are Mia Khalifas and constantly bash their own men You do realise most women who marry and uplift and even protect Somali men are Somali women… Grow up Also no “wealth Somali Men” is marrying Ajnabi. Stop the lies Your just saying incel talking points smh Go be a loser and incel somewhere else Touch grass and remember if you want to attract women don’t be a incel 👍🏽


HeathenInHargeisa

Thank you !!!! Literally pulling lies out of their ass in an attempt to humble us 🤡 indeed


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Accomplished_Mind260

Women are a product of their own environment. If other women such as whites, arabs and asians are feminine, soft and submissive take a look at the way the men in their community behaves and treats them. Unlike somali men they don't make their women single mothers, they don't abandon them to take ceyr from the govermnet, they don't just gather at starbucks and do NOTHING but talk about qabiil, they don't keep their women in hostile and dangerous enviroments etc... Yall have failed as men and that's why somalia is so corrupted, the kids are growing up faterless (not all, but many) and the women don't respect yall. Somali women for the most parts are very respectful and feminine to men that truly care and love them. Men they can rely and depend on. Not pathetic men that are ready to marry a second wife as soon as she hits 40 if not 30.


golaface13

Who is y'all. Barely any guy in this sub is old enough to be responsible for everything you listed. They're just as much of a victim of this as young somali women are


HeathenInHargeisa

Again you are not the victim if you are a man in our toxic male worshipping culture. Stop this narrative.


golaface13

Lmao so you telling me niggas who grew up without their aabos aren't victims? 🤣


HeathenInHargeisa

Yea that's exactly what I'm telling.


golaface13

Delusional.


boringbish

Summary: You want a servant, not a partner with independent thought. Islam is the perfect religion for you!


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HeathenInHargeisa

^ Incel alert.


qlmo

If women are “biologically inclined to be with a man that leads them”, why do men have to work so hard to get women to be submissive? Why do men have to create laws and religions to force submission to get women to behave like their biology would have them behaving anyway? Why is it that as soon as women are allowed freedom, their behavior skews more towards independence instead of submissiveness? When women have freedom to behave how they want (like in post-feminist white countries), they seek independence. Compare this to societies that heavily restrict women’s freedom (like in south Asian, Arab, and African countries) and women are indeed submissive but only by force of law and cultural norms. You would think with more freedom, women would be more submissive if that’s our natural disposition but the opposite is true.


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qlmo

You haven’t addressed my main point about submission not being biological but instead enforced on women. And you’re claiming the same religions (ex. Islam) that allow marital rape, sexual slavery, and pedophilia exist to protect women and girls? LMAO. No religion protects female humans and if any, it’s definitely not any major world religion. Also you’re forgetting that any laws that currently exist to protect women have been fought for by women and male allies only in the last 60+ years. For most of “civilized” history, women had absolutely no protection. Men could kidnap, rape, and traffic women into prostitution with impunity (not in every case but for most cases ofc). In fact, many countries even promised men the right to do these aforementioned things to women in exchange for going to war. I guess having to fight for basic rights like financial independence and not being raped by your husband is a privilege you’re jealous an “idiot” like me could have.


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qlmo

1. A man being taller or stronger doesn’t mean he’s a leader. Those are purely physical attributes. It’s as dumb as saying a woman with a certain hair color or body type is a bimbo. 2. Once again, some women only expect men with more money or a more stable career since it was culturally and legally enforced. Historically women were barred (and in some countries still are) from working decent paying jobs. This meant women had no choice but to find a man with money to make sure their babies were fed. It had nothing to do with biology. Thanks to expanded rights in the west, this is no longer a necessity and many women can be with a man of similar income or even a bit lower but the transition to this becoming the norm will still take some time since women are only just now getting into higher paying careers. There’s a reason that there’s a current trend in western countries of women being financially independent and unmarried compared to before since there’s no longer as much of a survival element to getting married to a man. Also there’s a much higher tolerance of men not being the sole provider now compared to before. Do you really think 1960s American women would put up with splitting the bill like women often do now? This is a pretty obvious sign that women as a whole are moving towards wanting an equal partner rather than a dominating leader like you claim we are biologically inclined to. 3. Why do I have to reiterate that you can’t claim the same religions that allow pedophilia of little girls, marital rape, and sex slavery (especially of women captured in war) offer protection to women lmao. If religion truly offered protection to women, all of these things would have been explicitly outlawed in the scriptures and severely punished in societies that follow said religions. 4. If you reread my previous post, I mentioned women AND male allies working towards instating women’s rights. There’s nothing false about this. It’s thanks to second wave feminists that there’s recourse in domestic abuse cases, numerous shelters for victims, and no fault divorce which allows women to leave abusive husbands. Activists like Catherine Mackinnon dedicated their work to advocating against sexual harassment in the workplace which used to be legal before feminism btw. 5. I’m not sure what men dying in war has to do with feminism ?? Can you point me to the war in which men fought each other on the basis of whether women deserve rights or not?