By - e-some
Keep it Civil, keep it Respectful!
OMFG... Mark Felix doing 2min 20sec on the wrecking ball hold! 🤣
Shaw tied second with Hooper on the log behind Bobby. That's huge for Brian. Just gotta place second on the wrecking ball, and he's in the stone off
Is janashia injured? Only 3/5 on deadlift seems very out of place, Loz and Liz mentioned something in his shoulder or back
In Martins' recent video, Romark talked to Janashia about the deadlift. Apparently, he griped well off center on one of the deadlifts and hurt his back.
will finals be shown live anywhere??
Ttheyll be on tv in July in the USA Christmas everywhere else
well that sucks
Scary to think how good Hooper is even without a beard. Imagine the godly strength he would add with a beard. At least 50% I'd say.
Damn Brian is having a rough time. Think he's got an injury??
The injury of time
Brian Shaw lost two family members last week. It could honestly be affecting himself even if he won't admit it. Honestly who knows how much prep he did last week because of that.
Damn that would do it. Hopefully he’s ok!
Brian is having a tough time in his qualifier, looks next to impossible for him to win his group now, hooper needs to 0 the rest of the events for that to happen.
He's definitely got his work cut out for him now. Its so hard to get much incite from just the results alone into how he's looking. Seems to be just that bit off? Best chance now is to get into second place to have the advantage in the stone off, but that might be tough with a log event left against Bobby. I think maybe we see him in 3rd against Bobby in the stone off and that might be a tough fight...
You know I thought that too however when you compare time his car walk wasn't bad. Any other group its good for a 3 or close to 2nd. His group is just stupid! If you figure the average totals for times and reps his group is the top group. If the group's compete against other groups then their group would DOMINATE the show. It's ridiculous how stacked it is.
Yeah, I did notice his time overall was mid pack, just way down for his group. I thought for sure he would beat Janashia and Felix and figured he and Bobby would be close. Felix smashed it.
It's heating up...he split 2nd in log lift
He stepped up. I don't see the grip event changing the top three up. I'm thinking stone off with Bobby.
Might have to wait for the wrecking ball hold to see Tom drop points at this rate.
Who is this Coraboeuf guy? No disrespect meant it's just he's the only athlete here I have no reference point for but he seems like he can hang as this level.
Fairly wild that guys like him and Hooper and come in out of nowhere and perform like this
Frenchie who's lived on the Gold Coast in australia for the past few years, and when given the nod decides he representing France the cunt! Aussies aren't happy! 😂😂😂
I'm more wondering who that 90 year old Peruvian guy is!
You still have Mitch Hooper! :D
Edit: /s, obviously.
The super hooper is from Canada, but he resides/resided in Australia.
I thought it was funny
Isn't he Canadian?
He lived in Australia for a while. I know he‘s not Australian, that was the joke.
Anyone curious about his Australian accent after only a few years there?
Maybe he adapts. My accent is very fluid too, I tend to automatically "imitate" the accent of those around me
Curious indeed. Can't help but wonder if the candian thing is just an act because he likes the "moose" moniker so much. Wsm conspiracies coming to light this year
Yes. He went to school in Australia for a few years
Didn't he win Oz strongest Man and took the spot off Eddie Williams?
Evan just said on Instagram that he is ok and back in the competition. Great news!
Wow, didnt expect that. Maybe group 5 will be a bit interesting after all.
I see a new moment for Liz's "23 greatest moments at wsm" in ten years
Mitch Hooper just posted a day 1 recap video and also touches on how he feels about the events tomorrow:
If I remember correctly Felix has the all-time record for most appearances at WSM with 17 times
To be fair, most strongman competitions invite the athletes of their choice. You don't qualify for shows like WSM, WUS or Rogue invitational. You have many Instagram followers, you're pretty much set.. This sport still needs to evolve on so many levels.
There's a partial qualifying system for WSM (place top 3 at a Giants Live Show).
WUS has in the past years also been very open on which shows they consider as a qualifier for their shows.
The Rogue Invitational is indeed an invitational (it's quite literally in the name).
The Arnolds probably has the best qualification system set up. With the exception of 2022 of course, being that almost no qualifiers were held in 2020 and 2021 due to the pandemic.
Also, isn't WSM saying that the Magnus Ver Magnusson Classic will be a WSM qualifier?
The Shaw Classic was in talks of being a qualifier.
The MVM classic, haven‘t heard anything about that.
This is the first year in a while where there's no Swede invited. We used to have a guaranteed spot.
He is grandfathered in on the basis of having done well the year before. And having the strongest grip in the universe. And being a threat on DL and loading. He's not ever gonna challenge for the title anymore but he's no slouch and earned his spot to compete.
At this point, his physical proximity to GL shows in the UK is a blip compared to having spent 2 decades hanging out.
Also wsm is a British comp so they like to have at least 1 brit per group for the channel 5 deal
Felix has the most WSM appearances. This is his 17th. It’s Brian Shaw’s 15th, and I believe Terry Hollands competed 15 times as well
Yep, Mark is making his 17th WSM appearance and that is a record. [All-time leaderboard](https://www.strongmanarchives.com/records.php?viewRec=11)
5 times out of 9 for Mariusz, that's not too shabby of an average.
Mitchell Hooper's thoughts about day 1. Seems very down to Earth, but you can see he is a bit nervous with all the craziness going on. I don't think this will play with his mind though, specially when he has the car walk coming up as the next event.
oops just reposted that link before seeing yours, my bad mate! agreed though, i think he will stay in the right mindset tomorrow and crush it
EVAN CLEARED TO RETURN!!!
He should win the car walk and wrecking ball. If he can come second or third on the log he should get to the stone off. And since log comes after the car walk, he should go last and know exactly what he needs to get.
Did he finish the deadlift event today?
He was at hospital
Then how can he rejoin the competition? He missed an event.
he did not
Does he legit have a chance?
As everyone else said I think so. I think Eythor will be the guy he ll face in the stone off. His car walk (yoke) is insane and he’s good on log and I think his grip is good?
His grip is phenomenal. What he really needs to do though is beat Luke and come first on the car walk, this would give him a 2pt boost over the next best placing person. Then coming second on the log and first on the wrecking ball would most definitely see him in the stone off. Those latter 2 shouldn't be too much trouble if he's back to 100%. It all depends on if he's truly back to 100% and then performance on the car walk.
True, guess we ll see tomorrow!
I think so. He'll beat anyone at the Stones so just needs 3rd. As long as hes feeling ok hell crush the yoke, and should do well enough on log
Honestly I think so. He would have to do the stone off though. I can see him definitely beating Corabeouf in stones. Eythor and Kelvin maybe be harder if he's not in 2nd.
WSM posted on all their socials he was clear to return. I think he can claw his way to the stone off
Why the heck does Oleksii look so weirdly short and wide here?
Looks like he's standing closer to the camera than the others, that and/or standing on something lower. So it's playing tricks on perception.
He is short and wide, but I believe his hands are on his hips here so his shoulders are flared. Standing next to Gav makes him look exceptionally short as well.
Strongman stats are a bit like wrestling stats. Rob Kearney claims 5’10”. I assure you he is not.
I stood next to Rob, he's precisely as tall as I am at 178 cm. (maybe give or take half a centimeter)
I have also stood next to Rob. In similar shoes we were about the same height. I am not 5’10”. Maybe you use wrestling stats too? No shame in being short man…
Maybe my doctor uses a faulty measurement setup haha. Or yours does.
Which is 5'10 pretty much on the dot
A good rule of thumb is to take their shoe height and then round it upwards to the nearest inch. A few competitors (Gav, Big Z, Kelvin, Janashia, probably a few more I've missed) are actually the height they're listed at, though.
What about the performance of the rookie Mitch "the Moose" Hooper, in his first International Competition? 31 seconds in the deadlift ladder like holy fuck. Third, I believe, overall in the loading event. This guy is proving that his invite was justified.
Can't be more hyped
I think it is a long shot but it would be awesome for all three Canadians to make it to the final.
Hooper just slotting into JFs role of mogging everyone at deadlift
Haven’t seen any convo on here about Mark Felix. What is he like as a competitor and person?
> wtf is a deadlift ladder anyways
something something BS crossfit event something something
*(I like it though)*
One of the impressive things about Mark outside of his grip is that he didn't lose a deadlift event for quite a number of years. In itself impressive but that was the era of Mariusz and a young powerful Big Z not to mention others
So you’re saying there’s a chance! Sweet!
Literally no one seems to dislike Mark. He's earned the respect of everyone, it seems.
He’s fucking awesome.
He seems like he’s an amazing guy. Thanks for confirming.
I am rooting for him, even though I know he doesn’t have a shot. He’s a hero for continuing to train and compete all these years.
This Simon or Romark?
😂😂😂😂 i saw that on Martins recent upload
It's funny watching Terry on the backstage video. He seems like he has better things to be doing.
As much as i like Terry he is a bit of a charisma vacuum, he doesn't have that natural ability to talk or charm, they should have got someone like Big Loz to do it
Terry always came across as a miserable person, i dunno why you'd put him in front of a camera. He strikes me as the type who's really funny if you get to know him, and completely authentic - but that's not what you need for camera
Terry seems to be dealing with nerves with this being his first live type deal.
He's good on his channel, and if he can get to that level of comfort he will be good.
Lmao that is the perfect description 😂
Not a fan of him as a presenter personally.
He's about average as WSM presenters go.
I remember in like the early to late 2000s there was a female presenter who was pretty good and a really tall guy who was also good (both British broadcast) and they replaced him with this insufferable little bald twat that did everything through terrible skits and treating the athletes like man eating trolls
Ya Martin Bayfield (former English rugby lock) used to present. Remember him interviewing Brian Shaw and having to look down...
I think he is doing a good job for first time, but maybe they should have some who actually is used to the cameras and Terry for commentary or interviews, something like that.
What they need is someone to produce the colour commentary, while using Terry as the insights guy. They should have had a pairing.
As Uncle Loz pointed out this is his first time doing it alone and having someone from producrion talking in your ear can be distracting. Auntie Liz also pointed out that Terry is kind of a shy guy.
If you go watch some of Uncle Loz's first videos he wasn't the best either. It take time to become a polished professional...so I would say give the guy a chance.
Yeah, his first time solo and he's doing great. He was pretty good as commentary for the Shaw Classic, but he had someone to bounce off of. They had Nick Best with him for a bit and they worked really well together. Think they should stick with that for the rest of then life comp.
Was at the event all day today…here’s some takeaways I got:
-hooper was a monster, far and away the fastest sprinting back on the loading out of anyone there
-shaw should still make finals, but was somewhat surprised seeing him fail to get 380kg on deadlifts
-Tom looks to be cruising almost thru it to finals
-novikov is so dang consistently amazing it blows my mind
-manuel is doin as expected and seems to have a bad leg injury
-Kearney not doing as well as I expected especially after coming back strongly at Arnold’s
-Gavin is looking the best I’ve seen him, still wouldn’t pick him to make finals but it’s a nice step up from what we’ve seen the last few comps from him
-martins is doing as expected and dominating
-luke looked even bigger than last year and was extremely fired up
—wondering if there was an update on what happened to Evan? Looked like he passed out, then I didn’t see what happened next
Evan had an allergic reaction (apparently even prior to the loading) and went into anaphylaxis. He's recovered well and going to continue the comp. The cause of the reaction is so far unknown
Now it's allergies? The main narrative I've seen was heatstroke
He's posted a video himself, I guess Insta and Matt Rhodes reposted it on YT. I'm going off of that
What was the experience like? How was the Fan Zone? What vendors? Crowded? Did you have VIP? If so, was it worth it?
I was just general admission it was pretty awesome though great view the whole time. Tbh seemed like we had just as good of a view as vips they just had seats and a cover over them. If you waited by the side you could get a pic with most athletes, romark had martins on a mission to get back though so none with him until after the contest :,( There was a reign booth giving out a free reign, another booth didn’t look too closely at but they had some shirts and a bag. There was also one smoothie truck too. Then the sbd one which had some of their equipment as well as some of the neat worlds strongest man shirts! If you plan on going I’d recommend bringing a ton of water, sunscreen, possibly a chair(didn’t see anyone bring one in so not sure if it would be allowed but would be really convenient if it is)
Did you happen to see if Luke attempted the 5th deadlift?
Gave it a solid tug but I think he realized it wasn’t worth grinding it when he was unlikely to get it
I never thought I’d say this, but I miss Robert Oberst. The sub isn’t quite the same without people trolling every time he fails an event.
Don't worry, he will be back next year to reclaim *his* log lift record. And when I say reclaim, I mean come in 5th place on the log, and zero every event before/after it.
Haven't had a tactical zero yet
Isn't that what Evan did?
No he got injured/sick
I believe it was heat stroke. At least that's what Loz thought it was.
Zeroing the squat: all part of the big plan to win it all in 2023
It's scary how fast martins deadlift time was even when he had to deal with so much shit (having to redo the first two weights, not being able to hook grip because of his hands, and not being able to roll the bar).
I definitely believe he could have been in the 20-25 second mark had he been able to fully replicate his training
Did you see video of it?
This is not good for the grip event though
What was wrong with his hands?
He said In his BTS video that for some reason his hands were too swollen to do hook grip. That's why he failed the first rep, the bar slipped out of his swollen hands
How many sports are there where the fans root for every athlete? Such as fun time, even if its just a sheet
The only downside to this, is that whoever wins I'm left simultaneously overjoyed and heartbroken
Well, I feel like some people might root against Pavlo. Since the incident with oleksii a while back
Different Pavlo mate
The one that had the incident with Novikov was [this guy, Pavlo Nakonechnyy](https://giants-live.com/app/uploads/2022/01/pavlo-nakonechnyy.jpg). Not very good friends with Novikov
The one that's competing at this WSM is [this guy, Pavlo Kordiyaka](https://strongmanarchives.com/Images/Athletes/1087.jpg). Good friends with Novikov
Liz and Loz made a video about Kordiyaka in preparation for this contest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygflnDY6xm8
That was a different Pavlo
wrong Pavlo, this one is good friends with Oleksii
There are two strongmen from Ukraine named Pavlo? Must be a common name over there. I thought it didn't look like him but Id only seen him compete once so I figured I was just remembering wrong
It's the equivalent of Paul in a historically Orthodox Christian country, it's extremely common.
Honestly that's one of the main reasons I love this sport
Not many. Strongman may have flaws, but most of us would be happy with who ever wins.
BTS from Martins
Is that Jerry Pritchett's son in the background during the deadlift warmup?
Bubba casually checking out the implements for the future.
I can’t believe he is trusting a restaurant for the food the day of one of his biggest competitions.
Tom was eating at cheesecake factory yesterday, someone else was eating at Applebees. the hotel provides food but it might not be the tastiest
Brian noted that the hotel is only providing food for a certain window of time. He said a bunch of guys were waiting for it to open while he was making food in his room.
Applebees?! Now that’s fearless!
interesting things he noted on the deadlift:
* His hands were pretty swollen from who knows what, and he couln't hook grip. He slipped when he first tried to pull then did over-under.
* Didn't make eye contact with the judge so he had to do the second one over again.
* Switched to straps after the first 3.
* Couln't roll the bar. He had been training with rolling the bar into himself so foot placement was a little awkward.
Good grief! Still won the event and still put up a respectable time in comparison to others.
The fact he kept his head and pushed through that says a lot. He'll need that if his hands are still shit come the wrecking ball hold. Maybe that can get straightened out.
Hopefully just a minor allergy thing and his hands will be good to go for tomorrow.
There's a good chance his hands are swollen from whatever drugs he's using for the competition.
I don't think do. I imagine they have that all perfectly planned out. Evan Singleton also had a horrible allergic reaction that took him out. They could have both eaten at the same place and there was cross contamination.
yeah good on him for staying calm and pushing forward when so many things went wrong
Hall talking to Hooper on his YouTube channel, 'you've pulled 475 in training, that's like the second highest deadlift in history right'
The funniest part of World's each year is hearing Eddie mispronounce almost every athlete's name
Smh why eddie why especially after the leaks yesterday
Idk how much the leaks can really effect Eddie. He’s the best static lifter in strongman history and he has exactly 1 WSM win. Sounds pretty fair to me. It’s not like there was consecutive years of static heavy stuff or anything truly suspect.
Idk that's arguable prime thor probably was better.
But with them giving him a boost then he shouldn't be out here acting all oh giants live legitimacy 100% etc
i don't know if anyone has done this before. But I, like many of you, am a spreadsheet enjoyer. so I have calculated what the total points would be for each athlete so far, if there were no heats. points awarded the same way (30 for 1st, 29 for 2nd and so on).
|Oleksii Novikov (Ukraine)|59|
|Mitchell Hooper (Canada)|57|
|Martins Licis (USA)|55|
|Tom Stoltman (UK)|51|
|Adam Bishop (UK)|46|
|Luke Stoltman (UK)|44|
|Gavin Bilton (UK)|43|
|Gabriel Peña (Mexico)|40|
|Brian Shaw (USA)|40|
|Bobby Thompson (USA)|38|
|Kevin Faires (USA)|38|
|Trey Mitchell (USA)|36|
|Shane Flowers (UK)|34|
|Aivars Smaukstelis (Latvia)|34|
|Maxime Boudreault (Canada)|33|
|Pavlo Kordiyaka (Ukraine)|30|
|Kelvin de Ruiter (Netherlands)|29|
|Mark Felix (UK)|27|
|Gabriel Rheaume (Canada)|26|
|Rob Kearney (USA)|24|
|Jean-Stephen Coraboeuf (Australia)|23|
|Konstantine Janashia (Georgia)|23|
|Andy Black (UK)|21|
|Mika Törrö (Finland)|19|
|Eythor Ingolfsson Melsted (Iceland)|18|
|Kim Ujarak (Greenland)|15|
|Manuel Angulo (Chile)|9|
|Nedžmin Ambešković (B and H)|6|
|Grzegorz Szymanski (Poland)|6|
|Evan Singleton (USA)|5|
And here's each groups average score so far, as a way to see which is the mathematical toughest
|5|22.3 (w/ Evan) or 25.8 (w/out Evan)|
interesting, but not very telling. E.g. Tom could cruise on the DL ladder since nobody got 5 in his group and he was in the last group our for the DL ladder
Awesome spreadsheet! So good to see where people would place if there wasn’t the current heats system. Corabouef is representing France this comp fyi (cries in no Australian representation)
Very nice. I hope I see your comment of this tomorrow too!
I love it when people put effort into the discussion in order to make it more interesting and productive. Thanks a lot.
1. Hooper blowing out even the most wild of hype. Probably most exciting person to watch going forward for me.
2. Novikov is amazing. Seriously, the guy has been training as a soldier in a war torn counrtry. Nevermind the mental side of things, the fact that he is able to maintain an elite athlete's conditioning against people who have the cushiest gyms money can buy is amazing.
3. Fuck ya, Gav. Honestly I was starting to think this guy wasn't mentally tough enough to hang with the rest of these guys. Hope he keeps proving me wrong
Really appreciate that man! I agree with the takeaways too, so happy for Gav that all his work on conditioning and dropping weight seems to have made a monster. And I didn't think novikov could get any more ridiculous but he finds a way hahaha
First table is a bit off, might wanna fix that. Good stuff anyways, thx buddy
Thanks man, looked fine in the preview, I think I've fixed it now lol, can you let me know if it's fixed please?
Yeah now it is great
My opinions/takes after day 1
Tom doing good but not as good as expected. Due to his stone expertise and everything he's fine for the final though. Hope Kevin gets through
Shaw having issues but I expected them. Think he makes the final but I think that's where it gets hard especially with dl for reps.
Great job to mitchell mans a monster. Hope he wins the group.
Pena gav luke all did amazingly especially gav.
Poor Konstantin is slipping up I don't think he's making it.
Shane and pavlo seemed to mess up a bit I think maxime and martins make it.
I hope evan gets better he was one of my picks mans done amazingly before Hope he's okay with the heat and nothing serious.
Novikov did insanely well.
The group 5 battle now seems to be "who's the second best out of these newer or less "dominant" guys"
I hope trey can get into the finals and have his battle with bish at least
I think Tom has done exactly what he needed to to get max points. Why push yourself harder if you don't need to, keep some energy for the final
Can Coco make it to the final ?
I don't know at all how he fairs at the over events, and most importantly at stones.
He should do well at the log press - he hit a 190kg log for a solid single a few weeks ago.
Pretty good BTS, equipment testing etc
EDIT: I really like the cars, those tires are welded hard, no dropping and "accidentally" dragging a bit
Terry knows his shit. A lot of good comments and advices.
Yup, you can see why him and Bish get along too, they both made the same comments about the height of the car vs losing a bit of time in the pick up ahha.
It was a bit weird to see Pa in the video talking about feeling great etc etc.
I think the car will be a bit awkward for the really big guys, Kelvin looked like his arms had nowhere to go and Brian seemed to be trying to find a good place for his arms but yeah
Was secretly rooting for the young dude from Greenland as an underdog.
Kim seems like a very nice friendly guy
So three people at the show have now got back to me and said they didn’t see Brian even attempt the 5th.
EDIT: people now saying there’s a video of him attempting it so my people missed it I guess and I’m wrong lol
Yeah literally watched a video of the man attempting the 5th.
Ok so they’re wrong lol weird they all missed it but whatever
He definitely gave it a shot. Those 3 people must have missed it for some reason.
Very good sign if true considering the time it took him to do 4 implements.
Kind of "on brand" for Brian. Sometimes injury, sometimes strategy.
Thats a good sign. Now that plays into strategy rather than Injury. Experience coming into play now?
Could have felt a past injury flaring up on the 4th and walked away, that's the only thing that makes sense to me, coming so low in an event when Mitch is an unknown makes no sense
Eddie Hall has a YouTube video out with scenes and interviews from today.
Interesting that Martins got to pull the second bar twice. I wonder how fast would be his time without this mistake...
World's Strongest Fan posted a quote from Evan on YouTube that he could possibly be cleared by medical to compete tomorrow. That'd be interesting. I don't think it'll happen, though.
But he didn’t even do the deadlift
So he'd take a 0