How is anyone meant to be invested in their matches when it’s a foregone conclusion that Reigns is going to come out on top, regardless of who he’s facing. Longest title run? Yeah, for sure, but also the most boring and overrated of all time


We have made a review of Survivor Series if anyone would like to check it out. ​ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgi7VvNC75w&t=7s


They really sold this man Theory's titantron space to Beyblade and then gave him the US title


Probably gave Theory a cut on the ad revenue, because the Beyblade logo is literally in the titantron haha


My fantasy booking: the bloodline turn on Sami sometime before the Rumble, against all odds he wins the rumble and challenges Roman, Cody then wins elimination chamber and also challenges Roman therefore un-unifying the titles. Sami wins on night 1 and then Cody wins on night 2. Romans rule comes to an end and the baby faces prevail


Can Roman get Sami a grill and some Jordans?


Let’s wait for Cody to come back before anointing Sami the one to dethrone Roman. Because Cody waging a one man war against the Bloodline to win something his father was never able to could make for a very compelling story in itself.


I just don't think Sami would make a compelling enough champion for it to worth having him be the guy to take down Roman.


Fuck Cody. The bloodline story line should be the important play out here without Cody It's become better than it ever would have been if Cody was in the story


I agree, Cody’s bloodline story is very important


No it isn't


Yes. It is. Doesn’t matter what you think. It’s obvious.


No it doesn't matter. It's life You get injured, you leave the storyline. The storyline progresses In to something it would never be with Cody being there. To add him back now would just make the storyline nonsensical. Especially as what we are being given is miles more entertaining than the fued we thought we would get I'm not saying don't go full circle and end up back with Cody in the mix. Just get this story done first because it's special.


I though Jey was taking Sami to Suplex City for a second there. Whew, thankful it ended in a man hug. My tender heart wouldn’t have been able to take it…


On Second thoughts, I would have had Helluva Kick into Jey Splash and have Sami pin KO.


Not a single thing that has happened tonight has even hinted at the possibility of Sami and KO teaming up against the USO’s. I don’t understand where most of y’all get these ideas


They talked backstage one time before Clash at the Castle and fans ran while with expectations that were never promised.


Good, so when they do turn on Sami, you will really be surprised now


Lol it literally hinted the opposite


Let Roman get to 1000 days as champ, then you can blow it up, Hunter. (But you don't have to.)


A lot of y’all are missing the point. Sami isn’t going to be the one that dethrones Roman. Just stop, y’all are setting yourself up for disappointment. KO and Sami will end up teaming up to be the ones to dethrone the Uso’s. That’s the right call; that’s where the story is focused. There is no other tag team that is worthy of it either. The Uso’s gotta lose to somebody y’all, there’s no way Roman loses while the Uso’s still hold the tag belts.


The real sign of what is coming is the Usos losing.


night one of mania surely has to end with ko + sami vs the uso's


How badly will the crowd boo Cody if he throws out Sami to win the Royal Rumble?


Vince would have done that, but I think HHH has enough IWC IQ to not do that


Great PPV. My only real complaint with the Wargame matches is how long wrestlers stay dead for no reason when it's time for other wrestlers to do their spots, then they suddenly get revived. Ridge and Butch all night are prime examples of this, as well as the whole Brawling Bruties team near the end of the match. They could have easily had one of the Bloodline members give each guy a whack with a chair or piece of table to explain it away.


I agree heavily with your last point, it feels like the bloodline needed to give them one last mugging and then transition.


Give me one more year of the bloodline, break it around SummerSlam


Sami needs to be the one to dethrone Roman, not Cody


Nah. Sami and KO are taking the belts off of the Uso’s, that’s what’s happening.


The bloodline is hot rn if I’m going to mania with having this running at least to sunmerslam I’m thinking you out the US title on Sami and the IC title on solo and give ‘em the money shit like evolution had


Sorry but not the IC title, mark my words they are slowly building GUNTHER to be the guy who breaks the Honky Tonk man’s record. The bloodline should have to go to war for that title if they have to put all the straps on this stable.


KO & Sami vs the Usos is gonna steal the show at WrestleMania. You heard it here first!


Roman's look near the end from Kevin laying down back to Sami...this ain't over in his head.


Agreed. That was a "He did this to his best friend? I don't trust him..." look.


Damn I’ve been convinced that the endgame is either Sami winning the titles off Roman, or Sami and KO winning the tag titles. But with the Bloodline winning despite the “friendly fire,” and with Jey finally embracing Sami, I’m not sure anymore how we get from Point A to Point B now


If Sami doesn't end up going over Roman we riot


There is no way this ends with Owens and Zayn, it has grown so far beyond that. Sami is main event material right now.


If you don’t think Sami and KO being the ones to dethrone the Uso’s isn’t main event level, then you need to stop watching.


I need to stop watching because I don't think the tag titles are main event titles? Im not saying they aren't important, but this is very much a personal journey for Sami. He's one of the most over people in the company and the story is centered completely within the bloodline. KO being added wouldn't make sense, this is about so much more than that and would water down the essence of the story.


You’re wrong, but I’m sure I won’t be able to convince you of that so, carry on.


maybe I just have a different opinion to you? I feel like you haven't really explained yours so I don't know how I'm going to understand that you're right


No you're wrong, Sami needs to dethrone Roman


The pay off has to be Sami dethroning Roman now


na the pay off is the uso's losing to ko and sami. though if they keep going i can believe sami vs romans more


Nah they pay off is Roman dropping the titles to Sami


That is not happening, I don't see it.


It should happen


I agree, but I don't think they will.


Sami over Roman is the only way now! Please o please o please o please


This storyline reminds me so much of Undisputed Era. Not from a storyline parallels perspective but just the enjoyment I'm getting watching them.


Rikishi: I did it for the Rock Sami: I did it for Roman


What a fuckin night! Both War Games matches delivered on completely different levels. The women’s War Games went balls to the walls from damn near start to finish and the men’s War Games was a masterpiece in storytelling. What a long strange trip we’re on ladies and gentlemen, let’s revel in it! I fucking love pro wrestling!


If you’d have told me a year ago that I’d not only be actively looking forward to WWE storylines but actively enjoying them more than AEW I’d have called you insane.


I’m fuckin pumped dude. In this moment in time it truly feels like *everybody* is firing on all cylinders right now. Let’s just enjoy it! One love ✌🏽 (or too sweet since we’re all wrestling fans here lol 🤘🏽)




I wanted Team Brutes to win but holy crap top notch storytelling!


Chances of Sami being the one to dethrone Roman? I still think it could be Cody but if and when the bloodline turn on Sami he will be the most over baby face in wrestling


Or do two matches like when Angle held the IC and European championship. Paint Roman as so cocky he challenges both against the wishes of Heyman.


Sami makes the most sense from a storyline perspective. Will finally be his crowning moment after years of being overlooked and the underdog who couldn't quite break through. Now he's doing career best work and it makes storyline sense.


Hopefully Sami is the one to dethrone Roman. This has been a very long and good storyline so far and I can see Sami getting Daniel Bryan styles of support for a world title win. Cody isn't nearly as over right now and won't be once The Bloodline turns on Sami.


I still think the way they're doing it they'll probably have KO and Sami dethrone the Usos. I think what you could do is potentially have Roman lose the belt at mania, and have the bloodline slowly fall apart without his leadership.


I think Cody is the favourite, but I think the only reason why it won’t be Sami is because it would be difficult for WWE to have their top champion not wanting to do Saudi shows.


Sami is prohibited by the Saudi government from doing those shows


Kevin deserved that anyway. The guy is a fucken horrible manipulative friend. The Bloodline have been better to Sami than KO ever was.


lol yes I wanted certified uce to tell Roman that KO literally betrays every one who


Lol right. When I see those two together all I think about is when Sami won the NXT title and Owens came out celebrated with him then beat the shit out of him. I'm pretty sure their feud on the main roster started pretty similar too.


This has to be the greatest long form WWE storyline in history right?


If not it's extremely close.


This storyline is not for me. It is quite stale. Separate the titles so I can just stick to Raw.


You should try to come around and appreciate it because this era will truly go down as one of the best moments to be a wrestling fan in its history.


What don't you like about it?


It is completely one sided; the dude hasn’t been pinned in over a year and I am supposed to believe the next person will be the one to make a difference? I honestly don’t even care anymore who finally beats him. I came back since Vince left and thought things would be different but it’s not.


Not OP, but perhaps the fact that Roman hasn't had a clean title defense/win for nearly his entire title run.


He has definitely won clean multiple times this run


Shouldn't we be sad about Sami betraying KO? I am lol. But amazing storytelling. So glad it wasn't just ROFLROMANWIN


He didn't really betray Owens. In kayfabe, he's been with the Bloodline through and through at this point in the story.


I know, just kinda historically. Even though they've always fought, they are besties lol


I am, but I'm hoping to turns to them rejoining to take down Bloodline.


It makes me laugh that the entire story was about Sami and was established yesterday and today


goddamn it. I just want to see the Bloodline lose And this is nonsense. Okay? Sami and KO are friends? I've seen them spend time as enemies than as friends. This doesn't impress me. I mean this bit isn't even any long term part of this storyline. Up till a few weeks ago this was not about how loyal to the Bloodline Sami was, the obvious issue was how loyal to Sami the Bloodline was


Bloodline Cinematic Universe Phase 4 has Jey having Sami's back against Bloodline, shits gonna be wild.


Man, they showed two ways to book an effective War Games match in one card. We had both the car-crash match and the slow-burn. Bless Papa H.


Oh yeah you're right. There was almost no cage/double ring booking in the men's match. Thats honestly pretty cool. The women had all the high-flying cool fun idea crazy shit going down. The men's match just had a slow, beat down, numbers game.


This is why professional wrestling is the best form of storytelling in the world


100%. Everyone knows it's fake, but acts like it's real. It's so utterly unique.


The moment Sami held the refs arm on the 3 count was awesome. I love that Roman is being shown as more fragile as time goes on, from Drew nearly beating him before intervention by Solo to Kevin having his number here to be stopped by Sami. Really helps the crowd believe that a lot of the top guys could beat Roman given the chance.


Great premium live event. Sami is the goat. This storyline is so good.




Is Roman winning seriously what you took from that??


Story telling > flips and flops I've honestly forgotten 5 star matches with flips and spots without a story but damn, even a match that's 3 stars with great story is always in the back of your mind.


The only logical end to this major storyline has to be Sami winning the world title(s) from Roman. Hopefully WWE don't fuck this up.


That lingering logo stressed me out a bit.


This storytelling is genius


WWE has been putting on an absolute master class of both emotional, as well as conflicted face/heel work, storytelling with the Bloodline. It's going to go down in history as one of the more complex storylines that still makes sense, as well as one of the best in recent memory.


And to think it all started with Jey Uso as one of the key players.... Fucking Nuts!




Great show. Also the first two war games matches I've ever seen. Real fun stipulation. Only question I have is why the team with the last person entering the match is seen having the disadvantage? I would think from a kayfabe sense that having the most fresh wrestler would be the advantage, kind of like being #30 in the Rumble.


Because they might be coming in fresh, but their buddies have been outnumbered the whole time and have presumably been getting their asses kicked, which also means the other team is less beat up.


Because most of the time the other team will have the extra man allowing them to dish out more damage. Also having one freshman isn't gonna have much effect because of how much of a cluster fuck these matches are imo.


Most of the time one team has one more than the other team until it’s 5 v 5


I'm no WWE fan, but Owens, Zayn and Reigns and Bloodline are telling a fantastic story, and what a great storyline. Zayn simply has to come out of this as super babyface as we all expected since his NXT/ROH days


I think we can all agree the Wargames experiment didn’t fully work, but we definitely got some great moments of storytelling and some cool enough big spots. I love the trial and error, it’s very exciting.


… yeah no none of us agree with that first statement lol




No thank you.


I was prepared to cry, but I’m glad it’s tears of joy seeing Sami being accepted by Jey


I wonder how they're going to eventually turn Sami and we get KO/Sami vs The Usos at Mania? I did not see this ending coming.


It seemed too obvious for the turn to happen tonight, so I didn't expect it to happen. Also, I think they want the Usos vs Zayn/Owens match to happen at WrestleMania, so it's too soon for the turn to happen from a time perspective.


that catch by sami of kevin and then tossing him on the floor for Jey


So no betrayals in either wargames matches I'm surprised.. Also forgot about the LA Knight bit on Smackdown cause I thought we were supposed to have Bray v Knight ..


At least that War Games wasn't a botch fest like the first one


2 years ago who would have predicted the best part of the Roman title run would be Sami Zayn!?


Yeah I wasn't the biggest fan of Roman's reign for a good amount of it but right now it is pretty awesome with the Bloodline and especially Sammy.


Oooh I thought Sami might let the refs hand go after a second there.




Bravo HHH


I really don’t know what’s gonna happen now this is great


Hell yeah, it’s going to hurt what happens next


This is wrestling!!!


Man, this bloodline/Sami storyline that’s been going on for months is the greatest thing in a while. Every smackdown and PLE they deliver. It’s insane how Sami being involved with the bloodline was only supposed to last a couple of weeks.


really good show; glad I watched it


Give Sami the Emmy.


Isn't that what Vince wanted for years..? Mainstream recognition for storytelling... and now he's gone, the story has developed into this.


So...did they kill Kevin Owens somehow at the end there or what lol All the good guys seriously took dirt naps


I mean to be fair, Sami would have to stick it to ko a few more times before they're even close to even


So damn true. KO got betrayed there, but man, that doesn't even come close to the times KO has betrayed Sammy


That seemed very scripted


Shut up


What amazing story telling


Waffle House will not survive this


The Bloodline is gonna order everything on the menu twice.


I’m sure they called a few days ahead 🤣


The last 10 minutes of that match was some of the best gimmick match storytelling, up there with the great HIAC matches.


I think it needed some insane spots, it felt pretty tame for a 10 man match/war games


It was tame because of the storytelling. I'm guessing that was the point.


Yeah but you can have both. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the storytelling Roman/Bloodline has been doing the last 2 years but I feel like Roman's gotten a little lazy in the ring. His matches don't really have crazy spots anymore.


It's just not his style anymore. I'm loving this subtle gaslighting Tribal Chief.


That's a pity, though. I miss face Roman's wrestling, he had some insane matches.


He's lifting up everyone around him instead of being shoved down everyone's throat. This is a legendary run, I'm so glad I started paying more attention to WWE


Sami standing in the middle. Sami's the best thing in wrestling right now.


The bloodline storyline may be the best since I was much younger. That kept me captivated the whole time. Been awhile since I felt that way. Really good.


Got real scared when that end show logo just stayed there


I think throwing up the logo before doing the Bray thing has people antsy about it now.


Nah, NXT. Couldn't trust that logo at all. Ciampa turned on Gargano in Chicago when that end show logo flashes


You're not alone. When Roman step back, I figured he was about to take someone out.


Got that Ciampa PTSD


The women’s match was better in terms of action, but the men’s told a great story.


Sami and Kevin have definitely had a lot of betrayals but this feels so much different


time for sami to get some real tribal tattoos


The final step


Could this eventually lead to Sami trying to take over the Bloodline?


Great match and even better storytelling


Probably the best end to a WWE match ever. When Sami was lifted up in his hug, I cheered like it was a Game 7 buzzer beater!


Storyline > Weapons matches. Wasn't that much weapons involved but the story and drama was superb.


IMO Wrestling is much better when it’s telling a story. Watching people fight is fun but it’s so much more engaging when there are stakes involved and you are invested in the characters.


Whenever the Bloodline turns on Sami it needs to be bloodier than the Red Wedding


Jesus christ lmao


Roman with Jey and Sami at his sides with the family finally solid was a great visual.


Only gripe with the end - why were the rest of the Brutes dead for that long?


Head canon - Solo gave them all a Samoan spike for good measure.


A perfect storytelling match wow


Perhaps being part of The Rock’s family is indeed a good enough motive for betrayal


roman’s the face of the company but sami’s the main character. look at an entire war games build and match being built around his character arc!


So the bloodline are baby faces confirmed


The bloodline are made up of faces and heels. The faction itself is effectively a tweener


When it actually happens, who is gonna turn on who


That’s what I’m thinking because I’ve seen others theories here.


Off to buy every piece of bloodline merch I can before the betrayal.


I liked that


I saw that look Jey and Roman gave Sami just now. YOU CANT FOOL ME ROMAN.


roman and solo didn’t do the 👆🏿


Solo didnt do it at the beginning either. Honestly it looks better this way after a match where sami’s loyalty was in question. Them doing it all before looked like the spires of a castle. Now, it looks like a wall, an impenetrable wall, the beginning of a fortress


I don't think they ever do really


Solo never does.


Roman's gonna betray the Tribal Chief


Sami has to be the chosen one right? Where else is this going? If it's Cody or The Rock what was all this for?


Theres no way Hunter pulls a Vince. this is the greatest thing this companys done in decades. it eclipses Jericho/KO. they have to see this through. I always believed that since it began with Jey it should end with jey. After tonight though its gotta be Sami. Hes a Daniel Bryan levels of underdog.


Sami isn't beating Roman. It's probably going to be Sami and KO vs the Usos when the bloodline eventually turns on Sami


Yeah but he just turned on Owens


So what? This isn't the first time Ko or Sami turned on each other. Ko gonna forgive him eventually and fight the Usos at wrestlemania


Can still be Cody or Rock if u have Sami and KO dethrone the Usos


Nobody has gotten under Romans skin the way KO and Daniel Bryan did.


One of the best wrestling stories ever. Top 5 at least.


Too fired up lol


Just seeing the carnage of all the bodies laid out is so cool


Roman just laying on Drew for support 🤣


Trash ass ending. Only good thing I got out of this is all of the acknowledgement he received from the bloodline. Sami Zayn WWE Champion 2023 🔥


Literally dozens of comments talking about how good it was and then this one nerd calls it trash lol


Nah.. Shit was trash.. Boring for majority of the time. Those two teams were just thrown in there at a months notice. No true build up. It was mainly just to structure Sami Zayn and build him up more. I'm fine with the story telling, but performance wise it wasn't good. The NXT brand pulled it off WAY better. 💯


Excellent finishing sequence, rest of the brutes team was down for a hell of a long time at the end but end of the day Sami in the Bloodline is the most over act in the company so it made sense to have that be the focus. And it was of course executed perfectly as Sami and KO always do.


I wish the women’s war games match was more fluid like the men’s. I didn’t totally hate it but it seemed inconsistent and choppy compared to this


Impeccable storytelling.


Jesus my ass clenched that whole time, great fantastic story telling


Okay it’s off air, I can breathe again


I don’t even watch WWE anymore, except the occasional PPV, but the storytelling in that match was fucking Shakespearean.


That… Was… Incredible… ☝🏾