Yeah its disabled, probably because its increadbly difficult to navigate the world normally. Basically once you get a merchant NPC they just sell the pylon for whatever biome they are in.
i feel like they should still have it to reward players that are brave/skilled enough to set up housing on the surface. or those that cheese it by building it on the "surface" but having it still be underground
You legit cannot build on the surface, it's entirely corrupt, and the steampunker doesn't sell a clentanimator, I mean if you're commited enough you could spread hollow but it would be a monumental task especially with all the Corruptors around.
it's not too bad in an ice biome because you just need to mine out the ice, and mining out corruption and replacing it with other blocks takes time but is completely doable. I have plenty of spots on the surface of my master mode zenith worlds for npc houses just because I can.
considering its basically impossible to get a house on the surface, which in turn makes it impossible to make some npcs ever happy, it makes sense, and I certainly found it welcome in my playthu
it isn't impossible if you clear a section of the corruption and build a ceiling to be protected from the stars. it's super easy to do in the snow biome, and it seems like when you get rid of the evil biome monster spawning goes down to normalish rates.
NPCs
The NPC Happiness system is disabled. Prices modifiers will always be 100%, and the "Happiness" button in the dialogue window is removed.
And quote.
It makes sense though. Instead of starting out in a forest where almost every npc is fairly happy you start off in the caverns where a lot of npcs would be unhappy so you'd be at a disadvantage with prices.
The biggest problem I had for starting a new World was building
Building múltiple towns in my first World was fun but don't wanna spend so much time again
So know I do houses like these and I'm much happier
Also you can use pylons with this and I THINK npcs can be happy like this
I have a pre-built base in my schematics folder and just import my base in tedit whenever I start up. Underground base, big trenches for crowd control during events, fishing ponds next door.
Hey I do that with my main base at start, when I can't afford pylons, so I can't afford anything else anyways.... It's still efficient, even though it costs a lot more on the prices.
Afterwards I always build sperate houses.
early game building shit like that is viable so you can get the npcs while you explore. [like this.](https://i.imgur.com/0azRZDC.png) no need to rush hapiness.
~~You can replace the table with a work bench and make it one tile less wide! Minimum house size is either 3x10 or 4x8 within walls~~
The build OP has seems to be the cheapest I can think of! See comment below
Problem, are the 2 platforms and 2 walls they would save equivalent to the two wood it would cost to make the crafting table instead
Additionally, would the not have to make the build taller if they made it thinner?
I am not disagreeing, I’m just posing questions for consideration
Your point is super valid and turns out I was wrong! I did the math and the 4x8 actually does win out! Both for the 2 wood you save with a table instead of work bench and the 3x10 requiring more walls to cover the no hole wider than 5 tile requirement of a house!
Shared = \~5.33 wood
* Wood Block x 1 = 1 wood
* Wooden Chair x 1 = 4 wood
* Torch x 1 = 0.33 wood/0.33 gel
NPC House (3x10) = 17 wood
* Wood Platform x 29 (10 + 10 + 5 + 4) = 14.5 wood
* Wood Wall x 6 = 1.5 wood
* Work Bench x 1 = 10 wood
NPC House (4x8) = 15.5 wood
* Wood Platform x 27 (8 + 8 + 6 + 5) = 13.5 wood
* Wood Block x 1 = 1 wood
* Wood Wall x 4 = 1 wood
* Wooden Table x 1 = 8 wood
So by a 1.5 wood difference, the cheapest NPC house would be the 4x8 at \~21 wood which is what OP had in the first place!
This can technically be mitigated if you know about it beforehand. Shaking trees have a change to drop a seed, so theoretically you can definitely shake the tree and wait until you eventually get an acorn, then chop down the tree. Is it stupid? Yes. Is it technically not luck dependent? Also yes.
This is assuming you don't go uunga buunga on the tree right when you spawn in though.
Now I’m really confused by this game. I see tons of submissions to this subreddit asking why a house doesn’t work even though it looks like it should and then you come with this design that looks like it should fail but it works just fine.
Well, dystopian concentration camp towers were possible for years with no drawbacks, too, but with happiness being a feature now it's not possible if you want good prices. No guarantee housing requirements won't be overhauled or simply changed later
Really? And how much time do you save exactly by making this instead of a box? I'm guessing 5 seconds maximum, because this design, you need to sort of place them in correct positions while a box, you can just spam blocks and it works.
Its just that housing has requirements that should work but without being incredibly restrictive.
Things like needing a solid block to stand on makes sense but if you need too many, making thinner rooms in like a tower can be such a pain if you cant use platforms for the floor to be able to climb it
similarly, you can use platforms as walls so you can technically have an "open" room without the need for a door.
This is just the result of years of people working out the best way to abuse it. Most of the "why dont my houses work" all are just to do with no solid blocks or the room being too big/small.
There is a level of housing that would be ill advised to live in. That would usually be for someone you don't like.
There is a level of housing that is quite dangerous. That would usually be where you friend Goblin Tinkerer stays.
There is a level of housing that is covered by lava on all sides, or where your angler stays.
Then there's this.
It actually pains me to see people use minimal NPC housing/prisons. I usually decorate and stylize mine and make more of an impact upon the world I plan on spending a good portion of my time on.
I always try and have a theme for a town in each biome + interior decoration matching said npc who lives in the house (and if they have a spouse/family have it look like they live together)
I think it is because table needs 8 wood to make and work bench needs 10 wood to make. But you need additional 4 platforms to place it, so it's equal untill you look at the walls. For a house with work bench you have to put 6 walls, and you craft 4 at a time, so you'll have to spend 1 wood more on house with work bench
Edit: Wait, it's 2 tiles lower, this reduces it's cost by 1 wood too, so it's 2 wood cheaper than the work bench one (but takes more space and if you build even number work bench houses it's more expensive by just 3 wood per 2 houses).
If you really want to, you can go back to older versions of Terraria where "infinte npc" houses can be made.
It's exactly what it sounds like, making it the most efficient wood/npc housing available.
27 platforms, 4 walls, 1 torch, 1 chair, 1 table = 13.5+1+1/3+4+8=26,833... Wood per 6x10 area house (21,833.. wood and 5x10 area if they're built next to each other)
Compared to
29 platforms, 6 walls, 1 torch, 1 chair, 1 workbench = 14.5+1.5+1/3+4+10=30.333... wood per 5x10 house (24.333 wood and 4x12 area if built next to each other)
I think that's the math? I guess more space efficient means more expensive and vice versa
Not to be that guy, but I actually love building housing in Terraria, way more than most other games, it's just way more customizable than other games.
Having said that, you're the god of minimalism.
honestly what’s the point, houses are useful anyways, you can fill em with chests and crafting benches and trophies and junk, what all is really saved in the classic dirt cylinders
https://i.imgur.com/K15TrKK.jpg
I’m pretty much unconditionally convinced this is the best housing style period. 3x10 inside, work bench as table, no doors or platforms, chair and torch, solid backing (may work with less, havent tried).
The purpose is to have them unable to move at all, and not roam around eachother freely. I access the NPC’s from below (a platform with three spaces lets you stand right under them).
I even do this for pylon houses out of absolute convenience of access and organization.
Cheaper? Wood has no value and is infinitely renewable, so no you cannot make it cheaper. More efficient, in terms of blocks or time? In terms of time, absolutely: just build a box with platform doors instead of carefully measuring anything. In terms of blocks... It's wood. It's infinitely renewable. If for some reason you don't want to use wood, use dirt instead; you'll end up with chests full of it anyway.
How much cheaper do you want? That's like one tree lmfao
Fair point.
bro im sorry but if you are still building shit like that for npcs after happiness and pylons were introduced, something wrong
Depends. The don't dig up and zenith seeds don't have npc happiness so housing like this is optimal
Wait they dont?
Yeah its disabled, probably because its increadbly difficult to navigate the world normally. Basically once you get a merchant NPC they just sell the pylon for whatever biome they are in.
I. Completely. Forgot. About. Pylons. I COULD'VE SPED UP SO MUCH TRAVEL TIME IF I JUST PUT HOUSES EVERYWHERE MY GOD IM SO STUPID.
Yeah, I honestly need to start setting up Pylons and NPC homes for Jungle and Ocean.
Cavern is nice to. Set it up right above hell and no need to wait while falling for ages
Also make artificial lakes near the homes so you can fish in every biome quickly.
Or use a slime mount
I setup my caverns pylon beside aether
i feel like they should still have it to reward players that are brave/skilled enough to set up housing on the surface. or those that cheese it by building it on the "surface" but having it still be underground
You legit cannot build on the surface, it's entirely corrupt, and the steampunker doesn't sell a clentanimator, I mean if you're commited enough you could spread hollow but it would be a monumental task especially with all the Corruptors around.
Even purification powder is extremely difficult to get, because dryad won't sell it. You need to get vile powder and shimmer it
The other option would be a mine/replace with the new Extractinator, I think
it's not too bad in an ice biome because you just need to mine out the ice, and mining out corruption and replacing it with other blocks takes time but is completely doable. I have plenty of spots on the surface of my master mode zenith worlds for npc houses just because I can.
considering its basically impossible to get a house on the surface, which in turn makes it impossible to make some npcs ever happy, it makes sense, and I certainly found it welcome in my playthu
it isn't impossible if you clear a section of the corruption and build a ceiling to be protected from the stars. it's super easy to do in the snow biome, and it seems like when you get rid of the evil biome monster spawning goes down to normalish rates.
still, a helluva lot of effort to ask from a player until they're basically done with phm progression
[Nope](https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Don%27t_dig_up)!
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NPCs The NPC Happiness system is disabled. Prices modifiers will always be 100%, and the "Happiness" button in the dialogue window is removed. And quote.
oh my. that is really... interesting.
It makes sense though. Instead of starting out in a forest where almost every npc is fairly happy you start off in the caverns where a lot of npcs would be unhappy so you'd be at a disadvantage with prices.
Housing doesn't affect happiness, only positioning. My npcs get the cheapest fastest prisons possible
guess I cant argue that, just prefer makin somethin cool for em based on biome or something
I only do it on a world I care about. If I'm playing the game just to progress, I could care less (bars)
Ok but if you're just progressing, why don't you care less?
Why does happiness and pylons have anything to do with building style?
Building style? Idk. But i relocate my houses per biome
hapiness is just biomes and neighbors, not how fucking good you are at building
The biggest problem I had for starting a new World was building Building múltiple towns in my first World was fun but don't wanna spend so much time again So know I do houses like these and I'm much happier Also you can use pylons with this and I THINK npcs can be happy like this
I have a pre-built base in my schematics folder and just import my base in tedit whenever I start up. Underground base, big trenches for crowd control during events, fishing ponds next door.
Is it an empty base? Or does it already have chests and crafting stations ready to go?
Fair point, dont always wanna invest that much time in a world I understand
Wait you expect me to treat them nicely?
Teleporters gang rise up
Hey I do that with my main base at start, when I can't afford pylons, so I can't afford anything else anyways.... It's still efficient, even though it costs a lot more on the prices. Afterwards I always build sperate houses.
nah thatll still contribute to happiness
early game building shit like that is viable so you can get the npcs while you explore. [like this.](https://i.imgur.com/0azRZDC.png) no need to rush hapiness.
There is no way to go cheaper, that's the Speedrun housing
~~What if you use workbench instead and make it 3 wide instead of 4?~~ Edit: someone already answered that in other comment
Use dirt blocks instead
Half a tree
make them homeless
Bro’s got section 8 housing in Terraria 😭
~~You can replace the table with a work bench and make it one tile less wide! Minimum house size is either 3x10 or 4x8 within walls~~ The build OP has seems to be the cheapest I can think of! See comment below
Problem, are the 2 platforms and 2 walls they would save equivalent to the two wood it would cost to make the crafting table instead Additionally, would the not have to make the build taller if they made it thinner? I am not disagreeing, I’m just posing questions for consideration
Your point is super valid and turns out I was wrong! I did the math and the 4x8 actually does win out! Both for the 2 wood you save with a table instead of work bench and the 3x10 requiring more walls to cover the no hole wider than 5 tile requirement of a house! Shared = \~5.33 wood * Wood Block x 1 = 1 wood * Wooden Chair x 1 = 4 wood * Torch x 1 = 0.33 wood/0.33 gel NPC House (3x10) = 17 wood * Wood Platform x 29 (10 + 10 + 5 + 4) = 14.5 wood * Wood Wall x 6 = 1.5 wood * Work Bench x 1 = 10 wood NPC House (4x8) = 15.5 wood * Wood Platform x 27 (8 + 8 + 6 + 5) = 13.5 wood * Wood Block x 1 = 1 wood * Wood Wall x 4 = 1 wood * Wooden Table x 1 = 8 wood So by a 1.5 wood difference, the cheapest NPC house would be the 4x8 at \~21 wood which is what OP had in the first place!
dont you need a workbench to make the table anyway? so at least for one house it would be cheaper to use the workbench, then table for the rest
If you don't already have a workbench at that point, you're going to have some problems
Damn dude you're REALLY into this lol
It was important glad this man solved this problem
I think he is trying to make it as compact as possible since you cant really get much cheaper but can get smaller.
In a fantasy world of near infinite resources, you move in as an NPC to find out the ruler of the land is frugal... :P
Nice light novel title.
Imagine living in a tiny wooden platform box with walls only up to your eye level. How would you like to live like that?
In California this would be $6000 a month
With that great of a view? No shot. Double.
too real lmao
6,000? Maybe 600,000?
nah, that’s the medical bills.
Month? Try a planck second.
californian here can confirm
Factory farm nomen
And that's the reason why they are lucky 1s and 0s with no feeling or sentience. We don't need to care, it's a video game /S
how is this a "suitable" house.. wtf?
it has a table, chair, 30 block space, a light source, an entrance and a wall with no holes larger than 4x4
And a solid block for the npc to stand on
That'll cost you 4000 bucks in Philadelphia.
And a kidney in London
The space requirement is 60 tiles including walls
Landlords be like: $1400/month
next year will double the price
Also don’t forget a mandatory 700% tip
There’s only so many NPCs, it’s not like you’re starved for wood with this design unless your world only has like 8 trees lol
Plot twist: OP is playing a skyblock map and the wood is going to a bridge
Bringing plot twist to the plot twist: The tree didn’t give a seed.
This can technically be mitigated if you know about it beforehand. Shaking trees have a change to drop a seed, so theoretically you can definitely shake the tree and wait until you eventually get an acorn, then chop down the tree. Is it stupid? Yes. Is it technically not luck dependent? Also yes. This is assuming you don't go uunga buunga on the tree right when you spawn in though.
You don't build bridges with wood on Skyblock, buy with slime plataforms
Does that actually function as a house?
Yes, it's been my go to house design for a while as I'm bad at building. It currently houses my merchant.
Now I’m really confused by this game. I see tons of submissions to this subreddit asking why a house doesn’t work even though it looks like it should and then you come with this design that looks like it should fail but it works just fine.
Tarraria housing is weird. 10+ years of strange housing.
I'm just hoping no updates spoil it, it allows me to focus on the bits I enjoy more.
probably wont, since houses like this have been something you could do for years.
Well, dystopian concentration camp towers were possible for years with no drawbacks, too, but with happiness being a feature now it's not possible if you want good prices. No guarantee housing requirements won't be overhauled or simply changed later
Wait NPC happiness affects prices
Yeah, that's one of its primary purposes lol. That and pylons
Really? And how much time do you save exactly by making this instead of a box? I'm guessing 5 seconds maximum, because this design, you need to sort of place them in correct positions while a box, you can just spam blocks and it works.
Exactly what I was thinking..
Its just that housing has requirements that should work but without being incredibly restrictive. Things like needing a solid block to stand on makes sense but if you need too many, making thinner rooms in like a tower can be such a pain if you cant use platforms for the floor to be able to climb it similarly, you can use platforms as walls so you can technically have an "open" room without the need for a door. This is just the result of years of people working out the best way to abuse it. Most of the "why dont my houses work" all are just to do with no solid blocks or the room being too big/small.
The answer is almost always that the NPCs don't have a solid block to stand on, as the floor is made up of platforms or something similar
Bad at building so you chose this higher effort monstrosity over a wood box?
Well, you don't get better at building by not trying to build anything! Practice makes perfect my friend!
My guy you making npc prison look like a resort
Least stingy landlord
This is the irish housing crisis elaborated in 1 post
There is a level of housing that would be ill advised to live in. That would usually be for someone you don't like. There is a level of housing that is quite dangerous. That would usually be where you friend Goblin Tinkerer stays. There is a level of housing that is covered by lava on all sides, or where your angler stays. Then there's this.
Dude, trees are infinite
Yeah, but it takes time to grow more trees (and it also makes you work to do so). Since time is money, they aren't free. Just kidding, of course.
It actually pains me to see people use minimal NPC housing/prisons. I usually decorate and stylize mine and make more of an impact upon the world I plan on spending a good portion of my time on.
I always try and have a theme for a town in each biome + interior decoration matching said npc who lives in the house (and if they have a spouse/family have it look like they live together)
Didn't they add an item to instantly grow trees just recently?
They did? I'm sorry if that's the case. I haven't played terraria in a while due to time constraints
they did, you craft it shit and bones, if you didnt know they also added human shit item into the game
not in skyblock
OP are you that landlord who makes EVERYTHING as cheap as it is theoretically possible in order to save as much money on the house?
$700,000 house with spacious interior.
Just build a fucking house 😭😭
pumpkin is free and everywhere atm
So are trees, but clearly OP is either incredibly lazy or a hardcore min-maxer
true but you don't need to replant pumpkins and they're more abundant, so it's faster and more efficient than trees atm
How dare yall abuse those npcs and make them live in those conditions!
I have the zoologists in a jar
this shit is 20k a month in nyc
"Rustic, cozy apartment" £2500pw
Chinese working conditions
Is the crafting table cheaper?
No its more because it has more craftable items that the table is assume I think table is 8 crafting table is 10 (or something like that)
Also you need a workbench to make one
True I usually use a work bench in all rooms except for like 1 for convince (cause there's a few things that can only be made at a table)
Same
I think it is because table needs 8 wood to make and work bench needs 10 wood to make. But you need additional 4 platforms to place it, so it's equal untill you look at the walls. For a house with work bench you have to put 6 walls, and you craft 4 at a time, so you'll have to spend 1 wood more on house with work bench Edit: Wait, it's 2 tiles lower, this reduces it's cost by 1 wood too, so it's 2 wood cheaper than the work bench one (but takes more space and if you build even number work bench houses it's more expensive by just 3 wood per 2 houses).
To make a crafting table cheaper is just by putting it in one house, the other ones need a normal table
Put the chair on the table.
This changes everything!
It still counts as a house if the chair is in the right position
you can do that??
The house for the angler:
Dumb advice ig but Make the houses share the same wall, so you only build one new wall each time.
Yes not making houses
that's probably the cheapest, but it can be smaller..
The NPCs should uphold a human or should I say NPC rights movement.
bro?
If you really want to, you can go back to older versions of Terraria where "infinte npc" houses can be made. It's exactly what it sounds like, making it the most efficient wood/npc housing available.
bro i forgot about those they were so cool
landlord behaviour
Landlords in NYC be having rooms like this and charge 1500 a month
Bullshit They charge triple
Use free blocks, like some table or chair that you can find in mine houses
What did your NPCs do to you? 😭 so heartless
it's the cheapest possible in 1.4.4, but before they were patched, infinite npc houses would effectively be much cheaper
This is satire right 💀
Use natural structures.
Ah yes I love New York apartments
Bro you have them living I'm cardboard boxes at this point what more do you want💀💀
Why
Bro why are people still building these
Because it's fast and simple. Sometimes, you just need a pylon somewhere, and aren't equipped to (or can't be bothered to) built a town there yet.
I still do it (not this design but similar) because I hate my NPCs! Simple as that
This landlord sucks
BRUH
27 platforms, 4 walls, 1 torch, 1 chair, 1 table = 13.5+1+1/3+4+8=26,833... Wood per 6x10 area house (21,833.. wood and 5x10 area if they're built next to each other) Compared to 29 platforms, 6 walls, 1 torch, 1 chair, 1 workbench = 14.5+1.5+1/3+4+10=30.333... wood per 5x10 house (24.333 wood and 4x12 area if built next to each other) I think that's the math? I guess more space efficient means more expensive and vice versa
Can anyone explain why the walls count as housing?
How much you charging for rent?
“damn what a nice lookin house, i shall move here”
Looking at this I would say my NPCS living in wooden boxes are privileged
you sicken me
You make the Tax Collector jealous with how cheap you are
I find houses like this are just tedious to make and end up taking to long or not working for me
Making them partially underground will remove the need for a floor and roof! Just dirt.
[you can economize even more building on the ground and linking all them](https://i.imgur.com/0azRZDC.png)
Bro Auschwitz was less efficient than this
landlord
Not much cheaper than this cardboard box of a mf you got here
Bro god fucking damn this aint america bruh just build a normal house man
Not to be that guy, but I actually love building housing in Terraria, way more than most other games, it's just way more customizable than other games. Having said that, you're the god of minimalism.
honestly what’s the point, houses are useful anyways, you can fill em with chests and crafting benches and trophies and junk, what all is really saved in the classic dirt cylinders
That one old npc 1.3 console glitch where 1 house= inf house
Could you strip out the 4 corner pieces? I haven't tested if those are necessary, but it's all I can think of.
OP could be an actual landlord.
Man us Terraria players can be psychopaths
Most comfortable house built by a terraria player
POV You are a IRL Landlord
Amazon
Replace the table with a workbench?
I think ill stick to my npc prisons
Get mods that says “npc prison”
Late stage capitalism
Sure, you can stuff them all in a workshop and feed them every 2 days if they've been good
That counts as npc housing?
You can use a workbench instead of a table for only 3 blocks wide on the inside, but each workbench will cost you 10 wood
use the workbench you used to make the chair as the table and then for every other house use a normal table crafted from that workbench
$203 quadrillion mansion in LA
https://i.imgur.com/K15TrKK.jpg I’m pretty much unconditionally convinced this is the best housing style period. 3x10 inside, work bench as table, no doors or platforms, chair and torch, solid backing (may work with less, havent tried). The purpose is to have them unable to move at all, and not roam around eachother freely. I access the NPC’s from below (a platform with three spaces lets you stand right under them). I even do this for pylon houses out of absolute convenience of access and organization.
did you compare this to a workbench instead of a table? so it will be -1 horizontal but not sure if only +1 vertically
might be good for a nurse station in an arena
Cheaper? Wood has no value and is infinitely renewable, so no you cannot make it cheaper. More efficient, in terms of blocks or time? In terms of time, absolutely: just build a box with platform doors instead of carefully measuring anything. In terms of blocks... It's wood. It's infinitely renewable. If for some reason you don't want to use wood, use dirt instead; you'll end up with chests full of it anyway.
could you get rid of the corners
getting rid of the corners doesn't work, the wall detection extends diagonally
Guys…… tbh is may be hard to hear….. you can just giving them an actual room with actual walls and a door
use a workbench instead of a table
Use a crafting table instead of a table
Actually more expensive. CT 10 wood, T 8 wood
You sound like a billionaire ceo lol.