Why is every question to start a discussion on vaccines is immediately treated as anti vax?
By - MixedArchery
Just be careful with what information you get. The internet is not a good place to ask. You already have 3 comments that are alluding the vaccination as being part of a conspiracy. Ask your doctor for specifics if you have doubts.
This question gets asked a lot. I see it on my feed multiple times a day for months. It's usually someone who is anti vaxx who pretends they aren't only to argue with everyone and reveal they are. I think people are lumping you in that category.
I would think because on the "pro vax" side, there's really nothing to it. Get the shot and....go on with your life, hoping that you and others wont get sick. To not have it, at least to me, shows a lack of compassion for other people and basic idiocy.
I just dont see them the same. Anytime someone says "lets talk about vaccines" I would normally assume its a discussion about if they work, do we need them etc - not a discussion about who made the vaccine, what doctors etc
What is it you want to discuss?
I think at the moment it’s a particularly high-strung subject. There is a lot of misinformation about vaccines which is having real effects on the current pandemic and other illnesses (e.g. diseases returning that were all but eradicated). The reasons not to vaccinate are often based on misinformation. I agree there are some topics to be discussed, such as children being vaccinated earlier than some years ago and only being able to receive vaccines in a ‘cocktail’ of multiple, incentives of the pharmaceutical industry and how that affects things etc, but these are not often the topics being brought up. Usually it is about whether or not to get the COVID vaccine now or baseless claims that vaccinating your kids will give them all sorts of problems later on that are simply not based on data. That puts people on edge and the internet is such that any discussion quickly goes out the window.
The problem is that it isn’t two sides. There are people who look at facts honestly and realistically and there are people who have zero supportable evidence. That will lie to you all day about conspiracies that only exist in their heads.
The scary thing is that these people with mental health challenges are affecting people’s health. And children are dying because of it. So it is a real public health hazard.
What’s there to discuss? I’m serious, what is debatable about vaccines? And I feel like the topics that are controversial (for example the approval of covid vaccines) have been discussed.
Or do you mean the general usefulness of vaccines? If you want to debate that , you don’t need discussion, you need to just read the theory.
Well for me it’s the fact that nobody takes into account that some people can’t handle getting them and I think it should be more noted/looked into. I have had serious reactions to several. I am fine with some, like my last tetanus shot nothing happened. But one landed me in the hospital actually for really high fever. It’s incredibly rare to suffer from such reactions but people say it doesn’t matter because it’s so rare, but I think it does matter.
We do take that into account. It's just that far more people would be far worse if they actually got the disease than people that get bad reactions. But as I said, that's not a matter of discussion but of ressearch. There was a discussion about the risk involving specific vaccines but the benefit outscale the benefits by such a large margin (statictically) that there is no general dicussion about it. I'm sorry that you had that reaction but your personal experience is not an argument against vaccination because more people would die of the flue if they didn't take the vaccine than people die of the vaccine. Just read the wikipedia articles.
As I said, there's nothing to discuss just research to do if you don't belief medical professionals.
Well it certainly matters, just not for most people, since out of sight out is out of mind. If it's that much of a concern to you and is your common experience with vaccines that's what all those questions are for. "allergies? Experienced serious reaction to a vaccine?" Etc
Because vaccines aren't a "there's good arguments on both sides" sort of issue.
I cannot replicate that..if my parents get overflown with so many vax-counter-perspecitve informations while not even looking for it or having much understanding of how the internet works , then chances are high the other perspective was easy to be found
(I had to spend a lot of time to call my friends that work in the medical and pharmaceutical field to then give the information to my parents as they kept asking whatever the internet threw towards them)
It probably depends on the type of question you’re asking.
“Is the covid vaccine safe” implies a distrust of literally everything that went into approving it and getting it on the market (which can be paralleled with questioning the years worth of (non-covid) vaccine research and real life results)
“Does the covid vaccine change DNA, or make you magnetic” in turn implies that you believe conspiracy theorists despite available evidence and dare I say common sense. Again this can be paralleled with “do vaccines cause autism” as belief in one implies a willingness to believe another.
On the other hand “is the covid vaccine safe for pregnant women” is more checking for known risks for a more at risk population and implies a lack of specific details rather than ignoring all the research.
Finally, the fact that you’re asking the internet rather than a health professional may also imply a willingness to believe sourceless information. (I do recognize that it may also imply an unwillingness to spend a bunch of money on a doctor’s visit - this depends on the question you asked)
Because people that ask questions always get labeled as something. We are getting closer and closer to 1984.
Asking questions is great but the majority of times they aren't genuine with asking a question. People post agenda questions here every single day. They don't care about real answers.
Well even if you ask why the vaccine was created so quickly people will call you an anti-vaxxer?
Because years of research before the pandemic was brought into acceleration by a massive increase in funding and loosening of red tape usually slowing things down. It’s fair to be concerned whether the vaccines have unknown long term effects since this has not been tested (although vaccines rarely do and these are not markedly different from vaccines that have been used for a long time), but time will only tell. This is not generally the real concern when people question the quick development, however, it’s people taking the quick development as a sign of some conspiracy.
That misinformation is really dangerous. Plus that 1 side isn't silent.
I remember the days when "the mark" was a debit card.