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bobw123

I wonder what the MSI/FN will represent in TNO since the actual fascists were in power just a few years prior


DunklerMAP

IMO 1922-1925 Fascism before corporatism and dictatorship


Bookworm_AF

Isn't corporatism and dictatorship like, *the* defining features of Italian fascism? Besides incompetence, of course.


DunklerMAP

They have to work in new reality as I see


Bookworm_AF

Yeah but if they're still fascists, *they're still fascists*. They'll go along with democracy only as long as they need to, and abandon it the moment they think they can. If you remove the authoritarian centralization of power from fascism, then it isn't fascism anymore, just an adjacent far right populist ideology. Anti-democracy is too much of a fundamental component of fascism to be removed from it.


Far_Angrier_Admin

they'll just turn it into a dominant party state, where sure, the opposition *exists*, but there sure is a large chance that any major anti government figure will come down with a nasty case of Mailbox Pipebomb.


PearlyDoesStuff

*topical joke about a certain country goes here*


Practical-Rabbit-773

Will it have the Fiamma Tricolore as a simbol?


StrangelyArousedSeal

Yeah, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the flame is supposed to reference the eternal flame at Mussolini's mausoleum, so I'm unsure if it'd be adopted in TNOTL since Mussolini would be a much more popular figure, hence his followers wouldn't necessarily feel the need to honour him in that way


Practical-Rabbit-773

An eternal flame for Mussolini is something that would happen even tnotl


-et37-

This is Mussolini we’re talking about after all. Man’s ego was out of this world.


derpster39274

why does that even exist IOTL anyway/ Resistance hangs him up upside down and then for some reason they decide to make a bloody shrine to the bastard? never made sense.


Practical-Rabbit-773

Everybody deserves a tomb, no matter how evil.


ArenSkywalker

They could've cremated the body though


Practical-Rabbit-773

What's the difference? His sons wanted to bury him so they did that.


ArenSkywalker

I suggested cremation since it doesn't give a memorial site to future fascists. I wasn't aware that his sons specifically asked him to be buried.


Frezerbar

As an Italian that's bullshit. That should not be allowed. We can't have tombs for murderous dictators because assholes are gonna venerate them. There is an annual march that takes place at Mussolini's tomb that is full of fascists and Nazi and other disgusting characters that get together and venerate him. That's disgusting. And that's what happens when you build a fucking Mausoleum to a dictator. That's why Hitler has no tomb. Fascism is still too popular in Italy because after the war this kind of bullshit was allowed. We didn't punish war criminals, we allowed them to form a fucking fascist party, we allowed them to build a Mausoleum. Those were mistake Also I don't give a shit about what his FASCIST son wanted. He shouldn't have been allowed back in the country anyway. All of Mussolini's family was complicit in his regime


Practical-Rabbit-773

The annual visit of Predappio by fascists is irrelevant to a large degree, they LARP and make a mockery of themselves. I've been there years ago for unrelated reasons and it was fucking embarrassing. His legacy will not be forgotten tho, at least not until a few centuries passes, but denying the very human right to burial for him would not have changed it. Also, by treating him and his stooges with the respect he denied to the Regime's enemies proves the point that the constitutional system is morally superior. Feel free to disagree tho, this is my opinion.


Frezerbar

Nah, Mussolini and Hitler did not deserve a tomb. A shallow unmarked pit at best


ArthurSavy

Fun fact : it's exactly the name of my country's main far right party until 2018


Johannes_P

And said party still uses a logo inspired from the MSI's.


ArthurSavy

As we say in France, tout à fait


Ep1cOfG1lgamesh

France?


ArthurSavy

Yes


Far_Angrier_Admin

Frafo i Niesprawiedliwość ?


Wielkopolskiziomal

Oni nie wiedzą...


ArthurSavy

Nope, think about Marine Le Pen


MeowthMewMew

South africa?


The_Nieno

France


ArthurSavy

🇫🇷


raceflagtheflag

So cursed that matto is a mod now


-_matto_-

sup


KingfishChris

Honestly I was thinking along the lines of the MNI or Italian National Movement.


The_Nieno

Holy shit Le P*n 🤮🤢 reference


ArthurSavy

Jean-Marie est ministre de l'Intérieur dans le gouvernement de Sidos au fait


The_Nieno

Je prépare déjà les les missiles vers la direction de la France


KingfishChris

Don't forget the British National Front under Chesterton and Tyndall


AndalusianUnion

Fascists and authoritarians in even vaguely democratic countries trying not to name their parties “National Front” for the 50000th time


GammelZ

Just name them liberal democratic party of [country]


Mundane-Ad5393

Yeah just like LDPR


Unable_Macaroon9847

Maybe the ANM submod should do a little trolling and put the recently elected PM into power of this faction/party. Or maybe she can just be a government member for one of the PNF outcomes idk.


ArthurSavy

ANM's canon is that Italy remained fascist under Balbo, so it wouldn't be the case