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What is the most successful accomplishment from BLM in helping black lives?

What is the most successful accomplishment from BLM in helping black lives?

Present-Alfalfa3305

There were some local BLM groups in Chicago, that were ran by black people, that we're doing a lot of great things for the communities. Helping with food insecurity, teaching kids to read, that sort of thing. That is until last summer, when white antifa type groups sued them for copyright and trademark infringement. So....


captncoop88

Well, i mean its founder and co founder ended up with some nice expensive real estate. There's 2 black lives that have benefited 🤷‍♂️


Environmental_Leg108

Lol guess that's a start


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I_Looove_Pizza

Grifters gonna grift


TonyThePapyrus

Nothing that I know of (Don’t downvote me, just nothing *that I know of*)


Forsworn_logger

So donating millions of dollars to community outreach means nothing to you?


TonyThePapyrus

I guess reading isn’t a specialty of yours, may I specify again? ****THAT I KNOW OF****


Gremlin95x

They haven’t had any accomplishments unless you count getting negative attention toward their own movement. Turns out destroying the communities that you are supposedly fighting for is counterproductive. It’s also very hard to claim systems are racist when your examples of victims are people who are committing crimes in the first place, and when people of the same race who are behaving themselves are doing just fine.


Forsworn_logger

So what are your thoughts on he millions of dollars they've donated to he community?


shotof-J

Probably showing everyone that it’s actually a terrorist organization and shouldn’t be supported and that they don’t actually care about black lives at all.


Arianity

Here's one [list]( https://www.businessinsider.com/13-concrete-changes-sparked-by-george-floyd-protests-so-far-2020-6#minneapolis-isnt-the-only-city-making-changes-mayor-bill-de-blasio-of-new-york-city-also-pledged-to-move-funding-from-the-citys-police-department-toward-youth-and-social-services-5) [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_changes_made_due_to_the_George_Floyd_protests) has some more Here's [another](https://www.axios.com/police-reform-george-floyd-protest-2150b2dd-a6dc-4a0c-a1fb-62c2e999a03a.html). >What are we forgetting about? I think it's really important to remember that things like awareness aren't as "concrete". The vast majority of activism revolves around stuff like that. Just because it's indirect doesn't mean it doesn't matter, or isn't important. It's the first step towards change- but it is the first step. That awareness itself is an accomplishment. There are also other indirect effects that are hard to measure. It's very likely it had some impact on the Georgia race, and control of the Senate, for instance. As an analogy, look at the Civil Rights Movement. It would be a mistake to say something like the March to Selma was a failure until the Civil Rights Act of 1968 was passed. They're very related. (Also, we may yet get big legislation, with the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, for instance. It's a struggle, but it's not dead)


femacampcouncilor

Check dudes profile, it wasn't a good faith question. You might be educating someone else but if you're trying with OP you're wasting time.


Arianity

I figured as much. Thanks for the heads up though, looks like the thread is probably getting brigaded. The upvotes/downvotes are very obviously skewed compared to normal for this sub, even for a controversial topic.


Environmental_Leg108

Hmm, well honestly, given the amount of funding they've received, and manpower available to the organization, only being able to vaguely list "raised awareness" as an accomplishment, implies a total failure as an organization IMO


Arianity

> only being able to list vague "raised awareness" The lists i gave listed more than that, if you had checked them. That said > only being able to list vague "raised awareness" as an accomplishment, implies a total failure as an organization IMO And i would say that is a misunderstanding, for the reasoning i laid out above. Raising a lot of funding doesn't magically mean you can change an entire culture. I don't think you realize how *hard* that actually is, and it's not necessarily something you can just throw money at. What do you think they should do with that money beyond raise awareness, as an activist group? It's not like they can just buy votes to change laws. (Also, keep in mind they haven't spent most of it yet. It's getting spent down overtime, there's not much point burning through it all at once)


Environmental_Leg108

>What do you think they should do with that money beyond raise awareness, as an activist group? It's not like they can just buy votes to change laws. There's plenty they could do to actually help black communities: fix up communities, mentor kids, do school programs, counselling, push drug dealers out of neighbourhoods.... That's just off the top of my head


Arianity

>There's plenty they could do to actually help black communities: They're an activist group focused on a certain issue- in this case, police brutality. You're basically saying they should focus on other issues. While those are legitimate issues in their own right, activist movements aren't (and can't) be designed to address every thing. Just because they're focusing on one issue doesn't mean they're ignoring others.


Environmental_Leg108

You'd think an organization titled "Black Lives Matter" would be interested in helping black lives. Guess I was wrong.


Arianity

I already gave you a list of plenty of ways they've helped black lives, that you didn't bother to click. There are more ways to help black lives than the ones you personally think they should focus on (and there are groups that *do* focus on those things, among the black community. Including BLM- that whole controversy over "nuclear families" was exactly one of those things).


thymeraser

I believe at least one person was provided with some housing


PsuedableSuitanym

So far the biggest legal victory has been Breeona's law, which banned no knock raids in Louisville. Smaller local concessions have been made in essentially forcing prohibitions on chokeholds and other changes to police code of conduct. But really, all this is... ongoing. Protests are still happening. Police violence is still a regular thing. And the political process is still the political process. The fact that anything happened that quickly, least of all an actuall *ban* on a staple of the war on drugs, is a deceptively large victory because it breaks a lot of presence. And with things like qualified immunity and police unions entering public discourse, this isnt really a thing to talk about like it's over. BLM as an organization and a general movement dates back to the Obama administration, it's not gonna disappear.


TheAccount99

Nothing. BLM isn’t gonna do anything, they don’t create the laws. The politicians create the laws, the can end the war in drugs, make police officers have to keep their camera on at all time, etc…


I_Looove_Pizza

Patrisse Cullors made a bunch of money, left BLM, and bought several expensive properties in white neighborhoods. Does that count?


Dangerneck5000

So many folks got free tv’s, free computers, appliances, all sorts of stuff. Don’t worry, those looted businesses were insured so it’s all good! What? You know I’m right.


Environmental_Leg108

That's a good point. Gotta start somewhere


femacampcouncilor

Their main accomplishment is luring out racist trolls like yourself. Maybe use athrow away so people don't check your profile and figure out you're trash?


Environmental_Leg108

Y u mad tho? I mean, it's just an honest question


muffmuppets

It has empowered white knights everywhere to virtue signal and call you a racist for asking a legitimate question.


femacampcouncilor

It's not an honest question. You presented yourself as someone that believes in the group when you're an alt-right troll. Their main accomplishment is keeping you losers riled up, making the enemy obvious. You think your shitposting is clever but you're just exposing yourselves.


Environmental_Leg108

Lol. Stay mad ;)


femacampcouncilor

Have fun losing the culture war kid.


muffmuppets

BLM has already lost the culture war….which is really sad and ridiculous when you realize you could’ve have hundreds of millions of allies across this great country. That is, until it turned into an anti-American commie love fest. If you think looting stores (in poor neighborhoods), blocking traffic and hard working taxpayers from their jobs, attacking cops and often blocking aid and first responders, and now a recent surge in anti-Asian and anti-white violence is helping the cause, you are woefully wrong.


femacampcouncilor

You guys can brigade all you want, it's not gonna bring Trump back. You've clearly lost, your dog whistling leader can't even find a platform to spew his hateful rhetoric from.


muffmuppets

Lol, great argument. What does Trump have to do with this discussion? Is that that your go-to after “racist”? Wow, your side isn’t very good at this. Lol how are we brigading? You came here.


femacampcouncilor

You just rattled off everyone of his talking points in regards to blm. You racist Trump supporters don't think for yourselves so it's easy to spot the rhetoric.


muffmuppets

Well I guess he knew his shit then.🤷🏻‍♂️ You are coming with all of your CNN talking points, so don’t act like you e brought anything to the table. You’re grifting just like most of BLM, except at least they’re getting money for it. You are just a buffoon. A useful idiot doing it for free. You have no good arguing points and came with zero facts. I just pray no one close to you ever reads this.


I_Looove_Pizza

lol triggered