By - AxlCobainVedder
Wasn’t the moon landing on July 20th?
Yes it was, this would have been the launch of Apollo 11.
The landing was also at night I think so they all would have been home by then.
The landing was in the afternoon 4:17pm EDT. They did not get out of the LM until 10:59pm EDT.
They must have had trouble finding the parking brake.
Or there was a good show on the radio and they wanted to hear the end.
Its actually because there was another lunar module there and everyone got out of it first. They looked exactly the same as the Apollo 11 crew but had goatees, they could tell because none of them were wearing space suits despite the conditions. No one would exit the LM until they were gone. They all eventually left after something in the vacuum of space let out a loud scream.
Nothing in space can make sound due to the vacuum. As such I am concluding that you're a big poopy pants on fire liar! /s
If you have a goatee you're able to make sound in the vacuum of space.
Shiiiit I never accounted for the goatee law
Until this has been proven to be false scientifically I will hold this to be true
I have no idea why you're being downvoted for providing accurate information.
Edit: also, sitting in that lander for 6:30+ hours wanting to [walk on the fucking moon](https://www.theonion.com/july-21-1969-1819587599) must have been maddening.
The mission plan was for them to land on the moon, then take a (5-hour) nap, and then walk on the moon. But NASA decided to move up the moon walk because the astronauts couldn't sleep.
I could barely sleep before Christmas as a kid. Don't know how they expected people to sleep before walking on the moon.
Dad: Ok, everyone ready for Six Flags tomorrow? Gotta get plenty of sleep to have fun!
Me and my Lil Brother, small child bodies ponging off the fucking walls all night: roller coasters *roller coasters ROLLER COASTERS*
Also funnel cakes but primarily there for the roller coasters, water slides, and giant roasted turkey legs.
Yeah, not sure how the hell anyone could be expected to sleep before walking on the goddamned moon.
Nah... It's always been about the funnel cakes, pretzels, nuts, popcorn or cotton candy first and foremost. The rides are just there to aid binging and purging 😜
It also only had the audio from *Eagle* broadcast live for the landing part - the video camera used to transmit the moonwalk live was stowed inside the lower stage and deployed later. They had a film camera recording it, but that was incapable of live broadcast.
The networks used models and diagrams to show the progress. Because of the delay in touch down because of Armstrong's correction to stop them coming down in the boulder field, the CBS field had the model on the moon before the actual landing.
I remember that. I was a diehard Walter Cronkite viewer.
They aired it early for paying subscribers
and Patreon supporters
Maybe they meant the Apollo 11 launch?
You’re right, this is the sun landing.
What moon landing? Wasn’t it filmed in a studio in Hollywood? Lol I’m jk
I was in grad school and watched the landing at the apartment of a friend who had a bigger TV screen than most of the people I knew. He also happened to be an engineering grad student and the living room was crammed with his slide-rule-toting buddies.
When the lander touched down, and even more when Armstrong took that first step, there wasn't a dry eye in the place.
My mother was so enthusiastic she rolled my baby crib in front of the telly to have me witness the landing. I was 4 months old then and it was about 4AM eurotime :D
I think it was 5 am because of summer time in continental Europe.
I was barely 4 years old at the time but it’s one of the few early memories. Even if details are fuzzy I vividly remember seeing it in the morning as soon as I woke up, especially all the excitement around me on the street: as it was common at the time to watch events from shop windows and bars/restaurants.
Lol "continental" Europe has 5 timezones. I guess you mean Central
Probably the only even the whole world watched
In time of Vietnam war, this must have been a breath of fresh air to the US.
Funny the level of professionalism here…like the suit and tie thing going on
Each of these guys were able to buy a house, 2 cars, support a family, and take vacations from their K-Mart jobs.
My father was a pilot in Vietnam and said his salary was around 14-18k which in todays money would be 130,000.
He bought a 3 bedroom 1200 sq ft house, a Plymouth champ, and we went to public schools. My Dad still to this day saves waaaaay more than he spends. We lived a very modest life until he worked his way up at Kaiser Alu as a regional manager. Even then we went from a 3 bedroom 1200 sq ft house to a 4 bedroom 2400 sq ft house.
How much did Kmart employees make in 1969?
When I worked at Sears in the 1970s the salary for salespeople was not great but they got a commission if they were full time. I was a part time worker on the Automotive sales floor and I was forbidden to ring up a Diehard battery because they were one of the more expensive items sold, and the full time guy wanted the commission.
Yeah those tvs were expensive AF. Like $4000 today
Yup. Just did the math. Our early 1980s ~36” CRT TV would be about $5,500 in today money.
That was an awesome size tv then
Yeah! Massive. Furniture piece level size.
Tbh, I might be wrong on the exact inches, but something around there. Parents splurged.
>How much did Kmart employees make in 1969?
Probably the $1.30 minimum wage.
For reference, the average mortgage payment was $127.
That's 12 days of minimum wage work to afford an average 30 day mortgage payment.
Today's minimum wage takes 36 days of work to pay an average 30 day mortgage payment.
Can anyone even offer minimum wage and still remain in business today?
Federal? In most places, no
Yeah, also average house size 1960 1200, and in 2022 it is at 2537.
Eh, KMart specifically may have been different, but [retail sales employees weren't that well paid back then, either](https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/title/annual-earnings-employment-patterns-private-nonagricultural-employment-4653/annual-earnings-employment-patterns-private-nonagricultural-employees-1970-499071?start_page=6). $4202 in 1970 works out to roughly $30,000 today. While certain things were cheaper (median house price was about $39,000 back then, so somewhere short of $300,000 today), things like the **two** cars and multiple vacation**s** definitely sounds like high paid autoworker or professional job back then, rather than retail worker. A retail worker might have been able to afford a house (depending on where he lived), but it'd be a small house with few amenities we consider essential these days. One car, probably old. Maybe vacation, some years. So...better, but not like you're imagining.
> $4202 in 1970 works out to roughly $30,000 today.
So a full 50% better than what retail workers make now.
50%? GTFO. A full time Walmart cashier makes $25 k a year.
Oh my mistake, it was only 17% better than it is now.
They make 83% of what they made in 1970.
Getting paid less while creating more value sounds like a raw deal.
Hence why I do not encourage people to go into retail
And a, gasp, PENSION.
Exactly. Like working at sears at the same time could net you the American Dream.
Eh. My dad worked at Sears in those days. We were given a small house by my grandparents (my grandfather had a construction company), my mother worked as a secretary, and my parents drove older used cars, otherwise we would have been poor. And by "poor" I mean not having enough food, water, electricity, heat, shelter, or healthcare.
Exactly, service jobs like this were always crap unless you were the manager. However, there still were way more jobs normal people could get that made better money that are nonexistent now.
True. There's no denying that the purchasing power of the working and middle classes has steadily declined after peaking in the late 1970s.
But many people today seem to have the notion that gas station attendants in 1960 lived in a 3,000 sq ft house, drove a new Dodge, supported a wife and 2.4 kids, and took a week long vacation at the beach each summer.
Nope. A low-paying job was always a low-paying job.
The big issue we are facing today is the majority of the good paying jobs are gone and have been replaced with these shit paying service jobs that no one wants to do.
Also, the US has moved a large portion of its manufacturing jobs overseas (in the interest of corporate profits, which were promised to "trickle down").
These days, you need to go to school to study STEM, law, or a select few other things, or you need to learn a trade. If you want to make it big, start your own business.
There are few other options if you want to earn a comfortable living.
Trade won’t get you a job unless it’s specialised. I’m of course talking about my own toilet paper IT certification I haven’t landed a single IT job with since I graduated 10+ years ago.
Quite a few people working those jobs now do not have a home at all, which wasn't the case in the 1970's.
Older boomers are totally unaware of the issues young working-age people face in today’s job market.
At the same time, young people are living under some delusion that every retail worker in the past was living some life of Riley.
I grew up in the 70s.
I see this stuff posted all the time about how people afforded more back then. Yeah ok, to a point.
But both my parents worked. We didn’t go on vacations. We didn’t own a house. I had one pair of shoes. I had one jacket. We had one tv. 10 channels on said tv. We drove an older car. One car. My parents scrimped on things because they had to. I remember seeing the gas gauge in the car getting lower and the tension in the car was there.
Your comment really rings true for any downvoters out there. I lived it as a kid. I live like a fucking king compared to back then.
I’m not championing today’s societal issues around pay and housing. But in my work I have been to a lot of these run down trailer parks or RV parks where very poor people live. They are all boomers. The have nots. Not everyone back then had a gold Rolex, a house, and vacationed in Hawaii every February.
> I grew up in the 70s.
I grew up in the 80s and I think due to time a lot of people just don't know how shitty it was in the 70s in particular, especially crime, and how American Industry was being eviscerated.
The whole single paycheck family living comfy was a very short window of time and not everyone by a long shot.
As much as media plays up how good it was in some ways, TV and film at the time sure didn't. Sesame Street was purposefully grimy as hell that first decade. In Ghostbusters when they're touring the firehouse for the first time, Egon rips on the whole building and calls the neighborhood, which is the Tribeca district of lower Manhattan, "like a demilitarized zone". It's played for laughs but for good reason. Now flats in that neighborhood cost $1.5M easy. It wasn't just NYC or Detroit or St. Louis, every big city had that section of town.
>It wasn't just NYC or Detroit or St. Louis, every big city had that section of town.
For sure. Boston had "The Combat Zone" near Chinatown in the 70s and 80s.
Us old-timers in this thread need to understand that Reddit is very young. Just reading these comments it is very apparent they are conflating the early post war boom of the 1950s with the 1970s. They don't know or forget about gas lines and only being able to get gas on certain days of the week. Or about stagflation and mortgage rates as high as 13% in the 70s and early 80s.
There is also a lot of rose colored white male centric mindset in this thread. BIPOC were still being redlined in the 70s. Busing integration in Boston was causing riots. Women weren't allowed get a morgage or have credit cards until 1974. Hell it wasn't until 1981 that a man would have to get his wife's permission for a second mortgage until 1981 that went to SCOTUS in [Kirchberg v. Feenstra](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchberg_v._Feenstra) which finally found Head and Master laws unconstitutional
All of this is **much** worse if we go back to the post-war boom
This should be the top comment.
> Boston had "The Combat Zone" near Chinatown in the 70s and 80s.
I miss the Combat Zone. There was a fantastic Vietnamese restaurant at the end of Beach, where it ends at Washington that did a wickedly good Beef Bun Bo Nuong (not the Pho Pasteur however..) and I'd sit at the window seat sipping a iced coffee watching the crack whores try and hook tricks that were heading into The Naked Eye. That neon sign with the legs opening and a blinking eye in the crotch was legend. Got torn down and was a parking lot for a long time.. I think it's a church now..
Also makes me wonder what “labor” will look like in another 20 or 30 years.
It’s absolutely true. Look at the Bronx, Harlem, portions of LA, Oakland etc., in the late 60s. There’s a reason groups like the Young Lords, Black Panthers and such came to presence.
> I grew up in the 70s.
>10 channels on said tv.
really? 10 channels in the 70s‽ where TF did you grow up?
Can't speak for OP, but at my auntie's house, in Epping New Hampshire with the good Sylvania rabbit ears on the TV with foil on the ends.. one could get 2,4,5,6,7,8,9,11,13,26,27,38,44 and 56. At my dad's up on Northwood ridge (southern NH) in the late 80's to mid 90's with an antenna with a rotor, we got 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,21,25,26,27,38,44,50 and 56,66 and 68.
Channels 10 and 12 were from Providence RI and early morning it was crystal clear. Channel 3 was WCAX out of Burlington, Vt. Channel 68 showed naughty movies at night with a signal scrambler that made the horizontal hold go wonky, but some nights you'd get lucky and for whatever reason the image would be visible.. fun times.
Where there were no antenna channels. Far away from any city. Cable only.
3 was your Atari and snow. If you could afford an Atari. 5 was cable access. 9 was PBS. 10 was the French channel. 10 channels with programming on it and three of those channels were affiliates and showed the same shows at night.
At one time trailer homes were cutting edge technology!
Good perspective! Thank you for sharing!
It was the factory jobs that paid well not a floor salesman.
Which got off shored.
There was once a time when only a single working person could attain the American dream for their whole family. Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
Yeah, also average house size 1200 sq ft, people also never had near the amount of luxury items to blow money on, a credit card was a luxury to have in and of itself, you got cloths passed down, shoes passed down, etc.
No streaming, no internet, no computers, very minimalistic cars, health care was a lot simpler less expensive.
No college debt either! Not only was college affordable enough that a student could pay his way through by working part time jobs, but not as many jobs *required* degrees as they do now. Back then, you could work your way up the ladder just by learning on the job, but now even many low-level jobs that should only require job-specific training or experience won't even consider you without a degree.
This is one of the big changes that has killed upward mobility. My aunt went from a hairdresser to director of a division in a Fortune 500 company. She started with the company in the early 1980s and had no college degree. She worked her way up from an obscure entry level position.
Edit: She quit her job styling hair before starting with the company. She didn't start by doing hair at the company.
Some CEOs did that in the past too. Started in the mailroom and worked their way up. That was a meritocracy. Now they won't even consider you for the promotion without a degree no matter how much on the job experience you have, and instead hire someone who doesn't know shit to be your boss.
Now you must start your working life deep in debt, unless you are one of the lucky ones and someone else paid for it.
My grandfather worked his whole career as a maintenance supervisor… (nice name for head janitor). Every day he wore an outfit that looked like these guys in the photo…. Ironed, starched white shirt, tie, wool slacks, etc.
My grandparents raised two sons and paid off a mortgage on a house. They owned a decent car, and went on a two week vacation to Europe, Hawaii, Russia every year (this was from the nineteen fifties to the seventies).
My grandfather worked hard, my grandmother was a housewife, and they did NOT suffer.
Vacationing in Russia during the Cold War... what country was this?
Her grandfather had certain political proclivities, can you blame him
My grandfather (and my dad) worked for Ryan Aeronautical. They were instrumental on putting the first man on the moon.
My grandfather delivered bread for a living. My grandmother did not work. They lived in a maybe 1000 sq foot house on the outskirts of town. No air conditioning. Of course no cell, cable bills etc. They ate at home every single meal. My Dad didnt eat in a restaurant till he was in high school. They had one old car.
And only a man could get a credit card or mortgage.
You're twisting this considerably. Less luxury items? In the post war 60s? Entire stores and malls were built to sell Americans useless junk. Credit cards were barely a thing yet. Clothes lasted 50 times longer than today and could be mended and patched much easier (try mending a shirt from Walmart before it disintegrates today). Shoes could be mended and weren't designed to disintegrate.
Then the next paragraph is just the advent of technology so I don't see what point you're attempting there.
true... things are actually MADE to break/wear out faster nowadays. back then you bought something, and you had it for years and YEARS...clothing, shoes, even electronics. Things were built with solid wood and metal, not particle board and cheap plastic.
Oh, there was plenty of particleboard and cheap plastic...and lots of those were even flimsier than now. But, it wasn't such a big price jump to modest but real furnishings. An alternative to particleboard junk was unfinished furniture stores (minimal assembly, but you paint/stain/varnish and sometimes slipcover the bare upholstery cushions). Now the few remaining "naked furniture" stores are pretty darned expensive, and aren't very stylish.
You pay to stream, pay to access the net, have to buy computers to access the net/work/play, cars were relatively speaking cheaper than todays cars. Point of my saying that was these are added expenses that they never had.
Of course they had luxury items but a lot less. If you bought a TV that TV was going to stay with you for 5, 10, 15 years. Nothing like today where you have a huge variety to pick from and not uncommon to have 2, 3, 4, 5 TVs in a house plus a gaming monitor.
My parents had mostly board games, cards, and the occasional toy figurine as an example.
Nothing like today where kids could have gaming computer, smart phone, game console, a huge variety of toys, etc.
We have a ton more stuff to spend our money on than they did back in the day.
I’m not saying any group of people are better or worse, I’m just saying things are quite different from the respective time periods we are talking about.
Edit: To be clear times are tough now, it is extremely difficult to go out and earn a living with a decent degree of comfort. I do not think todays way is any good.
Things lasted longer but they also cost four times as much.
I would do... a lot for simpler cars and simpler, cheaper medical. And a lot of that, honestly. Sometimes it's not about what you have, but about the way society forces things on you, literally and metaphorically.
I see nothing wrong with anything you mentioned except thebcredit card part
It was not common for most households to have 5-10 credit cards carrying a lot of debit. 1930 to 1970’s at least. Or so that was explained to me by my family from that time. So could very well be just a regional thing.
Ahhh okay. That sucks ass then, nevermind lol
Thanks for the info🙂
I don't understand what any of that has to do with cost of living and wages.
He's trying to say the luxuries of today are what are making people poor. 🙄 Just an out of touch fucking boomer
I'm a millennial who graduated into the 2008 recession, but he's not 100% wrong. Many goods and services that today are essential--or that we believe are essential--for daily life simply weren't part of the budget "back in the day," either because they didn't exist, were not considered necessary, or were constituted substantially differently than they are today:
\*Mobile phones and data plans
\*Literally any other electronic device
\*Health insurance (existed back then, but was MUCH more affordable)
\*Multiple cars (having two+ cars per household was not normative as far back as you think)
\*Cars that are more than metal deathtraps
\*Housing bigger than \~1,000 sq ft.
...and so on.
Yes, but society requires more as part of the bare minimum. Try to get a job without internet access, a phone number, and many places require a car.
Student loans are literally just serfdom bullshit that shouldn't exist.
Air conditioning is becoming necessary because of the climate change that boomers have ushered in.
The same people bitching that people need more now are the reason we need more now.
As long as you were a white man.
Sears could ship you a house on your employee salary and probably get a discount too!
Min wage in 1969 was $1.60/hour. Do we suppose these fellows are making *significantly* more than min wage, doing floor sales at Kmart?
$1.60 \* 40 <> $64/week <> $256/month <> $3,072/year.
Avg cost of housing, cars, etc for 1969/1970:
New house = $40,000, new car = $2,500, milk $1.10/gal, gas = $0.32/gal, (avg wage = $6,500/yr.)
1969 was not 1959. Inflation was about to take off in the early 1970s.
One could say "but they are wearing ties", that's just how people were expected to dress for indoor work back then -working indoors in jeans didn't start to be accepted until the late 1980s.
I worked at Kmart in 1992 -1996. For the first two years of that I had to wear ties and slacks!
They switched to red polos around the time super k was open in my area around 1994.
That was my first and only job requiring a tie.
hell I worked in sales at Dillard's when I was in College in the 00s... I didn't make jack shit, but I wore a full SUIT every day (well it was more than minimum wage, but I was still poor). Dillard's employees only stopped dressing up in recent years.
I…think you’ve unlocked the secret—we just need to go back to wearing suits and ties, and the middle-class life is ours to enjoy!
No they weren't.
Exactly what I was thinking. We really did a number on sucking money away from the working class.
I see this sentiment so much online but I can't help but think it's highly misleading and VERY situationally-dependent.
They also didn't have to subscribe to cable or streaming, pay for Internet, buy expensive cellphones or computers, buy video games, drink craft beer, or take out student loans.
Well they did get to go to college for the price of a McChicken, so there is that
If they needed to. They are working at Kmart.
I think one of them might be getting paid a little less than the rest….
Each of these guys also had an unpaid servant/wife at home, to provide free housecleaning and childcare labor and to ensure that he was rewarded professionally. Fuck if I ever want to return to that nonsense.
Edit: gotta love how I’m being downvoted for stating a fact that men don’t want to acknowledge. It’s no wonder that women are giving up entirely on dating men. The amount of misogynists and incels on Reddit is stupefying.
She has a point
The Washington Post: [How Sexism Holds Back the Economy](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/16/how-sexism-holds-back-the-economy/)
Maybe WaPo (and a ton of other sources) are just evil hysterical women, too.
How about we take the progressive tax rates and pro-union policies from that era so we can soak the rich, but blend it with today's more progressive culture (granted we are still a long way from a truly just and equitable society)?
I think that's what people are getting at with being nostalgic about this, a time when many regular folks could make a living from a job that didn't require a college degree.
You are bringing misogyny in to a discussion about economics, that's the only reason you're being downvoted.
Could a man today support a family working in a kmart while his wife "provides free housecleaning and childcare labor"? Definitely not.
Wow, misogyny has nothing to do with economics, huh? That's just wildly ignorant. Downvote away, fellas!
why are you pretending that those 2 things aren’t linked together?
and you paid $500 in 1964 dollars for one of those tvs. Be about $4k today
I can't help but notice that they look like the department store version of Mission Control standing around looking at all those screens.
Mom can we have Mission Control?
No, we have Mission Control at home.
Mission Control at Home:
I was a stock boy in '81, we were required to dress the same way. My super hip thin ties got nasty from cleaning the cafeteria and restrooms. I still have been unable to get my own feces on the bathroom ceiling as Kmart shoppers would frequently.
I was a stock boy/cashier in the summer and Christmas 84-87. Our Assistant manager called us Stockmen.
I was rockin’ the thin knit tie while I cleaned the bathrooms and the dirty diapers “hidden” in the hanging clothes displays.
Occasionally, I did get to announce “Hello K-Mart shoppers, there is a Blue-Light Special on the main isle”. That was badass.
I was Blue Light Bob, people would buy anything on a blue light special. I know it was my burgundy knit tie that did the selling. We were stockmen too. It was one of the better jobs in a small town, better than food service or grocery store work.
My work attire is jeans, polo and vans when I go into the office. We do dress up when clients go in but I’ll just work from home on those days. I couldn’t imagine wearing a button up with a tie and slacks on a daily basis.
They also would of had a wage that could support a family, one or two cars, and a pension.
I mean they're making an adjusted ~$30/hr if not more with lower taxes.
I don't see anyone wearing a suit.
when i was 16 in 2020 i worked at a Piggly Wiggly with the same dress code. Lots of other weird stuff going on over there though
Funny story, my great grandma bought a color television just to watch the moon landing… she was pretty upset when she found out the whole thing was in black and white.
I worked at Circuit City when the OJ verdict was announced. If someone has been thinking about it, there would be a very similar photo taken of that moment.
All I'm thinking about in this picture is my god-awful time working at Kmart many eons ago in the electronics department, and how many dumbass customers would come to me lost and bewildered asking me where the exits and registers were smh. About 5-10 per shift to give you an idea. I wonder if customers in 1969 were smarter and found the exits okay?
I was just a kid then but I miss those days when anything felt possible because SCIENCE!
Then we have people like my dad who since that day thinks it was faked on a sound stage..
Now we have anti science christofascists. 🤭
Standard issue arm and leg cross stance, classic lol
Either the date, or the title description is slightly off.
On July 16, 1969 Apallo 11 was LUANCHED. On July 20th 20:17 UTC LM Eagle landed on the moon, and after resting a few hours, Neil walked on The Moon on July 21st 2:56 UTC, with Buzz following 19 minutes later.
I remember going to a store and the guy selling you the item knew EVERYthing there was to know about the item. Now they barely know the price.
And they all supported their 4 person families on that one job. We are being robbed by our govt and the rich. Time to Wake tf up. Sorry to ruin this cool post but it just pisses me off.
I played pinball at the local bowling alley, the person behind the counter brought a T.V. that day.
If not for the big Kmart sign, you could’ve told me this was mission control and I’d believe it
Launched on the 16th, landed on the 20th. I was 10. My dads birthday was the 16th, mine is the 20th.
I see that long haired freaky people need not applyyy
Someone should've tucked their hair up under their hat and went in to ask them why.
Signs, signs, everywhere a sign
What did the moon land on?
It landed on Steve, the 2nd guy from the right.
Thoughts and prayers for Steve 🙏
maybe the pilgrims didn’t land on Plymouth Rock … Plymouth Rock**landed on the pilgrims**
Good chance they all shipped their pants.
Dapper Dan. Put them beside a NASA employee at the time and could not tell the difference.
What's more interesting to me is how the staff are all Adult males. My local k mart is basically all teenagers today.
My sister worked at Kmart in the early 90s. She got paid in cash in an envelope
Same. I always felt it was designed to make it convenient to blow some of the pay in the store as you were walking out!
Wow, never heard of that. I worked at Meijer(a competitor) from 1994-1998 and never once received anything other than a check.
It was a check, though. Paper that I had to take to a bank and deposit.
A couple of these guys probably retired from KMart with a decent pension and had a good retirement. The others probably left for Walmart in the 70's.
I'd love to go back in time to watch some of the space race. Living through the shuttles was fun and exciting. But, I missed out on some great times before I was born (related to the space race, not other social issues).
Isn't it crazy to think these people more than likely owned homes, while working @ KMart.
Lots of polyester in that photo!!!
Kmart employees look like they work at NASA.
I can’t stop looking at that apostrophe.
Grown men of family starting age making a living working at Kmart.
Back when wearing pajama pants to works wasn’t an option.
If this happened today they'd all be fired.
as if there's a retail store with 9 employees on the floor simultaneously these days.
And they were all homeowners
They probably all owned their own home and were their families’ sole income provider too.
Why did we abandon the shirt and tie look? These are young Don Drapers.
Wasn’t that filmed in a Hollywood basement ?
That's one hell of a Blue Light Special.
I was almost four years old on July 20th, the landing.
I was woken up from a nap and brought into the den, where everyone was quite excited about something happening on TV. It's one of my earliest memories, obviously.
They look skeptical
That's more employees than what Walmart has
Worked managers like dogs.
And these guys all owned houses, wives didn't work and they sent their kids to college. On a retail clerk's salary.
I’m admittedly officially old. I love that Kmart employees had ties. I’m a sucker for a man in a tie.
P.S. I was 6 during the moon landing, on a road trip from CA to PA with my grandparents, and outside swimming in the rain, at the Ramada Inn (somewhere USA), looking at the moon and thinking of men walking on the moon. Oh…and I lost my first tooth that night!
I bet Kmart was ran so much better back then
When you could work at kmart and still afford a mortgage
And all those men drove their car home, parked it next to thier wives who does not work. Walked into thier affordable house and ate a meal that didn't make you question hitting the food bank next week.
People were paid a living wage and corporate taxes were 90% unless the money was reinvested into the business. It's how we got to the moon.
Make America this again.
The corporate tax rate in the US has [never been anywhere close to 90%](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Corporate_tax_rates_history.png)
You're right it was just regular Americans putting in the work while corporations steal from us.
But it was as high as 53%
Plenty of women worked back in the day.
Can you point to where I said no women worked? Or can you go with the fact that most families were single income?
32% of women worked in the sixties and a great deal of those are pre marriage/children
The status quo back then was single income families.
Sadly the modern day GOP would call this socialism.
As far as I'm concerned THAT was capitalism. What we have now is a dumpster fire.
"Ladies please step off to the side this is important men's business, could you get us some coffee"
Back when a job could pay for a house, kids and stay at home wife. RIP the American dream.
Each of those men could support a family of four on their Kmart salary.
What I find jarring is that all of these workers look like they are past their mid-20s. In that era, they are likely married with multiple children. That leads you to believe that they were paid a decent wage for that time.
Minimum wage in 1969: $1.60 ($3,328 per year) -> adjusted for inflation to 2022 -> $26,869.84
Average cost of home in 1969: $25,600 -> adjusted for inflation to 2022 -> $206,691.05
Minimum wage in 2022: $7.25 ($15,080 per year)
Average cost of home in 2022: $348,079
Pretty sad to see how much better this generation had it back then. Not only were homes much cheaper, but minimum salaries were far more. And, yet we now live in a world where the Fed is looking too curb inflation by hiking up interest rates (cooling the economy), which always leads to higher unemployment rates (employers don't want to invest in anything too risky), and lowers wages. All while the cost of getting a mortgage only increases due to the interest rate hikes. They want to blame COVID, but the blame for all this goes as far back as the Reagan administration and their mission to de-regulate everything on Earth. The trickle down effect never worked like they said it would, and instead, we are left with a massive wage gap between classes and corporations with far too much power due to creating their own rules for decades.
Know someone who worked k mart in the eighties. Made over 8 an hour, non manager.
Got a pension too.
Back then you could sell TVs at Kmart and buy a 4 bedroom house with a pool
Have the times have changed, they were allowed to watch a historic event at work? Now in 2022 retail employees aren’t even allowed to take shelter when the tornado sirens are going off.
Back when working at a retail superstore could pay the bills.
Look at those guys, as their careers progressed, they'd go on to fuck that kind of thing up for people down the road so they could make more money.
Whole line of dickheads right there.
"I just shipped muh bed!"
Amazon would fire all of them for taking an unauthorized break.