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Bizzaro world in full effect

Bizzaro world in full effect

Fun2badult

We share the Earth with people who believe it’s flat


themenotu

“BuOyAnCy” it is really too bad. “i saw one of your tik toks, thank you for opening my mind;” man just got his life derailed by a tiktok


jonasraa

You share Murica with people who think the earth is flat and people who think kyle is a hero. Dont drag the rest of the world into this mess


potsticker17

Hey, flat earth society has members all around the globe!


jonasraa

Good one, indeed theyre all around the globe


ExcitedGirl

Meant to say, "They're all on the same page"...


Bawitdaba69420

Say what you want about Murica, the rest of the world is just as stupid.


Rick-powerfu

There are dickheads here in Australia who also believe that shit


GhandiHasNudes

There are a few here in Ireland that think Kyle is a hero, removed a few Facebook friends that tried defending him. Life in prison sounds right for Rittenhouse


Buddhabellymama

We share earth with people who think masks are the antichrist because oxygen is godsend and carbon dioxide is poison…


luvadergolder

I blame CERN. When they over-powered-up sometime in 2015, they disrupted the timeline. And they won't reboot no matter how often I ask them to.


racermd

It was Y2K. Shit got weird after that. We got the parallel version while the "normal" version continues on without us. Sources: Bush v Gore, 9/11, Gulf war 2, Barney (the dinosaur), Teletubbies, Disney buying everyone and everything, no flying cars. I could go on... CERN shares blame for pushing us further away from normal, though.


DynamicSploosh

Come on, we all know that Harambe was our nexus event. The darkest timeline split on that day.


DimesOHoolihan

It was the darkest timeline long before harambe.


DitaVonPita

It was the Mayan calendar all along


GonzoRouge

I unironically believe this tbh


ThatOtherOneReddit

Its been full speed ahead to garbage since the Supreme Court didn't get held to account for picking the president.


rice_in_my_nose

A C C E L E R A T E


ElAutismobombismo

Personally I think it was the Mayan calendar ending thay ended all good karma production out of the universe , it just took a few years for us to use up what was still there .


luvadergolder

Y2K was a purely programming problem. But in 1995, the old LEP (LHC precursor ramped up power from 90GeVs to 140GeVs. That sounds like that could start to destabilize the reality matrix a bit which made future problems slide a bit more into entropy than they would have otherwise. One could hypothesize that human thought processes have been similarly upended hence the tendency towards tribalism and ego-centrism. (just spitballing here) [https://timeline.web.cern.ch/increasing-leps-energy-90-140-gev](https://timeline.web.cern.ch/increasing-leps-energy-90-140-gev)


sweensolo

Twenty twelve bro.


umbrajoke

Barney was made in 92 and teletubbies was 97. You can't blame shit on them.


Desperatorytherapist

Barney and teletubbies were from the 90s


Joliet_Jake_Blues

9/11 The WTC was the last towers holding up the beam.


xdc020

Definitely the truth...where was the damn guardian?


1800generalkenobi

They're all old, dying, or already dead. If I see Oy though I'm scooping that little bastard up and protecting him with my life.


thisdogofmine

This is the most logical explanation of the last few years.


4thDevilsAdvocate

It was Harambe dying, not CERN. You know it to be true.


500CatsTypingStuff

What if they are connected? 😳


4thDevilsAdvocate

oh god oh fuck


Spanish_Biscuit

Harambe was the timeline, and as he decays so does our reality. CERN managed to distort space, which is what trapped him here in our plane of existence. He didn't actually exist before but once manifested reality shifted to make this random error in the universe stable enough to fit. We were damned the moment that gorilla came into existence, it was only a matter of time.


500CatsTypingStuff

Sounds plausible.


Spanish_Biscuit

There's lots of science behind it. ​ ​ Probably.


griever48

You might be right. https://www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/2016-year-in-particle-physics


JEveryman

The Large Hadron Collider put us in the BerenSTAIN dimension where Harambe dies.


Herofthyme

This is the choice of steins gate


andyruler10

El psy congru


JmacTheGreat

Tututuuuuu


Meowrarri8787

2012 wasn’t it


luvadergolder

Nope. June 2015 they hit a record energy level [Lhc experiments back in business with record energy of 13 TeV](https://timeline.web.cern.ch/lhc-experiments-back-business-record-energy-13-tev)


Meowrarri8787

They’ve been ignoring me for three extra years?! Thanks actually I love new information


Zhentaur

Dammit Barry!


Markamanic

Close, it actually merged 2 realities, giving rise to the Mandela Effect.


Fackos

Here's someone who knows!


xXnameOOOXx

gonna post this at @channel so John Titor can see it.


pipesBcallin

I was recently reminded of a time this huge Dick that vice president shot a dude in the face while hunting with a gun that he knew was a real gun and he knew was loaded and nobody from that group called him out on gun safety.


Ok-Preference-1681

Better yet the guy he shot apologized to him for being in his way.


crackalaquin

Same creeps who think george zimmerman is a hero


wildflowersummer

This one is the one that will never fail to infuriate me.


Cephalopodium

One of the MANY reasons I went NC with my older brother


Fiern

One of the many reasons I conveniently forgot which apartment complex I'm touring when my mom asked and gave the wrong location.


Sellier123

Ya zimmerman makes no sense to me. At least we can see where the argument that kyle was protecting himself in the video, not that he should have been there anyways but we can at least see it was in self defense. Zimmerman straight up stalked and killed a kid for no reason. Idk why ppl call him a hero.


wildflowersummer

He now sells bags of skittles with his signature on it. And he’s not short on buyers. America is a brutal and fucked up place some times.


Sellier123

Thats fkn nuts


Meowrarri8787

Casey Anthony?


AnnaCherenkova

"I am Casey Anthony" --some homeless guy I met who thought he could shapeshift.


Meowrarri8787

Jesus Christ of all the things to shift into on top of being homeless


Meowrarri8787

And abortion is crime against jesus Edit: read his book, turn the other cheek cunts I’m sure Jesus can handle me making jokes or punish me himself, like his daddy used to. I commented regarding those who praise Zimmerman and condemn abortion in the same breath.


Yonder_Zach

Jesus is a fictional character.


cilantro_so_good

Most historians agree that there was a literal jesus https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/faq/religion#wiki_did_jesus_exist


AvailableAudience6

I'm sure you can find a better source to back that up that reddit comments.


i_hate_tarantulas

hey at least he bothered sourcing it


cilantro_so_good

My degree backs that shit up. But downvote away. Also, lol. Askhistorians is like the one community on reddit that actually gives a fuck about accuracy


AvailableAudience6

I know they're fairly good, that still doesn't make them a valid source when you're trying to convince others. As someone with a degree in something, you should know that.


Yonder_Zach

There is zero contemporary evidence for the existence of a real jesus. There is zero writing about him from the time he supposedly lived. There is no more evidence for jesus’s existence than there is for Hercules, Loki or any other mythological figures. Also a reddit post isnt a source lol.


Meowrarri8787

Don’t tell these fucks or you’ll get threatened with real Jesus too lmao Imagine believing in god but also believing he can’t handle his own battles….. it almost explains the positive side of eugenics.


KomradeHirocheeto

I mean, the god part sure. Jesus did exist though, he was just at an antiquity hippy


tylrbrock

Dumb assholes have always existed. Only thing is, now they can find one another on Facebook.


Tanoooch

You see though, one is conservative and the other actively made fun of Trump


suffernotthekitty

Yup. He was mean to their false orange god, so they snowflake out about him.


imtooldforthishison

They're still bad how spot on his impression was.


Game_Knight_DnD

The racist little fuck belongs in prison no doubt. There should be an investigation into the negligence on the movie set and as executive producer behind the film Baldwin might have some culpability but not because he pulled the trigger but because he might be partially responsible for the shortcuts that led to the accident. I feel sorry for Baldwin, no one should have to live with what he has to now.


AtomBombBaby42042

According to a dude who works props a buttload of protocol was broken. There's supposed to be like 4+/- (can't remember EXACTLY) steps to ensure the gun was not loaded with an actual live round before being placed in Alecs hands. So there's something fishy if you ask me and I don't think it's at alecs choice. Someone IS responsible for this


gentlybeepingheart

More than just one person had to fuck up for this to happen. It's a culmination of terrible things all lining up and killing a woman. * The assistant director handed Baldwin the gun and shouted "Cold gun!" which means that there aren't any rounds in the gun, bullets or blanks. Not only should he not have been the one to handle the guns, he should not have called cold gun if he didn't even bother to check. * The fact that a single shot went *through* Halyna Hutchins and hit Joel Souza makes me think it was an actual bullet instead of a blank. Which should not have even been on set, let alone in the gun. * The head armorer is a 24 year old daughter of a prominent Hollywood armorer and had only worked as head armorer on one previous project. In an interview about that project she said that she felt nervous loading blanks and felt unexperienced and unready. Which could have been written off then as imposter syndrome and just nerves about her first time as head if not for the fact that this happened and now it just looks like nepotism. * Shots where the gun faces the camera are supposed to have a bulletproof plexiglass barrier between the camera and the gun for obvious reasons. * Only hours before she was killed crewmembers worked off set to protest unsafe working conditions that they had repeatedly brought up. They were replaced by inexperienced scabs.


Bawitdaba69420

Here's an idea. Don't use a real fucking gun.


leon_pretty_loathed

Que the flood of obvious bot accounts coming along to defend that little terrorist shit in 3… 2…


i_hate_tarantulas

que pasa guero?


FarkinRoboDer

Que?


leon_pretty_loathed

Autocorrect you fickle bitch.


blundercrab

I thought you were calling Farkin a fickle bitch for a sec there


FarkinRoboDer

Savage


grrrrreat

You need to say his name three times. Alec Baldwin _Alec Baldwin_ *Alec Baldwin*


reble02

*I understood that reference.*


4thDevilsAdvocate

la la bigoticus fthagen


mike_linden

I can't believe we share the world with people who think the world is flat


guitarnowski

It would be ok if we could at least keep them on the flip side at least.


Public_Giraffe_4412

The right wing propaganda machine has been brainwashing the brain dead non-stop for the last forty years.


hellodynamite

The right's only standard is the double standard


toolargo

I mean, I assume the people they are refereeing to are the ones that think Kyle is a soldier in an upcoming holy and racial civil war. These same people think “liberals like alec are the reaon why they want to wage that holy and racial civil war. So putting him in jail is seen as a “win” to their side. If you look at it through that lense, a lot of the crazy opinions of a specific part of the American( and some other countries too) make sense.


Tyrthesemiwise

The right would happily send Baldwin to jail, not because they think he deserves it, but because it would let them "own the libs" and win them a symbolic victory


Bawitdaba69420

As a right leaning person I will say that Kyle deserves a murder charge and that Baldwin shouldn't be charged. Sadly "on set" discharges are more commom than one might think, just because he's a lib doesn't mean he's not human. Shit happens. If he were an actor without political affiliation the press wouldn't give a fuck about this story.


Im_still_T

In the Right's eyes, they're side can do no wrong.


janet-snake-hole

*their :)


Im_still_T

Damn it. Usually autocorrect uses their no matter which I mean. But *today* just a big middle finger to me. Come on Google Assistant, get your shit together.


LeRoiChauve

'google ass' here. 'How can I ass....'


echoshep

I mean, it's possible Alec Baldwin should face serious consequences as a producer on set. There were concerns from the crew about safety, and a bunch of crew walked out, and then he went ahead with production anyway, despite the lack of qualified safety people on set. So there are legitimate reasons to investigate and maybe hold him liable for Jeniffer it something like that. Rittenhouse is just a wee bit more cut and dried. He's a murderous racist piece of shit who should be in jail forever. Edit: oh look, people coming out to defend him. I'm shocked. Shocked. Well not that shocked


Whydoesthisexist15

The biggest thing should be to teach everyone gun safety, ie clear the gun before you handle it in any fashion. I personally could not be given a gun and not clear it myself without any sort of anxiety


Rottenfink

Who the fuck thinks Alec Baldwin should be in jail? I swear to god people just be making up this bullshit


Joliet_Jake_Blues

https://nypost.com/2021/10/23/baldwin-ignored-no-1-rule-of-gun-safety-hollywood-weapons-expert/ The New York Post is speculating he'll face criminal charges


BookishPisces

Conservative assholes. That is, when they aren’t mocking the tragedy.


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Rottenfink

Rumor this, supposedly that..... et voila! People make up shit and throw insanity onto the internet and then people comment. If it was a pure accident, nobody on this planet with working braincells would want someone in AB's position to spend a second in prison


commandante44

Or those who think Alex Jones is a genius but actual climate scientists from Harvard or Imperial college are dumbasses


[deleted]

Academia is an arm of the liberal control machine, don't you know that? /s


Think_Temperature_39

True af


garthog2020

Believe it - there are two sides - the white nationalist, religious right traitors, and the rest of us.


InTheDark57

Religion has pretty much put the brains on shred IMO


Gecksss

Can someone give me the rundown of both situations ? [lol fight in the replies let’s go reddit]


Lady_von_Stinkbeaver

Teenager illegally has an older friend buy him a rifle through a felony straw purchase, and then illegally open carries as a minor, so he could make sure some protesters didn't break any laws.


thedudeabides138

Kyle Rittenhouse, as a 17 year old, illegally crossed state lines with a semi-automatic rifle he wasn't legally entitled to possess in order to join a protest and shot and killed two people. Alec Baldwin was on a movie set and handed a firearm where the person shouted "cold gun" and it was in fact loaded with some kind of projectile. He fired the gun and it injured the director and killed the director of photography.


Gecksss

Right, thanks, I’m in Australia and I don’t follow the news because it’s all click baity haha What was the protest about? (That kid should definitely go to jail geez why do people think he’s a hero) [edit for spelling]


thedudeabides138

Rittenhouse was joining more of a counter protest, or a response to the protests that occured in Keneshoa, Wisconsin in response to the police shooting of Jacob Blake. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosha_unrest https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosha_unrest_shooting Those who consider him a hero do so because he shot who they consider "rioters" in the resulting unrest and did so in self defense. Whether that is the case is very much contested.


AlpacaCavalry

magahats: I AM BEING ASKED POLITELY TO PUT ON A PIECE OF CLOTH OVER MY MASK THIS IS TYRANNY also magahats: LOL PEOPLE SHOULD JUST GET SHOT WITHOUT DUE PROCESS BECAUSE I DON’T AGREE WITH THEM still magahats: GEE I HAVEN’T FELT PERSECUTED AND OPPRESSED TODAY I MUST GO OUT OF MY WAY TO PUT MYSELF IN A SITUATION WHERE I CAN SCREAM LIKE A LITTLE GIRL AND CRY “HELP! I AM BEING OPPRESSED! I FEEL THREATENED FOR MY LIFE!” AND SHOOT SOME PEOPLE! PURTY OF LAW AND ORDER! Cute tryna argue in bad faith there.


Gecksss

Right I don’t think “rioters” should just casually be shot, whether or not you agree with them People are… interesting to say the least


Cultural_You679

They weren't "casually shot", all 3 of them were chasing and assaulting Kyle.


random_auto

Don't get your information from Reddit lol. Kyle is definitely no hero, but he was attacked and he defended himself. Two grown men tried to assault a kid. One of them hit him with a skateboard. One of the men he killed was a pedophile and the other was a violent criminal. I believe Kyle had a job near the place, which is why he was there. All in all, the kid was stupid for going there in the first place, but the killings themselves were completely justified. Also the main reason people are mocking Alec Baldwin is because he is very anti gun and won't shut up about it.


Gecksss

Oh absolutely I’m going to do my own research now because I’ve been given biased views from both sides don’t worry haha


random_auto

There are always multiple sides to an argument and both of them are usually wrong. We all like to pretend we know what's going on, but there's so much information that has been distorted by both parties that we'll probably never know what the truth is. I wish you the best of luck


Gecksss

Yeah you pretty much have to read both sides and guesstimate the truth is somewhere in the middle


3VG3NY

It was a BLM protest that he allegedly when to "protect". The racist pos was just there to intimidate, and when people tried to disarm him, he killed 2 and wounded 1. Should be in jail as he was traveling illegally, and was in illegal possession of a firearm. Also popped 2 people. Baldwin should be in jail for negligent manslaughter, while the armorer on set should be in jail for homicide. Basically the armorer told Baldwin that the gun was empty. Baldwin managed to violate all 4 of the basic firearm rules and discharged the very real gun at a person on set, killing 1 injuring 1. This was after several misfires already occurred on set.


AshFraxinusEps

>Baldwin should be in jail for negligent manslaughter Nope. Not at all. He had experts who advised the gun was safe. He wasn't trained in it. He shouldn't get any jail time, as he wasn't the responsible person for the gun. Your talk of firearm rules are irrelevant, as we are talking about an actor, not a trained gunman


bcanddc

Disarm him? Are you serious? The dude with the skateboard tried to kill him with it and the other guy was aiming a handgun at him when Rittenhouse shot him. It's as clear cut case of self defense as I've ever seen! I get that his political opinions differ from yours but he's still entitled to defend his own life when faced with the danger of "great bodily harm or death" which very clearly he was.


No_Rule305

"Disarm" hahahaha you mean smash his skull in with a skateboard?


bryan_from_sd

This is leaving out a lot of details, such as 1) they shot at him first and 2) he was running for his life Not to mention this all sort of went down as the guys that ended up getting shot were… wait for it… >!pushing a literal dumpster fire into a gas station.!<


thedudeabides138

I don't know those details to be true. What I do know is that a 17 year old illegally possessed a weapon and crossed state lines to LARP as a private militia.


bcanddc

With regards to Rittenhouse: your argument is incorrect. The leftist media has led you to believe a few things that are not true. First off, it is NOT illegal to cross state lines with a firearm. Thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people do it daily. Second, he did not even cross state lines with it anyway. He got it when he got there. The last thing is being 17 and possessing a long gun. This is somewhat of a gray area in reality. Can he buy one at 17, no. Can he possess one or use one at 17, yes. Furthermore, if the case is ruled as self defense, which in my opinion it was, then he will not be prosecuted for having the gun. How many examples of kids shooting intruders have you seen, kids as young as 8 or 9 in fact and obviously they don't get prosecuted for "possessing" a gun. Look, I get it, he seems like a dick but the fact is, dick or otherwise, the law is the law. We don't get to twist the law just because we disagree with somebody's politics. That's a slope we never want to start down.


RilohKeen

Baldwin made fun of their dear Trumpy. It’s always about their hurt feelings, when it comes to conservatives.


Meowrarri8787

Thoughts and prayers! All actors should be armed to ensure vengeance like Jesus wanted


zzzzzzzzzz55

Blame the orange idiot for this.


theanvilchorus

I can't even imagine what Alec Baldwin must be feeling. It's a nightmare scenario.


Peter_the_Teddy

Well, you must understand. Alec Baldwin shot a white person


CelloBae

And he made fun of Trump


Historical_Test234

Sort by controversial and grab the popcorn this gonna be a good one


ReasonableQuit75

what happened?


Due_Doctor_5006

My thoughts exactly!


-WolfieMcq

I agree. Evil was thriving. One of these people, Alec is sorry and the other asshole is sorry he didn’t kill more. Thank you asshole Trump for another dish of bullshit served on an ugly plate. Ps There are people who are jealous of Alleg. That’s what behind their hatred. Envy is an ugly thing.


Clancy__at__Midnight

Hey its progress. This is the first time gun nuts want somebody put away for shooting someone.


Silly-Ole-Pooh-Bear

They want him in jail because he was mean to Drumpf. They're just using this tragedy as an excuse. I'm sure he'll be held accountable as a producer, though.


WholeLifeWasted

People don’t actually think he belongs in jail do they? Say sike please


Creepy_cree8or

If i wasnt a cheap bitch I'd be giving you gold right now


sarcasmisart

The world ended in 2012 and we're all disembodied spirits just floating around in this limbo we call 2021.


UrbanRoses

Wait what happened to Alec Baldwin


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Affectionate-Winner7

Why was he pointing the gun a them and why did he pull the trigger? Was it a rehearsal with the crew? Why are live bullets' on a movie set in the 1st place. Horrible and probably preventable accident.


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UrbanRoses

So is that manslaughter or what


Big-Improvement-1281

Tragic accident, while there may have been studio negligence, it’s not murder or manslaughter


UrbanRoses

It’s not manslaughter when a person was killed by accident?


Ok-Preference-1681

It actually is involuntary manslaughter for an accidental death if the killer is doing an unlawful action think like drunk driving, and accidental killing or homicide by misadventure for a lawful accident. Still Alan is without blame, as he’d have no reason to suspect the gun was actually loaded and he wasn’t doing anything unlawful.


xtheredmagex

Probably not. Unless new information comes out, I suspect this will play out in the same manner that the accidental shooting of Brandon Lee did: the police will confirm negligence occured, but not enough criminal intent for criminal charges. That said, depending on how much of the reported lax safety measures were going on, this may still play out differently...


SmashinCetacean

There is probably enough for a civil suit if the victim’s family sues.


xtheredmagex

Oh no doubt. I fully expect there to be a lawsuit and a settlement hashed out. I was just focusing on the criminal side of it since that seems to be where the debate is.


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500CatsTypingStuff

Of course not. Someone was supposed to give him an unloaded prop gun but gave him a loaded gun. He did not commit a crime.


UrbanRoses

What about the person who handed him the gun


500CatsTypingStuff

That’s what they are investigating. Who handled it, and who messed up.


DarkExpanseOfEther

He, what looks to be a very sad sad accident, shot someone on set. Due to poor planning on the person in charge of the weapons on set is what is believed. Might not be all is fault, more the person in charge of said firearms. But still, everyone who has a firearm in hand needs to know the risk. Let's not jump to conclusions until we see facts roll out. Let's see where it goes. Don't let this divide us even further.


urbeatagain

Neither one of them are going to jail.


meibolite

Rittenhouse is gonna spend the rest of his life in jail for double homicide.


TrexArms9800

Doubt


urbeatagain

His attorney will put on a self defense claim and a jury in that part of Wisconsin will not convict him. I’m just wondering why the Feds didn’t charge him with interstate transportation of the weapon.


meibolite

In Wisconsin, Self Defense is an affirmative defense, so burden of proof shifts to the defendant. Rittenhouse's attorney would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he acted in self defense. And with all the evidence there is, there is lots of reasonable doubt there.


No_Rule305

It will be easy, considering three guys ran up on him, in the middle of a riot, crowd screaming "Kill him", people throwing stuff at him, trying to him him with skateboards, aiming pistols at him


urbeatagain

I’m going on media reports which aren’t so reliable but I heard the people he shot tried to take his rifle away from him. If that’s true he’s got a strong defense. I passed through that Illinois & Wisconsin area not long ago. Lots of corn farms and solidly white. Those folks have zero understanding about the riots that broke out there. I’d try that case if I had to defend him. Self defense is an affirmative defense anywhere in America.


meibolite

They tried to disarm him after he already shot one person. There's also very clear evidence he went to Kenosha specifically to use his illegally obtained weapon.


urbeatagain

PS thank for your intelligent debate on the subject. I appreciate it.


VNG_Wkey

Eye witness account from the reporter he was with states that the first guy was shot attempting to take the rifle.


urbeatagain

Hadn’t heard that. Fox triumphs him as a hero and CNN as the villain so I don’t know what’s a fact or not. It is undisputed that he was in the middle of a riot and not a peaceful protest. I saw videos of thugs dragging business owners into the streets and stomping them. Given the climate of that night I’d still try that case. I’d play to the local yokels anger over what happened there.


Sheep_Viking

He didn't carry the gun across state lines, he got it from a friend in Wisconsin. That's why no transportation charge.


urbeatagain

Thank you. I misunderstood that part.


KYBatDad

Precise and accurate


BookishPisces

Rittenhouse deserves a death sentence.


sudorootadmin

Well, Kyle didn't famously impersonate their savior.


ChubbyMcHaggis

There’s video of the fire. Of rittenhouse running with a fire extinguisher. Of the the same guy with the dumpster fire yelling and charging the group rittenhouse was with. Of the same guy chasing rittenhouse and this the shot fired. I’m not sure how it’ll play out with the skateboard and the dude who’s bicep got mistified, but the first guy shot was a pretty clear case of self defense, Judging from the publicly available evidence. Of course we haven’t seen it all and their could be a golden ticket hidden somewhere


HumanlyRobotic

All of them were self defense, if your first thought is to run at a guy who you think just killed someone with a rifle with a skateboard or an illegally acquired handgun you aren't even supposed to have, you are assaulting the guy with deadly force. The entire crowd was literally yelling "kill that motherfucker", it's all on video. I can't believe anyone doesn't think that was self defense, the question is whether the whole situation was legal.


Jimbo-Slice259

Theyre both trash people but one of them intentionally was trying to kill beople and one was an accident with a prop gun, people are stupid.


ToeBeginning8776

I mean I’d like to see some accountability from Baldwin as well ngl. Yes it’s tragic and was an accident but that family deserves at least financial compensation and I have little pity for rich folks who will almost certainly come out mostly unscathed


AshFraxinusEps

Why's it Baldwin's fault? He's an actor who was given a prop and told it was safe And there will be compensation to the victim's family, via insurance and such


BookishPisces

People are blaming Baldwin because he was a producer for the film.


AshFraxinusEps

Then that's even more stupid. Big names are often producers for the films they star in, as then they get to make decisions about characters and such to fit with their personal "brand"


Rexcase

it's not stupid, though. i won't straight out blame baldwin, but as a producer he definitely shares a bit of the blame. it was his production company, and he was on set, and a producer on set is the boss and in control of financial and executive decisions. the day before the shooting, more than half a dozen crew members walked out of the production because of safety concerns and weapons issues. as producer, this would have been a situation baldwin was aware of. he had the power to pause the shoot, and address the situation, but that would have been expensive, and it was a low budget film, so it was ignored. the problem is that people are blaming baldwin just because they want to see the man who made fun of trump get in trouble. but that's ignoring the situation. the situation is that studios and productions companies are willing to cut corners in order to secure as much profit as possible, and keep the budgets down, and accidents like this have happened several times over the past couple of years. as the producer on set, and the most experienced and seasoned person on the shoot, baldwin had a responsibility to make sure that the crew of his production was safe, and he didn't do his part to make sure that happened. he's not to blame, but he does shoulder SOME responsibility, and it's important to make note of it so that future producers don't cut those same corners.


AshFraxinusEps

Actors aren't producers in that way. Literally, the reason they are a producer is cause they are a big name and want veto power over doing things they don't want to. He'd not make budget decisions, set decisions, etc


BookishPisces

Yeah, I don’t get it either.


nahcturnal

Okay so I felt this way at first too but more info has been coming out that there were previous misfires on set before this and the actual crew in charge of the prop weapons walked out due to safety concerns and were replaced with scabs so at this point I feel like this most likely could've been avoided and because he was a producer he should hold some accountability.


AshFraxinusEps

Him being a producer is irrelevant. Top actors are usually given producer roles on their jobs. It is done so that they can control what their character does so it doesn't go against "their brand". Ryan Reynolds is probably a producer on Deadpool 2, and was more involved in the script and filming than Baldwin is here. Should he be charged for the motorcycle accident? Baldwin wasn't involved in the scene direction or the props. So no, he shouldn't be responsible


6a6566663437

Baldwin is broke compared to the other producers on the film. They're the folks who actually provided the money and management. If you're looking for pockets to raid, Baldwin's are among the shallowest.


CynicallyChallenged

Alec Baldwin shouldn't have to pay shit. How about the people in charge of set safety? Baldwin doesn't need to pay shut. Sorry that's just facts.


StylinAndSmilin

If it wasn't his fault, he shouldn't be held accountable. Doesn't matter how rich he is and saying he will come out unscathed is tragically ignorant. It's going to haunt him for the rest of his life. He might even develope some PTSD from this. I wouldn't call that unscathed. He's a human being, not a reptile.


janerob1

Just because he did such a good job imitating the orange wanna be dictator is the reason they are out to hang him. No other reason the sheep hate him as much. Since they consider a travesty to show the faults of orange clown.


No_Establishment7368

Was an accident morons, the reason they have several people in the set up process is so Alec Baldin doesn’t take liability if something goes wrong, the responsibility falls on whoever’s job is was to maintain the firearm then who hired the incompetent person.


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LocalPizzaDelivery

Kyle Rittenhouse shot people because they were chasing him down the street, there’s video of him attempting first aid on one of the people he shot. The only thing he did wrong was illegally transporting a gun. All of this is in video. Don’t think we know everything about the Alec Baldwin situation yet, but there were apparently safety concerns and it’s possible he was at least partially responsible. I’m sure he didn’t shoot the cinematographer on purpose.


ValkyrieCarrier

He did not transport a gun, he was given one. He was for sure not legally allowed to be carrying the gun however which is a big question around if the shootings were justified legally. Baldwin by all appearances got dealt a total shit hand with a massive breakdown of safety measures. Hopefully it's a chance to review live/prop gun handling protocol and improve it, unfortunately it's written in blood like every other safety rule


brotherlegion

Although I don’t believe Alec Baldwin deserves to go to jail. I do believe he or whoever was in charge of props should be held to a degree of responsibility for the abhorrent lack of trigger discipline and control. As there was multiple reports of misfires and unsafety on set. Almost every actor who takes safety seriously has taken multiple firearms safety courses. Keanu, Will, all of them. Alec? No he’s an anti gun nut. Is it ironic that a man who is so anti gun and thinks he’s better cause he is accidentally kills someone because he’s a goof? Ya. How did a real bullet get in there? So many questions. As for Kyle? Defended a store and some guy tried to cave his head in with a skate board, while I believe another one had a gun. Truck to the head is fatal. He tried running and couldn’t get away. Self defence was warranted in equal to or greater force to STOP the attack of 3 extremely violent individuals. Running up on an armed man. Just pointing out the facts.


eaoyes

Gonna get downvoted into oblivion for this, but Baldwin deserves jail time. Yes, I’m sure that was an awful and tragic and traumatic thing to have happen for him. It was still his responsibility to check if it was safe, regardless of who told him what. When you come into possession of a firearm, whatever happens with it is your responsibility.


My_Eyeholes

Except that on a movie set there are people specifically hired to make sure props are safe to use before they end up in the hands of actors. Should never have happened, should never have had to be double checked.


No_More_Hero265

At this point I'm convinced the entire human species shares a single brain cell.


barkcuban

To be fair, they both belong in jail and r/hilariabaldwin belongs in an institution.