By - One-Wrongdoer1110
You can’t, I’ve seen us irl and we look like any other Somali person.
You’re deff right about the physical appearance but there has to be some personality similarities since this community shares the same mindset - I can’t image there isn’t a cluster of traits
The only Somalis that I can easily and correctly identify as ex-Muslim are usually the ones from back home. They’re heavily into books around philosophical theories, very critical of films and are also deep into stoicism
Diasporans? From my experience you really can’t tell as much.
Mmh I have been having more discussions with my dad and he proper surprised me with his understanding of religious indoctrination and faith being opposite of logic, only he is for it. Somalis from back home seem more mature when they give their negative views around religion instead of edgy 👍🏾
OMG, there is hope then. 💙
Nearly impossible lol. Unless they explicitly tell you they’re XMuslim or irreligious there’s no way of knowing. Even the ones that don’t wear hijab and drink and party can still be “Muslim.”
Yeah that’s what I was thinking, really sad. But no one would know this about me either
Icl maybe in 10-20 yrs it’ll be safe for us to come out of hiding but for now, I guess it’s the luck of the draw
If we gave you the roadmap if there was such to begin with then that'd also endanger us. Though I'll just say that just cause Ali drinks and Casha is hijabless with a bow on top doesn't mean they don't have "strong ties" to the religion to the level of not batting an eye when they hear about gays being thrown... or Ex muslims gettng klled. So be cautions no matter how "liberal" others may seem.
I'm kind of a loner not gonna lie, I know a lot of people but I like my solitude; not the frivolous type.
I wish I could find y’all irl. Imagine a friend group of us??? That would be amazing. Maybe one day.
It would be nice to for once to vocalize these things 😳 I think one can go mad after silence for an entire lifetime about something so fundamental to life. What city are you in? Make a thread and try to connect
In that case you don’t want the attention, I am legit in a Somali filled neighborhood everywhere you see knee length jilbaab and men shit talking outside little cafés. I can’t wait for uni😻 where I can find a larger group of young Somalis, I have always been around other Muslim minorities but I feel like they don’t practice the religion the same way
They def don’t. Somalis are the most strict and crazy abt the deen, although Arabs are the OG’s in the religion they’re very lax, so are south asians and other groups from my experience. Lmfaoo Somali abtiis talking politics all day- so shaqolaan 😭 A universal Somali experience. Good luck when you go to Uni and I hope you find your fellow Somalis there to be open-minded 🏽
Something more intense about it, when they are extreme they are 100 times worse but on average it’s harder for Somalis to just be indifferent. Thanks hope the same for you too ❤️
Helll no!!! 😭 I live in a city that’s veryy unknown- people would be shocked to know there’s Somalis here 💀. If I posted sumn abt it that would be a bad idea. When I move I def will partake in meetups tho!!
Yeah I hear you about it only being a conversation you’ve had in your own head. It needs to be let out at some point. Are you on clubhouse? There are a lot of rooms there, almost daily, with somali ex muslims. Even if you don’t talk, just listening to people with the same thoughts as you is very reassuring and calming. Check out the ‘somali agnostic’ group, ‘proud family’, ‘somali free thinkers’
Thank you I have never heard of that app, ill make sure to join :)
Or join the discord and find the ones in your city, that would be a good start
The problem is, in most cases Somalis who are "formally" irreligious are closeted. They do not want to be found. This is especially true when they are around another Somali from the community. So for the most part unless they are willing to show themselves to you, you will not see them as they are. Luckily, there are spaces like these. Where we can come out of hiding without repercussion. Where we can be freed from that mental exhaustion we experience from silencing an aspect of who we are.
that’s a really good point actually, i’ve never thought about that. normally the somalis you see partying and drinking still identify as muslim. whereas the actual irreligious bunch are mostly closeted and don’t try to attract attention out of safety. i may be generalising though
Hvor i Oslo? Hvilke bydel?
Hei jeg bor også i Oslo, vil gjerne bli kjent med dere begge!💕
Jeg bor i byen 🤍 vil ikke gi nabolaget hehe men det er sentrum
Innenfor ring 2? Oki 😌
Yup har du møtt folk fra Reddit IRL? Litt skummelt. Er redd for at de liver om identiteten sin
Jeg kommer fra Oslo forresten men bor i England og besøker hjem noen ganger. Neste gang jeg kommer hjem, skal jeg legge til en post her og vi kan sikkert møtes! 😁
Yay en person til ❤️looking forward, følger med 🙏🏾
U/atheistfromsomalia bor i Oslo. Veldig hyggelig fyr.
Og jeg har møtt folk fra Reddit irl, blitt veldig gode venner med noen av dem. Livet er ikke like farlig som vi pleier å forstille oss 💖
Blir fort avslørt etter første møtet da. Ja, gjort det før.
Mmh vil bare ikke at en psycho skal ta bilder av meg og sende til familie 😭 er du i Oslo nå? Vil gjerne treffe noen og du virker pålitelig
Tror ikke jeg vil bli avslørt for å ha møtt deg her. Så hvorfor skal jeg være dum og sende bilder til familien din?
Men hva om det er en kjempe religiøs person som er undercoveragent liksom ? Så tvinger de deg til å møtes hver fredag på moskeen og tilbe sammen med dem etc you never know. Men jeg stoler på deg da
Sant nok. Møtes på offentlig sted er alltid lurt
Ja, jeg er i Oslo
Didn’t consider this, don’t want to single someone out
almost impossible tbh. i wear a hijab and dress very modestly just like most somali women. even people i know thought i was salafi/religious before i told them about leaving islam 🥲